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"Who gives a flying....?!? Can we please have some forensic examination of what deals were made following meetings with this man? I don't really care who they had sex with it's pretty clear the sex was a sweetener for business deals and information. Can we focus on that rather than some royal trade envoy who was never lauded for being all that significant?!?" You should care who they had sex with, especially if the other person was trafficked or underage. It would seem in Andy's case, at least one of them was. | |||
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"Who gives a flying....?!? Can we please have some forensic examination of what deals were made following meetings with this man? I don't really care who they had sex with it's pretty clear the sex was a sweetener for business deals and information. Can we focus on that rather than some royal trade envoy who was never lauded for being all that significant?!?" I imagine the underage victims (of which there are potentially thousands) very much care about having those responsible brought to justice for sexual crimes, rather than trade deals. | |||
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"I’ve still not seen one definite report of an under age girl - at least by the laws of this country and most of the western world - that he had sex with 17 is over the age of consent in almost everywhere except Florida, where it is 18 I doubt if he even knew that. As as for Virginia Roberts she was paid £15000 dollars by Epstein for every time she had sex with Andrew Five times apparently Awful lot of money for a 17 year old Was she trafficked or did she jump at it ? " You obviously don't comprehend the laws of consent, age notwithstanding | |||
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"And we kinda forget that his brother Charlie was fucking Camilla for all those years when married to Di - they're not really a goodstanding family of the community " All royals have a long history of persistent fornication. Even Lizzy2 is rumoured to have had an affair with the stable manager resulting in Andrew. Maybe that's why the legit royals shun him. | |||
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"Simple solution. Stop paying for these inbred degenerates. All of them. " Hear, hear. That includes the "acceptable face" that is William and Kate. Just as complicit and detached as the rest, despite what their PR team tell you. | |||
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"Simple solution. Stop paying for these inbred degenerates. All of them. Hear, hear. That includes the "acceptable face" that is William and Kate. Just as complicit and detached as the rest, despite what their PR team tell you." Really? How complicit and detached? | |||
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"65000 dollars would produce a lot of consent from 17 year olds in this country I expect " But then it isn’t really consent is it? The rich, powerful, older man/men who groomed and trafficked you are giving you lots of money, all you have to do is…. | |||
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"65000 dollars would produce a lot of consent from 17 year olds in this country I expect " I have absolutely no doubt that this type of reasoning was used by both Epstein & Maxwell in their mitigation. Repulsive post. | |||
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"65000 dollars would produce a lot of consent from 17 year olds in this country I expect But then it isn’t really consent is it? The rich, powerful, older man/men who groomed and trafficked you are giving you lots of money, all you have to do is…." Isn’t it ? Prostitution has been around a long time Legal if no coercion is involved Payment doesn’t class as coercion. | |||
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"65000 dollars would produce a lot of consent from 17 year olds in this country I expect But then it isn’t really consent is it? The rich, powerful, older man/men who groomed and trafficked you are giving you lots of money, all you have to do is…. Isn’t it ? Prostitution has been around a long time Legal if no coercion is involved Payment doesn’t class as coercion. " What is it about vulnerable, trafficked teenagers being paid for by rich, powerful, old men that may just shift the dynamic of consent that isn’t clear ? To label these women as pr0stituted is mind blowing for me, perhaps it’s my understanding thats off here, but if the women were trafficked, taken to another country, or ohhh I don’t know a private island with no means of escape, or no one to run to if you did, or nowhere to go, and then these powerful men make offers, it is hardly an equal consensual situation is it. I suspect that the potential of some violence may have (even if only I the women’s minds) somewhat influenced any decision making. | |||
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"65000 dollars would produce a lot of consent from 17 year olds in this country I expect But then it isn’t really consent is it? The rich, powerful, older man/men who groomed and trafficked you are giving you lots of money, all you have to do is…. Isn’t it ? Prostitution has been around a long time Legal if no coercion is involved Payment doesn’t class as coercion. " How dare you link sex trafficked victims to pros when you cannot possibly have any evidence! The American courts have already convicted Epstein & Maxwell of being sex traffickers. Why didn’t they give you a call to advocate their defence. Repugnant. | |||
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