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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. " There any many stabbings in London. Unless she was openly targeted as a trans it is true that sadly it does happen. Anyone who has been stabbed could be told the same thing. You are seeing transphobia where there is no evidence of it. (Unless there is more to the story than you are saying) Was she saying the areas are no go because she is trans? (You don’t specify) If so then the transphobia is in those areas not in the media. If anything being told “these things happen” is actually treating her like anyone else and not because she is trans. It is possibly the opposite of transphobia. Comparing it to Stephen Lawrence is totally wrong. You are picking a high profile case to make an emotive comparison. There are many attacks on people of all colours and ethnicity and/or gender. | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. There any many stabbings in London. Unless she was openly targeted as a trans it is true that sadly it does happen. Anyone who has been stabbed could be told the same thing. You are seeing transphobia where there is no evidence of it. (Unless there is more to the story than you are saying) Was she saying the areas are no go because she is trans? (You don’t specify) If so then the transphobia is in those areas not in the media. If anything being told “these things happen” is actually treating her like anyone else and not because she is trans. It is possibly the opposite of transphobia. Comparing it to Stephen Lawrence is totally wrong. You are picking a high profile case to make an emotive comparison. There are many attacks on people of all colours and ethnicity and/or gender. " Agree  | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. " Yes I think he would. Black people should avoid racist areas, Trans people should avoid transphobic areas. That's not saying it's right, just that it's safer. | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. There any many stabbings in London. Unless she was openly targeted as a trans it is true that sadly it does happen. Anyone who has been stabbed could be told the same thing. You are seeing transphobia where there is no evidence of it. (Unless there is more to the story than you are saying) Was she saying the areas are no go because she is trans? (You don’t specify) If so then the transphobia is in those areas not in the media. If anything being told “these things happen” is actually treating her like anyone else and not because she is trans. It is possibly the opposite of transphobia. Comparing it to Stephen Lawrence is totally wrong. You are picking a high profile case to make an emotive comparison. There are many attacks on people of all colours and ethnicity and/or gender. " It's the anti-muslim dog whistle innit | |||
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"The Media is NOT transphobic at all!!! Im fact they play along with the stupidity, and have done for years" Very true  | |||
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"Lots of no go areas in London. I know it. We know it, mare khan and the chief of police know it. Its not victim blaming. Common sense to avoid" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. | |||
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"The Media is NOT transphobic at all!!! Im fact they play along with the stupidity, and have done for years" Well said beautiful x | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity." Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ | |||
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"The Media is NOT transphobic at all!!! Im fact they play along with the stupidity, and have done for years" Fuelling the hatred of the easily led masses for clicks & political gain may not be technically construed as transphobia but I’m finding it difficult to understand how a member of the trans community finds the RW media exempt of blame while their people are regularly being thrown under a bus/used as a political punchbag in the latest round of their attack on progressive culture | |||
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"Lots of no go areas in London. I know it. We know it, mare khan and the chief of police know it. Its not victim blaming. Common sense to avoid Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas." 😂 | |||
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"Lots of no go areas in London. I know it. We know it, mare khan and the chief of police know it. Its not victim blaming. Common sense to avoid Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas." 💯 | |||
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"The 'Media' isn't remotely transphobic ... Areas such as Tower Hamlets are transphobic. " The cognitive dissonance is real | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’" To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction. | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction." The fkn war rhetoric - jeeeesus fricken Christ 🤦♀️ | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction. The fkn war rhetoric - jeeeesus fricken Christ 🤦♀️ " Try walking up and down Tower Hamlets in your stilletoes and see how you get on.... | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction. The fkn war rhetoric - jeeeesus fricken Christ 🤦♀️ Try walking up and down Tower Hamlets in your stilletoes and see how you get on...." I don’t walk anywhere in stilettos. You’re the problem here. Not the entire population of Tower Hamlet’s who you’ve decided to throw under a bus to make your own political argument ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction. The fkn war rhetoric - jeeeesus fricken Christ 🤦♀️ Try walking up and down Tower Hamlets in your stilletoes and see how you get on.... I don’t walk anywhere in stilettos. You’re the problem here. Not the entire population of Tower Hamlet’s who you’ve decided to throw under a bus to make your own political argument ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ " No. See earlier post. You are in the 0.1% | |||
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" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 💯 " Obviously not Jewish then when marches were/are taking place? So many reports of “openly” Jewish men on their way to synagogue threatened with arrest and/or actually detained by the MET for antagonist behaviour, even in areas the marches had not even reached, that the MET had to issue two apologies. The second was required after the first branded Jews provocative. | |||
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"The Transwoman stated she’d been stabbed for being Trans. The fact Vine didn’t challenge his guest on this, and the minimal amount of challenging of Henry’s comment speaks volumes. Funnily enough, the only challenge to it I’ve seen is from the GB news lot, but they obviously put their own spin/agenda to it. " The caller to the Vine show,revealed a very uncomfortable truth. Bonsu's reaction to that truth was equally revealing in it's lack of understanding or sympathy. Vine was caught between a rock and a hard place there. To side with the transwoman who had been stabbed twice in London's more 'vibrantly diverse/Multi-cultural' areas, merely for being a transwoman in the 'wrong place' ... or with Henry Bonsu, a BBC commentator of Ghananian heritage, who put the transwoman's lived experience as merely an unfortunate consequence of "London being a big City & stabbings are bound to happen". Awkward  | |||
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"The Transwoman stated she’d been stabbed for being Trans. The fact Vine didn’t challenge his guest on this, and the minimal amount of challenging of Henry’s comment speaks volumes. Funnily enough, the only challenge to it I’ve seen is from the GB news lot, but they obviously put their own spin/agenda to it. The caller to the Vine show,revealed a very uncomfortable truth. Bonsu's reaction to that truth was equally revealing in it's lack of understanding or sympathy. Vine was caught between a rock and a hard place there. To side with the transwoman who had been stabbed twice in London's more 'vibrantly diverse/Multi-cultural' areas, merely for being a transwoman in the 'wrong place' ... or with Henry Bonsu, a BBC commentator of Ghananian heritage, who put the transwoman's lived experience as merely an unfortunate consequence of "London being a big City & stabbings are bound to happen". Awkward "I feel like you’re flailing around trying to make a point here but, honestly, whatever it is it’s entirely lost on me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | |||
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"The Transwoman stated she’d been stabbed for being Trans. The fact Vine didn’t challenge his guest on this, and the minimal amount of challenging of Henry’s comment speaks volumes. Funnily enough, the only challenge to it I’ve seen is from the GB news lot, but they obviously put their own spin/agenda to it. The caller to the Vine show,revealed a very uncomfortable truth. Bonsu's reaction to that truth was equally revealing in it's lack of understanding or sympathy. Vine was caught between a rock and a hard place there. To side with the transwoman who had been stabbed twice in London's more 'vibrantly diverse/Multi-cultural' areas, merely for being a transwoman in the 'wrong place' ... or with Henry Bonsu, a BBC commentator of Ghananian heritage, who put the transwoman's lived experience as merely an unfortunate consequence of "London being a big City & stabbings are bound to happen". Awkward
I feel like you’re flailing around trying to make a point here but, honestly, whatever it is it’s entirely lost on me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Your natural capacity to comprehend simple concepts, or lack thereof, certainly isn't the point. | |||
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"Your natural capacity to make coherent points is, shall we say, fading to be polite? " Take off the blinkers ... You'll see more clearly  | |||
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"Your natural capacity to make coherent points is, shall we say, fading to be polite? Take off the blinkers ... You'll see more clearly "Babes the second part is implied in the first part and, therefore, redundant/laboured/overkill | |||
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"Your natural capacity to make coherent points is, shall we say, fading to be polite? Take off the blinkers ... You'll see more clearly
Babes the second part is implied in the first part and, therefore, redundant/laboured/overkill"That's one way of not looking at it ... Whatever works for you darlin ... You do you | |||
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"Trans has become a major subject. Used to be something rarely mentioned other than occasionally in the more sleazy Sunday papers. There is prejudice like there is still prejudice against gay, people of different ethnicity etc. Not sure that the media is anti. Some trans people sadly don't help themselves by being militant and 'in yer face'. I knew a quite famous transwoman who lived in a small rural town. She was accepted and almost a local celebrity. Translation: ‘quieten down. Know your place’ To an extent yes. Be yourself. Get on with your life. If you stick your head above the parapet you must be ready for some bullets being fired in your direction. The fkn war rhetoric - jeeeesus fricken Christ 🤦♀️ " Someone clearly got out of bed the wrong side this morning. Better luck tomorrow.  | |||
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"Your natural capacity to make coherent points is, shall we say, fading to be polite? Take off the blinkers ... You'll see more clearly
Babes the second part is implied in the first part and, therefore, redundant/laboured/overkill
That's one way of not looking at it ... Whatever works for you darlin ... You do you"Totally agree but if nothing’s said in argument to the nonsense they spew them there’s just a lot of nonsense being spewed unchecked. It’s boring and makes me look like a dog with a bone but this is where we are 🙄 | |||
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"Lots of no go areas in London. I know it. We know it, mare khan and the chief of police know it. Its not victim blaming. Common sense to avoid Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 😂 " So you laugh but can't provide an answer. That tells us a lot. | |||
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" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 💯 Obviously not Jewish then when marches were/are taking place? So many reports of “openly” Jewish men on their way to synagogue threatened with arrest and/or actually detained by the MET for antagonist behaviour, even in areas the marches had not even reached, that the MET had to issue two apologies. The second was required after the first branded Jews provocative. " I live in Finchley which has the highest concentration of Iranian people in the UK. It's next door to Golders Green, a very Jewish area. I was sitting in the sauna at my gym this morning after my workout and swim. As usual some of my Jewish friends were there, as were some of my Iranian friends. They're friends with each other and just like most people in the area, get on with their lives in a peaceful and respectful way towards their neighbours. People like you take dramatic news stories and imagine them to be typical of life in a certain area, and you are wrong. | |||
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" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 😂 So you laugh but can't provide an answer. That tells us a lot." Are you specifically referring to no-go areas in London for just trans or that London doesn’t have any no-go areas at all for anybody? | |||
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" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 😂 So you laugh but can't provide an answer. That tells us a lot. Are you specifically referring to no-go areas in London for just trans or that London doesn’t have any no-go areas at all for anybody?" My reply has been clipped. Scroll up and you'll see I initially responded to: 'Lots of no go areas in London. I know it. We know it, mare khan and the chief of police know it. Its not victim blaming. Common sense to avoid.' | |||
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" Where exactly? I travel all over London and never have any problems, there are no no-go areas. 😂 So you laugh but can't provide an answer. That tells us a lot. Are you specifically referring to no-go areas in London for just trans or that London doesn’t have any no-go areas at all for anybody?" It doesn’t have any, get out more, diversify your news gathering and stop living in fear of fictional invaders that incentivised charlatans have told you about | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of .... Comparing it to Stephen Lawrence is totally wrong. You are picking a high profile case to make an emotive comparison. There are many attacks on people of all colours and ethnicity and/or gender. " That's exactly the point the previous poster is making . The woman who had been stabbed felt that parts of London were no go areas for trans people (rightly or wrongly), Had a high profile victim of a child stabbing said the same thing about being a black teenager in parts of London, They would not have received the same glib "your imagining the problem" dismissal. It's fashionable with certain parts of society to be intolerant of transgender people at the moment, and increasingly it's acceptable to dismiss gender dysphoria as indicative of mental illness, conflating very real problems with mental health provision, with a dismissal of "imagined 'woke' conditions". There are ding bats out there and what we see very often in mainstream media, is shrewd right wing opportunist creating confusion and click bait for ding bat followers so they can ridicule genuinely vulnerable people of the sort even Jeremy Kyle would screen out as not sufficiently competent to represent themselves. | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. " The concern about the high volume of knife crime in London is valid, and it's unfortunate that violence affects many people. If there's no evidence that the individual was targeted because of their trans status, it's possible the focus on transphobia might be misplaced. The media's response might be treating the situation like any other case of violence, rather than singling out the person's trans status. Comparisons to high-profile cases such as the Stephen Lawrence case need careful context, as they involve different circumstances. | |||
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"The Media is NOT transphobic at all!!! Im fact they play along with the stupidity, and have done for years Fuelling the hatred of the easily led masses for clicks & political gain may not be technically construed as transphobia but I’m finding it difficult to understand how a member of the trans community finds the RW media exempt of blame while their people are regularly being thrown under a bus/used as a political punchbag in the latest round of their attack on progressive culture " THIS!! | |||
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" People like you take dramatic news stories and imagine them to be typical of life in a certain area, and you are wrong." 9000, yes, 9000 cases of child exploitation were announced just a few short months ago to be reviewed* by by the MET. Now, I’ll bet my properties on it that the overwhelming majority of these alleged victims will be little white girls, you know the ones, who can safely walk all over London on their own or with friends at any time of day, in light or dark, to go to the sweet shop to buy some gummy bears. And the perpetrators? Hmmm It’s a very bold statement you make that London has no no-go areas before we find out the results of this review. * Why even the need for a review? Could it be that they were swept under the carpet in the first place? Political pressure? Laila Cunningham, former CPS senior lawyer based in London, knows a thing or two and is bound, for now, to not reveal due to possible legal prejudice. Ms Cunningham, a Muslim, is Reform’s mayoral candidate for London. Tantalisingly, she has said she will undertake a comprehensive investigation into Mayor Khan’s complete tenure. Make of that what you will. I bet Khan is bricking it, as are others. So, good on you for your couple of diverse friends who love their neighbours. The truth is coming. | |||
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"The Media is NOT transphobic at all!!! Im fact they play along with the stupidity, and have done for years Fuelling the hatred of the easily led masses for clicks & political gain may not be technically construed as transphobia but I’m finding it difficult to understand how a member of the trans community finds the RW media exempt of blame while their people are regularly being thrown under a bus/used as a political punchbag in the latest round of their attack on progressive culture THIS!!" 🫶❤️🫶👯♀️🫶✊🫶💅🫶 | |||
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" People like you take dramatic news stories and imagine them to be typical of life in a certain area, and you are wrong. 9000, yes, 9000 cases of child exploitation were announced just a few short months ago to be reviewed* by by the MET. Now, I’ll bet my properties on it that the overwhelming majority of these alleged victims will be little white girls, you know the ones, who can safely walk all over London on their own or with friends at any time of day, in light or dark, to go to the sweet shop to buy some gummy bears. And the perpetrators? Hmmm It’s a very bold statement you make that London has no no-go areas before we find out the results of this review. * Why even the need for a review? Could it be that they were swept under the carpet in the first place? Political pressure? Laila Cunningham, former CPS senior lawyer based in London, knows a thing or two and is bound, for now, to not reveal due to possible legal prejudice. Ms Cunningham, a Muslim, is Reform’s mayoral candidate for London. Tantalisingly, she has said she will undertake a comprehensive investigation into Mayor Khan’s complete tenure. Make of that what you will. I bet Khan is bricking it, as are others. So, good on you for your couple of diverse friends who love their neighbours. The truth is coming. No one’s scared of you, you just sound like a daft racist, sweetie 💋 " | |||
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"Progressive culture? Surely its just culture progressive or not. " I’m not explaining words to you, sweetie. Someone else should’ve done that previous to our exchange. | |||
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" No one’s scared of you, you just sound like a daft racist, sweetie 💋 " Hehe 😝 Haven’t you lot twigged yet that your overused abuse & insults are completely like water off a duck’s back because they are overused and false? Hmmm, bloke who thinks justice must prevail, = bad man, racist, bigot, thick etc etc 🥱 The real bad men? Now where do I leave the broom? You’re a joke love 🥰 | |||
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"Progressive culture? Surely its just culture progressive or not. I’m not explaining words to you, sweetie. Someone else should’ve done that previous to our exchange. " Please let me educate you. I dont know if this is possible but I can try if you are receptive ? | |||
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"Shall I correct your punctuation before you educate me or afterwards? " So you are the 0.1% Live in peace.. | |||
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"Shall I correct your punctuation before you educate me or afterwards? So you are the 0.1% Live in peace.. " I love that "the 0.1%" is anyone that disagrees with you | |||
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"Recently on Jeremy Vine a Transwoman who said she’s been stabbed twice and considers a certain part of London a no go area was bluntly told by Henry Bonsu it’s a big city, sadly that happens sometimes “. Would he say the same to Stephen Lawrence’s mother? I highly doubt it. This is shameful, open and blatant transphobia. Yes I think he would. Black people should avoid racist areas, Trans people should avoid transphobic areas. That's not saying it's right, just that it's safer." How on earth can anyone identify Transphobic and racist areas? Those with flags?? | |||
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" How on earth can anyone identify Transphobic and racist areas? Those with flags?? " By experience? Just a thought. | |||
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" How on earth can anyone identify Transphobic and racist areas? Those with flags?? By experience? Just a thought." What is your experience. Please share | |||
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