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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately." You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way  | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait " That I am glad about. Things are escalating so quick for my liking. Not scared of dying so long as it's quick and I don't know it's coming lol! | |||
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"Did he pledge more money to protect mosques from those frequent right wing attacks!! " He did mention about different communities coming together in support for each other.
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"Did he pledge more money to protect mosques from those frequent right wing attacks!! " A mosque caught fire in Peacehaven and Liebour gave them 10 million 😂! Couldn't make it up. Isn't that what insurance is for? Should turn it around on them to make sure they had everything in place, fire risk assessment etc. | |||
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"Did he pledge more money to protect mosques from those frequent right wing attacks!! A mosque caught fire in Peacehaven and Liebour gave them 10 million 😂! Couldn't make it up. Isn't that what insurance is for? Should turn it around on them to make sure they had everything in place, fire risk assessment etc." It must be so much fun to just completely get the wrong end of the stick.... The mosque in Peacehaven was burn down by two arsonists. The government has set aside money for the security of places of worship. | |||
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"There is some amount of misinformation, deliberate misinterpretation and downright lies on here Obviously preferring comforting lies over uncomfortable truths" I mean this forum had people calling for migrants to be murdered by the state yesterday. It's just a nutters paradise | |||
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"Is he going to announce he has found another rent boy? Sshh don't tell the wife 😂" He prefers Ukrainian boys to Iranian boys | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait " Could be the yanks trying to stir things up. Wouldn't put it past Trump | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way "the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer "Yeah. But they are between his ears. | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer "I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! " President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait " It was fired by Hezbolah from Lebanon, one of the satellite terrorist organisations aligned with Iran  | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer
I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! "We are definitely not safe under Starmer or his useless government, weaker yes and wide open to internal threats | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately." Totally agree, sounded fake. Funnily enough driving home listening to radio 5 about a guy who resigned from the foreign office. He was saying the opposite with this government, that it's not about looking after the interests of the UK but about internal navel gazing. He also made a point about the chagos Islands, that the pm was hiding under legal obligations against the UK when they were not legal but just recommendations. In short we are being lied too. The pm is totally out of his depth and every time he gives us a speech, it's hollow and embarrassing. | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer
I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files !
We are definitely not safe under Starmer or his useless government, weaker yes and wide open to internal threats "How so? Its the security services that deal with such threats every single day. Do you think that having our planes actually bombing Iranian targets will make us safer? | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. " Hilarious! It seems the democats called for the release of the files, so trump did to get elected and then has kept putting it off saying theres nothing to see, they were on the desk of one of his secretaries of state, then they weren't there. Then they eventually get released with loads of names redacted. Trump is just a liar. | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Hilarious! It seems the democats called for the release of the files, so trump did to get elected and then has kept putting it off saying theres nothing to see, they were on the desk of one of his secretaries of state, then they weren't there. Then they eventually get released with loads of names redacted. Trump is just a liar." He said he'd release the files .... and they were released. You are just bitterly disappointed that their contents didn't contain the silver bullet that would bring him down 
Them's the breaks.
Never count chickens before they have hatched .... Or put all your pre-hatched eggs in one poorly constructed basket.
One man who deeply wishes that the Epstein files had not been released ... and then looked into, is our own great but somewhat indecisive leader .... Starmer has ended up with some serious egg on his lying face, hasn't he.
Shame that.
His boss in Beijing won't be best pleased either.
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defencive." With what? I spose we could use some of those catapults the police have recently confiscated! | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Hilarious! It seems the democats called for the release of the files, so trump did to get elected and then has kept putting it off saying theres nothing to see, they were on the desk of one of his secretaries of state, then they weren't there. Then they eventually get released with loads of names redacted. Trump is just a liar. He said he'd release the files .... and they were released. You are just bitterly disappointed that their contents didn't contain the silver bullet that would bring him down
Them's the breaks.
Never count chickens before they have hatched .... Or put all your pre-hatched eggs in one poorly constructed basket.
One man who deeply wishes that the Epstein files had not been released ... and then looked into, is our own great but somewhat indecisive leader .... Starmer has ended up with some serious egg on his lying face, hasn't he.
Shame that.
His boss in Beijing won't be best pleased either.
I really don't care if he's in the files, he made sure they weren't released until they had redacted huge amounts.
I assume your mentioning starmer because of mandleson, who even farage thought was a great match for the roll he was given.
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. " Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. " America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran. | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran." In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran." ... .. Weak is the perpetuation of porkies about Starmers private life. It's embarrassing and ironic bearing in mind the fact you voted Labour and were vociferous in your support. | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran. In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. " What utter nonsense. Is this an attack or protection ? Defending for the security of the world? Do you genuinely believe that Europe would remain safe with the presence of ayatollahs? If so, please clarify your reasoning. However, I am uncertain how you would address the fact that they are currently attacking Oman, Bahrain, Turkey, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Kuwait. This is a regime that has murdered 40,000 of its own citizens and adheres to an ideology that advocates for the destruction of Western nations, including Israel and the USA, while chanting 'down with the UK' for 47 years. Do you think Starmer is justified in remaining silent during this perilous time in the world? | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran. In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. What utter nonsense. Is this an attack or protection ? Defending for the security of the world? Do you genuinely believe that Europe would remain safe with the presence of ayatollahs? If so, please clarify your reasoning. However, I am uncertain how you would address the fact that they are currently attacking Oman, Bahrain, Turkey, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Kuwait. This is a regime that has murdered 40,000 of its own citizens and adheres to an ideology that advocates for the destruction of Western nations, including Israel and the USA, while chanting 'down with the UK' for 47 years. Do you think Starmer is justified in remaining silent during this perilous time in the world?" I so agree with you. | |||
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" In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. " Where have you been for the past 47 years of Iranian belligerence? This has been coming for decades and the increasing threat this dangerous regime poses to the world has finally been met with a President who takes no shit. Happy with the atrocious slaughter of 40k plus people are you? Let alone the undoubted hundreds of thousands or even millions before them. The ayatollah simply pushed the wrong man this time. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy?" Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran. In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. " He is freeing Iranians from an oppressive regime. Haven't you seen all the Iranians celebrating? The only ones moaning are the pink haired, pronoun confused, jobless and homegrown wokes we have here unfortunately. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . " What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war | |||
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defensive." Hopefully calling for a general election as he is stepping down  | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. " Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? | |||
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"I'd rather be safe under Starmer than have a threat looming over our heads under the orange loaf that talks a lot of nonsense whilst trying to steer the news away from his involvement in the epstein files ! President Donald Trump signed a bill in November 2025 that ordered the release of government files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Something that was staunchly resisted during the previous Biden administration. The TDS mob really do seem to also suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome .... Must be a link between the two afflictions. Ordered the release safe in the knowledge his hand picked heads of department would hold back untill everything injurious had been redacted. They missed the release deadline, by two months and still haven't release millions of related messages and documents. But of course macho trump isn't to blame he has his loyalists I'm post to take the blame for him. Starmer made the right decision and said no. He should have said no to the defensive strikes as well. When we fought in Falklands did America make resupply bases available? Like hell did they. Argentina was their turf. America provided us missiles, fuel and offered to lend us replacement ships if we lost any in the Falklands which is more than weak Starmer has done for them in Iran. In the Falklands we were defending our territory, in Iran he is the attacker. He is freeing Iranians from an oppressive regime. Haven't you seen all the Iranians celebrating? The only ones moaning are the pink haired, pronoun confused, jobless and homegrown wokes we have here unfortunately." Did you hear his answer when asked how it ends? Maybe we'll end up with someone better in charge, maybe someone worse. Brilliant plan! He's an idiot just following Netanyahu. | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately." . You know when he is lying. When he is awake | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? " . Yes always the last governments fault. Never Liebour yawn | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. " Maybe they are ready to go but we don’t want to send them to join in a very costly war when USA & Israel can do a perfectly good job themselves. | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? " . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂 | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? " Liebour have been in 2 years. Cant be blaming previous governments now 😂 | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? Liebour have been in 2 years. Cant be blaming previous governments now 😂" Do you think they can build a destroyed in 2 years? | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? Liebour have been in 2 years. Cant be blaming previous governments now 😂" The decision to build 6 (reduced from the 12 wanted) new multi use ships was announced by grant shapps in May 24. I don't think any will be ready till nearly 2030. That government had been in place for 14 years. But as usual, why bother checking facts. | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂" And it was in for updates, see my other post on when the decision was made to build the ships we need. That will update your facts. | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. " Naval chiefs can only do what the government of the day allows. As for the Defence Secretary well he was being mooted as a possible replacement to Starmer a couple of weeks ago | |||
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defensive. Hopefully calling for a general election as he is stepping down "As much as I dislike Starmer and his ragtag government we need a general election at this worrying time like a hole in the head. Plus if polls are anything to go by we would end up with a hung parliament, a weak minority government or a weak, fractious, cobbled together coalition. | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂 And it was in for updates, see my other post on when the decision was made to build the ships we need. That will update your facts. Not relevent Stop digging. Your reference was to the ship in question which still has not sailed. Nothing to do with the tories" 👇👇👇👇 | |||
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"What a complete joke starmer and his cronies are , if nothing else this conflict has shown the world how pathetic the uk has become. This government can suddenly find billions for welfare but we can’t afford to protect our bases and troops overseas ( imagine how unpopular starmer is with our fabulous troops ) he will be gone soon and god help us all with his replacement! " Very true, one the Royal Navy who ruled the seas and now can't defend British military for two weeks. Starmer sure is wrecking everything , I firmly believe that Starmer wants to flood the country with immigrants. The sad thing is that his wife is a Jew so he's being a traitor to her and her family by defending Muslims. Utter scumbag and a waste of air. No wonder Trump thinks he's a useless drip 😂 | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂 This is from the Royal navy.. The refit, which started in July last year, is Dragon’s first major maintenance period since the ship was launched in 2008, and has included substantial maintenance to the state of the art electric propulsion system, as well as upgrades across weapons, sensors and communications systems." HMS Dragon is the only boat Starmer has stopped. He is a disaster. | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂 This is from the Royal navy.. The refit, which started in July last year, is Dragon’s first major maintenance period since the ship was launched in 2008, and has included substantial maintenance to the state of the art electric propulsion system, as well as upgrades across weapons, sensors and communications systems. HMS Dragon is the only boat Starmer has stopped. He is a disaster." I would have named it HMS Happy Ending | |||
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"Is he going to announce he has found another rent boy? Sshh don't tell the wife 😂" Ah, that one again. Do you actually have any evidence to support your right-wing urban myth? | |||
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"The Starmer Government has embarrassed this Country. Cyprus asking France Spain and Germany to protect them and our service men and bases is a national disgrace. The cabinet slavishly adheres to the legal points, but cannot respond in a practical, pragmatic way. All talk .... No show. On top of this shitshow .... We now find out that the Labour Party is mired in a Chinese spying scandal .... We seem to have a Manchurian candidate as Prime Minister. " Wow, having a government that respects the rule of law at all levels? Well who needs that? I cannot believe the number of people willing to put others in harms way for the price of a tank of fuel. | |||
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"There is some amount of misinformation, deliberate misinterpretation and downright lies on here Obviously preferring comforting lies over uncomfortable truths" The usual right-wing playbook. Some of this group probably helped to write it. | |||
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"The level of ignorance on here about how naval resources can be deployed and how maintenance/refit schedules impact on availability is truly staggering " Unless we have a few jolly admirals, naval strategists or a few knowledgeable Jack tars amongst our number you wouldn't really expect otherwise would you? 😆 | |||
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"Didn't see it, but how many times did he say "national interest" he can't open his mouth without saying that lately. You're telling me. I will say fair play to him for not bowing to the orange toddler who cries when things doesn't go his way the orange toddler as call him has a set of balls unlike starmer "....he's taking a leaf out of Harold wilsons book...Wilson wouldn't get involved in the disastrous Vietnam war....Starmer is listening to the British people....only 8% support entering donnys wet dream.... | |||
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defencive." Purely defensive and none confrontational, Europe is in this war it's a Jewish war against Arabia | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. " 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. | |||
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"Imagine choosing your own political career over national security! How anyone can defend this travesty of a government is beyond me " I think most of America are saying that of their leaders right now. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. " If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. " . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran?" If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. " ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.." Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. | |||
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defencive. Purely defensive and none confrontational, Europe is in this war it's a Jewish war against Arabia " Sorry, should have said Europe isn't in this war, it's the Jews trying to the Arabs but they will never succeed | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war" Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. " Middle East for the Middle Easterns. It's fuck all to do with us | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. " ...so you're part of the 8% then....? | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. Middle East for the Middle Easterns. It's fuck all to do with us" Every schoolboy is aware that without the energy resources of the Middle East (oil and gas), Europe would encounter a severe, systemic energy crisis unlike anything you have ever witnessed in your lifetime. | |||
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"I am just waiting for Trump to charge extra tariffs on those countries who did not support this war" It's Americans who pay the tariffs it's a import tax bit like the one they revolted against when we taxed their tea. | |||
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"What are your thoughts? - 4 Typhoon jets to be sent over to Qatar - First charter flight has taken off from Oman -Starmer defends not joining the initial strikes - Starmers focus is on calm, level headed leadership - Stsrmers Priority is protecting our people Give it another week or 2 and we'll be at war on the offensive rather than defencive. Purely defensive and none confrontational, Europe is in this war it's a Jewish war against Arabia " Oh dear. Iranians aren't Arabs, they're Persian. Iran is actually attacking Arab nations who are on good terms with Israel. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. " What has Netanyahu been doing do you think , making friends and influencing people or stealing land and killing children in Gaza and now in Iran . Special place in hell mapped out for this gentleman right next to the ayatollah and the last shah | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....?" What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. " ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha " | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait It was fired by Hezbolah from Lebanon, one of the satellite terrorist organisations aligned with Iran "Fired by Israel from Lebanon or Russia from Syria to get the UK dragged into this madness. | |||
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"Is he going to announce he has found another rent boy? Sshh don't tell the wife 😂 Ah, that one again. Do you actually have any evidence to support your right-wing urban myth?" Do you have any to prove me wrong? No, didn't think so. 😂 | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha " Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait It was fired by Hezbolah from Lebanon, one of the satellite terrorist organisations aligned with Iran
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. " 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% " That is rather different than the claim made on here further up the thread that - '8% of us (those polled in the UK) want to go to war' Seeing as I'm not a liberal American .... I can confirm that I'm not part of the '8%' | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. What has Netanyahu been doing do you think , making friends and influencing people or stealing land and killing children in Gaza and now in Iran . Special place in hell mapped out for this gentleman right next to the ayatollah and the last shah" I get that lefties are pros at Whataboutism, but what I can't wrap my head around is why they think the late shah deserves to be in hell??? Is it because he modernised Iran back in the day? Or was he mistaken for giving women the right to vote, outlawing child marriage, limiting polygamy, and promoting women's access to higher education and careers? Or He made a big impact by cutting down illiteracy and raising education standards.#ayatollah | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% " You're wrong the 28% is those Brits who support the USA and Israel going to war with Iran only 8% want the UK going to war hope this helps | |||
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" My original reference was to why don't we have enough ships. " Because this wretched Labour government prioritised spending five times on welfare than defence. That’s right, FIVE times greater the welfare budget is than defence. Labour came to power in the middle of a brutal European war and promised to change things for the better. The tories were a shit show re defence but Labour have had plenty of time to recognise how defenceless our hapless nation is now and Starmer has done sod all. Of all his U-turns, indecisiveness and downright lies, his failure to protect our people & nation is the most shameful & gross negligent and he needs to go right now. He has embarrassed our nation to all our allies and, indeed, our enemies. | |||
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" My original reference was to why don't we have enough ships. Because this wretched Labour government prioritised spending five times on welfare than defence. That’s right, FIVE times greater the welfare budget is than defence. Labour came to power in the middle of a brutal European war and promised to change things for the better. The tories were a shit show re defence but Labour have had plenty of time to recognise how defenceless our hapless nation is now and Starmer has done sod all. Of all his U-turns, indecisiveness and downright lies, his failure to protect our people & nation is the most shameful & gross negligent and he needs to go right now. He has embarrassed our nation to all our allies and, indeed, our enemies." We have ships being built right now you can't buy them off the peg they're all made to measure | |||
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"Why are our war ships not prepared and ready to go immediately when required. Imagine telephoning the police when you hear a burglar in your house ‘We will be there as soon as we can as we need to check the tyres on the car and put some fuel in’ The Defense Secretary should resign alongside the Navy Chiefs. Possibly because previous governments have not funded defence enough? . HMS Dragon had a major engine refit in 2024 during Tories Goverment. Been fully operational since. Just updating your usual inaccurate knowledge 😂 This is from the Royal navy.. The refit, which started in July last year, is Dragon’s first major maintenance period since the ship was launched in 2008, and has included substantial maintenance to the state of the art electric propulsion system, as well as upgrades across weapons, sensors and communications systems. HMS Dragon is the only boat Starmer has stopped. He is a disaster." The worst Prime Minister we have had. Along with that Obese idiot Lammy who hadn't even got a clue about Cyprus. | |||
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" My original reference was to why don't we have enough ships. Because this wretched Labour government prioritised spending five times on welfare than defence. That’s right, FIVE times greater the welfare budget is than defence. Labour came to power in the middle of a brutal European war and promised to change things for the better. The tories were a shit show re defence but Labour have had plenty of time to recognise how defenceless our hapless nation is now and Starmer has done sod all. Of all his U-turns, indecisiveness and downright lies, his failure to protect our people & nation is the most shameful & gross negligent and he needs to go right now. He has embarrassed our nation to all our allies and, indeed, our enemies." Starmer is an embarassment . All he cares about are his core voters. They are deserting him for the Greens. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. What has Netanyahu been doing do you think , making friends and influencing people or stealing land and killing children in Gaza and now in Iran . Special place in hell mapped out for this gentleman right next to the ayatollah and the last shah I get that lefties are pros at Whataboutism, but what I can't wrap my head around is why they think the late shah deserves to be in hell??? Is it because he modernised Iran back in the day? Or was he mistaken for giving women the right to vote, outlawing child marriage, limiting polygamy, and promoting women's access to higher education and careers? Or He made a big impact by cutting down illiteracy and raising education standards.#ayatollah" Or could it be the murder and oppression of opposition over a long period as well as beggaring the majority of the country by treating the country’s wealth as his own fiefdom . Wealth the welp of a son has been able to live off for the past 40 years in luxury in Paris , while he awaits the yanks putting him back into a puppet government for more family looting | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% You're wrong the 28% is those Brits who support the USA and Israel going to war with Iran only 8% want the UK going to war hope this helps " Maybe Paul Hardcastle will release a revised version of his old classic '19' ... and clear this statistical controversy up for us all. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% You're wrong the 28% is those Brits who support the USA and Israel going to war with Iran only 8% want the UK going to war hope this helps Maybe Paul Hardcastle will release a revised version of his old classic '19' ... and clear this statistical controversy up for us all. " ....well we couldn't have your narrative shot down...could we...?....I feel a tds attack coming on... | |||
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" My original reference was to why don't we have enough ships. Because this wretched Labour government prioritised spending five times on welfare than defence. That’s right, FIVE times greater the welfare budget is than defence. Labour came to power in the middle of a brutal European war and promised to change things for the better. The tories were a shit show re defence but Labour have had plenty of time to recognise how defenceless our hapless nation is now and Starmer has done sod all. Of all his U-turns, indecisiveness and downright lies, his failure to protect our people & nation is the most shameful & gross negligent and he needs to go right now. He has embarrassed our nation to all our allies and, indeed, our enemies." Dear God. Tories reduced the defence budget, labour are upping it. That takes time. Do you think they can order a warship from amazon for next day delivery or something. | |||
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"Sideshow-Starmer has put Labour Party management and his own interests before the National interest. 8% of the nation want us to go to war. So he is putting the national interest first. If only it were Britain's national interest instead of China's. . ..do you want Britain to attack Iran? If it helps to destroy their terroristic & barbaric regime .... Yes! They are a rabid dog that needs to be put down by any means necessary. ...any other barbaric regimes you want to help destroy...Russia, China,north Korea...?.. Not really .... The Iranian one will suffice for now. ...so you're part of the 8% then....? What '8%'? How was that conclusion reached? ..... Did it come from Labour Central Office perchance? .... Or perhaps dreampt up by the Muslin Council of GB (Between fasting). Knowing this government.... the so called 8% was cobbled together by both. ....all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google....hahaha Wrong again. Of course I Googled the claimed '8%' statistic. The Great God Google failed to confirm it .... or even come close. Must be one of those things that just gets bandied around the internet by Iranian regime sympathists, the Green Party ... & Labour Party activists. I wonder what % of able-minded people take the 8% claim seriously? Some people will swallow anything. 8% of liberal Americans accordingly to yougov, Britain is 58% in favour of not getting involved against 28% in favour of military action . Hope this clears up the 8% You're wrong the 28% is those Brits who support the USA and Israel going to war with Iran only 8% want the UK going to war hope this helps Maybe Paul Hardcastle will release a revised version of his old classic '19' ... and clear this statistical controversy up for us all. ....well we couldn't have your narrative shot down...could we...?....I feel a tds attack coming on..." You seem to be using actual facts and knowledge against numptyism. It's never gonna work. | |||
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" Dear God. Tories reduced the defence budget, labour are upping it. That takes time. Do you think they can order a warship from amazon for next day delivery or something. " Nice try but quite a pathetic retort, as per. Welfare increases will kick in almost immediately, just lifting the 2 child cap will cost an extra £3b from next month alone. Defence? From 2027. That tells you that welfare was a choice of this awful government as the priority, over everything else. So that new warship you keep blabbering on about won’t even be ordered until up to almost 2 years away. In addition, there are plenty of military that can be purchased right now from around the world, not just warships. The fact is Labour chose to prioritise welfare over our defence and that is fatal for any government. | |||
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"But have the theocracies ever seriously been on the verge of sending missiles our way Chubbsy? Richey, I am completely confident that they would arrive in Europe in the very near future. They have even been testing their drones in the skies of Ukraine, traversing through Russia, for how many years now? It is so obvious. That regime is a Nazi regime . Don’t even doubt about it . What utter rubbish if you believe Iran was going to rain missiles down on european soil in the near future then I have a London Bridge for sale you might be interested in. The up side of this aggression in the short term for Russia is sanctions are being lifted so European and others can buy oil and gas from them ,suppose Zelenskyy is getting bum fucked too by trump and Netanyahu with this illegal war Is it complete nonsense, or is it difficult for you to comprehend the situation? These are two distinct matters... If you have been following the Ukraine war over the past five years, you must have certainly heard about the Shahed drones from the Ayatollahs and that Russia is utilising Iranian drones? Ukraine today, and tomorrow Poland, with all of Europe to follow. Are you suggesting that the Ayatollahs are not akin to Nazis? They have devastated the entire Middle East right in front of Starmer and his associates who wish to bury their heads in the sand. What has Netanyahu been doing do you think , making friends and influencing people or stealing land and killing children in Gaza and now in Iran . Special place in hell mapped out for this gentleman right next to the ayatollah and the last shah I get that lefties are pros at Whataboutism, but what I can't wrap my head around is why they think the late shah deserves to be in hell??? Is it because he modernised Iran back in the day? Or was he mistaken for giving women the right to vote, outlawing child marriage, limiting polygamy, and promoting women's access to higher education and careers? Or He made a big impact by cutting down illiteracy and raising education standards.#ayatollah Or could it be the murder and oppression of opposition over a long period as well as beggaring the majority of the country by treating the country’s wealth as his own fiefdom . Wealth the welp of a son has been able to live off for the past 40 years in luxury in Paris , while he awaits the yanks putting him back into a puppet government for more family looting " Are you referring to Hezbe Tudeh as an opposition? Or which opposition group are you discussing? Cheirkhaye Fadaii? It's good to know. Well, his father was the king of Iran, and he was affluent because of that position. He never concealed his wealth. Can you name a king from any nation who is poor? Interestingly, Ayatollah Khamenei, who was not a king, has a wealth estimated at around $95 billion, which is 95 times greater than that of the Shah. It's also important to consider the currency value at the time he left Iran compared to the current situation. In 1979, one US dollar was equivalent to 7 toman, while in 2026, one US dollar equals 160,000 toman. | |||
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" Dear God. Tories reduced the defence budget, labour are upping it. That takes time. Do you think they can order a warship from amazon for next day delivery or something. Nice try but quite a pathetic retort, as per. Welfare increases will kick in almost immediately, just lifting the 2 child cap will cost an extra £3b from next month alone. Defence? From 2027. That tells you that welfare was a choice of this awful government as the priority, over everything else. So that new warship you keep blabbering on about won’t even be ordered until up to almost 2 years away. In addition, there are plenty of military that can be purchased right now from around the world, not just warships. The fact is Labour chose to prioritise welfare over our defence and that is fatal for any government. Warships are being built right now without having to starve children. " | |||
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" Warships are being built right now without having to starve children. " Who’s starving children? I never did, I had children i could provide for. So we’re now going into the fundamentals of our differences between the like of you and I aren’t we? No person should rely on the state to bring up a child they bring into the world, other than in unexpected events in life. | |||
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" Warships are being built right now without having to starve children. Who’s starving children? I never did, I had children i could provide for. So we’re now going into the fundamentals of our differences between the like of you and I aren’t we? No person should rely on the state to bring up a child they bring into the world, other than in unexpected events in life. " Agree. | |||
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" Warships are being built right now without having to starve children. Who’s starving children? I never did, I had children i could provide for. So we’re now going into the fundamentals of our differences between the like of you and I aren’t we? No person should rely on the state to bring up a child they bring into the world, other than in unexpected events in life. " Life is full of unexpected events | |||
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" Warships are being built right now without having to starve children. Who’s starving children? I never did, I had children i could provide for. So we’re now going into the fundamentals of our differences between the like of you and I aren’t we? No person should rely on the state to bring up a child they bring into the world, other than in unexpected events in life. Life is full of unexpected events " the husband running off with Wayne from the Sainsbury's advert | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it " The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that | |||
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" I feel more sorry for your children than any that are starving. Poor buggers" No sympathy needed for my kids, sorry to disappoint you. Both doing fantastically well in life & both love their mam & dad. About as much as one could hope for. 👍💋 | |||
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" It's nice they've met their real dad, I'm happy for them I feel more sorry for your children than any that are starving. Poor buggers No sympathy needed for my kids, sorry to disappoint you. Both doing fantastically well in life & both love their mam & dad. About as much as one could hope for. 👍💋 " | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that" copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. | |||
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"Now it’s gonna take even longer to get HMS dragon to Cyprus as the workers are only doing 9-5 ! And they are waiting for parts to be delivered from china "Starmer 💯% at fault. He’s failed his most basic fundamental requirement of PM, failing the defence of his people, particularly the service people in Cyprus. He has no shame. | |||
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"Now it’s gonna take even longer to get HMS dragon to Cyprus as the workers are only doing 9-5 ! And they are waiting for parts to be delivered from china "Ha ha ha . Fab | |||
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"Now it’s gonna take even longer to get HMS dragon to Cyprus as the workers are only doing 9-5 ! And they are waiting for parts to be delivered from china
Starmer 💯% at fault.
He’s failed his most basic fundamental requirement of PM, failing the defence of his people, particularly the service people in Cyprus.
He has no shame."Yeah, he ordered them on his personal Shein account I bet | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. " Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater | |||
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Starmer 💯% at fault.
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He has no shame."So you're also saying Margaret Thatcher failed her people by allowing the Falklands to be invaded. | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater " Labeling the Shah of Iran as a thief without any supporting evidence, copying and pasting from Wikipedia, when I posed questions twice, you did not respond as you lack knowledge regarding what you copied. Otherwise, you would have. and now you are lamenting that it is a personal attack. What utter nonsense! I hope you have a pleasant day. Next time, please come prepared with better information that we can at least trust. | |||
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" So you're also saying Margaret Thatcher failed her people by allowing the Falklands to be invaded. Fuck me, they’re all out tonight!! ‘Nurse! Nurse!!’🤭" Sorry you should have said your medication is due | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater Labeling the Shah of Iran as a thief without any supporting evidence, copying and pasting from Wikipedia, when I posed questions twice, you did not respond as you lack knowledge regarding what you copied. Otherwise, you would have. and now you are lamenting that it is a personal attack. What utter nonsense! I hope you have a pleasant day. Next time, please come prepared with better information that we can at least trust." It’s your argument that are weak and unfounded the information is not from Wikipedia and it is historically correct to call a thief and murderer just that , well documented and investigated from many sources and if you can’t appreciate being properly schooled then I’m done trying to educate | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater Labeling the Shah of Iran as a thief without any supporting evidence, copying and pasting from Wikipedia, when I posed questions twice, you did not respond as you lack knowledge regarding what you copied. Otherwise, you would have. and now you are lamenting that it is a personal attack. What utter nonsense! I hope you have a pleasant day. Next time, please come prepared with better information that we can at least trust. It’s your argument that are weak and unfounded the information is not from Wikipedia and it is historically correct to call a thief and murderer just that , well documented and investigated from many sources and if you can’t appreciate being properly schooled then I’m done trying to educate " I don't mind where you sourced it from, but that wasn't my main point. My point was that you were unable to respond to the question I posed based on your statement. Clearly, you were unaware of what you had written. I hope you return and provide an answer, for goodness' sake | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater Labeling the Shah of Iran as a thief without any supporting evidence, copying and pasting from Wikipedia, when I posed questions twice, you did not respond as you lack knowledge regarding what you copied. Otherwise, you would have. and now you are lamenting that it is a personal attack. What utter nonsense! I hope you have a pleasant day. Next time, please come prepared with better information that we can at least trust. It’s your argument that are weak and unfounded the information is not from Wikipedia and it is historically correct to call a thief and murderer just that , well documented and investigated from many sources and if you can’t appreciate being properly schooled then I’m done trying to educate I don't mind where you sourced it from, but that wasn't my main point. My point was that you were unable to respond to the question I posed based on your statement. Clearly, you were unaware of what you had written. I hope you return and provide an answer, for goodness' sake" 2 ultra-right wing lunatics clashing, things you love to see 😁 | |||
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"Now it’s gonna take even longer to get HMS dragon to Cyprus as the workers are only doing 9-5 ! And they are waiting for parts to be delivered from china
Starmer 💯% at fault.
He’s failed his most basic fundamental requirement of PM, failing the defence of his people, particularly the service people in Cyprus.
He has no shame."If the ship was in for an update maybe you can share with us how we get that out and on sea while it was being worked on? You could also wonder why we should get involved in attacking a country that isreal and America have decided to attack without actually having a follow up plan, other than seeming to want a one religion word. | |||
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" 🤣🤣 Take it the medication is working " “Oooooh, loads of Iranians are coming to UK on boats from 4000 miles away because Donald took out the most brutal dictator since Stalin” “Donald! You naughty, naughty man!” You’re a joke fella. | |||
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" 🤣🤣 Take it the medication is working “Oooooh, loads of Iranians are coming to UK on boats from 4000 miles away because Donald took out the most brutal dictator since Stalin” “Donald! You naughty, naughty man!” You’re a joke fella. " Put the bottle down and go to bed | |||
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" If the ship was in for an update maybe you can share with us how we get that out and on sea while it was being worked on? You could also wonder why we should get involved in attacking a country that isreal and America have decided to attack without actually having a follow up plan, other than seeming to want a one religion word. " My God, is obtuse just your manner? Starmer said yesterday that his government were planning for this eventuality since January. So it takes months to equip our only available vessel does it??? And Trump took out the most barbaric despot since Stalin. Very, very obviously, you believe that is wrong? Why? Tell us why?? What are your beliefs & motives here? | |||
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"The British oil grab In March 1951, Iran’s parliament voted to proceed with nationalisation. This caused consternation in the west – most notably in Britain, where the prospect of nationalisation was seen as potentially hugely damaging to the economy. Furthermore, it would have undermined Britain’s influence in the Middle East. Plotting to depose Mosaddegh began in earnest. In the event, the coup – named Operation Ajax – was a joint venture between the CIA and MI6. The shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who had recently fled the country after an earlier plot to remove Mossadegh had failed, returned to Iran. Within a short period, he had tightened his grip on the country’s security services and imposed a dictatorial regime which ruled through brutality and fear. Pahlavi banned all opposition political parties, and many of the activists who participated in the movement for nationalisation of oil were arrested or fled the country. Government by fear In 1957, the shah established an internal security service, Sazman-e Ettel'at va Amniyat-e Keshvar (Savak), which essentially ran Iran at the shah’s bidding. From then until 1975, only two major political parties were allowed to operate, the People’s Party (Ḥezb-e Mardom) and the New Iran Party (Ḥezb-e Iran-e Novin), and all parliamentary candidates had to be approved by Savak. And we wonder why the ayatollahs came to power , I think the saying is those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it I acknowledge that Shah made a mistake regarding Mosaddegh without a doubt, but labeling him a dictator indicates a lack of understanding about him . What truly matters is what he contributed to the Iranian people and the state of Iran when he left, compared to the current situation. You want to discuss 1951, which many leftists reference, but we are in 2026. You cannot deceive people in the age of the internet. So, the Ayatollahs couldn't succeed with their lies about Pahlavi. People witnessed the construction of hospitals during the Shah's reign, the establishment of universities, the opening of schools, the development of roads and major investments in infrastructure. women' right and so forth...Do you really believe that the Mosaddegh case could erase all the positive contributions he made for the Iranian people? i really doubt it The shah was a thief and murderer no better than the ayatollahs , history has condemned his brutal dictatorship, something he didn’t gain through his own sweat but the collusion of the west . This is historically recorded and no amount of whitewashing is going to change that copying and pasting Wikipedia content authored by a schoolboy does not accurately convey the history of the Shah. it is important to note that the Shah was not a thief; the true thieves in that nation were the leftist politicians and the Ayatollahs. Please make a more substantial effort.. Personal attacks the last bastion of a failed debater Labeling the Shah of Iran as a thief without any supporting evidence, copying and pasting from Wikipedia, when I posed questions twice, you did not respond as you lack knowledge regarding what you copied. Otherwise, you would have. and now you are lamenting that it is a personal attack. What utter nonsense! I hope you have a pleasant day. Next time, please come prepared with better information that we can at least trust. It’s your argument that are weak and unfounded the information is not from Wikipedia and it is historically correct to call a thief and murderer just that , well documented and investigated from many sources and if you can’t appreciate being properly schooled then I’m done trying to educate I don't mind where you sourced it from, but that wasn't my main point. My point was that you were unable to respond to the question I posed based on your statement. Clearly, you were unaware of what you had written. I hope you return and provide an answer, for goodness' sake 2 ultra-right wing lunatics clashing, things you love to see 😁" I am uncertain as to why you placed that here?was the clash about a leftwing clown 😆 | |||
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" If the ship was in for an update maybe you can share with us how we get that out and on sea while it was being worked on? You could also wonder why we should get involved in attacking a country that isreal and America have decided to attack without actually having a follow up plan, other than seeming to want a one religion word. My God, is obtuse just your manner? Starmer said yesterday that his government were planning for this eventuality since January. So it takes months to equip our only available vessel does it??? And Trump took out the most barbaric despot since Stalin. Very, very obviously, you believe that is wrong? Why? Tell us why?? What are your beliefs & motives here?" The worst despot since Stalin have you ever heard of Pol Pot You never let facts bother you | |||
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" The worst despot since Stalin have you ever heard of Pol Pot You never let facts bother you " Oh right, so because, according to you, Pol Pot had more blood on his hands than the ayatollah then the ayatollah was a pretty decent fella?? Fuckin hell! In any case, the ayatollah is estimated to have killed more than Pol Pot’s derisory 2m. 🙄 | |||
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"Well at the very least, the MOD did confirm that the attack on Cyprus did not come from Iran - they aren't sure who did it yet. So perhaps it was good we didn't take the bait Could be the yanks trying to stir things up. Wouldn't put it past Trump " It's not Trump, it's his boyfriend | |||
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" If the ship was in for an update maybe you can share with us how we get that out and on sea while it was being worked on? You could also wonder why we should get involved in attacking a country that isreal and America have decided to attack without actually having a follow up plan, other than seeming to want a one religion word. My God, is obtuse just your manner? Starmer said yesterday that his government were planning for this eventuality since January. So it takes months to equip our only available vessel does it??? And Trump took out the most barbaric despot since Stalin. Very, very obviously, you believe that is wrong? Why? Tell us why?? What are your beliefs & motives here?" Ffs, yes it takes months to update a vessel, maybe check the royal navy website. Did I say trump was wrong for taking out irans leader? No, I said isreal and America have done it with no plan for what happens after. | |||
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" If the ship was in for an update maybe you can share with us how we get that out and on sea while it was being worked on? You could also wonder why we should get involved in attacking a country that isreal and America have decided to attack without actually having a follow up plan, other than seeming to want a one religion word. My God, is obtuse just your manner? Starmer said yesterday that his government were planning for this eventuality since January. So it takes months to equip our only available vessel does it??? And Trump took out the most barbaric despot since Stalin. Very, very obviously, you believe that is wrong? Why? Tell us why?? What are your beliefs & motives here? Ffs, yes it takes months to update a vessel, maybe check the royal navy website. Did I say trump was wrong for taking out irans leader? No, I said isreal and America have done it with no plan for what happens after. " I'm curious about what the plan would be ???? for a regime that's amassed so many dangerous weapons hidden underground and in the _ountains, always ready to attack and never willing to back down. Shouldn't the best approach be to eliminate them first?You can't really plan anything ahead without taking them out first. For a murderous regime that has taken the lives of 40,000 young Iranians in just 10 hours, the only plan should be to strike and take them down. Iran isn't like Syria or Iraq; it's a whole different ball game compared to other Arab nations. So, it would definitely be easier to strategise once they're out of the picture. | |||
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