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"Better the twat we have , than Stweeting or Rayner maybe? " We are certainly 'twixt owd Nick and the proverbial deep blue sea, Miliband maybe? Although there are really no ideal candidates. However, we are jumping the gun at this stage, although I think Starmer is due to address his backbenchers today. | |||
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"Better the twat we have , than Stweeting or Rayner maybe? " the very thought .. or even worse , Miliband or Lammy FFS | |||
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"Third time lucky with c+p?" Starmer was hoping 3rd time lucky with Mandleson... | |||
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"Go on Starmer, do what you said you would do the day you took office as PM....put Country before Party and call a General Election!" Like Boris and truss did? Oh no wait.. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. " Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in" The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. " You like dictatorship. Well that explains a lot. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. " The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers | |||
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"Starmer has certainly been severely damaged by this and I doubt he can bounce back. Whether he clings onto his job remains to be seen. The knives are out in his own party and it will take a miracle for them to be re-sheathed. Biggest problem is who would replace him. Streeting and Rayner are both marred. Miliband perhaps as an interim PM but his past failures would hardly make him a popular choice. Reckon Lammy has ambitions but most people see him as a joke. No one is mentioning Yvette Cooper but she might be their best bet." Yvette Cooper - always seems to be under the radar - seems to be fairly level headed (apart from husband choice) - I don't really know what she stands for but seems like a decent choice for leader | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers " We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime " Who are the others? | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Who are the others?" Google how many Germans help France in WW2 and you will then work out the problem that will come soon. Trojen Horse is in the Uk and none of these clowns want to do what’s right for us as a nation. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. " If Reform are the answer then it must have been an extremely stupid question. Little more than a personal Faragite cult. He's an extremely slippery, untrustworthy character yet somehow, through careful PR and saying things people want to hear, he is popular. His chief policy/appeal is 'stop the boats, deport the illegals'. His economic and fiscal policies just don't add up. Also councils now run by Reform seem to be reneging on all their election promises and making a total cock up of things. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Who are the others? Google how many Germans help France in WW2 and you will then work out the problem that will come soon. Trojen Horse is in the Uk and none of these clowns want to do what’s right for us as a nation. " I'm left even more puzzled | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Who are the others? Google how many Germans help France in WW2 and you will then work out the problem that will come soon. Trojen Horse is in the Uk and none of these clowns want to do what’s right for us as a nation. I'm left even more puzzled " Then sadly you are part of the problem with what’s happening to the UK. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime " Farage is mentioned 41 times in the epstien papers I believe. Why is he not being asked to stand down? | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Who are the others? Google how many Germans help France in WW2 and you will then work out the problem that will come soon. Trojen Horse is in the Uk and none of these clowns want to do what’s right for us as a nation. I'm left even more puzzled Then sadly you are part of the problem with what’s happening to the UK. " Thats you that is.. | |||
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" Farage is mentioned 41 times in the Epstein papers I believe. Why is he not being asked to stand down? " Interesting point and one being overlooked by his adoring supporters. No doubt the same folk who are baying for Mandelson, Starmer and Mr AM-W's [former known as prince] blood. | |||
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" Farage is mentioned 41 times in the Epstein papers I believe. Why is he not being asked to stand down? Interesting point and one being overlooked by his adoring supporters. No doubt the same folk who are baying for Mandelson, Starmer and Mr AM-W's [former known as prince] blood." Thank you | |||
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" Farage is mentioned 41 times in the Epstein papers I believe. Why is he not being asked to stand down? Interesting point and one being overlooked by his adoring supporters. No doubt the same folk who are baying for Mandelson, Starmer and Mr AM-W's [former known as prince] blood." He also still hasn't been investigated over his lies over the purchase of his 2nd home, unlike rayner. Although police are finally investigating reforms use of so called letters from concerned neighbours backing his party. Paid for by the party but bearing no party emblems. Which is about time as they did it here before the last general election and are still doing it now. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Who are the others? Google how many Germans help France in WW2 and you will then work out the problem that will come soon. Trojen Horse is in the Uk and none of these clowns want to do what’s right for us as a nation. I'm left even more puzzled Then sadly you are part of the problem with what’s happening to the UK. Thats you that is.." History Today reference appears. 🤣 | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. " Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO" Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.. | |||
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"It is now undeniable that Keir Starmer had sufficient knowledge of Peter Mandelson’s associations with Jeffrey Epstein long before appointing him as UK Ambassador to the United States. By wilfully ignoring these ties, together with Mandelson’s already chequered parliamentary record, Starmer has demonstrated a staggering lapse of judgment and a total failure of due diligence. To appoint such a figure to Britain's most vital diplomatic post was an act of professional negligence that has compromised our national standing. This appointment is not an isolated error; it is the final straw in a pattern of administrative neglect and incompetence. The recent resignation of his Chief of Staff, Morgan McSweeney, over this decision only confirms what is already clear: the Prime Minister’s judgment is fundamentally flawed. ?Starmer has lost the moral authority to lead. His positions as Labour Leader, Prime Minister, and MP are entirely untenable. For the integrity of the office and the country, he must step aside and tender his resignation immediately. Anything else will cause further, irreversible damage to this country. " Why is his position today untenable, as opposed to September 11th when he sacked Mandelson. This was the point when new information came to light contradicting Mandelsons relationship with Epstein. Between September 11th and last weeks release of files next to nothing had been said. So unless you can explain what has changed then I am not in agreement with your comment. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in" Yes. Tories without the veneer of governance and open acceptance of concierge role in return for bribes , sorry - I meant "consultancy roles" and "donations" . | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. " I think trump asked Farage what he could bring to the table and was unimpressed. Peter Thiel send him home with a new plan. If Boris can party with the Russian secret service to maintain London's ranking as primary dark money laundromat in the world, Farage will rubber stamp ownership of UK infrastructure by Oracle and Palantir. Welcome to the new Puerto Rico in Europe folks. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in Yes. Tories without the veneer of governance and open acceptance of concierge role in return for bribes , sorry - I meant "consultancy roles" and "donations" . " Rather similar to Labour then | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.." It’s funny how I haven’t been shot trying to stop ice doing their rightful job removing illegals. The trouble think you are right but it turns out your views are actually completely wrong | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. " If you really believe in that, you would be in for a very rude awakening if it were to happen. Farage is a joke, just as bad as bozo the clown was - or even worse. Only interested in what’s in it for him. As for the “Reform Council” Running Kent “Kent firefighters work round the clock to keep the public safe. The least they deserve is political leadership that functions. Since Reform took over the council in May, we have seen a deeply worrying lack of care and diligence. The FBU has written to Linden Kemkaran, or ‘captain chaos’ as she is becoming known, to ask for a meeting, but nothing has been forthcoming.” | |||
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"We need reform" But not Reform | |||
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"Those who seek power are exactly the ones who shouldn't have it." Bloody hell Mountain. I think that must be the truest and most profound thing you have ever said. | |||
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"Those who seek power are exactly the ones who shouldn't have it." Real wealth buys you power. The ones we see in politics are increasingly puppets. They do as they are told. | |||
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"In 1991 Blair knew about Mandelson and Epstein , he gave him a code name when giving him a position in Labour , Blair is still involved in pulling Starmer strings " Alongside Blair's evil henchman, Alastair Campbell. 'Blair-Campbell-Mandelson' Labours Unholly Triad | |||
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"Labour have ensured that I am worse off, with the prospect of even higher bills and a stagnant economy lagging well behind our G7 peers. So why the fuck should I vote for them? It's a simple dynamic. If Labour want to attract votes they need to hit every economic and house building target they promised. They do not deserve second chances for failure. " They won the election by default, not because people actually believed the nonsense they spouted (particularly Starmers pledge to clean up politics after years of "Tory sleaze ", him and his ilk had the noses in the trough within hours of getting in) They could have pledged nothing more than to take a dump on every door mat in the land and still won the election. | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.. It’s funny how I haven’t been shot trying to stop ice doing their rightful job removing illegals. The trouble think you are right but it turns out your views are actually completely wrong " They are opinions dear boy. | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.. It’s funny how I haven’t been shot trying to stop ice doing their rightful job removing illegals. The trouble think you are right but it turns out your views are actually completely wrong " It would take quite a shot to hit you in Berkshire tbf. | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show I'm beginning to think Starmer might survive even if he has hit rock bottom. No sane Labour MP is going to risk a general election. Plus there is no obvious successor. All those being touted are flawed in some way or would be deeply unpopular. | |||
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"It is now undeniable that Keir Starmer had sufficient knowledge of Peter Mandelson’s associations with Jeffrey Epstein long before appointing him as UK Ambassador to the United States. By wilfully ignoring these ties, together with Mandelson’s already chequered parliamentary record, Starmer has demonstrated a staggering lapse of judgment and a total failure of due diligence. To appoint such a figure to Britain's most vital diplomatic post was an act of professional negligence that has compromised our national standing. This appointment is not an isolated error; it is the final straw in a pattern of administrative neglect and incompetence. The recent resignation of his Chief of Staff, Morgan McSweeney, over this decision only confirms what is already clear: the Prime Minister’s judgment is fundamentally flawed. Starmer has lost the moral authority to lead. His positions as Labour Leader, Prime Minister, and MP are entirely untenable. For the integrity of the office and the country, he must step aside and tender his resignation immediately. Anything else will cause further, irreversible damage to this country. Why is his position today untenable, as opposed to September 11th when he sacked Mandelson. This was the point when new information came to light contradicting Mandelsons relationship with Epstein. Between September 11th and last weeks release of files next to nothing had been said. So unless you can explain what has changed then I am not in agreement with your comment." Well....The situation has shifted from a political scandal to a national security crisis! In September, the issue was Mandelson's personal honesty regarding a controversial friendship. However, the February 2026 documents allege a criminal breach – that Mandelson shared market-sensitive state secrets with Epstein, sparking a Metropolitan Police investigation into misconduct in public office. Furthermore, Starmer's position is now under fire because he admitted in Parliament that he knew of Mandelson's post-conviction ties before making the appointment, leading to the resignation of his own Chief of Staff, Morgan McSweeney. This has shifted the focus from Mandelson's lies to the Prime Minister's own vetting and judgment. | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show Remember we had Truss | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show And Ms Rayner could possibly provide an encore, the record to beat is 50 days! | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show Would we need to represent her with a carrot? | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show A cucumber maybe? A carrot could be construed as discriminatory ryophobia! 😉 | |||
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"Well he's not going to call a general election obviously, so just leave him as PM and get the popcorn out. Just enjoy the show Or just a carrot top? | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.. It’s funny how I haven’t been shot trying to stop ice doing their rightful job removing illegals. The trouble think you are right but it turns out your views are actually completely wrong " What? ICE are at large in Maidenhead….be afraid. | |||
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"Farage is also of course proud of his friendship with Trump: able to stick with him despite, say, his forwarding an image depicting the Obamas as apes, two murders by ICE in Minnesota, the January 6 insurrection, and multiple documented and depicted links with Epstein. And the latter is only what's not been redacted. It's possible though that Farage finds all the above and more forgivable for the sake of friendship. Not murders they learnt the meaning of FAFO Oh dear. They roam amongst us still.. It’s funny how I haven’t been shot trying to stop ice doing their rightful job removing illegals. The trouble think you are right but it turns out your views are actually completely wrong What? ICE are at large in Maidenhead….be afraid." We need them there as illegals are being looked after there. Get them gone. | |||
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"Starmer knowing about the links to Epstein is almost irrelevant - why was he appointing a guy known as 'the prince of darkness' who had been forced to resign TWICE previously for corruption at all? " Not defending it, but it has been alleged that it was a case of set a thief to catch a thief. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 10/02/26 10:32:21] History will show this lawyer then PM to have missed the boat, train, plane and even the bicycle when it comes to dealing decisively with fiddlers of the young and their enablers. Saville apparently not a file on his desk Rotherham no need for an national inquiry Mandelson plum appointment to the US. Some would say a pattern is emerging What next Ukrainians buggered up and down Downing St" If you care to read the book The Prosecuter, you will.see that history already shows what he did to get people like Saville and the grooming gangs brought to justice. The reason he said we didn't need a new grooming gangs inquiry was because the tories had just had one but then didn't implement its findings, which he intended to do, so why have a new one before you actually act on the old one? The mandleson appointment was thought to be a stroke of genius by many, including farage. | |||
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"Starmer promised to Smash the Gangs. We need a leader whose priority is to protect its people. Stop the Boats Now !" And who would that be? 🤔 | |||
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"Starmer promised to Smash the Gangs. We need a leader whose priority is to protect its people. Stop the Boats Now ! And who would that be? 🤔 " This for me is the major issue and the reason so many people are politically homeless and open to the populist parties. Who is the next leader going to be? I look at our current crop of politicians from the mainstream parties and none of them stand out as the future leaders of our country. As Fraser would say “we’re doomed” | |||
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"Not a labour supporter, or a Starmer fan at all, but the way the top people in the party have got behind him is a good sign of a basically unified party. It actually feels better than the last governments chaos of continental chop and change. It seems, at the moment, that the people pushing for change the most, are the mainstream media outlets. They seem to be continually baying for blood. They don’t mind who’s, but they are continually after bringing some big name down. " 100% correct. | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that" Absolute bollocks | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that Absolute bollocks" Brexit was the worst act of self harm ever inflicted on GB and by its own voters. The margin was very close and the government should have said it’s too close to decide on such a small margin and given the people another chance. | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that" Only one simple there. | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that Absolute bollocks Brexit was the worst act of self harm ever inflicted on GB and by its own voters. The margin was very close and the government should have said it’s too close to decide on such a small margin and given the people another chance. " Totally agree. But to say the boats are an act of revenge by the government is, as I said, absolute bollocks. | |||
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"The point was made on C4 Last Leg that this controversy about Starmer and being ill informed about appointing Mandy and calls for him to resign etc. How is it affecting our day to day lives realistically? Yet across the ocean a President can be outwardly racist and is absolutely untouchable no call for him to resign at all, has had no impact on his political life at all. Yes Mandy was involved with Epstein but he was the least interested in sexual encounters than anyone else apart from Stephen Hawking I guess. It’s those white millionaires and billionaires like Trump Gates Clinton Musk Andrew that need to be held to account in courts of law. " Exactly. | |||
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"The point was made on C4 Last Leg that this controversy about Starmer and being ill informed about appointing Mandy and calls for him to resign etc. How is it affecting our day to day lives realistically? Yet across the ocean a President can be outwardly racist and is absolutely untouchable no call for him to resign at all, has had no impact on his political life at all. Yes Mandy was involved with Epstein but he was the least interested in sexual encounters than anyone else apart from Stephen Hawking I guess. It’s those white millionaires and billionaires like Trump Gates Clinton Musk Andrew that need to be held to account in courts of law. Exactly. " What the other countries do or don’t do is a matter for them , we should hold our political class to standards we consider acceptable . His , I didn’t know mantra has had its day , either he was complicit in allowing a known fiddler of youngsters enabler to walk the corridors where his own children live or he’s just incompetent and dangerous | |||
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"Problem is, Keir was praised by those present for his speech to MPs yesterday evening - because he was more passionate. But if he channels that some more in his public speeches, he might get called performative, histrionic; if he doesn't, he's a robotic lawyer. No win. Still, he has won another three months. Listening to the chorus of voices across all media yesterday pronouncing death, I'm glad he's survived - it all sounded like a bullying lynch-mob. Another leadership race would be an idiotic self-indulgent self-destructive distraction. I'm not over-optimistic, but I hope Keir digs deep to see off challengers. " He's already regarded as a robot, and that's why when he declaims he looks completely inauthentic. But a robot that has a clue about what it is trying to do would be a much more effective look. I fact he could claim the intellectual high ground. | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that Absolute bollocks Brexit was the worst act of self harm ever inflicted on GB and by its own voters. The margin was very close and the government should have said it’s too close to decide on such a small margin and given the people another chance. " So if you dont like the result keep going until you get the vote you want. I wish I could keep doung that every week with the national lottery. Spin after spin until I win. If it was a narrow vote for remain you would change your tune | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that Absolute bollocks Brexit was the worst act of self harm ever inflicted on GB and by its own voters. The margin was very close and the government should have said it’s too close to decide on such a small margin and given the people another chance. So if you dont like the result keep going until you get the vote you want. I wish I could keep doung that every week with the national lottery. Spin after spin until I win. If it was a narrow vote for remain you would change your tune" You need to take some English lessons and learn how to understand what is written. | |||
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"Miliband said this morning that 'Labour MPs looked over the precipice and didn't like what they saw.' a Cabinet Minister was (anonymously) quoted, "Wes f****** bottled it." God knows what Keir implied or outright threatened - I'd love to know - but it worked. Thus MPs might be forced to concede that Keir in his way showed leadership. " THat will only be true if Starmer can unite the party. Streeting is still bubbling under, and Starmer will have to pacify those (numerous) Muslim constituencies. It's not simple. | |||
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"Miliband said this morning that 'Labour MPs looked over the precipice and didn't like what they saw.' a Cabinet Minister was (anonymously) quoted, "Wes f****** bottled it." God knows what Keir implied or outright threatened - I'd love to know - but it worked. Thus MPs might be forced to concede that Keir in his way showed leadership. THat will only be true if Starmer can unite the party. Streeting is still bubbling under, and Starmer will have to pacify those (numerous) Muslim constituencies. It's not simple." Starmer is destroying the Labour Party and they will never unite under his leadership. I would usually support labour but never with this clown at their head. | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick " Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. | |||
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"We gave these sods a bloody nose over Brexit and politicians are getting their revenge by encouraging the boat people. Simples as that Absolute bollocks Brexit was the worst act of self harm ever inflicted on GB and by its own voters. The margin was very close and the government should have said it’s too close to decide on such a small margin and given the people another chance. So if you dont like the result keep going until you get the vote you want. I wish I could keep doung that every week with the national lottery. Spin after spin until I win. If it was a narrow vote for remain you would change your tune" Yet farage said if he lost and it was close, he would demand another referendum. Go figure. | |||
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" Starmer is destroying the Labour Party and they will never unite under his leadership. I would usually support labour but never with this clown at their head. " Can Labour unite under anyone? Without a clear and unique message agreed by all? It's at least two parties: pure Socialists fighting it out with global capitalists - and those groups are further split among themselves. In parallel we have pro- and anti- Israel factions, with the ethnic implications of this. There is a total lack of new policy thinking. Just listening to Burnham agreeing with me on Times Radio... | |||
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"It was Cameron's lot who set the rules for the referendum. Not Farage. It's not the voters fault that there wasn't a clear margin defined. Nor did anyone know that Cameron lacked the balls to implement the result. Plenty to moan about , not all of it at Farages door." It was Farage and Bojo who travelled the country lying to the voters and promising all sorts of wonders if they voted to come out, and lots of very low IQ dim-wits believed those lies. | |||
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"It was Cameron's lot who set the rules for the referendum. Not Farage. It's not the voters fault that there wasn't a clear margin defined. Nor did anyone know that Cameron lacked the balls to implement the result. Plenty to moan about , not all of it at Farages door." Hes the only one still in politics and also said he'd leave the country if it failed. Yes he's still here and still lying. | |||
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"It was Cameron's lot who set the rules for the referendum. Not Farage. It's not the voters fault that there wasn't a clear margin defined. Nor did anyone know that Cameron lacked the balls to implement the result. Plenty to moan about , not all of it at Farages door." I think a 1,200,000 vote majority was pretty impressive tbh . | |||
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"It was Cameron's lot who set the rules for the referendum. Not Farage. It's not the voters fault that there wasn't a clear margin defined. Nor did anyone know that Cameron lacked the balls to implement the result. Plenty to moan about , not all of it at Farages door. It was Farage and Bojo who travelled the country lying to the voters and promising all sorts of wonders if they voted to come out, and lots of very low IQ dim-wits believed those lies." Outside of London and Leicester, the areas with large percentages of South East Asian heritage voters showed a preference for Brexit. And they were right weren't they? Numbers from non EU countries surged in subsequent years. That's not being dim witted. It's showing self interest. | |||
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"It was Cameron's lot who set the rules for the referendum. Not Farage. It's not the voters fault that there wasn't a clear margin defined. Nor did anyone know that Cameron lacked the balls to implement the result. Plenty to moan about , not all of it at Farages door. It was Farage and Bojo who travelled the country lying to the voters and promising all sorts of wonders if they voted to come out, and lots of very low IQ dim-wits believed those lies. Outside of London and Leicester, the areas with large percentages of South East Asian heritage voters showed a preference for Brexit. And they were right weren't they? Numbers from non EU countries surged in subsequent years. That's not being dim witted. It's showing self interest. " So you believe that those who voted for leave were acting in self interest? Well good luck with persuading people to believe that lol | |||
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"… and lots of very low IQ dim-wits believed those lies..." Patronising the voters and telling them they’re idiots who believe lies has been such a proven and marvellous electoral success (cf the EU Referendum, GE2019, Trump vs Clinton, Trump vs Harris, etc etc etc) that I’m delighted you’re still going strong with it. Apparently it’s terribly “progressive”. | |||
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"Joke of a party just like the way the last lot became. Reform is the uk only hope of getting out of this shit. Isn't Reform just Right Wing Tories who actually got us into the shit we're in The problem with the tories were lots wanted to be in charge and would fight each other to be boss. That won’t happen with the way Reform is set up. That the only thing labour has got right as it’s run like a dictatorship everyone is scared to challenge the clown they have in now. The way Reform is set up being that Farage is the majority owner and that there is no mechanism by which he can even be challenged, let alone removed. Members* have no voting rights, no say in policy decisions or who represents them. Not very democratic, is it? *Customers We need someone to straighten out this fucked country. The problem will be when the others take over and all the left then shout help. By then it’s too late a very bad problem is coming to Uk in our short lifetime Farage is mentioned 41 times in the epstien papers I believe. Why is he not being asked to stand down? " Badenoch & Davey have been mentioned as well, so assume you expect them to stand down too. You've failed to grasp that being mentioned in the Epstein files is not an indicator of any wrongdoing. | |||
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"More pain for starmer’s thinking after another of his late advisors mathew doyle that he elevated to the lords has had the lords whip removed after his association with a convicted fiddler of the young. Why was he sent to the lords at a time he was championing this fiddler " Because he was a SPAD for Blair... Bonfire of the Blairites #4. | |||
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"Starmer is trying to frame himself as a victim ... it just won't wash No, he's just a useless cunt that everyone wants gone." Not everyone ... His cabinet are currently very reluctant to rock the leaky old boat. For now, at least. Self-preservation is a very powerful motivation. | |||
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"Someone suggested on radio 4.." bring In Gordan Brown as a temporary leader / P.M... My suggestion would be David Milliband( fast tracked in ?) Brown would be ideal under the difficult circumstances .... He's no pushover" On that guys watch Mandelson past over cabinet decisions that saw the country and people lose money , This is what the over inflated financial wizard brown said at the time. At a press conference in Downing Street, the prime minister said he was appointing Mandelson, who in the past has twice resigned from cabinet posts in controversial circumstances, because he needed "the best team" to help Britain through the global economic crisis. | |||
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"Someone suggested on radio 4.." bring In Gordan Brown as a temporary leader / P.M... My suggestion would be David Milliband( fast tracked in ?) Brown would be ideal under the difficult circumstances .... He's no pushover On that guys watch Mandelson past over cabinet decisions that saw the country and people lose money , This is what the over inflated financial wizard brown said at the time. At a press conference in Downing Street, the prime minister said he was appointing Mandelson, who in the past has twice resigned from cabinet posts in controversial circumstances, because he needed "the best team" to help Britain through the global economic crisis. " He'd work as a 'Temporary leader' for them ... Obviously not suited to being PM long-term. And his presence would deter Blair and that psychopath Alastair Campbell from pulling any strings in the background while Labour attempted to reform itself into something vaguely resembling a fully-functional government. | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ?" A woman is one of those things that looks at you with such disgust that you come on here looking for a working man to fuck your cuck hole I feel another ban coming on | |||
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"I think things will start moving more for Rupert Lowe very soon. " With the millions he's spent on twitter bots it's about time he did something | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ? A woman is one of those things that looks at you with such disgust that you come on here looking for a working man to fuck your cuck hole I feel another ban coming on" Therapy is available. Jusy a long wait because of those who jump the line fleeing war torn France | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ? A woman is one of those things that looks at you with such disgust that you come on here looking for a working man to fuck your cuck hole I feel another ban coming on Therapy is available. Jusy a long wait because of those who jump the line fleeing war torn France" I think you need to read up on how the Nazi's blamed everything on one section of society. | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ?" Do you have a brain? | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ? Do you have a brain? " Please define a woman and a working man/family. If you wont or cant then one of those oxygen thieves. I can give you clues if it helps. | |||
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"The goon starmer cannot define what a working person is and cannot define what a woman is. Another woke prick Nor can anyone else because there is always someone that gets upset with the answer no matter what is said. They are pathetic questions. What is your definition of a woman? What is your definition of a working man? I wouldn't answer as like I said, tbey are pathetic questions just asked to cause problems. So you cannot give a defintion of a working man or what a woman is? Are you Starmer in disguise ? Do you have a brain? Please define a woman and a working man/family. If you wont or cant then one of those oxygen thieves. I can give you clues if it helps. " Hopping in here What is *your* definition? | |||
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"This will really shock you. A man has a penis and a woman does not. Now free gear kier struggled with that definition. He could nit describe a working man. Two complete pricks. Kier and this other idiot poster" Your wife has a penis | |||
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"This will really shock you. A man has a penis and a woman does not. Now free gear kier struggled with that definition. He could nit describe a working man. Two complete pricks. Kier and this other idiot poster" Diogenes' chicken would like a word with you | |||
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"This will shock the woke. A man has a penis. A lady does not. Shock Horror Woke idiots " What does 'woke' mean? | |||
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"This will shock the woke. A man has a penis. A lady does not. Shock Horror Woke idiots " So if you have a penis removed/added, you have changed gender? | |||
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"This will shock the woke. A man has a penis. A lady does not. Shock Horror Woke idiots So if you have a penis removed/added, you have changed gender?" No | |||
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