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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes." I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation. | |||
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"Paul Pogba (€105m from Juventus, 2016) Antony (€95m from Ajax, 2022) Jadon Sancho (€85m from Borussia Dortmund, 2021) Romelu Lukaku (€84.7m from Everton, 2017) Ángel Di María (€75m from Real Madrid, 2014) Can you identify who has financially colonized the UK?" Colonised Cheshire - playing at lords and ladies around the lanes amd bye ways of Knutsford | |||
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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes. I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation." So, did starmer put Radcliffes words in the press? | |||
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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes. I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation. So, did starmer put Radcliffes words in the press? " Certainly not, but since when have the statements of individuals troubled the government? Does this imply that in the future he will require every single person to apologise for their remarks, or will he solely focus on his party and the chaos they have created thus far? | |||
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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes. I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation. So, did starmer put Radcliffes words in the press? Certainly not, but since when have the statements of individuals troubled the government? Does this imply that in the future he will require every single person to apologise for their remarks, or will he solely focus on his party and the chaos they have created thus far?" I'm pretty sure he's called out people for being racist before like farage. Wouldn't you expect your pm to speak up when a man worth billions talks bollox about our country and even says money is wasted on immigrants. If radcliffe was that worried he could always pay tax here to help. Farage also highlighted when a tory supporter gave them 20million and said he hates Diane abbot and when he sees her he wants to shoot all black people. If you think those comments are ok, then I disagree. | |||
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"Starmer sees no problem with the colonisation situation and condemns any pushback against it. Any immigrant I know seems to be on lots of benefits. Labour will ignores all this, Reform won't. " Brits whining about "the colonisation situation". Oh, the irony!!  | |||
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"I think he’s talking illegal migration not legal migration some come here work support themselves. Others come looking for benefits with their begging bowl out. " They can't work till they have passed immigration. Change the law and they could / would have to work. But still, why doesn't he pay his tax here and why did he accept 70m from our government then move his tax to Monaco. Irony. | |||
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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes. I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation. So, did starmer put Radcliffes words in the press? Certainly not, but since when have the statements of individuals troubled the government? Does this imply that in the future he will require every single person to apologise for their remarks, or will he solely focus on his party and the chaos they have created thus far? I'm pretty sure he's called out people for being racist before like farage. Wouldn't you expect your pm to speak up when a man worth billions talks bollox about our country and even says money is wasted on immigrants. If radcliffe was that worried he could always pay tax here to help. Farage also highlighted when a tory supporter gave them 20million and said he hates Diane abbot and when he sees her he wants to shoot all black people. If you think those comments are ok, then I disagree. " I am not defending Ratcliffe or, oh dear, Farage; on the contrary, I believe they both conduct themselves poorly in interviews and are likely racists. However, this does not imply that Starmer, who is a liar, would have made any statements if he were not facing difficulties himself. He must address the issues within his own party before criticizing others. I am quite certain he has remained silent on numerous occasions. | |||
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"Knowing next to nothing about football I had assumed this person was a high ranking civil servant. Burst out laughing when I discovered he was to do with a top ranking football club made up almost entirely of immigrant players. Well it is allegedly a free country and we do have freedom of speech--I think! Being a bit of a cynic can't help but think this is the wondrous Sir Keir trying to cause a distraction from all his current woes. I completely concur; undoubtedly, he would not make any statements to him unless he had the Epstein file in front of him. It is a total distraction, and he remains unable to evade that situation. So, did starmer put Radcliffes words in the press? Certainly not, but since when have the statements of individuals troubled the government? Does this imply that in the future he will require every single person to apologise for their remarks, or will he solely focus on his party and the chaos they have created thus far? I'm pretty sure he's called out people for being racist before like farage. Wouldn't you expect your pm to speak up when a man worth billions talks bollox about our country and even says money is wasted on immigrants. If radcliffe was that worried he could always pay tax here to help. Farage also highlighted when a tory supporter gave them 20million and said he hates Diane abbot and when he sees her he wants to shoot all black people. If you think those comments are ok, then I disagree. I am not defending Ratcliffe or, oh dear, Farage; on the contrary, I believe they both conduct themselves poorly in interviews and are likely racists. However, this does not imply that Starmer, who is a liar, would have made any statements if he were not facing difficulties himself. He must address the issues within his own party before criticizing others. I am quite certain he has remained silent on numerous occasions." Absolutely correct. Does seem a bit ironical that Starmer is making a big fuss about this, and the papers have made it front page headlines, on a week when Starmer's premiership has been teetering on the brink. | |||
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"Think his choice of words is poor . Sure he is entitled to his opinion just like Gary Lineker. However he has a broad church to satisfy and would’ve been easier to let others debate while he concentrates on footy and his tax affairs. " Lineker expressed regret for the video, acknowledging it as a mistake. In contrast, Ratcliff stated his intentions clearly and has yet to issue an apology. Should such statements carry consequences in democratic nations? For instance, consider Jeremy Clarkson's remarks in the Sun regarding Meghan, which were utterly appalling. These statements are undeniably racist and should not be confused with the concept of free speech, a topic JD Vance has been addressing in his discussions with Europeans about free expression. | |||
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"He says what most of us all see and know. Those on the left will be screeming in their safe space calling for him to be cancelled." He didnt mention all those immigrants playing footie..at man u...or tbe fact he is an immigrant in monaco.. U all see what? The ability to know be racist..i see Trump is cancelling queers in USA..he is on your side as well.. Pathetic .. | |||
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"Immigrants paid £600 billion in UK tax in 2025 Ratcliffe paid £0 in taxes in UK tax in 2025. So what the fu*k gives him any right to make these comments. Idiot. " Brilliant viewpoint  . These individuals perceive immigrants as fools in their presence. Furthermore, it is important to remember that he has amassed wealth through the oil and gas industry, which has predominantly originated from the countries of immigrants, enabling his business to thrive and become prosperous. Without the oil and gas sector, he would likely be operating a fish and chips shop in close proximity to his residence. | |||
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"Andy Burnham has called out Radcliffe, as the mayor of Manchester is he hiding from the epstien troubles? Radcliffe who complains about the money immigrants cost has received over 100 million quid in state subsidies, that out taxes paying him, a man worth 24 billion. " And he has taken over £70million from the government ( our tax money) to shore up his own failing businesses | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right?" The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens. | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens." You are obviously clueless about the plethora of young African kids all these clubs have living over here from the ages of 12 up who they then discard at 16 when they decide that they aren't good enough. | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right?" Yes he's a hypocrite, wonder how many "undesirables" are Man U fans too | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens. You are obviously clueless about the plethora of young African kids all these clubs have living over here from the ages of 12 up who they then discard at 16 when they decide that they aren't good enough." How many of these 'young African kids' are over here? Clubs certainly have kids on their books but they're not on contract because of their age, but it's mainly British kids. One of my sons played football to a really high standard when young, and has mates who went on to play pro after being with Prem Club academies. Maybe I actually know more than you. | |||
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"Evidently this Sir Jim Ratcliffe has now made a rather restrained apology for his badly worded remarks. Having now heard what he originally said and the apology, I can probably see where he is coming from and I have heard an awful lot worse. He has as much right to say what he thinks as indeed do the rest of us. Wouldn't have thought that may people would have been offended but who knows. Still think Starmer was using this as a distraction. And to quote a couple of old cliches talk about 'making a mountain out of a molehill' and the whole thing is a 'storm in a teacup'" It's funny how when a public figure is asked to give their opinion and does then that's fine, free speech, when Starmer is asked bout those comments and he responds he's "distracting". Think Starmer would get crucified by many for simply saying good morning to the postman | |||
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"Starmer sees no problem with the colonisation situation and condemns any pushback against it. Any immigrant I know seems to be on lots of benefits. Labour will ignores all this, Reform won't. " Funny how you only no an immigrant on benefits..u are full of shit. | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens. You are obviously clueless about the plethora of young African kids all these clubs have living over here from the ages of 12 up who they then discard at 16 when they decide that they aren't good enough. How many of these 'young African kids' are over here? Clubs certainly have kids on their books but they're not on contract because of their age, but it's mainly British kids. One of my sons played football to a really high standard when young, and has mates who went on to play pro after being with Prem Club academies. Maybe I actually know more than you." You clearly don't just cos a mate of a mate of a mate played pro football. I know someone who actually provided board and lodgings to one of these kids and they were part of the community with other families doing the same. Football clubs are using and discarding young kids from here and abroad. | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right?" Why would any country want to import/welcome/encourage poor immigrant foreigners? We aren't a Global welfare State. | |||
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"Paul Pogba (€105m from Juventus, 2016) Antony (€95m from Ajax, 2022) Jadon Sancho (€85m from Borussia Dortmund, 2021) Romelu Lukaku (€84.7m from Everton, 2017) Ángel Di María (€75m from Real Madrid, 2014) Can you identify who has financially colonized the UK?" Jason Sancho is English. (Born in Camberwell , played for Watford and Man City before going to Dortmund) | |||
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"“Sir Keir Starmer said the UK risks becoming an “island of strangers” without controls on immigration as he unveiled a crackdown including plans to cut overseas care workers and tighten English language requirements.” Is it that different? " Very different, he's talking rationally about the dangers that could, COULD, happen. Sir Jim (who else had that moniker?) said the country HAD been colonised, which is clearly untrue and irrational | |||
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"“Sir Keir Starmer said the UK risks becoming an “island of strangers” without controls on immigration as he unveiled a crackdown including plans to cut overseas care workers and tighten English language requirements.” Is it that different? Very different, he's talking rationally about the dangers that could, COULD, happen. Sir Jim (who else had that moniker?) said the country HAD been colonised, which is clearly untrue and irrational " The language used and the implications are not that different. Starmer spoke about the risk of not curbing immigration (given the amount we have already had and continue to have) Ratcliffe was just saying that it’s already happened. That’s a matter of opinion rather than untrue and irrational. | |||
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"“Sir Keir Starmer said the UK risks becoming an “island of strangers” without controls on immigration as he unveiled a crackdown including plans to cut overseas care workers and tighten English language requirements.” Is it that different? Very different, he's talking rationally about the dangers that could, COULD, happen. Sir Jim (who else had that moniker?) said the country HAD been colonised, which is clearly untrue and irrational The language used and the implications are not that different. Starmer spoke about the risk of not curbing immigration (given the amount we have already had and continue to have) Ratcliffe was just saying that it’s already happened. That’s a matter of opinion rather than untrue and irrational. " Really? So we have been colonised? What utter nonsense, just pure divisive, fear mongering rhetoric | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right?" Yes… a bit like if you wanted to move to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, the USA. etc etc. | |||
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"“Sir Keir Starmer said the UK risks becoming an “island of strangers” without controls on immigration as he unveiled a crackdown including plans to cut overseas care workers and tighten English language requirements.” Is it that different? Very different, he's talking rationally about the dangers that could, COULD, happen. Sir Jim (who else had that moniker?) said the country HAD been colonised, which is clearly untrue and irrational The language used and the implications are not that different. Starmer spoke about the risk of not curbing immigration (given the amount we have already had and continue to have) Ratcliffe was just saying that it’s already happened. That’s a matter of opinion rather than untrue and irrational. Really? So we have been colonised? What utter nonsense, just pure divisive, fear mongering rhetoric " Have you visited the suburbs of cities like Birmingham lately? | |||
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"“Sir Keir Starmer said the UK risks becoming an “island of strangers” without controls on immigration as he unveiled a crackdown including plans to cut overseas care workers and tighten English language requirements.” Is it that different? Very different, he's talking rationally about the dangers that could, COULD, happen. Sir Jim (who else had that moniker?) said the country HAD been colonised, which is clearly untrue and irrational The language used and the implications are not that different. Starmer spoke about the risk of not curbing immigration (given the amount we have already had and continue to have) Ratcliffe was just saying that it’s already happened. That’s a matter of opinion rather than untrue and irrational. Really? So we have been colonised? What utter nonsense, just pure divisive, fear mongering rhetoric Have you visited the suburbs of cities like Birmingham lately? " Not Birmingham but Bolton, Manchester, Preston, Oldham, Rochdale, ..... Yes. There is a problem with immigration and integration, nobody is denying that, certainly not KS as the quote above proves. But it requires a detailed adult conversation, not the kind of rubbish that Sir Jimmy (again, where have I heard that?) came out with | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? Yes… a bit like if you wanted to move to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, the USA. etc etc. " Spain? All our dregs go there | |||
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"Starmer sees no problem with the colonisation situation and condemns any pushback against it. Any immigrant I know seems to be on lots of benefits. Labour will ignores all this, Reform won't. " How many do you know?? Have they all told you about their benefits? | |||
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"Maybe visit some of the areas that have been changed by immigration and get your heads out of the sand....Bradford, Dewsbury, Southall, Bury Park Luton, Forest Gate, Barking, Dagenham, Whitechapel etc etc" You certainly have travelled | |||
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"Immigrants paid £600 billion in UK tax in 2025 Ratcliffe paid £0 in taxes in UK tax in 2025. So what the fu*k gives him any right to make these comments. Idiot. " 600 billion? Where the hell did you get that figure from…idiot | |||
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"Like him or not, agree with him or not, he is entitled to his opinion. Starmer has no right to demand that he withdraws his comments and apologise. " Starmer has jumped on this as a distraction from his problems over Mandelson and grooming gangs scandal. Hoping that everyone forgets and moves on | |||
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" Still think Starmer was using this as a distraction. And to quote a couple of old cliches talk about 'making a mountain out of a molehill' and the whole thing is a 'storm in a teacup' It's funny how when a public figure is asked to give their opinion and does then that's fine, free speech, when Starmer is asked bout those comments and he responds he's "distracting". Think Starmer would get crucified by many for simply saying good morning to the postman" Quite right too. How dare this appalling man, whom you seem so fond of, go upsetting postmen. Just no right!  | |||
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"Immigrants paid £600 billion in UK tax in 2025 Ratcliffe paid £0 in taxes in UK tax in 2025. So what the fu*k gives him any right to make these comments. Idiot. 600 billion? Where the hell did you get that figure from…idiot " Interesting number since the total raised from Income Tax, National Insurance and VAT in 2024/25 was £650 billion. | |||
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" Still think Starmer was using this as a distraction. And to quote a couple of old cliches talk about 'making a mountain out of a molehill' and the whole thing is a 'storm in a teacup' It's funny how when a public figure is asked to give their opinion and does then that's fine, free speech, when Starmer is asked bout those comments and he responds he's "distracting". Think Starmer would get crucified by many for simply saying good morning to the postman Quite right too. How dare this appalling man, whom you seem so fond of, go upsetting postmen. Just no right! "Not that keen on him actually, far too soft on rich right-wing pensioners for a start | |||
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"Immigrants paid £600 billion in UK tax in 2025 Ratcliffe paid £0 in taxes in UK tax in 2025. So what the fu*k gives him any right to make these comments. Idiot. " At least his comment was based on logic, reason and observable truth. Your own comment however ....... 
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"I think many comontators here seem to be missing the point. He does not have an issue with migrants who work and pay taxes. It's those how come here by whatever means to simply live of the state of free handouts. And he's right! There i said it. It's just not sustainable, simple maths!" Spot on but the left wing press like to skip that part | |||
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"I think many comontators here seem to be missing the point. He does not have an issue with migrants who work and pay taxes. It's those how come here by whatever means to simply live of the state of free handouts. And he's right! There i said it. It's just not sustainable, simple maths! Spot on but the left wing press like to skip that part " Left wing press 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"Crisis in Football and now extending into politics 🥸🥸" Crisis in football...? Hmmmm? ...Oh!...that should divert the minds of the revolting masses from the diabolical political situation we find ourselves in eh? 😉 | |||
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"He’s right about too many people on benefits, there are and it’s not sustainable. Benefits should be a help through a sticky situation, not a career path. He could have put it across a bit better though. He does have a bit of a point on colonisation too. I moved into my current house 30ish years ago. Everyone on the block knew everyone. People were in and out of each others houses for a brew and a chat all the time. Any problem, there was always someone about that knew how to fix it. Everyone knew everyone else’s kids, so they were safe to play out. A stranger on the block stood out like a sore thumb. Now you’re lucky if you can speak the same language as your next door neighbour. No one chats, and hardly anyone even says hello. This can’t just be happening on one block in the country, so whilst it’s not exactly colonisation, something has drastically shifted." A quarter of a mile from me is a hotel housing immigrants. A quarter of mile in the opposite direction is a council estate where the majority are on benefits, are petty criminals, county line kids, mum's taking their kids to school in their dressing gowns half an hour late. And guess what nationality they all are? And guess where all the local problems come from? Give you a clue, it ain't the hotel | |||
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"I think many comontators here seem to be missing the point. He does not have an issue with migrants who work and pay taxes. It's those how come here by whatever means to simply live of the state of free handouts. And he's right! There i said it. It's just not sustainable, simple maths!" Does this imply that we were colonized by those who are undocumented? My goodness, how is it possible for someone to overlook such absurdities? | |||
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"He’s right about too many people on benefits, there are and it’s not sustainable. Benefits should be a help through a sticky situation, not a career path. He could have put it across a bit better though. He does have a bit of a point on colonisation too. I moved into my current house 30ish years ago. Everyone on the block knew everyone. People were in and out of each others houses for a brew and a chat all the time. Any problem, there was always someone about that knew how to fix it. Everyone knew everyone else’s kids, so they were safe to play out. A stranger on the block stood out like a sore thumb. Now you’re lucky if you can speak the same language as your next door neighbour. No one chats, and hardly anyone even says hello. This can’t just be happening on one block in the country, so whilst it’s not exactly colonisation, something has drastically shifted. A quarter of a mile from me is a hotel housing immigrants. A quarter of mile in the opposite direction is a council estate where the majority are on benefits, are petty criminals, county line kids, mum's taking their kids to school in their dressing gowns half an hour late. And guess what nationality they all are? And guess where all the local problems come from? Give you a clue, it ain't the hotel" If you read the my post, I wasn’t laying any blame at anyone’s door. I just said benefits shouldn’t be a career path and something has changed in our society, and in those two things Mr Ratcliffe was correct. He didn’t word it well, and he’s possibly not the right man to point it out anyway, but i don’t think his basic idea was incorrect. | |||
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"He’s right about too many people on benefits, there are and it’s not sustainable. Benefits should be a help through a sticky situation, not a career path. He could have put it across a bit better though. He does have a bit of a point on colonisation too. I moved into my current house 30ish years ago. Everyone on the block knew everyone. People were in and out of each others houses for a brew and a chat all the time. Any problem, there was always someone about that knew how to fix it. Everyone knew everyone else’s kids, so they were safe to play out. A stranger on the block stood out like a sore thumb. Now you’re lucky if you can speak the same language as your next door neighbour. No one chats, and hardly anyone even says hello. This can’t just be happening on one block in the country, so whilst it’s not exactly colonisation, something has drastically shifted. A quarter of a mile from me is a hotel housing immigrants. A quarter of mile in the opposite direction is a council estate where the majority are on benefits, are petty criminals, county line kids, mum's taking their kids to school in their dressing gowns half an hour late. And guess what nationality they all are? And guess where all the local problems come from? Give you a clue, it ain't the hotel If you read the my post, I wasn’t laying any blame at anyone’s door. I just said benefits shouldn’t be a career path and something has changed in our society, and in those two things Mr Ratcliffe was correct. He didn’t word it well, and he’s possibly not the right man to point it out anyway, but i don’t think his basic idea was incorrect." Benefits culture has been a massive issue for decades, stemming from Thatcher in my opinion, especially in this part of the world. But Sir Jim (keeps ringing a bell that name) was only talking about immigrants on benefits, never said anything about homogeneous benefit scroungers. | |||
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"He’s right about too many people on benefits, there are and it’s not sustainable. Benefits should be a help through a sticky situation, not a career path. He could have put it across a bit better though. He does have a bit of a point on colonisation too. I moved into my current house 30ish years ago. Everyone on the block knew everyone. People were in and out of each others houses for a brew and a chat all the time. Any problem, there was always someone about that knew how to fix it. Everyone knew everyone else’s kids, so they were safe to play out. A stranger on the block stood out like a sore thumb. Now you’re lucky if you can speak the same language as your next door neighbour. No one chats, and hardly anyone even says hello. This can’t just be happening on one block in the country, so whilst it’s not exactly colonisation, something has drastically shifted." Maybe you could start a trend by being the one that says hello in the morning. Its amazing what a smile and a kind word does to the world. And again, if he paid tax here then he would help with the cost. | |||
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"I think many comontators here seem to be missing the point. He does not have an issue with migrants who work and pay taxes. It's those how come here by whatever means to simply live of the state of free handouts. And he's right! There i said it. It's just not sustainable, simple maths! Spot on but the left wing press like to skip that part " Is this left wing press in the room with you 👻👻 | |||
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"Starmer sees no problem with the colonisation situation and condemns any pushback against it. Any immigrant I know seems to be on lots of benefits. Labour will ignores all this, Reform won't. Brits whining about "the colonisation situation". Oh, the irony!! "I was waiting for that.. grow up for FFS… you’re not in the student union bar now | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens. You are obviously clueless about the plethora of young African kids all these clubs have living over here from the ages of 12 up who they then discard at 16 when they decide that they aren't good enough. How many of these 'young African kids' are over here? Clubs certainly have kids on their books but they're not on contract because of their age, but it's mainly British kids. One of my sons played football to a really high standard when young, and has mates who went on to play pro after being with Prem Club academies. Maybe I actually know more than you. You clearly don't just cos a mate of a mate of a mate played pro football. I know someone who actually provided board and lodgings to one of these kids and they were part of the community with other families doing the same. Football clubs are using and discarding young kids from here and abroad." I know full well how the system works, a mate of mine provides board and lodging for Arsenal and has done so for years. I remember when he was looking after Wilshire and Szczesny. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, the kids and their parents know full well there are no guarantees. | |||
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"So the stream of immigrants he brings into the country as performing ponies for 90 minutes is fine? It’s poor ones we don’t want, right? The players he brings in are paid well, taxed, and make a positive contribution to the economy. They come here legitimately, with the necessary work visas, and generally head back to their home countries when their contracts expire. As far as I'm aware, none of them use up our valuable resources such as government funded taxis to reach overburdened NHS appointments, or live in council-funded accomodation at the expense of our own citizens. You are obviously clueless about the plethora of young African kids all these clubs have living over here from the ages of 12 up who they then discard at 16 when they decide that they aren't good enough. How many of these 'young African kids' are over here? Clubs certainly have kids on their books but they're not on contract because of their age, but it's mainly British kids. One of my sons played football to a really high standard when young, and has mates who went on to play pro after being with Prem Club academies. Maybe I actually know more than you. You clearly don't just cos a mate of a mate of a mate played pro football. I know someone who actually provided board and lodgings to one of these kids and they were part of the community with other families doing the same. Football clubs are using and discarding young kids from here and abroad. I know full well how the system works, a mate of mine provides board and lodging for Arsenal and has done so for years. I remember when he was looking after Wilshire and Szczesny. This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, the kids and their parents know full well there are no guarantees." Your opening boast was about a mate of your son's being good at football, now you say your mate lodged those 2, what's that I smell? Is it not the unmistakable aroma of BS? I'm not interested on who has closer ties to football, I couldn't give 2 shits about the sport, but I'm aware of what clubs are doing with young lives, including those from poor foreign families. And if you can't see the hypocrisy then I can't help you | |||
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"I do wonder if the press and media have taken Sir Jim's comments out of context. On the lunchtime news we were only given a snippet of his original comment. The faragite 'stop the boats' and 'illegal immigrants' mantra has convinced a lot of people that all immigrants are scroungers and should not be here. Good immigrants play a vital part in keeping our infrastructure going. e.g. the NHS. They also pay taxes and get on with their lives. Bad immigrants--the minority---do tend to turn up uninvited, expect us to look after them, adapt to their ways and possibly commit crimes. Sir Jim evidently got some of his figures wrong which did not help. He has apologised so a line needs drawing under this now. I might add that Starmer's attitude that all right-wingers--however moderate--are bad is on a par with the Faragite view that all immigrants are evil." Where do you evidence that attitude from? Pure SDS fabrication! | |||
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"I find Ratcliffe’s comments odd. He’s tax exile living Monaco so he’s an economic migrants, arguably doing exactly what he’s complaining about. Pot kettle black? Net migration is down we’re loosing more people than coming in. We don’t have enough people to do jobs so we need migrant. Finally how many migrants play for his football team? " More economic migrants…they come over here, taking our footballers overpaid jobs, buy their oversized houses and crash their overpriced cars. | |||
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"I find Ratcliffe’s comments odd. He’s tax exile living Monaco so he’s an economic migrants, arguably doing exactly what he’s complaining about. Pot kettle black? Net migration is down we’re loosing more people than coming in. We don’t have enough people to do jobs so we need migrant. Finally how many migrants play for his footbal l team? " We wouldn't need all these migrant workers if all the scrounging lazy fuckers on benefits got off their arses and worked for a living. Win win, smaller benefits bill and more tax revenue. Again sinple maths. | |||
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"I find Ratcliffe’s comments odd. He’s tax exile living Monaco so he’s an economic migrants, arguably doing exactly what he’s complaining about. Pot kettle black? Net migration is down we’re loosing more people than coming in. We don’t have enough people to do jobs so we need migrant. Finally how many migrants play for his footbal l team? We wouldn't need all these migrant workers if all the scrounging lazy fuckers on benefits got off their arses and worked for a living. Win win, smaller benefits bill and more tax revenue. Again sinple maths." I presume you mean all the scrounging lazy homogeneous fuckers. As I keep saying, the biggest source of problems in this country are the English | |||
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"I do wonder if the press and media have taken Sir Jim's comments out of context. On the lunchtime news we were only given a snippet of his original comment. The faragite 'stop the boats' and 'illegal immigrants' mantra has convinced a lot of people that all immigrants are scroungers and should not be here. Good immigrants play a vital part in keeping our infrastructure going. e.g. the NHS. They also pay taxes and get on with their lives. Bad immigrants--the minority---do tend to turn up uninvited, expect us to look after them, adapt to their ways and possibly commit crimes. Sir Jim evidently got some of his figures wrong which did not help. He has apologised so a line needs drawing under this now. I might add that Starmer's attitude that all right-wingers--however moderate--are bad is on a par with the Faragite view that all immigrants are evil." | |||
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"The irony of Starmer demanding an appology. we can learn from Jim Ratcliffe , we can learn nothing from Starmer ... And no appology should ever be required for speaking the truth. " The truth being made up population figures and nonsense about being colonised? Go and Google some pseudo-intellectual quote to satisfy your hubris and make an evening bigger tit of yourself | |||
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"I do wonder if the press and media have taken Sir Jim's comments out of context. On the lunchtime news we were only given a snippet of his original comment. The faragite 'stop the boats' and 'illegal immigrants' mantra has convinced a lot of people that all immigrants are scroungers and should not be here. Good immigrants play a vital part in keeping our infrastructure going. e.g. the NHS. They also pay taxes and get on with their lives. Bad immigrants--the minority---do tend to turn up uninvited, expect us to look after them, adapt to their ways and possibly commit crimes. Sir Jim evidently got some of his figures wrong which did not help. He has apologised so a line needs drawing under this now. I might add that Starmer's attitude that all right-wingers--however moderate--are bad is on a par with the Faragite view that all immigrants are evil. Just a point regarding immigrants working in the NHS. We have had such a large increase in patients, if the population figures add up, therefore these millions of immigrants and their offspring all need access to hospitals, dentists etc. That's why we are being told we have an NHS that’s creaking at the seams, and we should feel gratitude for all the immigrants the NHS employs. No one's complaining about NHS workers, but do we really need more barbers, nail salon 'technicians', Uber-Eats drivers and cannabis farmers?" They all add to our GDP. | |||
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"The irony of Starmer demanding an appology. we can learn from Jim Ratcliffe , we can learn nothing from Starmer ... And no appology should ever be required for speaking the truth. The truth being made up population figures and nonsense about being colonised? Go and Google some quote to satisfy your hubris and make an evening bigger tit of yourself " Thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight, dear boy. I'll quote what the man himself said ... "You can't have an economy with 9 million people on benefits and huge numbers of immigrants coming in" - Sir Jim Ratcliffe Not sure if that qualifies as 'pseudo-intellectual' in your narrow eyes ... I suppose it would depend on someone's own intellectual capacities.... or very apparent lack thereof. | |||
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"The irony of Starmer demanding an appology. we can learn from Jim Ratcliffe , we can learn nothing from Starmer ... And no appology should ever be required for speaking the truth. The truth being made up population figures and nonsense about being colonised? Go and Google some quote to satisfy your hubris and make an evening bigger tit of yourself Thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight, dear boy. I'll quote what the man himself said ... "You can't have an economy with 9 million people on benefits and huge numbers of immigrants coming in" - Sir Jim Ratcliffe Not sure if that qualifies as 'pseudo-intellectual' in your narrow eyes ... I suppose it would depend on someone's own intellectual capacities.... or very apparent lack thereof. " Ah sorry, you've put me in my place by choosing 1 part of what he said, ignoring the demonstrably incorrect parts, and the downright batshit crazy parts, and passing that off as the truth. If only I had the intelligence to realise the bit I want to listen to was the truth and not assess the whole interview, I would be so smug and full of my own hubris that even their own mother would want to slap them across the face every time they saw me. | |||
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"Strange that lines and borders only matter when someone says something the lefties and the establishment don't like. And nothing gets their fannies' frothing like a dose of home truths. You can say anything you want ... As long as you stick to the statutory narrative." You ok Hun? Been handed your arse to you on a plate and that's the best you can come up with? I'm so disappointed, not even a line from Keats or Wilde as a reposte | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Yeah, there's nothing more patriotic than tax avoidance, it's what makes the country great! It would only be spent improving the NHS and education so what's the point? Anybody paying taxes is nothing but a traitor!" It’s how the tax system has work for years , for the millionaires and ordinary working guy that has to work away from home as part of their job , not tax avoidance just the tax system their is no citizen in the world kicking down the tax office door to pay money they don’t owe | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Yeah, there's nothing more patriotic than tax avoidance, it's what makes the country great! It would only be spent improving the NHS and education so what's the point? Anybody paying taxes is nothing but a traitor! It’s how the tax system has work for years , for the millionaires and ordinary working guy that has to work away from home as part of their job , not tax avoidance just the tax system their is no citizen in the world kicking down the tax office door to pay money they don’t owe" Ah and here's Gary, fresh from his cash in hand job putting up union jacks outside schools where brown kids go to no doubt. | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Yeah, there's nothing more patriotic than tax avoidance, it's what makes the country great! It would only be spent improving the NHS and education so what's the point? Anybody paying taxes is nothing but a traitor! It’s how the tax system has work for years , for the millionaires and ordinary working guy that has to work away from home as part of their job , not tax avoidance just the tax system their is no citizen in the world kicking down the tax office door to pay money they don’t owe Ah and here's Gary, fresh from his cash in hand job putting up union jacks outside schools where brown kids go to no doubt. No my job is PYE you windbag but I have friends that work out of country on their tax system. But at least unlike the countries tax payers they are not paying for hotel rooms" Apologies, I was under the impression Operation Raise the Colours weren't registered with HMRC, what with them being convicted criminals in other countries, they the mates you're on about? | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Yeah, there's nothing more patriotic than tax avoidance, it's what makes the country great! It would only be spent improving the NHS and education so what's the point? Anybody paying taxes is nothing but a traitor! It’s how the tax system has work for years , for the millionaires and ordinary working guy that has to work away from home as part of their job , not tax avoidance just the tax system their is no citizen in the world kicking down the tax office door to pay money they don’t owe Ah and here's Gary, fresh from his cash in hand job putting up union jacks outside schools where brown kids go to no doubt. No my job is PYE you windbag but I have friends that work out of country on their tax system. But at least unlike the countries tax payers they are not paying for hotel rooms Apologies, I was under the impression Operation Raise the Colours weren't registered with HMRC, what with them being convicted criminals in other countries, they the mates you're on about?" You a real poor at arguing the facts instead of the man , but if that floats your rubber boat then you go for it | |||
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"I do wonder if the press and media have taken Sir Jim's comments out of context. On the lunchtime news we were only given a snippet of his original comment. The faragite 'stop the boats' and 'illegal immigrants' mantra has convinced a lot of people that all immigrants are scroungers and should not be here. Good immigrants play a vital part in keeping our infrastructure going. e.g. the NHS. They also pay taxes and get on with their lives. Bad immigrants--the minority---do tend to turn up uninvited, expect us to look after them, adapt to their ways and possibly commit crimes. Sir Jim evidently got some of his figures wrong which did not help. He has apologised so a line needs drawing under this now. I might add that Starmer's attitude that all right-wingers--however moderate--are bad is on a par with the Faragite view that all immigrants are evil. Where do you evidence that attitude from? Pure SDS fabrication! Strange retort. Methinks you could cause and argument in an empty room "Nah, I need folk like you, Random and GaryNF to engage me, real salt of the earth types. You know, pint in one hand, fag in the other and a union jack in the other | |||
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"Well he's certainly a repeater 🦜 .. But very poorly endowed and firing blanks I didn't feel a thing ... Is it in yet? 🤷🏼♂️" Must have felt it Rando to block me. I believe ice helps but as a giver not a taker I couldn't attest to it | |||
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"Starmer owes everyone an apology but no chance of getting one from that lying clown 🤡 "So does his dad, for not wearing a condom 😂 | |||
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"Nope ... Nothing Just the faint sound of someone desperately trying to get my attention. " Maybe it was the 20 million people who've appeared in the country since 2020. Sorry, not 20, 12. Oh, facts, schmacts, what do they matter. | |||
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"Starmer owes everyone an apology but no chance of getting one from that lying clown 🤡
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"Ratcliffe can say whatever he likes, it's called Freedom of Speech and sometimes it offends" And so can starmer and Burnham. Go figure.. | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. " Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain " And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx.... | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx...." It’s the tax system of the government, it’s their rules blame them | |||
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"Accepting Sir Jim used inappropriate language that didn't help the point he was making… there’s clearly an issue in many parts of the UK that needs a grown up discussion, rather than labelling anyone who dares to raise the subject, even when they do use the correct language, as being far-right or racist. There should also be an acceptance that each person on here will be experiencing a different level of diversity / speed of change within their own town / community. These differences in experiences will drive different, feelings, thoughts, opinions and, ultimately politics. For example… using 2021 Census data, the average percentage of the population that is white is around 82%. This being the average… it compares to one of the most ethnically diverse areas in Britain with 48.6% white in Birmingham (down from 57.9% in 2011) or in St Helens in Merseyside, where it is consistently ranked as one of the least ethnically diverse local areas, with about 98% white. I expect these different experiences explains a number of the differences in opinion in here. Some areas see an issue, whereas others simply don’t… quite literally! " Despite coming from St Helens and so obviously never having seen any of these brown people before, I said exactly the same thing about there needing to be a serious, adult discussion about the problems caused by immigration. I imagine living in Alcester, 98.2% white according to Wikipedia, you're the same and also experience the same issues with poverty, crime, drugs and anti-social behaviour as our fair town does, caused by those dastardly, err, immigrants. Certainly not the lovely white people | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx...." Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance is not. Nothing illegal about living abroad. Perhaps he cannot bear one penny more than neccessary propping up benefit scroungers and the economic migrants taking the piss while our own sleep on the streets. | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx.... Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance is not. Nothing illegal about living abroad. Perhaps he cannot bear one penny more than neccessary propping up benefit scroungers and the economic migrants taking the piss while our own sleep on the streets. " Still took 70 million of your money from the government though. | |||
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"Well he is right, too many people not born here who take the jobs and houses. It is about time we took our country back." Like zahawi and braverman? | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx.... Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance is not. Nothing illegal about living abroad. Perhaps he cannot bear one penny more than neccessary propping up benefit scroungers and the economic migrants taking the piss while our own sleep on the streets. Still took 70 million of your money from the government though." I am sure you would refuse to have an ISA on principle rather than avoid tax. This country needs more people like you. The dole bums love people like you. | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Wankers that don't want to help the country that made them millionaires do this. No wonder zahawi has joined reform as he avoided paying 5 million. Wierd as he is the son of immigrants that reform and this twat doesn't want in the UK. None millionaires also do this as it is the tax system , work out of the country for a set amount of days and you are tax exempt, no lope hole no aggressive avoidance just the tax law as it stands in Great Britain And just how does avoiding tax like this help the counyridx.... Tax evasion is illegal. Tax avoidance is not. Nothing illegal about living abroad. Perhaps he cannot bear one penny more than neccessary propping up benefit scroungers and the economic migrants taking the piss while our own sleep on the streets. Still took 70 million of your money from the government though. I am sure you would refuse to have an ISA on principle rather than avoid tax. This country needs more people like you. The dole bums love people like you." Why do you hate everyone? | |||
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"Accepting Sir Jim used inappropriate language that didn't help the point he was making… there’s clearly an issue in many parts of the UK that needs a grown up discussion, rather than labelling anyone who dares to raise the subject, even when they do use the correct language, as being far-right or racist. There should also be an acceptance that each person on here will be experiencing a different level of diversity / speed of change within their own town / community. These differences in experiences will drive different, feelings, thoughts, opinions and, ultimately politics. For example… using 2021 Census data, the average percentage of the population that is white is around 82%. This being the average… it compares to one of the most ethnically diverse areas in Britain with 48.6% white in Birmingham (down from 57.9% in 2011) or in St Helens in Merseyside, where it is consistently ranked as one of the least ethnically diverse local areas, with about 98% white. I expect these different experiences explains a number of the differences in opinion in here. Some areas see an issue, whereas others simply don’t… quite literally! Despite coming from St Helens and so obviously never having seen any of these brown people before, I said exactly the same thing about there needing to be a serious, adult discussion about the problems caused by immigration. I imagine living in Alcester, 98.2% white according to Wikipedia, you're the same and also experience the same issues with poverty, crime, drugs and anti-social behaviour as our fair town does, caused by those dastardly, err, immigrants. Certainly not the lovely white people" I did not mention crime, nor even alluded to it. And, for what it’s worth, Alcester actually has a crime rate below the national average. Further, I’m not sure (most) people are necessarily focused only on crime levels, especially given any number of socio-economic factors drive this. After all, there’s a host of changes that some are experiencing that need listening to and understanding… and respect. I.e. It can be as simple as feeling that one no longer ‘fits in’ in the area they’ve lived all their lives. And this will be real for some outside of St.Helens (or Alcester)… for example… Imagine how it must feel in Birmingham for a white person who is watching themselves become a minority in the last ten years (48.6% based on 2021 census data, vs 57.9% a decade earlier). Now, once again, I am not trying to link that with changes in crime etc, but if that is happening on a person’s street, then it’d be naive to think it is not causing feelings. Feelings that need to listened to, and not just brushed off or labelled; far right / racist by those of us not experiencing this change. | |||
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"What happens when the people claiming benefits exceeds the number of people paying taxes? Asking for a friend. He's thinking of switching sides. " The UK trend has been one way for the last 40 years. The first time a majority of households changed from being net tax contributors to a majority being net tax recipients occurred around the 2010–11 financial year, reaching as high as 53.4%. This was a significant and dramatic increase from the 43.8% in the 2000–01 financial year but something that our tight-lipped political class were too paralysed with fright to spell out to the country its long-term implications. The effect of the pandemic in the figures for 2020-21 obviously meant a steep dip in taxes collected and a massive increase in government expenditure, heavily distorting the underlying balance of tax payments. There has not been enough sensible analysis of what the real underlying status of net tax recipients is in the most recent period (COVID unwind still happening) but it is estimated that *at least* 60% of the country are now net recipients. The situation is unsustainable. The top 20% quintile are ultimately paying for everyone else. Out of any 10 random people in the country (including kids and pensioners etc) only 2 or 3 are contributing funds. High levels of immigration dependency only exacerbates the issue. No one wants to talk about this as the only real solutions will be so unpopular they’ll never get anyone elected. And politics and politicians are now so transitory that no one is interested in what things will be like in 20 years when they are well out of the picture. We are so buggered it’s unbelievable. | |||
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"Accepting Sir Jim used inappropriate language that didn't help the point he was making… there’s clearly an issue in many parts of the UK that needs a grown up discussion, rather than labelling anyone who dares to raise the subject, even when they do use the correct language, as being far-right or racist. There should also be an acceptance that each person on here will be experiencing a different level of diversity / speed of change within their own town / community. These differences in experiences will drive different, feelings, thoughts, opinions and, ultimately politics. For example… using 2021 Census data, the average percentage of the population that is white is around 82%. This being the average… it compares to one of the most ethnically diverse areas in Britain with 48.6% white in Birmingham (down from 57.9% in 2011) or in St Helens in Merseyside, where it is consistently ranked as one of the least ethnically diverse local areas, with about 98% white. I expect these different experiences explains a number of the differences in opinion in here. Some areas see an issue, whereas others simply don’t… quite literally! Despite coming from St Helens and so obviously never having seen any of these brown people before, I said exactly the same thing about there needing to be a serious, adult discussion about the problems caused by immigration. I imagine living in Alcester, 98.2% white according to Wikipedia, you're the same and also experience the same issues with poverty, crime, drugs and anti-social behaviour as our fair town does, caused by those dastardly, err, immigrants. Certainly not the lovely white people I did not mention crime, nor even alluded to it. And, for what it’s worth, Alcester actually has a crime rate below the national average. Further, I’m not sure (most) people are necessarily focused only on crime levels, especially given any number of socio-economic factors drive this. After all, there’s a host of changes that some are experiencing that need listening to and understanding… and respect. I.e. It can be as simple as feeling that one no longer ‘fits in’ in the area they’ve lived all their lives. And this will be real for some outside of St.Helens (or Alcester)… for example… Imagine how it must feel in Birmingham for a white person who is watching themselves become a minority in the last ten years (48.6% based on 2021 census data, vs 57.9% a decade earlier). Now, once again, I am not trying to link that with changes in crime etc, but if that is happening on a person’s street, then it’d be naive to think it is not causing feelings. Feelings that need to listened to, and not just brushed off or labelled; far right / racist by those of us not experiencing this change. " I agree with most of that but the far right-wing factions like Reform are heavily linking it to crime. And I totally understand what you are saying there, I've a friend in Halifax who is moving out because he's fed up of being woken by the call to prayers from his new next door neighbour every morning, and he's definitely not a racist. I know a guy on here who has moved from a certain part of Manchester because it is now almost exclusively Asian and no longer felt comfortable. But for the sensible discussion those people need to stop using inflammatory language like colonisation, invasion, hoards of attackers etc. Because that frankly is the language of racists | |||
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"He says what most of us all see and know. Those on the left will be screeming in their safe space calling for him to be cancelled." It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see that his statement is true and factual; although with this woke mindset that is prevalent at the moment, he will be severely lambasted for it and will probably have to issue a retraction and apology! Hopefully, attitudes and freedom of speech will be 'Reformed in the very near future! | |||
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"He says what most of us all see and know. Those on the left will be screeming in their safe space calling for him to be cancelled. It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see that his statement is true and factual; although with this woke mindset that is prevalent at the moment, he will be severely lambasted for it and will probably have to issue a retraction and apology! Hopefully, attitudes and freedom of speech will be 'Reformed in the very near future!" The hypocrisy here is amazing. Two people using lefty and woke as a mindset. Saying he will be cancelled, he can't be cancelled because we have free speech, he can however be disagreed with, because we have free speech. Were you ok with Lineker when he was actually cancelled and taken off much of the day for a few weeks? Was that somehow different? As far as Ratcliffes figures, he was a out 300% out on his figures according to some researchers. | |||
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"He says what most of us all see and know. Those on the left will be screeming in their safe space calling for him to be cancelled. It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see that his statement is true and factual; although with this woke mindset that is prevalent at the moment, he will be severely lambasted for it and will probably have to issue a retraction and apology! Hopefully, attitudes and freedom of speech will be 'Reformed in the very near future!" Except most of what he said is demonstrably untrue. You reform lot are complete loons, you'd swear day is night. Fact-checking Jim Ratcliffe's immigration and benefit claims - BBC News https://share.google/ZOwVV4yQQ63N3JyZf | |||
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"If you spend 6 months outside the uk you pay no taxes. He’s allowed to do this why not dodge tax smart guy plenty millionaires do this. Yeah, there's nothing more patriotic than tax avoidance, it's what makes the country great! It would only be spent improving the NHS and education so what's the point? Anybody paying taxes is nothing but a traitor!" Wake up loads of tax money is spent funding bs wars we seem to be involved in.If you don’t like tax avoidance contact mp’s or House of Lords to change the law.His tax avoidance is within the law so live with it.Very few people agree with every law we have but that’s life you to live with it. | |||
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"Radcliffe has no idea how to run a football club and a complete hypocrite. " Well, since he hired Carrick as a temporary manager to manage his team, they have won ten points from a possible twelve and remain unbeaten in five consecutive games. They sit fourth in the EPL and on current form could go on to win the league! That's pretty good going in my book! Are you absolutely sure you know what you are talking about? | |||
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"Radcliffe has no idea how to run a football club and a complete hypocrite. Well, since he hired Carrick as a temporary manager to manage his team, they have won ten points from a possible twelve and remain unbeaten in five consecutive games. They sit fourth in the EPL and on current form could go on to win the league! That's pretty good going in my book! Are you absolutely sure you know what you are talking about? "However, he had a fondness for Amorim. Simply observe the interview he conducted with the BBC. Any child could have proposed a better idea at the time of that interview. Carrick was not his preferred choice, and undoubtedly, had he been given the opportunity, he would have appointed another Mickey Mouse as a manager to drain Manchester United. Do not attribute any credit to him. | |||
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"The funny thing is most people know someone that works past retirement age which means they don’t pay NI Which makes them tax dodgers too is this ok or not?" You've clearly got NI mixed up with Income Tax - they're separate deductions. Lots of people work past retirement age for valid reasons, and it's unfair to call them tax dodgers. Contributions depend on earnings, not age! | |||
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