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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? " All of the above. Im queer because i like men in male mode. Not against guys who dress, each to their own. | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? " Lingerie is made exclusively for the beauty of the female "human with a vagina not a man who has bollocks" so for that reason a man will always look daft wearing clothing that's not for them. | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? Lingerie is made exclusively for the beauty of the female "human with a vagina not a man who has bollocks" so for that reason a man will always look daft wearing clothing that's not for them. " Well I disagree with that tbh, and I think quite a few other will to. But everyone to their opinion | |||
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"I only like petite TV/TS that are very convincing, I don't object to anyone who cross-dresses or is TV/TS/whatever, just it's not attractive for me" Ahem...  | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? Lingerie is made exclusively for the beauty of the female "human with a vagina not a man who has bollocks" so for that reason a man will always look daft wearing clothing that's not for them. " Interesting fact. You have never seen a picture of Henry VIII where he wasn’t wearing tights. Then again some people considered him a bit of a cu#t | |||
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"Lingerie is made exclusively for the beauty of the female "human with a vagina not a man who has bollocks" so for that reason a man will always look daft wearing clothing that's not for them. " While it's certainly aimed at the female market, whether that be just to attract and arouse straight men, or to empower women themselves by feeling sexy and hot for their own reasons, I don't buy into the idea it's "just for women". Personally I find most conventional high street male underwear stupidly boring and revel in the fabrics and cuts of those items designed to look and feel sensuous for women. Lace, satin, sheer mesh; even PVC/leather which does have a following in the hardcore male gay fetish scene. | |||
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"See, in some ways I find the motives of the guys who like convincing, petite dressers more suspect than those who find it a complete turnoff. I don't have a problem with those for whom it's a turnoff because they're being honest about their likes and dislikes (albeit more bluntly than is comfortable sometimes). But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there?" My take is that in the vast majority of cases it is Bi men that are attracted to TV/CD’s. Most gay men want a man that looks like a man (yes there may be son who don’t care but I did say most not all). | |||
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"But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there?" I’m wondering if these are the people who profess that they are “straight”, but they like cock. It could be that if they go with TV’s as it makes it easier to lie to themselves because to them they see it as a woman with a cock. | |||
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"Men wearing women’s underwear grosses me out, and it’s been elevated more by the pics that get posted up on this site. " lay off the carbs 👍🏼👍🏼 | |||
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"See, in some ways I find the motives of the guys who like convincing, petite dressers more suspect than those who find it a complete turnoff. I don't have a problem with those for whom it's a turnoff because they're being honest about their likes and dislikes (albeit more bluntly than is comfortable sometimes). But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there? My take is that in the vast majority of cases it is Bi men that are attracted to TV/CD’s. Most gay men want a man that looks like a man (yes there may be son who don’t care but I did say most not all)." your take is irrelevant 😂 | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? " ALL OF THE ABOVE!! | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? " no problems havin a chat X | |||
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"We all like what we like .... No explanations are necessary. " Simply put and the most sensible and adult opinion so far | |||
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"See, in some ways I find the motives of the guys who like convincing, petite dressers more suspect than those who find it a complete turnoff. I don't have a problem with those for whom it's a turnoff because they're being honest about their likes and dislikes (albeit more bluntly than is comfortable sometimes). But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there? My take is that in the vast majority of cases it is Bi men that are attracted to TV/CD’s. Most gay men want a man that looks like a man (yes there may be son who don’t care but I did say most not all). your take is irrelevant 😂" In which case so is yours | |||
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"The world would be a boring place if we were all the same "  Exactly | |||
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"IMO, body hair, especially hairy legs under tights etc. If people like TV/TS, it's because of their femininity. Not shaving their body will almost certainly ensure that virtually no one finds them attractive." That doesn't answer the OPs question of why do some guys not go for TV/TS. Some guys clearly do go for hairy TV/TS or there would be none, but there are loads on here, making your statement false. Some dont try to look feminine, yet get plenty of attention. Your statement is a just your opinion about those people who dress, which is a different topic entirely. | |||
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"But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there? I’m wondering if these are the people who profess that they are “straight”, but they like cock. It could be that if they go with TV’s as it makes it easier to lie to themselves because to them they see it as a woman with a cock. " I know that a number of guys on here just love to believe that any man who touches a cock is secretly full on gay and thereafter living a life of denial, but just maybe, they’re actually not lying to themselves but simply indulging in something a bit kinky that excites them, and no more to it than that. Couldn’t possibly be true could it ? | |||
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"But the guys who seem to want a facsimile of a woman, maybe just with a male sex drive, that doesn't sit well with me. What do you do when this fantasy being confronts you with an erect cock? Still convince yourself you're not gay or at least most of the way there? I’m wondering if these are the people who profess that they are “straight”, but they like cock. It could be that if they go with TV’s as it makes it easier to lie to themselves because to them they see it as a woman with a cock. I know that a number of guys on here just love to believe that any man who touches a cock is secretly full on gay and thereafter living a life of denial, but just maybe, they’re actually not lying to themselves but simply indulging in something a bit kinky that excites them, and no more to it than that. Couldn’t possibly be true could it ? " I don't think I've seen that. Nobody here is going to deny bi people exist or insist that interest in cock = gay. Its certainly true that some people clearly do dress up because it is a fetish, and some people do it because it is how they identify. Its also true that plenty are turned off by it. | |||
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"As a gay man I am not attracted to women so why why would I be attracted to men dressing up like them ffs!" That's fine hun take a chill, no one is saying you can't be attracted to men. Have a lollypop 🍭🍭 | |||
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"I think if the most fabbed page is anything to go by, then its a 50 50 split. On amy given day around a half of rhe most fabbed content is cd or trans" But that could be down to the mix of the people using the site now. There are far more Bi’s now and a lot less gays than when I first joined, and the majority of the TV/CD’s are Bi and they are the ones more likely to fab them. | |||
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"As a gay man I am not attracted to women so why why would I be attracted to men dressing up like them ffs! That's fine hun take a chill, no one is saying you can't be attracted to men. Have a lollypop 🍭🍭"  | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? " All of that. I am attracted to men. The more masculine the better. Always have been even before I realised that attraction was sexual. Any hint of female clothing on a man is an instant turn-off. Effeminate men just don't do it for me whether dressed or not. I did go through a very unsuccessful phase in my 20s of trying to 'cure' myself but even then it was trying to force myself to be attracted to real women, not men dressed as women. I failed. I would say that the vast majority of crossdressers/transvestites and their admirers are bisexual rather than homosexual/gay. TS transsexualism is a different matter. These are men who genuinely think they were born in the wrong body and will go to any lengths, often involving surgery, hormone therapy and vast amounts of money, to 'right nature's wrong'. I respect that but obviously don't fancy them as they are now 'women'. If 6', 16st Brian wants to dress up in women's clothing in his spare time, call himself Brenda and get fucked by other men even though he has a wife and kids at home, then good luck to him. But he won't appeal to me. | |||
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"Which is a restrictive term anyway but it's the only one we have on here, so at risk of igniting a few flames here we go: Is it the clothes themselves that you object to, or the way that many (not all) crossdressers/transvestites/whatever assume a mantle of femininity, act gurly and want to be addressed as women? All of that. I am attracted to men. The more masculine the better. Always have been even before I realised that attraction was sexual. Any hint of female clothing on a man is an instant turn-off. Effeminate men just don't do it for me whether dressed or not. I did go through a very unsuccessful phase in my 20s of trying to 'cure' myself but even then it was trying to force myself to be attracted to real women, not men dressed as women. I failed. I would say that the vast majority of crossdressers/transvestites and their admirers are bisexual rather than homosexual/gay. TS transsexualism is a different matter. These are men who genuinely think they were born in the wrong body and will go to any lengths, often involving surgery, hormone therapy and vast amounts of money, to 'right nature's wrong'. I respect that but obviously don't fancy them as they are now 'women'. If 6', 16st Brian wants to dress up in women's clothing in his spare time, call himself Brenda and get fucked by other men even though he has a wife and kids at home, then good luck to him. But he won't appeal to me." I agree with everything except, whatever they do to themselves dress up, get surgery and or pop female hormones they are still Men!! Biologically! But each to their own as far as I’m concerned. But don’t expect the rest of society to change the way they live or remove hard fought for rights from others just so you can be your genuine self! And definitely don’t educate children to think that men can have babies or that pronouns are necessary in a school environment! Rant over! | |||
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"There is a lot of talk of guys wearing to look and feel feminine however there is a few like myself who wear purely for the look and feel and would like to think we still look masculine in what we do wear . I’m a massive believer in if you like it then all good if no one else does so be it and I’m just going to have to be a tights wanker lol " Cheers, you've encapsulated how I feel too. Nothing about me is feminine other than my preference in underwear. I don't desire to be or act fem or camp, don't talk that way, am one of the lads in a very masculine workspace (although I don't play along with homophobic banter and try to put a reasonable ally slant on it), and I don't refer to myself in fem terms at all and disregard people who assume I want that. I've never been in any doubt from my first meet that even if it's two guys in pretty lingerie, it's still 100% gay, man-on-man sex. | |||
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