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I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum . | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum ."So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial. "That's unnecessarily judgemental. We all have different things going on in our lives so let's not moralise over how other people deal with their own issues. Don't forget there are people out there who think being gay is immoral 😱! | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
That's unnecessarily judgemental. We all have different things going on in our lives so let's not moralise over how other people deal with their own issues. Don't forget there are people out there who think being gay is immoral 😱!"👏 👏 👏 this is probably the last place for anyone to be casting judgement on others morals. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
That's unnecessarily judgemental. We all have different things going on in our lives so let's not moralise over how other people deal with their own issues. Don't forget there are people out there who think being gay is immoral 😱!"It's not unnecessarily judgemental. I understand that various circumstances may push a man to be unfaithful, but regardless of the reasons, the actions are his choice, to be unfaithful. Anyone knowingly facilitating those actions has to take a portion of the responsibility also. Whether they give two hoots about it or not, is obviously down to them, but all actions which can be seen by others, are subject to judgement by others. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
That's unnecessarily judgemental. We all have different things going on in our lives so let's not moralise over how other people deal with their own issues. Don't forget there are people out there who think being gay is immoral 😱!
It's not unnecessarily judgemental. I understand that various circumstances may push a man to be unfaithful, but regardless of the reasons, the actions are his choice, to be unfaithful. Anyone knowingly facilitating those actions has to take a portion of the responsibility also. Whether they give two hoots about it or not, is obviously down to them, but all actions which can be seen by others, are subject to judgement by others. "Judge away. It does make me wonder how on earth you police your own moral stance. You say "no married men" on your profile, but what about those non-married men who are having sex with married men, which is almost everyone here? What about married men in open relationships? Surely what other people do is nobodys business but their own, so judging without knowing the circumstances, is in fact being judgemental because you've applied a moral position you cant possibly know. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
That's unnecessarily judgemental. We all have different things going on in our lives so let's not moralise over how other people deal with their own issues. Don't forget there are people out there who think being gay is immoral 😱!
It's not unnecessarily judgemental. I understand that various circumstances may push a man to be unfaithful, but regardless of the reasons, the actions are his choice, to be unfaithful. Anyone knowingly facilitating those actions has to take a portion of the responsibility also. Whether they give two hoots about it or not, is obviously down to them, but all actions which can be seen by others, are subject to judgement by others.
Judge away. It does make me wonder how on earth you police your own moral stance. You say "no married men" on your profile, but what about those non-married men who are having sex with married men, which is almost everyone here? What about married men in open relationships? Surely what other people do is nobodys business but their own, so judging without knowing the circumstances, is in fact being judgemental because you've applied a moral position you cant possibly know."Let's sum it up with: if you have consent to have sex with other men = okay, else = not okay. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum ."Genuine question: What difference is there between a married man, and those who aren't? | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial. "I'll bet you've had sex with loads of married guys. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
I'll bet you've had sex with loads of married guys."Not knowingly, but I have knowingly not had sex with married guys. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum ."Yes please | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
I'll bet you've had sex with loads of married guys.
Not knowingly, but I have knowingly not had sex with married guys."Genuine question here for you. Would you have sex with a guy that wasn’t married but was in a long term relationship? Does that piece of paper really make much difference? | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial. "Look out! We've got an undercover agent from mumsnet. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
I'll bet you've had sex with loads of married guys.
Not knowingly, but I have knowingly not had sex with married guys.
Genuine question here for you. Would you have sex with a guy that wasn’t married but was in a long term relationship? Does that piece of paper really make much difference?"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it." When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? " 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? " That's fine for you and your husband, presumably you had an arrangement for seeing other people, great, not an issue. I can keep my own morals to myself, but I choose not to in this case, which is also not an issue. And I'm not saying others should share my view, but they could, and they would be better for it. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. " No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. " They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows." Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. " Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. | |||
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"I have decided that since I have a massive kink for married men so over the whole of 2026 I am going to please as many married men as possible. EVERY meet is going to be 100% discreet there are far too many married men not getting any action and I'm going to help them unload without the fear of getting caught loose lipe sink ships so mines will be tightly sealed round your cock .
I so far have only sucked the cocks of 2 married men this year but hopefully more to cum .
So enabling or facilitating infidelity is okay on your moral compass? Clearly. Just because a married man is okay with cheating, it doesn't mean you have to help him do that. You could say no, and help him understand the error of his ways instead. Far more beneficial.
I'll bet you've had sex with loads of married guys.
Not knowingly, but I have knowingly not had sex with married guys."So there's probably a fair few that you didn't know about, not that it's your fault unless you've asked them and they've lied. As we've seen from other answers, many do seem to get off on the fact that they've got up to various things with married guys or 'straight' men. I've had a few who've asked my marital status, sometimes even when cruising but I always tell them that it's not a matter I would wish to talk about. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. " You are completely wrong. | |||
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"Married (bottom) man here, missus fully aware & supportive." Wifey “Morning love, bacon & eggs another couple of minutes, you get battered up the shitter last night?” Hubby “Yes love, proper took a pounding up the old Gary.” Wifey “Lovely, garden centre or weekly Tesco shop today?” Hubby “Could do both but would like to fit in a spit roast & dp whilst slack as fuck if possible.” Wifey “Ok love, beef or lamb for Sunday?” Hubby “Lamb? Late lunch Sunday darling, sucking loads of big fat cocks up until about 1pm, ok?” Wifey “Ok love, ohhh, there’s the postie, fuck off for an hour whilst he licks my snatch & I piss down his throat.” Hiubby “Bacon’s burning sweetheart!!” | |||
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" No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. You are completely wrong. " How is he? He has his opinion just as you have. Why is this chap wrong on this but you are right? You can’t just call somebody is wrong without qualifying that. | |||
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" Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. It’s fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us." Bollocks. Monogamy is inherent even to the most primitive of brain of many animals, famously swans who generally mate & breed for life. Monogamy is not subjective at all, it’s a word used to describe a singular behaviour. | |||
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" No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. You are completely wrong. How is he? He has his opinion just as you have. Why is this chap wrong on this but you are right? You can’t just call somebody is wrong without qualifying that." Yes I can. | |||
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" Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. It’s fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Bollocks. Monogamy is inherent even to the most primitive of brain of many animals, famously swans who generally mate & breed for life. Monogamy is not subjective at all, it’s a word used to describe a singular behaviour." Your rationale is swans? Really? I think you'll find that swans havent a fucking clue about monogamy, and nature has led them to mate for life as a means to better defend territory and so promote chick survival. If nature had intended humans to be monogamous it did a terrible job of it, and nature doesn't make mistakes. | |||
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" How is he? He has his opinion just as you have. Why is this chap wrong on this but you are right? You can’t just call somebody is wrong without qualifying that. Yes I can. " Oh right! “I’m right because I say I’m right” For fucks sakes | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us." Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. You are completely wrong. " Tell me how please. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. " I did not say choosing to be unfaithful is in anyone's nature, what i did say is monogamy is not natural. The two things are not the same. If you've chosen to remain sexually reliant on one person that is a choice, and choices are made with feelings, and feelings are real and can change. The problem is, the contract of monogamy doesn't allow any change. It is a standard very, very few can ever hope to meet. Setting yourself up for failure is indeed utter nonsense. The most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. Cringeworthy even. Happy for those who think they can buck the trend though. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. I did not say choosing to be unfaithful is in anyone's nature, what i did say is monogamy is not natural. The two things are not the same. If you've chosen to remain sexually reliant on one person that is a choice, and choices are made with feelings, and feelings are real and can change. The problem is, the contract of monogamy doesn't allow any change. It is a standard very, very few can ever hope to meet. Setting yourself up for failure is indeed utter nonsense. The most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. Cringeworthy even. Happy for those who think they can buck the trend though." It's a shame for you that you feel that way. There is a clear right and wrong, and that distinction is not hard to make. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. I did not say choosing to be unfaithful is in anyone's nature, what i did say is monogamy is not natural. The two things are not the same. If you've chosen to remain sexually reliant on one person that is a choice, and choices are made with feelings, and feelings are real and can change. The problem is, the contract of monogamy doesn't allow any change. It is a standard very, very few can ever hope to meet. Setting yourself up for failure is indeed utter nonsense. The most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. Cringeworthy even. Happy for those who think they can buck the trend though." It's a shame for you that you feel that way. There is a clear right and wrong, and that distinction is not hard to make. | |||
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" Are you a swan needing to pair up to defend territory?" What kind of retort is that? Lame as fuck. Go away | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. I did not say choosing to be unfaithful is in anyone's nature, what i did say is monogamy is not natural. The two things are not the same. If you've chosen to remain sexually reliant on one person that is a choice, and choices are made with feelings, and feelings are real and can change. The problem is, the contract of monogamy doesn't allow any change. It is a standard very, very few can ever hope to meet. Setting yourself up for failure is indeed utter nonsense. The most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. Cringeworthy even. Happy for those who think they can buck the trend though. It's a shame for you that you feel that way. There is a clear right and wrong, and that distinction is not hard to make. " 😆 no, it's not a shame for me at all. I, and my husband, have a sex life and a relationship free from shame, free from obligation, and free from restriction. Other folks might choose different to stay within the absurd convention of thier choosing. | |||
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"It's not the paper, but yes, if you love someone, commit to them, promise to be faithful, or engage in a relationship with the assumption of fidelity, respect and trust, what kind of person breaks those vows (for want of a better word). It's not always easy to be a decent person, but it's well worth it. When I married my husband we did not promise to forsake all others. They are not the current vows. You can keep your own morals without policing others. Do you think every time you state others should share your view, they change theirs? 👏 👏 👏 monogamy is utter nonsense. People agree to it like robots knowing full well if opportunity arises, they won't be monogamous. No it's not and no they don't. People make choices, they can choose to be faithful or choose to be unfaithful. Either way they are responsible for themselves. They'll nearly all choose opportunity. If monogamy (which is nothing to do with faithful btw) were so easy, everyone would be doing it but as we all know, few are. If its what you want, great, but your morals dont trump anyone else's, and your morals cant be imposed on anyone either, even a partner. People will always do what is right for them in the moment, partner or no patrner, vows or no vows. Ah, but what is 'right' in the moment is just a person's desire, what they want at that very instant, and it's difficult to resist that, I ahree. But desire is fleeting and they're not my morals, they're a fundamental right and wrong. Your right and wrong are someone elses nonsense. What's right for you may be different for someone else. People make vows of commitment in a moment when they desire that, or more likley, think thats what is expected of them. Monogamy is a subjective concept as it means different things to different people. Monogamy isn't a fundamental right or wrong. Its fundamentally flawed though, and it's why so few do it. Desire is what it is, and never right nor wrong. Monogamy is nonsense and against what nature intended for us. Ah, there's the problem, desire itself is not right or wrong, it's just a feeling, but choosing to act on it is where we go wrong. Monogamy is not nonsense if you choose to enter into it and choose to uphold what you've committed to, nature has nothing to do with it. Saying it's in my nature to be unfaithful is just a way of shifting the responsibility away from yourself for your own actions. This is where the phrase "man up" used to be useful, take some responsibility for yourself and what you choose to do. I did not say choosing to be unfaithful is in anyone's nature, what i did say is monogamy is not natural. The two things are not the same. If you've chosen to remain sexually reliant on one person that is a choice, and choices are made with feelings, and feelings are real and can change. The problem is, the contract of monogamy doesn't allow any change. It is a standard very, very few can ever hope to meet. Setting yourself up for failure is indeed utter nonsense. The most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. Cringeworthy even. Happy for those who think they can buck the trend though. It's a shame for you that you feel that way. There is a clear right and wrong, and that distinction is not hard to make. 😆 no, it's not a shame for me at all. I, and my husband, have a sex life and a relationship free from shame, free from obligation, and free from restriction. Other folks might choose different to stay within the absurd convention of thier choosing." And that's great for you both, honestly. | |||
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" andThe most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. t." What the hell you blabbering on about??? A “thruple,” ie in English “throuple,” is not monogamous by very definition! What a hapless contribution.🤣🤣 | |||
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" andThe most committed and faithful couples (and one thruple) I know are open and monogamy doesn't feature in thier relationships. I'm in one of those relationships, for 20+ years. The idea of monogamy is laughable. t. What the hell you blabbering on about??? A “thruple,” ie in English “throuple,” is not monogamous by very definition! What a hapless contribution.🤣🤣" You dont seem to be keeping on track with the conversation here. I'm not the one endorsing or defending monogamy. And for info, a throuple can indeed be the equivalent of a monogamous relationship if they choose that. My friends aren't, but they could be. | |||
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" There is no "wrong-doing" (what an odd expression to frame common behaviour endemic on this website), You really do sound like you should be preaching your morals from a high alter in a decrepit church. What other people do is none of your business." Again, what an idiotic post. The poster has mentioned monogamy, he’s not discussing polygamy or dissing members! You’re just shoehorning in that for your own ends. This is a discussion about a subject and sometimes there are dissenting views. Of course everybody has a view as essentially it’s one of morality. There are quite clearly members who couldn’t give a shit but there are others who do. I actually think it more a question of inadequacy. The gay man going with a married man, possibly with kids, won’t ever naturally ever have that so they feel superior because they believe they have control over that married man because they had a brief lust for them. Truth is, they were used, simple as that, and won’t recognise or accept it. Look at the state of them for a start!!!🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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" There is no "wrong-doing" (what an odd expression to frame common behaviour endemic on this website), You really do sound like you should be preaching your morals from a high alter in a decrepit church. What other people do is none of your business. Again, what an idiotic post. The poster has mentioned monogamy, he’s not discussing polygamy or dissing members! You’re just shoehorning in that for your own ends. This is a discussion about a subject and sometimes there are dissenting views. Of course everybody has a view as essentially it’s one of morality. There are quite clearly members who couldn’t give a shit but there are others who do. I actually think it more a question of inadequacy. The gay man going with a married man, possibly with kids, won’t ever naturally ever have that so they feel superior because they believe they have control over that married man because they had a brief lust for them. Truth is, they were used, simple as that, and won’t recognise or accept it. Look at the state of them for a start!!!🤣🤣🤣" Nobody has mentioned polygamy so I dont know where that came from. Nothing has been shoehorned, it's been a backwards and forwards discussion between 2 people with opposing views, with you chipping in some thoughts of your own, which include me being an idiot and a "spaz". You haven't actually contributed anything meaningful to the conversation and I shall simply assume you were bored and needed something to do with your fingers. Whether someone cheats on their partner, be it in a monogamous relationship or an open relationship, is fuck all to do with person they cheat with. It is nobody's responsibility to avoid people who may be tempted to cheat, as it's been suggested it those people who are morally wrong. Most people here couldn't give a flying fuck about the relationship status or moral state of the person they're going to have sex with, and there is zero reason they should. They're here to have sex - not to question the other person's lifestyle, not to split up a marriage and not to debate morals of what they are about to do. Given opportunity and circumstances the vast majority of people of both sexes will stray from monogamy. This website is kinda case in point there. But as you're talking about shoehorning, maybe the conversation can go on to the "state" of some gay men who are having sex with married people as a power play because they will never have what the married person has got, but in reality they dont realise that theyve just been used as a hole for a married mans cock. Your words, not mine. You do chat some utter bollocks pal. Start that as a topic and see how you get on. | |||
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