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"After Iran had told the UK that allowing the US to use British military bases will be considered "participation in aggression". The UK Goverment has given permission for the US air bases to be used for air strikes against Iran. I assume that Keir Starmer, now thinks that legally the threat from Iran justifies the UK to grant permission for American bombers to carry out attacks on Iran. " I think, from what I've read it's to allow the US to carry out strikes in the Strait of Hormuz. Presumably, he's made the calculations that it's: A: legal B: for the greater good economically both domestic and global C: we are now ready for some sort of defensive war | |||
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" I think, from what I've read it's to allow the US to carry out strikes in the Strait of Hormuz. Presumably, he's made the calculations that it's: A: legal B: for the greater good economically both domestic and global C: we are now ready for some sort of defensive war " A: as said in my thread, Starmer is from a legal background. B: I doubt the motive would be against the greater good for all. C:please clarify this point? | |||
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" I think, from what I've read it's to allow the US to carry out strikes in the Strait of Hormuz. Presumably, he's made the calculations that it's: A: legal B: for the greater good economically both domestic and global C: we are now ready for some sort of defensive war A: as said in my thread, Starmer is from a legal background. B: I doubt the motive would be against the greater good for all. C:please clarify this point?" That we have functioning ships HMS dragon was in getting repaired. So I presume she is where she needs to be or she can get there in time. I think I heard we only have two and the other patrols the north sea and is needed because of Russian activity | |||
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"This is all so screwed up" Fear not ... Our steadfast PM will soon make another one of his rousingly reassuring "Let me be clear" speeches, and put the nation's mind to sleep, ..... I mean rest. | |||
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"Fact is USAF bombers were always going to be flying from Lakenheath and Fairford because they're within reach and vetoing it would literally be the special relationship torpedoed. It'd take bigger balls than Starmer or anyone in any UK party possesses to say no. Defensive is bullshit talk though. Everybody knows the targets." No it isn't. It has legal meaning. You strike first - offensive You strike after attack - defensive It's an important distinction for what we can and can't do legally | |||
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"Fact is USAF bombers were always going to be flying from Lakenheath and Fairford because they're within reach and vetoing it would literally be the special relationship torpedoed. It'd take bigger balls than Starmer or anyone in any UK party possesses to say no. Defensive is bullshit talk though. Everybody knows the targets. No it isn't. It has legal meaning. You strike first - offensive You strike after attack - defensive It's an important distinction for what we can and can't do legally " Agreed, that is why Starmer has changed the Goverment stance on the subject. Not a u-turn but a thoughtful policy choice. | |||
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"Gotta smile at alot of the legally constructed replies in here. Starmer may be able to hide behind these thin words. But my penny is it's political. The uk consumer sees increasing costs and starmer wants to be on the right side of the politics. Non of this is likely to help the situation. The us should have thought more carefully about this I'll fainted war. " According to yougov polling Starmers position is where the public is. Not to get involved in the wider war but protect our bases and people. It just happens to be that his legal reading of the situation fits the mood of the country | |||
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"Gotta smile at alot of the legally constructed replies in here. Starmer may be able to hide behind these thin words. But my penny is it's political. The uk consumer sees increasing costs and starmer wants to be on the right side of the politics. Non of this is likely to help the situation. The us should have thought more carefully about this I'll fainted war. " Of course it political, what else do you expect from a politician, food recipes. Time to watch the football. | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . " How? | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . " Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." | |||
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"We need a leader not a bloody shyster lawyer!" O? Leading us in to illegal wars? Whats your opinion on tony Blair? | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry."" Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility | |||
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"So many experts on here "Actually not, just concerned citizens voicing opinions, and debating. Pretty British things | |||
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. " But they did | |||
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. But they did" rightly | |||
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"Realpolitik. Starmer wants to look like a leader, publicly. " Babe. On this he is. He's lucky. The public opinion is where his legal opinion lands | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility " Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that. | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that." Still welcome are you? Lucky! Don't you think? | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that. Still welcome are you? Lucky! Don't you think?" What on earth are you gibbering about? | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that. Still welcome are you? Lucky! Don't you think? What on earth are you gibbering about? " You? Welcome? Anywhere? | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that. Still welcome are you? Lucky! Don't you think? What on earth are you gibbering about? You? Welcome? Anywhere?" Ohhhhh .... That was an attempt at a put-down. I should have sensed the desperate clutching of your little straws. Pitiful. | |||
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Actually not, just concerned citizens voicing opinions, and debating.
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. But they did" So you think it’s right for the UK to allow Trump to use its basses in the pursuit of his illegal war. Trump and Netanyahu attacked Iran which was against international and American law. Starmer has no balls or he would have refused them access to these facilities. The criminal has opened a pit now and has no idea how to get out and Starmer has now drawn the UK into this ridiculous war. | |||
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. But they did So you think it’s right for the UK to allow Trump to use its basses in the pursuit of his illegal war. Trump and Netanyahu attacked Iran which was against international and American law. Starmer has no balls or he would have refused them access to these facilities. The criminal has opened a pit now and has no idea how to get out and Starmer has now drawn the UK into this ridiculous war." And Cathy Newman has entered the forum... | |||
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. But they did So you think it’s right for the UK to allow Trump to use its basses in the pursuit of his illegal war. Trump and Netanyahu attacked Iran which was against international and American law. Starmer has no balls or he would have refused them access to these facilities. The criminal has opened a pit now and has no idea how to get out and Starmer has now drawn the UK into this ridiculous war." Write a stiff letter of complaint to your MP and the PM .... No need to suffer in silence. | |||
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"Fact is USAF bombers were always going to be flying from Lakenheath and Fairford because they're within reach and vetoing it would literally be the special relationship torpedoed. It'd take bigger balls than Starmer or anyone in any UK party possesses to say no. Defensive is bullshit talk though. Everybody knows the targets. No it isn't. It has legal meaning. You strike first - offensive You strike after attack - defensive It's an important distinction for what we can and can't do legally Agreed, that is why Starmer has changed the Goverment stance on the subject. Not a u-turn but a thoughtful policy choice." “A thoughtful policy choice” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That is just “Yes Minister” spin for a U Turn. | |||
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"This would in legal terms be considered coercive and controlling behaviour in any special relationship , Starmer was already giving trump the milk and now has given him the cow . Our hapless PM is more likely to hand over a bull by mistake. "Let me be clear ... My cabinet colleagues and I have personally milked it ourselves and can confirm that it meets all the legal requirements under International Law concerning broader-bovine husbandry." Move to America if you don't like cabinet responsibility Think I'll stay in my own homeland, thanks ... deep roots and all that. Still welcome are you? Lucky! Don't you think? What on earth are you gibbering about? You? Welcome? Anywhere? Ohhhhh .... That was an attempt at a put-down. I should have sensed the desperate clutching of your little straws. Pitiful. " You see straws? Dead or alive? | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war??" He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases " With no idea of the end game . Even trump and Netanyahu can’t agree on what page their their reading from . Trumps own intelligence guy has said the imminent threat was none existent . | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases " Lol - Weasel words as usual. Starmers 'Bombs of Peace' "Now let me be clear. Our British bombs of peace have been fully certified and approved under International law and will only be used as a peaceful defensive measure in the interests of the British people ... Especially the Muslim ones who are thinking about voting for the Green party in the upcoming local elections." | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases " Not what Iran say and they’re the ones that matter here. 2 Iranians today broke into a UK military base. Oh dear. | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases Not what Iran say and they’re the ones that matter here. 2 Iranians today broke into a UK military base. Oh dear." ...all of a sudden you're on irans side....? | |||
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"We need a leader not a bloody shyster lawyer!" Yeah, not sure anyone wants to end up in the Hague | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases With no idea of the end game . Even trump and Netanyahu can’t agree on what page their their reading from . Trumps own intelligence guy has said the imminent threat was none existent . " All this is true. But seeing the damage the closing of the strait of Hormuz is doing. Starmer has calculated that the threat from Iran is lower risk than economic collapse. You don't have to agree with his position but you can see why he's done it | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases Not what Iran say and they’re the ones that matter here. 2 Iranians today broke into a UK military base. Oh dear." If Iranians mattered, they'd support the uprising and have a plan for they want. Not bomb from above and kill people you don't like with nothing to replace them | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases Not what Iran say and they’re the ones that matter here. 2 Iranians today broke into a UK military base. Oh dear." It was one Iranian and a female and they did not "try to break in" to Faslane, they went to the main gate and askd to get in. They were turned away but later arrested for "hanging about outside" I think it's called attention seeking? | |||
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" It was one Iranian and a female and they did not "try to break in" to Faslane, they went to the main gate and askd to get in. They were turned away but later arrested for "hanging about outside" I think it's called attention seeking? " Ah that’s alright then, nothing weird about at least one Iranian, and an accomplice, ‘asking’ to be allowed into one of the UK’s most sensitive military bases that host nuclear submarines particularly at this point in time. 🙄 Investigations also continue. You make it sound like the poor dabs were going to a theme park out of hours and they were being a slight annoyance. In other news, two Iranian men appeared at Westminster magistrates on Thursday accused of hostile surveillance of Jewish locations & individuals. You may remember October 2025 where MI5 revealed a ‘growing’ threat posed by Iran within the UK and had tracked more than 20 potentially lethal Iran backed plots to cause murderous mayhem? MI5 also revealed a staggering 40k individuals within the UK on the terror watch list in 2020. Since then, millions more mostly undocumented young men have entered the UK illegally. Wake up man. | |||
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" It was one Iranian and a female and they did not "try to break in" to Faslane, they went to the main gate and askd to get in. They were turned away but later arrested for "hanging about outside" I think it's called attention seeking? Ah that’s alright then, nothing weird about at least one Iranian, and an accomplice, ‘asking’ to be allowed into one of the UK’s most sensitive military bases that host nuclear submarines particularly at this point in time. 🙄 Investigations also continue. You make it sound like the poor dabs were going to a theme park out of hours and they were being a slight annoyance. In other news, two Iranian men appeared at Westminster magistrates on Thursday accused of hostile surveillance of Jewish locations & individuals. You may remember October 2025 where MI5 revealed a ‘growing’ threat posed by Iran within the UK and had tracked more than 20 potentially lethal Iran backed plots to cause murderous mayhem? MI5 also revealed a staggering 40k individuals within the UK on the terror watch list in 2020. Since then, millions more mostly undocumented young men have entered the UK illegally. Wake up man." Almost makes you grateful for MI5 and the taxes that pay for them. Also, touch grass and smell some roses | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases Lol - Weasel words as usual. Starmers 'Bombs of Peace' "Now let me be clear. Our British bombs of peace have been fully certified and approved under International law and will only be used as a peaceful defensive measure in the interests of the British people ... Especially the Muslim ones who are thinking about voting for the Green party in the upcoming local elections." " Don't give up the day job. | |||
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" It was one Iranian and a female and they did not "try to break in" to Faslane, they went to the main gate and askd to get in. They were turned away but later arrested for "hanging about outside" I think it's called attention seeking? Ah that’s alright then, nothing weird about at least one Iranian, and an accomplice, ‘asking’ to be allowed into one of the UK’s most sensitive military bases that host nuclear submarines particularly at this point in time. 🙄 Investigations also continue. You make it sound like the poor dabs were going to a theme park out of hours and they were being a slight annoyance. In other news, two Iranian men appeared at Westminster magistrates on Thursday accused of hostile surveillance of Jewish locations & individuals. You may remember October 2025 where MI5 revealed a ‘growing’ threat posed by Iran within the UK and had tracked more than 20 potentially lethal Iran backed plots to cause murderous mayhem? MI5 also revealed a staggering 40k individuals within the UK on the terror watch list in 2020. Since then, millions more mostly undocumented young men have entered the UK illegally. Wake up man." Pretty sure you, Rando, GaryBNF and the 2 tranny terrorists are on that list, it's mainly made up of ultra right wing loons | |||
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"Where is Starmer fanboy Respect Due now that the hapless PM has changed his mind again and leading us to war?? He hasn't. He's allowed air strikes by us from UK bases Lol - Weasel words as usual. Starmers 'Bombs of Peace' "Now let me be clear. Our British bombs of peace have been fully certified and approved under International law and will only be used as a peaceful defensive measure in the interests of the British people ... Especially the Muslim ones who are thinking about voting for the Green party in the upcoming local elections." " Lol. It's weird how 6% of the population ways so heavily on the right wing mind. Most of whom probably don't vote. Some of whom will be conservatives and Reform(ists-ers?) remember Baroness Warssi? Zia Yusuf Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Salma Shah I could go on. Trying to portray all Muslims as left wing is inherent nonsense | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp." Isabelle Oakeshott you know her, the one who writes for the telegraph and boning Dicky Tice of the right wing party Reform. Yeah that one. She seems to like living in an Islamic hell hole called Dubai | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads" They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. " How so? Surely inclusion and tolerance means everyone should be treated equally, including Muslims. Is that now a solely left wing view? | |||
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" It was one Iranian and a female and they did not "try to break in" to Faslane, they went to the main gate and askd to get in. They were turned away but later arrested for "hanging about outside" I think it's called attention seeking? Ah that’s alright then, nothing weird about at least one Iranian, and an accomplice, ‘asking’ to be allowed into one of the UK’s most sensitive military bases that host nuclear submarines particularly at this point in time. 🙄 Investigations also continue. You make it sound like the poor dabs were going to a theme park out of hours and they were being a slight annoyance. In other news, two Iranian men appeared at Westminster magistrates on Thursday accused of hostile surveillance of Jewish locations & individuals. You may remember October 2025 where MI5 revealed a ‘growing’ threat posed by Iran within the UK and had tracked more than 20 potentially lethal Iran backed plots to cause murderous mayhem? MI5 also revealed a staggering 40k individuals within the UK on the terror watch list in 2020. Since then, millions more mostly undocumented young men have entered the UK illegally. Wake up man." Wake up to what "man"? You ever been to Faslane? You getter a better view of the whole site from the A814 than from the main gate. These two got exactly the news coverage they hoped for. | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. " Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. How so? Surely inclusion and tolerance means everyone should be treated equally, including Muslims. Is that now a solely left wing view?" Most people vote for a party based on what they believe the party will do for them. They don’t necessarily vote for everything in a manifesto. If you follow your naive argument all gay, bi trans (etc) people would also all vote for the left and that is not the case. | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. How so? Surely inclusion and tolerance means everyone should be treated equally, including Muslims. Is that now a solely left wing view? Most people vote for a party based on what they believe the party will do for them. They don’t necessarily vote for everything in a manifesto. If you follow your naive argument all gay, bi trans (etc) people would also all vote for the left and that is not the case. " Your reading my posts wrong. That's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. Muslims like any other "group" will have left wing biases and others will have right wing biases; Baroness Warssi Sajid Javid Nus Ghani Are all conservative! Trying to say they vote left as a block is utter nonsense. FYI a manifesto is a wish list not a promise. It exists in the moment it was created and then "events dear boy, events" | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. " Those happy Scandinavians proving your point? | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?" No Scandinavian country is socialist. Sweden tried it in the 70s it wasn't a great time for them. | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. Those happy Scandinavians proving your point? No Scandinavian country is socialist. Sweden tried it in the 70s it wasn't a great time for them. " What's your definition of socialist? Are you mixing socialism and Marxism? Are you American? | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp. Isabelle Oakeshott you know her, the one who writes for the telegraph and boning Dicky Tice of the right wing party Reform. Yeah that one. She seems to like living in an Islamic hell hole called Dubai " There are distinctions between Islamic Iran and Islamic Dubai. Referring to Dubai as a hell hole compared to Iran just shows your political naivety. But hey, you filled the thread with yes or no responses. Can we at least take a moment to listen to those who actually make some sense? | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. Those happy Scandinavians proving your point? No Scandinavian country is socialist. Sweden tried it in the 70s it wasn't a great time for them. What's your definition of socialist? Are you mixing socialism and Marxism? Are you American? It would appear you are the one that shares the American definition, they also think Scandinavia is socialist. Lol!! Can't even explain. They have a mixed economy not dissimilar to the UK but they are taxed heavier and have a culture of beliefs that one for all and all for one bot like us and America where the culture is me Thanks for demonstrating your superficial understanding, most of us had already figured that out. Right. You seem kind and intriguing. So high taxes = better social amenities for everyone Means they are more socialist than us. Sooooooo, we aren't wrong in saying that Scandinavian countries which lean more socialist and are happier prove your murderous theory wrong What does the definition of socialism in relation Scandinavia add to a discussion about the Islamist/socialist allegiance in Iran, other than another one of your pseudo-intellectual tangents. " Not answering or acknowledging anything then? You said something ridiculous, I tried to point out how ridiculous that was. That then has converged off topic granted. My apologies. But holding people to account for their ridiculousness is higher in my priority than ensuring we're on topic. Also conversations tend to drift | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp. Isabelle Oakeshott you know her, the one who writes for the telegraph and boning Dicky Tice of the right wing party Reform. Yeah that one. She seems to like living in an Islamic hell hole called Dubai There are distinctions between Islamic Iran and Islamic Dubai. Referring to Dubai as a hell hole compared to Iran just shows your political naivety. But hey, you filled the thread with yes or no responses. Can we at least take a moment to listen to those who actually make some sense? He said some other Islamic hell hole meaning that region I was pointing out that right wing pundits are dodging taxes by living in some of those Islamic countries. Yes or no responses?? No idea what your on about. I try and be nuanced and show life isn't one way or the other. But hey ho. I've actually lived in Dubai and holiday there. Sooooo You have made the situation even worse. Although you have lived there, you still perceive it as a hellhole. Why is that? Please provide a more detailed description rather than just a simple yes or no, so we can compare it with Iran. She is discussing the condition of women in Iran, not the issue of tax evaders." Bro what are you on about this yes or no.??? | |||
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"Muslims can't be against gays and women and vote left wing in one block. Sort your messaging out lads They don’t vote for the left because of the left’s stance on gays. They don’t care about that. They vote left because the left panders to them. Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example. Those happy Scandinavians proving your point? No Scandinavian country is socialist. Sweden tried it in the 70s it wasn't a great time for them. What's your definition of socialist? Are you mixing socialism and Marxism? Are you American? It would appear you are the one that shares the American definition, they also think Scandinavia is socialist. Lol!! Can't even explain. They have a mixed economy not dissimilar to the UK but they are taxed heavier and have a culture of beliefs that one for all and all for one bot like us and America where the culture is me Thanks for demonstrating your superficial understanding, most of us had already figured that out. Right. You seem kind and intriguing. So high taxes = better social amenities for everyone Means they are more socialist than us. Sooooooo, we aren't wrong in saying that Scandinavian countries which lean more socialist and are happier prove your murderous theory wrong What does the definition of socialism in relation Scandinavia add to a discussion about the Islamist/socialist allegiance in Iran, other than another one of your pseudo-intellectual tangents. Not answering or acknowledging anything then? You said something ridiculous, I tried to point out how ridiculous that was. That then has converged off topic granted. My apologies. But holding people to account for their ridiculousness is higher in my priority than ensuring we're on topic. Also conversations tend to drift Don't worry I'm sure most folk appreciate your obsessive need to "correct" every post from every contributor. It's good that you have a hobby. " Glad you explained and expressed your thoughts in a coherent manner | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp. Isabelle Oakeshott you know her, the one who writes for the telegraph and boning Dicky Tice of the right wing party Reform. Yeah that one. She seems to like living in an Islamic hell hole called Dubai There are distinctions between Islamic Iran and Islamic Dubai. Referring to Dubai as a hell hole compared to Iran just shows your political naivety. But hey, you filled the thread with yes or no responses. Can we at least take a moment to listen to those who actually make some sense? He said some other Islamic hell hole meaning that region I was pointing out that right wing pundits are dodging taxes by living in some of those Islamic countries. Yes or no responses?? No idea what your on about. I try and be nuanced and show life isn't one way or the other. But hey ho. I've actually lived in Dubai and holiday there. Sooooo You have made the situation even worse. Although you have lived there, you still perceive it as a hellhole. Why is that? Please provide a more detailed description rather than just a simple yes or no, so we can compare it with Iran. She is discussing the condition of women in Iran, not the issue of tax evaders. Bro what are you on about this yes or no.???" It means you are attempting to navigate between opposing views, yet no one perceives any rationale behind your statements. You cannot even draw a comparison between the circumstances in Dubai and Iran, so what she expressed was entirely reasonable. As I mentioned, let others handle it so that we can at least gain some insights | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp. Isabelle Oakeshott you know her, the one who writes for the telegraph and boning Dicky Tice of the right wing party Reform. Yeah that one. She seems to like living in an Islamic hell hole called Dubai There are distinctions between Islamic Iran and Islamic Dubai. Referring to Dubai as a hell hole compared to Iran just shows your political naivety. But hey, you filled the thread with yes or no responses. Can we at least take a moment to listen to those who actually make some sense? He said some other Islamic hell hole meaning that region I was pointing out that right wing pundits are dodging taxes by living in some of those Islamic countries. Yes or no responses?? No idea what your on about. I try and be nuanced and show life isn't one way or the other. But hey ho. I've actually lived in Dubai and holiday there. Sooooo You have made the situation even worse. Although you have lived there, you still perceive it as a hellhole. Why is that? Please provide a more detailed description rather than just a simple yes or no, so we can compare it with Iran. She is discussing the condition of women in Iran, not the issue of tax evaders. Bro what are you on about this yes or no.??? It means you are attempting to navigate between opposing views, yet no one perceives any rationale behind your statements. You cannot even draw a comparison between the circumstances in Dubai and Iran, so what she expressed was entirely reasonable. As I mentioned, let others handle it so that we can at least gain some insights" Bro, you just don't like what I'm saying. Iran and the mullahs are the worst of humanity. Dubai is great if you have money and your white Is that simple enough | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai " Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser. | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser." Bro. The Emiraties live behind walls. You have to be arrested or marry one to encounter an actual Emeratie. Whites are treated as special! Every Muslim you meet in UAE are from neighbouring countries. I can't speak for how other ethnicities are treated in Dubai. All I know is Filipinos passports were thrown away along with Nigerians | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser. Bro. The Emiraties live behind walls. You have to be arrested or marry one to encounter an actual Emeratie. Whites are treated as special! Every Muslim you meet in UAE are from neighbouring countries. I can't speak for how other ethnicities are treated in Dubai. All I know is Filipinos passports were thrown away along with Nigerians " I see you understand Arabian Peninsula Arab culture as well as you do Scandinavian politics. | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser. Bro. The Emiraties live behind walls. You have to be arrested or marry one to encounter an actual Emeratie. Whites are treated as special! Every Muslim you meet in UAE are from neighbouring countries. I can't speak for how other ethnicities are treated in Dubai. All I know is Filipinos passports were thrown away along with Nigerians I see you understand Arabian Peninsula Arab culture as well as you do Scandinavian politics." Top lols, trying to say I understand the peninsula is a stretch! I loved in Dubai about 15 years ago and still holiday there. So I sort of understand Dubai. But what about you furry Angus? What do you understand? Apart from making ridiculous comments? | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser. Bro. The Emiraties live behind walls. You have to be arrested or marry one to encounter an actual Emeratie. Whites are treated as special! Every Muslim you meet in UAE are from neighbouring countries. I can't speak for how other ethnicities are treated in Dubai. All I know is Filipinos passports were thrown away along with Nigerians I see you understand Arabian Peninsula Arab culture as well as you do Scandinavian politics. Top lols, trying to say I understand the peninsula is a stretch! I loved in Dubai about 15 years ago and still holiday there. So I sort of understand Dubai. But what about you furry Angus? What do you understand? Apart from making ridiculous comments?" Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser. Bro. The Emiraties live behind walls. You have to be arrested or marry one to encounter an actual Emeratie. Whites are treated as special! Every Muslim you meet in UAE are from neighbouring countries. I can't speak for how other ethnicities are treated in Dubai. All I know is Filipinos passports were thrown away along with Nigerians I see you understand Arabian Peninsula Arab culture as well as you do Scandinavian politics. Top lols, trying to say I understand the peninsula is a stretch! I loved in Dubai about 15 years ago and still holiday there. So I sort of understand Dubai. But what about you furry Angus? What do you understand? Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. " Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that? | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser.... ... Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that?" See above: "Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example." You: "Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?" | |||
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"It is not Austerity that has been the problem.. It is successive Governments pissing money up the tree. We always find money to help illegal migrants and furnish them with everything they need including housing while our children have to work hard to rent privately. They always find money to prop up their puppet regimes, but claim there is nothing in the pot to help us. And it is not even real money, do you actually think they go to their own safe and take the money out, no they go to someone else`s safe to take it out. If they even actually do that. It`s never real money, its just figures on a computer screen. " Love the fact he has start his weird incoherence with it's not .... "Austerity" Taking money away from people like you and give to the rich. EVERYTHING is because of austerity. If you stop paying to fix your home it doesn't make problems go away. It makes them more expensive. That's what austerity is! | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser.... ... Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that? See above: "Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example." You: "Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?"" Right.... So me saying that Scandinavian countries are happy and not murderous means I support Islamic death cults? | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser.... ... Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that? See above: "Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example." You: "Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?" Right.... So me saying that Scandinavian countries are happy and not murderous means I support Islamic death cults?" The Cathy Newman role has already been taken. | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser.... ... Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that? See above: "Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example." You: "Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?" Right.... So me saying that Scandinavian countries are happy and not murderous means I support Islamic death cults? The Cathy Newman role has already been taken. " Bro...... Others can read! This is embarrassing for you. | |||
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"If you want to experience white privilege go to Dubai Arab privilege. Whites are treated as lesser. Even other Muslims of different ethnicity are treated as lesser.... ... Apart from making ridiculous comments? Ridiculous would be comparing the Islamist/socialist alliance in Iran with Swedish "socialism" and thinking that's a gotcha. Blimey, you ok? At what point have I ever done that? See above: "Exactly. It's a pattern repeated around the word; align with socialists, see them as useful idiots to achieve power, execute them when power is achieved. The Iranian Regime was a perfect example." You: "Those happy Scandinavians proving your point?" Right.... So me saying that Scandinavian countries are happy and not murderous means I support Islamic death cults? The Cathy Newman role has already been taken. Bro...... Others can read! This is embarrassing for you. " Yes "bro" others can read. | |||
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"I apologise and realise this is off topic but it is interesting to me. How do you get from me saying that Scandinavian countries are socialist to me supporting Islamic extreme? Cathy Newman: "so what your saying is..." At no point did anything that I wrote say that, nor could anything that I wrote be reasonably inferred to have implied that. " Gas lighter in chief!!?!?!?! | |||
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"I apologise and realise this is off topic but it is interesting to me. How do you get from me saying that Scandinavian countries are socialist to me supporting Islamic extreme? Cathy Newman: "so what your saying is..." At no point did anything that I wrote say that, nor could anything that I wrote be reasonably inferred to have implied that. Gas lighter in chief!!?!?!?!" It's all written down what you've said and what you haven't!! Your a nothing. A no one. | |||
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"I apologise and realise this is off topic but it is interesting to me. How do you get from me saying that Scandinavian countries are socialist to me supporting Islamic extreme? Cathy Newman: "so what your saying is..." At no point did anything that I wrote say that, nor could anything that I wrote be reasonably inferred to have implied that. Gas lighter in chief!!?!?!?! It's all written down what you've said and what you haven't!! Your a nothing. A no one. " As you said: "Others can read". Others can scroll up. I see you are beginning to resort to ad hominems. | |||
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"I apologise and realise this is off topic but it is interesting to me. How do you get from me saying that Scandinavian countries are socialist to me supporting Islamic extreme? Cathy Newman: "so what your saying is..." At no point did anything that I wrote say that, nor could anything that I wrote be reasonably inferred to have implied that. Gas lighter in chief!!?!?!?! It's all written down what you've said and what you haven't!! Your a nothing. A no one. As you said: "Others can read". Others can scroll up. I see you are beginning to resort to ad hominems. " Indeed, scroll up people!! | |||
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"I apologise and realise this is off topic but it is interesting to me. How do you get from me saying that Scandinavian countries are socialist to me supporting Islamic extreme? Cathy Newman: "so what your saying is..." At no point did anything that I wrote say that, nor could anything that I wrote be reasonably inferred to have implied that. Gas lighter in chief!!?!?!?! It's all written down what you've said and what you haven't!! Your a nothing. A no one. As you said: "Others can read". Others can scroll up. I see you are beginning to resort to ad hominems. Indeed, scroll up people!!" Make it easy. Use (ctrl f) to search by user name. | |||
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"Can't imagine that the US would have ever entertained the ability for the UK to veto their use. " The bases used are listed as US bases, my completely uneducated guess is that they constitute‘American soil’ in the same way embassies are, so in theory they could just fly. However the airspace isn’t theirs, so they need to have permission… could be completely wrong but I can’t see any other reason Donny didn’t just fly. | |||
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"If I was a woman in Iran or some other Islamic hell hole I would pray to all the gods for the Americans or anyone else to come and bomb the place back to the primordial swamp." What a nice liberal attitude, and you would pray to all the gods which would take quite a long time. At least that would keep you from actually doing something to improve the situation. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab." Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others " Sorry I'm doing your job for you. There are more Arabs in France than Iran. By that logic an attack on France could be an attack on Arabs. 
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I'm sure you are feeling an affinity with a brother that also speaks with such confidence from a position of so little knowledge. Bet he appreciates your efforts.
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others Sorry I'm doing your job for you. There are more Arabs in France than Iran. By that logic an attack on France could be an attack on Arabs.
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Population of Iran is 92.4 million.
Some will identify as Arab, most as Persian, some as Kurds, theirs also other sub sects "Nice to see you can use google yet actual reinforce my point. Yes the per capita Arab population in the Iran (pop 92.4m) , is much lower than that in France (pop 69m). Arab isn't an identity, it's an ethnicity. But then you are fond of grouping people, based on superficial appearance, as a homogeneous group with your "black and brown people" rather than recognise their individuality. | |||
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Population of Iran is 92.4 million.
Some will identify as Arab, most as Persian, some as Kurds, theirs also other sub sects
Nice to see you can use google yet actual reinforce my point. Yes the per capita Arab population in the Iran (pop 92.4m) , is much lower than that in France (pop 69m).
Arab isn't an identity, it's an ethnicity. But then you are fond of grouping people, based on superficial appearance, as a homogeneous group with your "black and brown people" rather than recognise their individuality. "No Google here, done from rote some podcast or another. Please explain your "black and brown people" not recognising them as individuals? With examples! | |||
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"I have for quite some time now simply not communicated with people who support a pedo files, rap-st, convicted fraudsters and mass murderers , why anyone would bother to attempt to debate with people who have such an absence of morality eludes me. How many Arabs live in France is no concern of mine not being racist in the least. The number of Arable who reside in Iran is close to 2 million, so when these Zionists bomb anywhere in Iran they can be sure that they are killing Arabs, not that they care as Netanyahu stated that he has wanted to declare war on Iran for 40 years. I am well aware that the majority of people in Iran are Persian but I fail to see what bearing that has on anything that I said. I never asked anyone who supports the pedo, rap-st, fraudster, draft dodger and mass murder’er to do anything for me, I am well able to speak for myself." Quite right! Never let facts get in the way of your rage.  | |||
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Actually not, just concerned citizens voicing opinions, and debating.
Pretty British things "Yes, and there only one voice, YOURS Left wing w⚓️ | |||
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I'm sure you are feeling an affinity with a brother that also speaks with such confidence from a position of so little knowledge. Bet he appreciates your efforts.
Population of Iran is 92.4 million.
Some will identify as Arab, most as Persian, some as Kurds, theirs also other sub sects
Nice to see you can use google yet actual reinforce my point. Yes the per capita Arab population in the Iran (pop 92.4m) , is much lower than that in France (pop 69m).
Arab isn't an identity, it's an ethnicity. But then you are fond of grouping people, based on superficial appearance, as a homogeneous group with your "black and brown people" rather than recognise their individuality.
No Google here, done from rote some podcast or another.
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others Sorry I'm doing your job for you. There are more Arabs in France than Iran. By that logic an attack on France could be an attack on Arabs.
I'm sure you are feeling an affinity with a brother that also speaks with such confidence from a position of so little knowledge. Bet he appreciates your efforts.
Population of Iran is 92.4 million.
Some will identify as Arab, most as Persian, some as Kurds, theirs also other sub sects
Nice to see you can use google yet actual reinforce my point. Yes the per capita Arab population in the Iran (pop 92.4m) , is much lower than that in France (pop 69m).
Arab isn't an identity, it's an ethnicity. But then you are fond of grouping people, based on superficial appearance, as a homogeneous group with your "black and brown people" rather than recognise their individuality.
No Google here, done from rote some podcast or another.
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others Sorry I'm doing your job for you. There are more Arabs in France than Iran. By that logic an attack on France could be an attack on Arabs.
I'm sure you are feeling an affinity with a brother that also speaks with such confidence from a position of so little knowledge. Bet he appreciates your efforts.
Population of Iran is 92.4 million.
Some will identify as Arab, most as Persian, some as Kurds, theirs also other sub sects
Nice to see you can use google yet actual reinforce my point. Yes the per capita Arab population in the Iran (pop 92.4m) , is much lower than that in France (pop 69m).
Arab isn't an identity, it's an ethnicity. But then you are fond of grouping people, based on superficial appearance, as a homogeneous group with your "black and brown people" rather than recognise their individuality.
No Google here, done from rote some podcast or another.
Please explain your "black and brown people" not recognising them as individuals? With examples!
It's still on your bingo card. BTW should we keep "Tufton Street" or has that one aged out?
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"I am well aware that the majority of people in Iran are Persian but I fail to see what bearing that has on anything that I said. ." Rubbish. Why didn’t your original statement say Iranian/Persian in the first place then? It makes no sense. Why state Arab when they are a tiny percentage of 1-2% of Iran? And as a result you unwittingly appear to be none too concerned about 99% of the population of Iran by just focusing on Arabs! You’re always being pulled up on inaccurate & questionable statements you make. | |||
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" Deflection again? Not like you I can't compete with "Sweden". Squirming isn't a good look. Engagement and taking responsibility is much better. Yes dear!. As you say Others can read, and they can scroll. I would add they can click on the green arrow too. Tangent, ad hominem, now DARVO. How much time do you spend online?" About 1/10 the time that you do. Do you want me to go away, so you can fill up to the magic 175 with some zingers. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't " Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. | |||
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" Deflection again? Not like you I can't compete with "Sweden". Squirming isn't a good look. Engagement and taking responsibility is much better. Yes dear!. As you say Others can read, and they can scroll. I would add they can click on the green arrow too. Tangent, ad hominem, now DARVO. How much time do you spend online? About 1/10 the time that you do. Do you want me to go away, so you can fill up to the magic 175 with some zingers." Wow!!! Celebrate, you actually answered a question with a direct answer. No you don't need to go away for me to perform "zingers". Engagement, less deflection and explaining who Cathy is and her relevance to almost every post you comment on. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way." Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. | |||
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"That’s the closest you will ever get from these pedo supporters, in short no answer!" Bit rich from a radical who follows a prophet who married a 6 yr old and consummated when 9 yrs! At least he had the decency to wait 3 years. 🤣🤣 | |||
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"I am an atheist you extremely stupid person and don’t follow any prophet. By your morality he should have waited until she was 13 like your hero🤮" Jerry Lee Lewis? Great balls of fire! | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi." Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them? | |||
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"I am an atheist you extremely stupid person and don’t follow any prophet. By your morality he should have waited until she was 13 like your hero🤮" Oh, a radical atheist?? I referred to the prophet’s ‘decency’ in my previous post, not mine. Do keep up. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them?" Boy oh boy!! The Kurdish people of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Turkey all identify as Kurdish first and then they explain where they are from. Followed usually by what brought them to Britain. I have many friends who are Kurdish from those countries. It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. | |||
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"Who the bloody hell is Cathy? And what is that reference he's obsessed with? If others can scroll, so can you. Or is this another convenient misremembering. What!? You explain who Cathy is and her relevance in this thread?" Cathy Newman C4 news presenter, famed for her "So what you are saying is.." interview technique where she deliberately misrepresents the interviewee to attempt to frame him as having an affiliation, belief or nefarious intent, based on her misrepresentation of what he just said, while ignoring any balance or nuance or invitation to a free-thinking exchange of ideas. Examples here are: any attempt to discuss the conflict with Iran, without blind condemnation, is seen as a wholesale endorsement of Trump and his presidency. Challenging an assertion that cooperation from Starmer demonstrates his supposed hatred of Arabs, invites condemnations as an amoral Trumper. Hence: OK Cathy. I look forward to seeing your future use of the analogy. It is very relevant here as most threads involve some Cathy Newmanism. She's normally very good, think she was trying to do a Paxman and it didn't quite work out. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them? Boy oh boy!! The Kurdish people of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Turkey all identify as Kurdish first and then they explain where they are from. Followed usually by what brought them to Britain. I have many friends who are Kurdish from those countries. It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. " BOy oh Boyyyyyyyyyyy Didn’t you mention that some individuals speak Kurdish in Iran? Therefore, I am discussing them. i am talking about kurds in sannadaj, ghorveh , baku ,kermanshah,and many others ..... you are trying so hard ... | |||
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"Who the bloody hell is Cathy? And what is that reference he's obsessed with? If others can scroll, so can you. Or is this another convenient misremembering. What!? You explain who Cathy is and her relevance in this thread? Cathy Newman C4 news presenter, famed for her "So what you are saying is.." interview technique where she deliberately misrepresents the interviewee to attempt to frame him as having an affiliation, belief or nefarious intent, based on her misrepresentation of what he just said, while ignoring any balance or nuance or invitation to a free-thinking exchange of ideas. Examples here are: any attempt to discuss the conflict with Iran, without blind condemnation, is seen as a wholesale endorsement of Trump and his presidency. Challenging an assertion that cooperation from Starmer demonstrates his supposed hatred of Arabs, invites condemnations as an amoral Trumper. Hence: OK Cathy. I look forward to seeing your future use of the analogy. It is very relevant here as most threads involve some Cathy Newmanism. She's normally very good, think she was trying to do a Paxman and it didn't quite work out. " Thanks for the explanation | |||
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"Who the bloody hell is Cathy? And what is that reference he's obsessed with? If others can scroll, so can you. Or is this another convenient misremembering. What!? You explain who Cathy is and her relevance in this thread? Cathy Newman C4 news presenter, famed for her "So what you are saying is.." interview technique where she deliberately misrepresents the interviewee to attempt to frame him as having an affiliation, belief or nefarious intent, based on her misrepresentation of what he just said, while ignoring any balance or nuance or invitation to a free-thinking exchange of ideas. Examples here are: any attempt to discuss the conflict with Iran, without blind condemnation, is seen as a wholesale endorsement of Trump and his presidency. Challenging an assertion that cooperation from Starmer demonstrates his supposed hatred of Arabs, invites condemnations as an amoral Trumper. Hence: OK Cathy. I look forward to seeing your future use of the analogy. It is very relevant here as most threads involve some Cathy Newmanism. She's normally very good, think she was trying to do a Paxman and it didn't quite work out. Thanks for the explanation " You're welcome. Do you think I should explain the Paxman reference or will people get that? | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them? Boy oh boy!! The Kurdish people of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Turkey all identify as Kurdish first and then they explain where they are from. Followed usually by what brought them to Britain. I have many friends who are Kurdish from those countries. It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. BOy oh Boyyyyyyyyyyy Didn’t you mention that some individuals speak Kurdish in Iran? Therefore, I am discussing them. i am talking about kurds in sannadaj, ghorveh , baku ,kermanshah,and many others ..... you are trying so hard ..." Yes, because my mate who is Kurdish and from Iran speaks, Kurdish, Farsi, Arabic, English and Welsh | |||
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" It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. " Yes, but the Russians wouldn’t say they want to wipe out the Welsh if they were so inclined in an attack on Britain, they’d say they want to wipe out the British. Which is essentially what shirty lifter said in comparison, even giving him the benefit of about 5 times Welsh in UK as a % to the tiny Arab population in Iran. It makes no coherent sense. | |||
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" It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. Yes, but the Russians wouldn’t say they want to wipe out the Welsh if they were so inclined in an attack on Britain, they’d say they want to wipe out the British. Which is essentially what shirty lifter said in comparison, even giving him the benefit of about 5 times Welsh in UK as a % to the tiny Arab population in Iran. It makes no coherent sense." I'm not engaging with you untill you quote in context. It's dangerous to pull bits out, that suit your narrative. | |||
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"George Osbourne austerity has truly left us vulnerable in all sorts of ways " Philip Hammond, the multimillionaire accountant - as Secretary of State for Defence, Foreign Secretary and the Chancellor - gave life to the old saying "he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing". He compounded everything Osborne did, not that I have any form of affection for Osborne. Hammond was despised when I worked in Whitehall. | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them? Boy oh boy!! The Kurdish people of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Turkey all identify as Kurdish first and then they explain where they are from. Followed usually by what brought them to Britain. I have many friends who are Kurdish from those countries. It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. BOy oh Boyyyyyyyyyyy Didn’t you mention that some individuals speak Kurdish in Iran? Therefore, I am discussing them. i am talking about kurds in sannadaj, ghorveh , baku ,kermanshah,and many others ..... you are trying so hard ... Yes, because my mate who is Kurdish and from Iran speaks, Kurdish, Farsi, Arabic, English and Welsh " Congratulations to him; it is irrelevant how many languages he speaks. lol | |||
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"George Osbourne austerity has truly left us vulnerable in all sorts of ways Philip Hammond, the multimillionaire accountant - as Secretary of State for Defence, Foreign Secretary and the Chancellor - gave life to the old saying "he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing". He compounded everything Osborne did, not that I have any form of affection for Osborne. Hammond was despised when I worked in Whitehall." Indeed, 14 years of not investing or fixing anything, hospitals, schools. Councils, army, navy etc etc has left the UK in a perilous state!! The conservatives and their ideology should never be allowed any where near lower again! Investing in just in case scenarios is a worth while thing! It's the same with this labour government cutting foreign aid. Foreign aid keeps us safer, investing to make other countries stable and safe reduces the numbers of refugees | |||
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"What the fucks this post got to do with fabguys, just sad people, chat on Facebook and X leave this site to guys looking for fun" But here you are, sticking your oar into a conversation which you claim doesn’t interest you. I understand that there are about 165 topics so you are not spoiled for choice! | |||
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"I will address what the OP posted. Starmer once again demonstrated his total absence of balls in agreeing to the Americans using UK basses to load their bombers, to support Israel in furthering its genocide against the people of Iran. Starmer once again demonstrates his hatred of the Arab people in involving the UK in this stupid war which Israel and America has absolutely no possibility of winning. The Zionist Israel supporters will delight in murdering thousand of Arab civilians, but Iran has 94 million on a land mass 5 times larger than the UK and highly educated. Even the deranged lunatic pedo now realises the impossibility of success in this crazy venture. In no way should the UK be involved in this lunacy, but thanks to Starmer we are. Iranians aren't Arab. Some are some aren't. Nice to see you correcting others No they aren’t Arabs . Learn a bit more Some are some aren't Iranians are not ethnically Arab; they do not even speak Arabic. you are, attempting to sell us your orange as if it were an apple. It simply doesn't work that way. Again, some are some aren't. Some do speak Arabic, some speak Kurdish, some speak other dying languages most speaks Farsi. Kurds are recognised as an Iranic ethnic group. Why is it so difficult for you to accept this? The more you insist on your viewpoint, the more you expose your embarrassment. Repeating the same argument does not validate your position. Consider if someone approached you claiming that the Welsh are Arabs and continued to propagate such nonsense; how would you respond to them? Boy oh boy!! The Kurdish people of Iran, Syria, Iraq and Turkey all identify as Kurdish first and then they explain where they are from. Followed usually by what brought them to Britain. I have many friends who are Kurdish from those countries. It's like me saying I'm Welsh a part of Great Britain. BOy oh Boyyyyyyyyyyy Didn’t you mention that some individuals speak Kurdish in Iran? Therefore, I am discussing them. i am talking about kurds in sannadaj, ghorveh , baku ,kermanshah,and many others ..... you are trying so hard ... Yes, because my mate who is Kurdish and from Iran speaks, Kurdish, Farsi, Arabic, English and Welsh Congratulations to him; it is irrelevant how many languages he speaks. lol " Right but they'll be taught Farsi and speak Kurdish at home. The same as the Welsh boy failed to kill the Welsh language!!! You can't stop people doing what they want in the privacy of their home. Even in Iran | |||
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"This is all total nonsense, and I have no idea what it has to do with Starmer allowing the yanks to use UK basses to arm their bombers to attack Iran which is the purpose of this thread." You didn't know that Iran isn't Arabia, and seems you don't know that the US has US bases in the UK. They don't need to borrow ours. Could I suggest that you're not quite getting two viewpoints or balance just because you watch both BBC and RTE.  | |||
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