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"There seems to be so much knife crime these days. Hardly a day goes by without some child being killed by another. Who is responsible: the parents or society, or both? " In London, where much of this type of crime occurs, many of the children are from one parent families. There was a report on local news only yesterday featuring two mothers who'd lost their sons, both early teens, as a result of stabbings. This was in the Woolwich area, and although they died in separate incidents, months apart, the boys were friends with each other. Both of the above had history with the police and had been drug dealing, however the Mother's blamed Social Services, Police, anyone but themselves for not protecting them. No mention of a father figure for either of them. | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... " Yawn | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... Yawn " He’s not wrong though. Rambo came out and we all went and bought Rambo knives, no issues. The difference was you couldn’t go a day without seeing a local Bobby on the beat. They knew our names and we knew theirs, if I misbehaved I’d get a clip round the ear! If I fucked about in school I would either get a board runner launched at me or a wooden ruler across the knuckles. | |||
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"The woke have inherited the earth..." If everything you dislike is ‘woke,’ the term isn’t doing much work anymore. | |||
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"Social media and smart phones and Internet,in other words technology has caused the problems of today back in the day when I was young no phones no Internet = no trouble no problems kids played out together " May I borrow your rose tinted lenses for my glasses please? | |||
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"Social media and smart phones and Internet,in other words technology has caused the problems of today back in the day when I was young no phones no Internet = no trouble no problems kids played out together May I borrow your rose tinted lenses for my glasses please?" I think you need to woke up and look through clear glasses | |||
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"The woke have inherited the earth... If everything you dislike is ‘woke,’ the term isn’t doing much work anymore." Bringing 'woke' into just about every conversation like this does the person no favours at all, it just makes them look like a neanderthal idiot. A lot of damage was done by the previous government. Not just the cuts in police numbers, but the directions from Theresa May, as Home Secretary, that led to the large drop in Stop & Search. It was lobbying from the liberal left and various other groups that led to this, and they're now reaping what they sowed. Now we're seeing campaigns by black mothers who have lost their children because of knife crime, actually campaigning for Stop & Search to be increased. You really couldn't make it up. | |||
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"The woke have inherited the earth..." Thank god it hasn't been inherited by people like you though. | |||
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"Social media and smart phones and Internet,in other words technology has caused the problems of today back in the day when I was young no phones no Internet = no trouble no problems kids played out together May I borrow your rose tinted lenses for my glasses please? I think you need to woke up and look through clear glasses " Oh please stop using "woke" as a reflex to everyone and everything you disagree with and doesn't see the past as crimeless. | |||
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"Social media and smart phones and Internet,in other words technology has caused the problems of today back in the day when I was young no phones no Internet = no trouble no problems kids played out together May I borrow your rose tinted lenses for my glasses please? I think you need to woke up and look through clear glasses Oh please stop using "woke" as a reflex to everyone and everything you disagree with and doesn't see the past as crimeless." 👍👍👍👍👍 | |||
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"Who is responsible: the kids themselves for being such psychotic little shits! Certainly not TK Maxx who don’t seem to sell kitchen knives these days much to my annoyance. Used to be able to get some good ones in there. " HomeSense sell knives in Lincoln. Which.. I believe.. is related to Tk maxx.. somehow? | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... " Good for stabbing inflatables too  | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... " Some sense at last! Yeah we all carried knives when we were kids but nobody ever thought to use them to kill somebody. | |||
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"Probably a lot to do with austerity, the closing down of sure start centres and youth clubs was very short sighted. " I think you’re right. Too many young lads have a warped view of what masculinity means, driven by gaming platforms and movies. They need role models that maybe they’re not getting at home. Politicians will spend billions on vanity projects like HS2 and yet penny pinch on Sure Start and youth clubs. Some will say it’s up to the parents but with the breakdown of the extended family there aren’t always and dads, grandads and uncles about. Some single parents do an amazing job and bring up well adjusted children but it’s not easy without support. | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... " what he said ^ | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. " And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... Yawn He’s not wrong though. Rambo came out and we all went and bought Rambo knives, no issues. The difference was you couldn’t go a day without seeing a local Bobby on the beat. They knew our names and we knew theirs, if I misbehaved I’d get a clip round the ear! If I fucked about in school I would either get a board runner launched at me or a wooden ruler across the knuckles." ...the good old days eh..? You'll be telling us next the same applies to wives/girlfriends who get a bit gobby...? | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. " ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals?" 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! " ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? | |||
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"This is the product of taking all power away from parents,schools,police and every other authority in a child’s life in the 90’s , now we’re seeing the children of the 90’s children who new no one could touch them, we reap what we sow like it or not" Thats what I said only more elequontly put. | |||
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"This is the product of taking all power away from parents,schools,police and every other authority in a child’s life in the 90’s , now we’re seeing the children of the 90’s children who new no one could touch them, we reap what we sow like it or not Thats what I said only more elequontly put. " ...I "new" you would like that.... | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,?" Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. " ...thanks for giving the correct meaning of the word..unfortunately to some on here,it's a triggering word...usually meaning violence.. | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? " I'd normally call someone out as racist and ill-informed for such a post for there are statistics that do bear this claim out, and I'll dig it out shortly. Most of the knife murders and other stabbings, certainly in London, are black-on-black crimes and I alluded to this on my earlier, less simplistic post. | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals?" I'm sure I'm not the only one who managed to install discipline and good values into their children without resorting to violence. Discipline is about caring, not anger, and shouldn't be physical. | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? I'm sure I'm not the only one who managed to install discipline and good values into their children without resorting to violence. Discipline is about caring, not anger, and shouldn't be physical." ...as I've already said..the word "discipline" seems to have a different meaning for the less well informed on here... | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. ...thanks for giving the correct meaning of the word..unfortunately to some on here,it's a triggering word...usually meaning violence.." No problem, pleased to be able to clarify the issue. Corporal punishment, tantamount to physical violence, is barbaric and can lead to long-term psychological and reverberative effects. It has no place in today's society. Although many of us, particularly those of an older generation, were subjected to it in our own formative years, it was a heavy-handed, unnecessary, and often ineffective means of disciplining children. Non-violent discipline, on the other hand, lays the foundation for a successful and emotionally resilient life. | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. ...thanks for giving the correct meaning of the word..unfortunately to some on here,it's a triggering word...usually meaning violence.. No problem, pleased to be able to clarify the issue. Corporal punishment, tantamount to physical violence, is barbaric and can lead to long-term psychological and reverberative effects. It has no place in today's society. Although many of us, particularly those of an older generation, were subjected to it in our own formative years, it was a heavy-handed, unnecessary, and often ineffective means of disciplining children. Non-violent discipline, on the other hand, lays the foundation for a successful and emotionally resilient life." ...my sentiments exactly. I can never understand why people think that inflicting violence on children is somehow going to make them model citizens... | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. ...thanks for giving the correct meaning of the word..unfortunately to some on here,it's a triggering word...usually meaning violence.. No problem, pleased to be able to clarify the issue. Corporal punishment, tantamount to physical violence, is barbaric and can lead to long-term psychological and reverberative effects. It has no place in today's society. Although many of us, particularly those of an older generation, were subjected to it in our own formative years, it was a heavy-handed, unnecessary, and often ineffective means of disciplining children. Non-violent discipline, on the other hand, lays the foundation for a successful and emotionally resilient life....my sentiments exactly. I can never understand why people think that inflicting violence on children is somehow going to make them model citizens..." Indeed, James, violence breeds violence, creating a self-perpetuating cycle that normalises aggression and fuels further conflict. | |||
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"I don t think its increased just reported more, way back when I was a lad, knives were commonly carried and knife crime was way up in higher numbers, hence the knife amnesty many moons ago when government changed laws on owning a knife and pushed for newly illegal knives to be handed over with no come back. Hell, the school I went to, it was no surprise to anyone if a blade was carried on someone's person, and tbh, it was a real rough hole to grow up, so...." it has definitely increased. It is the government/police that will tell you otherwise | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? " open your eyes read the paper watch the news most estates in London have a gang which is black & fight with the nearest estates.Go look at America the bloods v crips black gangs go watch the film colours you must be blind. | |||
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"Personaly i think most of the comments are correct in the fact that authority is now the joke . Nobody knows it and no one respects it . Authority has been thrown out of the window and our society is the result. I was brought up by a father,dad,who spent 39 years in the RAF . Very firm and unforgiving but never violent or abusive . Just disiplined and fair who at the age of 55 retired from the Air Force in tears not because he was leaving but because what he was leaving was not the fine proud force that he and his many new found brothers had joined all those years ago as 15 yr olds . I still find him now at 87 close to tears and dismayed at what this Britain that we call great has become "  | |||
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"As a 1970s schoolboy growing up in the country me and my mates all carried knives a lot of us also had air rifles but we never used them to harm anyone. Homelife doesn't exist anymore both parents go to work to pay for luxuries like mobile phones, colour tvs and PlayStations etc. Kids are dumped in nurseries or looked after by siblings. Discipline is non existent. " Your post strikes a chord with me. My brother and I were out playing all day, occasionally we’d run home for a glass of squash or to have Savlon applied to a scuffed knee. Mum would give us a kiss, pat us on the back and tell us to go back out to play until dinner/tea time. Although I’m single and didn’t ought to pontificate about child rearing, I can’t help but think there’s too much fantasy world and not enough real world for children nowadays. | |||
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"As a 1970s schoolboy growing up in the country me and my mates all carried knives a lot of us also had air rifles but we never used them to harm anyone. Homelife doesn't exist anymore both parents go to work to pay for luxuries like mobile phones, colour tvs and PlayStations etc. Kids are dumped in nurseries or looked after by siblings. Discipline is non existent. Your post strikes a chord with me. My brother and I were out playing all day, occasionally we’d run home for a glass of squash or to have Savlon applied to a scuffed knee. Mum would give us a kiss, pat us on the back and tell us to go back out to play until dinner/tea time. Although I’m single and didn’t ought to pontificate about child rearing, I can’t help but think there’s too much fantasy world and not enough real world for children nowadays. " I too carried a pen knife in the 1960s/1970s, and was an expected contents of boys pockets as matches and cigarettes, and I too had an air pistol, and still have a part small round tin of pellets from back then, but the thought of using it on anyone! Also many of us had them at school (the penknives, not air pistol, of course). | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? I'd normally call someone out as racist and ill-informed for such a post for there are statistics that do bear this claim out, and I'll dig it out shortly. Most of the knife murders and other stabbings, certainly in London, are black-on-black crimes and I alluded to this on my earlier, less simplistic post." Putting some meat on the bones of my earlier post: 71% of teenagers killed in London in 2018 were Black boys (15 out of 21) In 2019 it was 76% (19 out of 25. One unnamed boy) In 2020 it was 65% (11 out of 17) In 2021 it was 63% (19 out of 20) In 2022 it was 71% (10 out of 14) In 2019, former Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick said that Black boys were nine times more likely to be murdered in London (The Times, Nov 2019). The Black population in London is 13%. If we estimate that the Black male population is half of that at 6.5%, then these statistics tells us that there’s an issue that needs to be addressed. https://www.1000blackboys.com/why-is-this-needed *************************** 10 February 2022 Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators. The London Assembly is concerned about these figures and has today called on the Mayor and the Government to set up a joint commission to specifically look at knife crime affecting the black community. https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community | |||
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"Everybody seems to blame somone else ,but I strongly believe a lot of it is down to parenting ,setting standards and and not being dictated to by their kids" You've hit the nail on the head:- parents are ultimately responsible for their kids actions and behaviour, yet many seem to be oblivious to having an unruly offspring and think they can do no wrong, part of the solution is a disciplined foundation at home as outlined in my previous post on this topic. | |||
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"There seems to be so much knife crime these days. Hardly a day goes by without some child being killed by another. Who is responsible: the parents or society, or both? " Very very few kids knifes in this country Lots more harmed in traffic . Like , by an order of magnitude. I grew up with a penknife as did almost every other kid I knew. No one would ever consider using one in a fight because the consequences were to vile to contemplate. People did occasionally fight with them (mid to older teens) , but these were lost souls whom we all knew would see prison before they were thirty. Often they would boast about using one and an older brother or uncle or perhaps their dad would "encourage" them not to be so stupid again. So what has changed? Smaller families ?, smaller networks?, lower opportunity (so that prison in return for badass standing - isn't such a bad option compared to sitting at home on the dole? ) Life perhaps has got cheaper? Or kids believe they are under threat of being knifed, (even though the risk of someone, under 16, being cut is pretty remote for most kids? ), hence they all carry with intent because they believe they need to, so chance of escalation is way higher. We all carried, but it was for fishing or to use as a tool. It would for 99.99%of my cohort , never have crossed their minds to end a fight using a knife. Punches and kicks were not infrequent but if you even broke a bone on someone, you knew you were going to have to do a hell of a lot of explaining. | |||
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"Everybody seems to blame somone else ,but I strongly believe a lot of it is down to parenting ,setting standards and and not being dictated to by their kids You've hit the nail on the head:- parents are ultimately responsible for their kids actions and behaviour, yet many seem to be oblivious to having an unruly offspring and think they can do no wrong, part of the solution is a disciplined foundation at home as outlined in my previous post on this topic." We fine parents for taking children out of school for holidays and failing to ensure they attend education, Why can’t parents with underaged knife wielding cowards be held responsible for their offspring’s actions , Perhaps jailing some of these inadequate parents might not stop the carnage on our streets by much but it would mean that these inadequates wouldn’t be getting knocked up and perpetuating the circle | |||
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"Everybody seems to blame somone else ,but I strongly believe a lot of it is down to parenting ,setting standards and and not being dictated to by their kids You've hit the nail on the head:- parents are ultimately responsible for their kids actions and behaviour, yet many seem to be oblivious to having an unruly offspring and think they can do no wrong, part of the solution is a disciplined foundation at home as outlined in my previous post on this topic. We fine parents for taking children out of school for holidays and failing to ensure they attend education, Why can’t parents with underaged knife wielding cowards be held responsible for their offspring’s actions , Perhaps jailing some of these inadequate parents might not stop the carnage on our streets by much but it would mean that these inadequates wouldn’t be getting knocked up and perpetuating the circle" Kid does the crime, mum n dad share the time! | |||
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"Ignoring discipline in the formulative years of childhood eventually propagates anarchy, and issues like knife crime are an integral symptoms of a broader societal problem. ....so beat your kids, if you don't want them to become criminals? 'James can':- Please indicate exactly where you think that my previous post advocates the beating of children? You clearly do not realise that there is a huge difference between the necessary concept of discipline and the taboo practice of physical violence! Perhaps it's time to revisit my original post and then distinguish between the two in your seriously illogical deduction! ....what's your idea of "discipline",,,? Discipline in the sense of positive guidance and boundary-setting, constructive correction, clear expectations, and sanctions if and when needed – all aimed at teaching and guiding children, in a positive and encouraging way, not intimidating them with violence and fear! Examples include time-outs, removal of privileges, or extra chores, done calmly and consistently. It's an approach far removed from physical violence and aggression, and about helping children understand boundaries and develop self-regulation, which are essential factors in successfully dealing with the often exacting demands of today's society. ...thanks for giving the correct meaning of the word..unfortunately to some on here,it's a triggering word...usually meaning violence.. No problem, pleased to be able to clarify the issue. Corporal punishment, tantamount to physical violence, is barbaric and can lead to long-term psychological and reverberative effects. It has no place in today's society. Although many of us, particularly those of an older generation, were subjected to it in our own formative years, it was a heavy-handed, unnecessary, and often ineffective means of disciplining children. Non-violent discipline, on the other hand, lays the foundation for a successful and emotionally resilient life." And thats where we are with knife crime.. its a woke failed social experiment | |||
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"The stupid politicians and courts carry a knife outside work ten years jail " It's not automatically illegal to carry a bladed instrument in a public place ... If you can demonstrate that you have 'Good Reason' "Good Reasons" for Carrying: Work: Knives used for work (e.g., a chef’s knives, a tradesman's utility knife). Religion: Carrying a Sikh Kirpan. Activity: Taking a knife to a gallery/museum, or for theatre/historical reenactment. Specific Hobbies: Anglers, campers, or hunters may have a "good reason," but the knife should be carried only when needed for that activity. 'Self-Defense': Carrying a knife for protection is never considered a "good reason". | |||
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"The stupid politicians and courts carry a knife outside work ten years jail It's not automatically illegal to carry a bladed instrument in a public place ... If you can demonstrate that you have 'Good Reason' "Good Reasons" for Carrying: Work: Knives used for work (e.g., a chef’s knives, a tradesman's utility knife). Religion: Carrying a Sikh Kirpan. Activity: Taking a knife to a gallery/museum, or for theatre/historical reenactment. Specific Hobbies: Anglers, campers, or hunters may have a "good reason," but the knife should be carried only when needed for that activity. 'Self-Defense': Carrying a knife for protection is never considered a "good reason"." There are some knives that you can legally carry and do not have to give valid reason for. These must not have a locking mechanism, they must be foldable and have a cutting edge not exceeding 3 inches | |||
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"And thats where we are with knife crime.. its a woke failed social experiment" The rise in violent weapon related crime accelerated through the 1970s and 80s. Unaccountable non-woke policing schooling & parenting did fuck all to prevent it then Tackling young people experiencing poverty, neglect, drugs/alcohol misuse, disadvantage & education attainment were and still are the solution. Boundaryless woke parenting isn't the problem, ignorance, austerity and deflection are the real villains | |||
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"No one has respect for the police/law anymore. Most get away with major crimes with a slap on the wrist or a minor sentance of some discription. " And here lies the problem. The state no longer protects its citizens. The schools do not protect its pupils, they are not allowed to discipline or cane the kids, the police can not protect you, unable to give a clip around the ear and the courts cannot sentence you, the prisons are run by the prisoners and the streets are run by gangs. Now if that lot wont protect you then no wonder people carry weapons. | |||
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"The woke have inherited the earth..." And we are subjected to seeing a picture of that penis because of "The woke". We are all on this site because of "The woke". You are free to spout your ridiculousness because of "The woke". Cherry picking must be a fun job in essex | |||
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"The woke have inherited the earth... And we are subjected to seeing a picture of that penis because of "The woke". We are all on this site because of "The woke". You are free to spout your ridiculousness because of "The woke". Cherry picking must be a fun job in essex" As opposed to a picture of your little rascal? | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? " Im from London my mates wife works for the police doing the office work.Have heard from her about it.Got friends in Wembley I know of 2 shootings & 3 stabbings in recent years all black on black crime.Go search rap drill videos see if I’m lying. | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? Im from London my mates wife works for the police doing the office work.Have heard from her about it.Got friends in Wembley I know of 2 shootings & 3 stabbings in recent years all black on black crime.Go search rap drill videos see if I’m lying. "My mates wife" - that's not evidence, not statistics. It's anecdotal at best and outright bullshit as a minimum. " 1 in 11 black men in America is shot dead by another black man look it up. In south wales most are white so you wouldn’t know this. What colour are the bloods & crops gangs you seem to know nothing.Do you believe the term black on black crime is made up. | |||
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"The stupid politicians and courts carry a knife outside work ten years jail It's not automatically illegal to carry a bladed instrument in a public place ... If you can demonstrate that you have 'Good Reason' "Good Reasons" for Carrying: Work: Knives used for work (e.g., a chef’s knives, a tradesman's utility knife). Religion: Carrying a Sikh Kirpan. Activity: Taking a knife to a gallery/museum, or for theatre/historical reenactment. Specific Hobbies: Anglers, campers, or hunters may have a "good reason," but the knife should be carried only when needed for that activity. 'Self-Defense': Carrying a knife for protection is never considered a "good reason"." The Scots can also carry a knife, the Sgian Dubh, when wearing traditional Scottish dress. It’s actually a stabbing knife. It’s even allowed when flying from UK airports. | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? Im from London my mates wife works for the police doing the office work.Have heard from her about it.Got friends in Wembley I know of 2 shootings & 3 stabbings in recent years all black on black crime.Go search rap drill videos see if I’m lying. "My mates wife" - that's not evidence, not statistics. It's anecdotal at best and outright bullshit as a minimum. " He actually underplayed what is happening. I live in London and read the news reports, there's plenty of these murders in the Wembley, Harlesden, Kilburn areas. | |||
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"Most of these kids getting stabbed are involved in crime & black from single parent families & a council house & I’m not racist for saying that. And your statistical back up for such comments comes from where? Im from London my mates wife works for the police doing the office work.Have heard from her about it.Got friends in Wembley I know of 2 shootings & 3 stabbings in recent years all black on black crime.Go search rap drill videos see if I’m lying. "My mates wife" - that's not evidence, not statistics. It's anecdotal at best and outright bullshit as a minimum. He actually underplayed what is happening. I live in London and read the news reports, there's plenty of these murders in the Wembley, Harlesden, Kilburn areas." I'm sure the crime rates in a city with 9m people can be quite intimidating. | |||
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"Mare Khan says London is as safe as a safe place. Nobody takes responsibility it seems" Most of London has below U.K. average rates of crime. | |||
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"You talk about cuts to funding you see the debt this country is in?" That has nothing to do with my points, the thread is about why knife crime is so prominent over the last 15 years, and I think it’s because of the severe cut in funding to youth services. | |||
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"Go watch the film colours see what gang life in la is like. " You’ll be shocked to realise that movies are not 100% accurate and not a good source of information. | |||
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"Go watch the film colours see what gang life in la is like. You’ll be shocked to realise that movies are not 100% accurate and not a good source of information." 👏👏👏👏👏👏 | |||
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"Many reasons, severe cuts in funding for youth services like youth centres. In 2010 there was £1.5bn allocated to youth services, compared to 2025 where it’s £500M so there’s not much for kids to do these days outside of school, so they get involved in ‘gang life’ and hanging around their local estates. More than 1,200 youth centres have closed down since 2010 due to the underfunding of them, again if the youth have nothing to do, they’ll go out on their local estates and get involved in gang life. Probably the most important factor is the rise of cost of living, the increase in inflation compared to salaries. Parents don’t have as much disposable income so they can’t put their kids in clubs to keep them off the streets. these kids see their parents struggling, see that they cannot afford what they want, so they go out on the streets and start committing crimes to make money, like selling drugs. This will then obviously lead to post code wars and an increase in knife crime. " More on this, Baltimore in the US ranks as the city with the third highest homicide rate, but recently they’ve recorded their lowest homicide rate ever. They invested more in their youth services (summer camps, literacy programs, schools stay open for summer classes, etc.) and seen a huge decrease in crime. It’s almost as if, if you invest in youth services to keep the youth busy doing something productive, they’ll stay off the streets and not get involved in gang life. It’s the saying, ‘idle hands are the devils workshop’. | |||
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"Go watch the film colours see what gang life in la is like. You’ll be shocked to realise that movies are not 100% accurate and not a good source of information. Stupid thing to say is the Quran or bible or any book you studied from at school 100 percent accurate no but people still follow. When you get on a plane is it 100 percent chance you land safely no but still got on.Name anything in life that is 100 percent? 👏👏👏👏👏👏" | |||
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"Go watch the film colours see what gang life in la is like. You’ll be shocked to realise that movies are not 100% accurate and not a good source of information. Stupid thing to say is the Quran or bible or any book you studied from at school 100 percent accurate no but people still follow. When you get on a plane is it 100 percent chance you land safely no but still got on.Name anything in life that is 100 percent? 👏👏👏👏👏👏" | |||
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"Simple fact you grow up in a crime ridden council estate in rubbish areas you probably won’t do well in life. If you grow up with good parents with good area they have decent jobs you will follow.Most people are a product of there environment. " Your statement is somewhat correct. This is why investing in youth is so vital, but it's ok, we spend more on vanity projects than kids so we can keep everyone locked into their environment. Anecdotally, there are some that move out of their environment through solid work, a bit of luck and determination. There are plenty that fall from the pillar too. | |||
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"Breaking News. When I was a kid everyone carried a knife. To carve wood, make things, cut string and fishing line etc. We did not stab people. When the woke lunatics took over the asylum it changed. Ban discipline in schools, ban the cane. Make a Police Force a Police Service. The woke fuckwits are now the woke parents ... " Totally agree with you There is no discipline anymore | |||
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"A lot of times you see flowers wrapped around a tree were someone was killed with sign fallen Soulja. Adam don’t talk about London you don’t live there I do, I know better talk about your area.I wouldn’t disagree with you on your area I haven’t been there so I don’t know.Don’t be expert on your location. " You don’t live in Los Angeles but yet you speak about the gangs in LA, see, your argument doesn’t make sense does it? | |||
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"Go watch the film colours see what gang life in la is like. You’ll be shocked to realise that movies are not 100% accurate and not a good source of information. Stupid thing to say is the Quran or bible or any book you studied from at school 100 percent accurate no but people still follow. When you get on a plane is it 100 percent chance you land safely no but still got on.Name anything in life that is 100 percent? 👏👏👏👏👏👏" Films are over dramatised to exaggerate what’s happening, to watch a film and then to think you can come up with conclusions on society doesn’t make sense at all. | |||
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"Your a stupid guy I lived in Wembley l used to have a clip on my phone of black guy shooting dead another black guy outside latty & sons barbers in monks park same dad in the park a black guy stabbed to death.Recently a black guy ice cream van driver was stabbed to death by a relative. Go search see if I’m lying. Black guy shot outside cystals nightclub near stadium recently search see if I’m lying you want to tell me what happened in London but I live here you don’t you’re very dumb person. " What’s the point you’re trying to make exactly and how does this counter any of the points I made regarding knife crime and the correlation between the underfunding of youth services and the increase in knife crime? | |||
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"One problem also is people that never pay tax want loads of tax spent on them.All both parties do now is borrow money.So much tax now just covers interest on the trillions owed until that’s fixed other things can’t be fixed. " This same anecdote has been used since the inception of the welfare state. "Those that don't pay tax" - benefits are taxed and therefore anyone receiving them contributes too. The biggest claimants being those of retirement age as the state pension (lowest in europe) is a benefit. The vast, vast majority (avoiding % because I simply can't be bothered to confirm it) are working in some capacity, whether that is part time or full time. The idea that those on benefits are all running around in adidas tracksuits, whipping around in a rangerover, while dealing drugs and living life like a millionaire is not only monumentally stupid but absolutely ridiculous. Anecdotally, you'll find plenty of examples but in the real world most people on benefits are either dodging a coffin or physically/mentally to unwell to maintain a job. Are you suggesting those people should just die or should we execute them? Maybe we could put them in camps, you do know "work sets you free"? | |||
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"You talk about cuts to funding you see the debt this country is in? That has nothing to do with my points, the thread is about why knife crime is so prominent over the last 15 years, and I think it’s because of the severe cut in funding to youth services. im saying cuts to funding is because of the debt we are in not hard to understand. " The whole thread is about why knife crime has increased over the last 15 years, I gave my reasons as it’s clearly correlated with the underfunding of youth services. It’s understandable why they’ve been cut but I’m speaking about the consequences of the underfunding of youth services due to the budget cuts. Actions have consequences | |||
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"One problem also is people that never pay tax want loads of tax spent on them.All both parties do now is borrow money.So much tax now just covers interest on the trillions owed until that’s fixed other things can’t be fixed. This same anecdote has been used since the inception of the welfare state. "Those that don't pay tax" - benefits are taxed and therefore anyone receiving them contributes too. The biggest claimants being those of retirement age as the state pension (lowest in europe) is a benefit. The vast, vast majority (avoiding % because I simply can't be bothered to confirm it) are working in some capacity, whether that is part time or full time. The idea that those on benefits are all running around in adidas tracksuits, whipping around in a rangerover, while dealing drugs and living life like a millionaire is not only monumentally stupid but absolutely ridiculous. Anecdotally, you'll find plenty of examples but in the real world most people on benefits are either dodging a coffin or physically/mentally to unwell to maintain a job. Are you suggesting those people should just die or should we execute them? Maybe we could put them in camps, you do know "work sets you free"?" Your a liar lowest pension in Europe go search? I work with people that went from full time hours to part time to get rent paid in full so I know this happens maybe you don’t know people doing this so in your world don’t exist.I don’t class a pension as benefits you work you pay NI to cover this. | |||
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"One problem also is people that never pay tax want loads of tax spent on them.All both parties do now is borrow money.So much tax now just covers interest on the trillions owed until that’s fixed other things can’t be fixed. This same anecdote has been used since the inception of the welfare state. "Those that don't pay tax" - benefits are taxed and therefore anyone receiving them contributes too. The biggest claimants being those of retirement age as the state pension (lowest in europe) is a benefit. The vast, vast majority (avoiding % because I simply can't be bothered to confirm it) are working in some capacity, whether that is part time or full time. The idea that those on benefits are all running around in adidas tracksuits, whipping around in a rangerover, while dealing drugs and living life like a millionaire is not only monumentally stupid but absolutely ridiculous. Anecdotally, you'll find plenty of examples but in the real world most people on benefits are either dodging a coffin or physically/mentally to unwell to maintain a job. Are you suggesting those people should just die or should we execute them? Maybe we could put them in camps, you do know "work sets you free"?Your a liar lowest pension in Europe go search? I work with people that went from full time hours to part time to get rent paid in full so I know this happens maybe you don’t know people doing this so in your world don’t exist.I don’t class a pension as benefits you work you pay NI to cover this. " No, we have the lowest pension in europe. It's still a benefit whether you want to claim otherwise is entirely based on you're ability to accept facts over lies that you're telling yourself. The vast majority of UC/benefit claimants have also paid into the system. Your average pension claimant may have paid in, however they will always take more out. I.e and average wage earner will contribute 94k in their working life but if they live to the average age will take out more than £150k. Scroungers in the eyes of those who dislike benefits. Those people you claim have done that are lying, since 2010 there is a maximum amount that local authorities and subsequently UC pays as a housing allowance. That figure is nowhere near the price of rents these days, unless it's a council property and even then, if they have cut their hours down intentionally, I do hope you've reported them so they can be sanctioned as intentionally reducing hours means you're not entitled to additional UC for 6 months. | |||
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"Many reasons, severe cuts in funding for youth services like youth centres. In 2010 there was £1.5bn allocated to youth services, compared to 2025 where it’s £500M so there’s not much for kids to do these days outside of school, so they get involved in ‘gang life’ and hanging around their local estates. More than 1,200 youth centres have closed down since 2010 due to the underfunding of them, again if the youth have nothing to do, they’ll go out on their local estates and get involved in gang life. Probably the most important factor is the rise of cost of living, the increase in inflation compared to salaries. Parents don’t have as much disposable income so they can’t put their kids in clubs to keep them off the streets. these kids see their parents struggling, see that they cannot afford what they want, so they go out on the streets and start committing crimes to make money, like selling drugs. This will then obviously lead to post code wars and an increase in knife crime. More on this, Baltimore in the US ranks as the city with the third highest homicide rate, but recently they’ve recorded their lowest homicide rate ever. They invested more in their youth services (summer camps, literacy programs, schools stay open for summer classes, etc.) and seen a huge decrease in crime. It’s almost as if, if you invest in youth services to keep the youth busy doing something productive, they’ll stay off the streets and not get involved in gang life. It’s the saying, ‘idle hands are the devils workshop’. " Trump intervened in Baltimore. Job done. | |||
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"Do gooders say can’t do stop & search blaming poverty bulsshit Its an easy way to earn money Instead of a government training scheme you can make £100s a day delivering parcels The kids will tell you getting stabbed is an occupational hazard " Poverty is directly correlated with a higher crime rate | |||
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" No, we have the lowest pension in europe. . " Stop talking shit, state pension comparisons between European countries are notoriously difficult to do and the stats are skewed when just looking at it individually. They have to be examined right from how they are funded and all other aspects of state funding and benefits. For example, not every European country has an NHS, certainly not on the exact same basis as the UK NHS. So, a European may have a higher monetary level of a pension compared to a Brit but they may have to pay more from their pension on health, which would not be unusual for those in their dotage, depending on what health system is in place. The UK compares very highly for pensioners across the world, not just Europe, when all things are considered, despite the state pension being the lowest or amongst the lowest. | |||
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"A lot of times you see flowers wrapped around a tree were someone was killed with sign fallen Soulja. Adam don’t talk about London you don’t live there I do, I know better talk about your area.I wouldn’t disagree with you on your area I haven’t been there so I don’t know.Don’t be expert on your location. You don’t live in Los Angeles but yet you speak about the gangs in LA, see, your argument doesn’t make sense does it?" If someone from la wants to tell me I’m wrong. You seem to think you know more about crime in London I live here you don’t I wouldn’t claim to know more about your city than you that’s the problem. | |||
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"A lot of times you see flowers wrapped around a tree were someone was killed with sign fallen Soulja. Adam don’t talk about London you don’t live there I do, I know better talk about your area.I wouldn’t disagree with you on your area I haven’t been there so I don’t know.Don’t be expert on your location. You don’t live in Los Angeles but yet you speak about the gangs in LA, see, your argument doesn’t make sense does it?If someone from la wants to tell me I’m wrong. You seem to think you know more about crime in London I live here you don’t I wouldn’t claim to know more about your city than you that’s the problem. " You don’t have to live in London to speak about London. All the data and statistics is out there for people to read and look at, also it’s the capital of the country I live in, so I can speak on it. What a stupid argument that is | |||
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"If all of your information comes from movies, your mates wife, or someone you work with, then it’s clear you’re not a competent person to have a conversation with x " Where does your information come from I read the local newspaper I pass places that are taped of by the police you know more about crime in London but don’t live there I know 4 people that’s been to jail what makes you know more when you don’t live in London? | |||
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"If all of your information comes from movies, your mates wife, or someone you work with, then it’s clear you’re not a competent person to have a conversation with x Where does your information come from I read the local newspaper I pass places that are taped of by the police you know more about crime in London but don’t live there I know 4 people that’s been to jail what makes you know more when you don’t live in London?" Government data, NHS data, which is available online and much more reliable than your mates wife, your jail friends, and the fiction movies you watch | |||
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"Adam you should run for next mayor of London you seem to know so much about London.Have you ever been here you could solve are crime problems your so wise for a 25 year old. " I work in London so I’m there quite a lot actually, also, where have I said I could solve crime? I’ve given my reasons for why I think knife crime has been prominent over the last 15-16 years. No where have I stated ways to clear up knife crime. Whereas, all you’ve stated is that you’ve seen black people stab other black people, you draw conclusions from fiction movies, you know several people who have been to jail, and your mates Mrs is a police officer, which all have zero relevance to anything. You’re obviously not a very competent person and you struggle with comprehension. | |||
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"I guy I work with lives on south Kilburn estate the gang in his estate are having a war with Mozart estate." Indeed, it's been carrying on for years. A young woman died in the crossfire not too long ago in a drive by, a restaurant on Kilburn High Rd. You've also had similar wars going on between black youths in Tottenham and Hackney, and Turkish youths in Tottenham and Hackney. | |||
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"I guy I work with lives on south Kilburn estate the gang in his estate are having a war with Mozart estate. Indeed, it's been carrying on for years. A young woman died in the crossfire not too long ago in a drive by, a restaurant on Kilburn High Rd. You've also had similar wars going on between black youths in Tottenham and Hackney, and Turkish youths in Tottenham and Hackney. " Sounds like tribal warfare | |||
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"Adam you should run for next mayor of London you seem to know so much about London.Have you ever been here you could solve are crime problems your so wise for a 25 year old. I work in London so I’m there quite a lot actually, also, where have I said I could solve crime? I’ve given my reasons for why I think knife crime has been prominent over the last 15-16 years. No where have I stated ways to clear up knife crime. Whereas, all you’ve stated is that you’ve seen black people stab other black people, you draw conclusions from fiction movies, you know several people who have been to jail, and your mates Mrs is a police officer, which all have zero relevance to anything. You’re obviously not a very competent person and you struggle with comprehension. " "You’re obviously not a very competent person and you struggle with comprehension." Signs of someone losing a battle to be fair... | |||
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"Adam you should run for next mayor of London you seem to know so much about London.Have you ever been here you could solve are crime problems your so wise for a 25 year old. I work in London so I’m there quite a lot actually, also, where have I said I could solve crime? I’ve given my reasons for why I think knife crime has been prominent over the last 15-16 years. No where have I stated ways to clear up knife crime. Whereas, all you’ve stated is that you’ve seen black people stab other black people, you draw conclusions from fiction movies, you know several people who have been to jail, and your mates Mrs is a police officer, which all have zero relevance to anything. You’re obviously not a very competent person and you struggle with comprehension. "You’re obviously not a very competent person and you struggle with comprehension." Signs of someone losing a battle to be fair... " Not really, if you actually read our back and forth, he doesn’t say anything of substance and his clear lack of comprehension just proves it | |||
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"But you personally attacking someone because of their personal views shows how much you lack intellectual convesation, granted it was once there but intellegence stopd completely as soon as insults and direct attacks are thrown. Therefore, you're losing a battle." He has personally attacked me several times, I’m also not here to win battles, and don’t care enough either. I gave my reasons as to why I think that knife crime has been prominent in the last 16 years, which can be read earlier up in the thread, and I also linked the NHS data which shows it’s actually at a low compared to previous years. Whereas the other guy draws his conclusions from fiction movies, doesn’t say anything of substance, and gives personal digs. | |||
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"As I said how can I learn about London crime from a film based in LA. Can you read I said I know 4 people that’s been to jail only 1 is a friend. If you work with someone is that someone you know or a friend you twist things I never said friends wife was the police. I don’t believe you work in London make things up to fit the argument." You don’t have any actual points though, and you don’t even know why you’re arguing with me I gave my reasons as to why I think knife crime in London is prominent, and then you started going at me for whatever reason saying I should be the mayor all because I said your sources (mates wife, jail friends or whatever, and movies) are not accurate compared to the bigger picture. I’ll be working in London on the 26th and 27th if you want to say hi | |||
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"I named plenty of violent incidents that happened in Wembley were I used to live.Most stabbings near me a black guys which seemed to upset you.I also only know about crimes in London from films not because I live there you don’t make any sense. Are all the films about ww2 made up any truth in there should I ask you what happened because at 25 you would have been around. " Why would that upset me? No where did I disagree that the majority of knife crime were from black people, in fact I agreed with you in the first post that I replied to you on Again, films can be overdramatised. It’s like watching Top Boy and thinking it’s real life, yeah it draws on real life for inspiration but it is still fiction. I’ve also not argued about race anywhere on this thread, I just stated why I think knife crime is prominent (due to budget cuts for youth services) You’ve made it a racial issue where I haven't argued with you about Also, my age (or my height) which you strangely point out, have nothing to do with any of the points that I made. | |||
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"I named plenty of violent incidents that happened in Wembley were I used to live.Most stabbings near me a black guys which seemed to upset you.I also only know about crimes in London from films not because I live there you don’t make any sense. Are all the films about ww2 made up any truth in there should I ask you what happened because at 25 you would have been around. No point in arguing with someone who is 25 and always seems to want the final say... I mean clearly he knowd a LOT more about it than us who has witness major events even before he was born! Gah! Youngsters these days! 😂" What does my age have anything to do with what I’ve said? | |||
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