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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke." Do they? You know most people? So you don't think it was an unofficial bid? | |||
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"Done well doesn't mean done right. How anyone could back any lying cheating politician beats me as they think it's ok to say, oh I'm sorry. I didn't realise, I made a mistake, it's someone else's fault, I was wrongly advised etc bollocks. An apology is meaningless. Caught in the lights" You mean about her mortgage? I'd agree she hadn't gone far enough to check, but then how would she know? It's like us getting that job and buying a house, you think everything is sorted but actually...... She seems a decent sort and as much as I acknowledge your doubts, I'm willing to accept it was a mistake. | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well" Never underestimate the British publics liking for being talked down to by some over privileged toff, rather than championing one of their own who ‘ got up themselves’ I don’t understand.. | |||
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"Let's face it, she has big knockers, always a vote catcher..even if she's not quite sure about the rules on property" Vile | |||
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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke. Do they? You know most people? So you don't think it was an unofficial bid?" Obviously I don't know 'most people' but then again neither do you. Opinion polls suggest she is not that popular. Opinion polls also suggest a sizeable majority want curbs on immigration, especially illegal ones. She would play straight into the hands of the Faragite extremists. Do you really want that? She may be a nice person and well meaning but she does come across as a bit tarty and dense. I guess she would like to be PM but then again so would dozens of other MPs with delusions of grandeur. | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well Never underestimate the British publics liking for being talked down to by some over privileged toff, rather than championing one of their own who ‘ got up themselves’ I don’t understand.." I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down | |||
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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke. Do they? You know most people? So you don't think it was an unofficial bid? Obviously I don't know 'most people' but then again neither do you. Opinion polls suggest she is not that popular. Opinion polls also suggest a sizeable majority want curbs on immigration, especially illegal ones. She would play straight into the hands of the Faragite extremists. Do you really want that? She may be a nice person and well meaning but she does come across as a bit tarty and dense. I guess she would like to be PM but then again so would dozens of other MPs with delusions of grandeur. " Obviously, that's why I only ever speak for me not most people!! They want curbs yes but retrospective applying laws is an awful standard to set! When we voted for change we don't vote for more cruelty after Braverman! Rayner has this right | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well" One of whom? | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down " Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill! | |||
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" I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom?" One of the feckless who got lucky by being a gobby trade unionist. Single mother at 16, on benefits in social housing, left school with no qualifications… | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill!" You really are a repulsive, misogynistic, spineless shit for brains. No doubt on here cos every woman you've ever known has looked at you like you're something they've trod in. A geriatric incel | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill! You really are a repulsive, misogynistic, spineless shit for brains. No doubt on here cos every woman you've ever known has looked at you like you're something they've trod in. A geriatric incel" I forgot attention seeking and shit taste in music | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill!" You can see it here. Hates people who have bettered themselves | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom?" Working class people brought up on council estates | |||
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" I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? One of the feckless who got lucky by being a gobby trade unionist. Single mother at 16, on benefits in social housing, left school with no qualifications… " Definitely see here | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates" Who are the working class, council estate "us"? | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates Who are the working class, council estate "us"?" It's a pretty clear definition. If you were brought up on a council estate your like I was your working class You can take issue with me definition all you want. But the purposes of this conversation I'm equating working class with council estate, me and Angela Rayner. | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates Who are the working class, council estate "us"? It's a pretty clear definition. If you were brought up on a council estate your like I was your working class You can take issue with me definition all you want. But the purposes of this conversation I'm equating working class with council estate, me and Angela Rayner." It was the "us" I was seeking clarity on, whether that was all of Fabguys, or a subsection that you had identified? | |||
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"But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? ." No I cannot, imagine her flashing her great big ginger growler ‘Basic Instinct’ style at President Trump, like with Boris at the dispatch box, when the President has the delightfully elegant Milania as his wife. | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time." Gar left . Lol!!! | |||
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"But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? . No I cannot, imagine her flashing her great big ginger growler ‘Basic Instinct’ style at President Trump, like with Boris at the dispatch box, when the President has the delightfully elegant Milania as his wife. " Vile!! | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates Who are the working class, council estate "us"? It's a pretty clear definition. If you were brought up on a council estate your like I was your working class You can take issue with me definition all you want. But the purposes of this conversation I'm equating working class with council estate, me and Angela Rayner. It was the "us" I was seeking clarity on, whether that was all of Fabguys, or a subsection that you had identified?" Look down all you want!! But theirs talent in them estates! | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates Who are the working class, council estate "us"? It's a pretty clear definition. If you were brought up on a council estate your like I was your working class You can take issue with me definition all you want. But the purposes of this conversation I'm equating working class with council estate, me and Angela Rayner. It was the "us" I was seeking clarity on, whether that was all of Fabguys, or a subsection that you had identified?" I took it as being a mistaken suggestion that she was Welsh... She actually comes from the North West. | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time." The snobbery | |||
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"I think the party would back her, she has great influence within the party shown by how the Mandelson debate turned against the government. You watch how her voice will make the government back down on immigration reforms. I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? Working class people brought up on council estates Who are the working class, council estate "us"? It's a pretty clear definition. If you were brought up on a council estate your like I was your working class You can take issue with me definition all you want. But the purposes of this conversation I'm equating working class with council estate, me and Angela Rayner. It was the "us" I was seeking clarity on, whether that was all of Fabguys, or a subsection that you had identified? I took it as being a mistaken suggestion that she was Welsh... She actually comes from the North West. " All Welsh people are below the English? | |||
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" I took it as being a mistaken suggestion that she was Welsh... She actually comes from the North West. " She’s the Manc, potty mouth version of Nessa I guess! | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time. The snobbery " Absolutely! "Dragged herself up". Typical Tory attitude | |||
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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke." And farage isnt ..even tho he is.. sun mail and express readers are fucking everywgere | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time." I definitely can see her as PM. And wish her well!! I'm just not sure that was the firing shot. I'm glad her and tony Vaughan are tackling Shabana and her cruel policies | |||
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"She's a wonderful ambassador to pull your boot straps up and work hard to get places. But realise that you don't get anywhere without society and taxes!" The bloody cheek! Why didn’t the gobshite pay her taxes then?? Don’t come back with any pathetic excuses about accountants, too busy etc. That don’t wash with the rev & law. An individual is always responsible for their own tax affairs. The bint should never be allowed back to legislate for the country. Mandelson prime example why not. | |||
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"She's a wonderful ambassador to pull your boot straps up and work hard to get places. But realise that you don't get anywhere without society and taxes! The bloody cheek! Why didn’t the gobshite pay her taxes then?? Don’t come back with any pathetic excuses about accountants, too busy etc. That don’t wash with the rev & law. An individual is always responsible for their own tax affairs. The bint should never be allowed back to legislate for the country. Mandelson prime example why not. " Lol! Never made a mistake? The ethics advisor actually found that although she hadn't done anything wrong herself she should have gone further because of her position. Fairs, and she resigned, she's looking to correct the matter. Comparing her to Mandelson is way off | |||
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" And farage isnt ..even tho he is.. sun mail and express readers are fucking everywgere" Who the hell buys or even reads newspapers in 2026??? | |||
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"Imagine the bile from her mouth had a Deputy-Tory PM did as she did! You'd never hear the last of it! I hear shouting of Scum!, Resign! and a couple of pages of outrage waffle in the Daily Mirror. Taxes for thee but not for me. " Except it isn't. Our system works. She has to pay her taxes it was an oversight and she's correcting it | |||
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" And farage isnt ..even tho he is.. sun mail and express readers are fucking everywgere Who the hell buys or even reads newspapers in 2026???" Buy it or not it permeates social discourse through the morning TV shows. Even if you don't watch them people you talk to will. So yes it has an influence on society | |||
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" Lol! Never made a mistake? " With tax matters absolutely never. Had I done so in one earlier career I had I would have lost that career as it was/is a fatal transgression for that sector. What’s so different about Angela? In fact, it should be more fatal as she’s a legislator. | |||
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" Lol! Never made a mistake? With tax matters absolutely never. Had I done so in one earlier career I had I would have lost that career as it was/is a fatal transgression for that sector. What’s so different about Angela? In fact, it should be more fatal as she’s a legislator." She was given the wrong advice and should have double checked. She is correcting the matter. I don't see the issue Jeremy Hunt forgot to tell the tax man about blocks of flats!! | |||
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" I do acknowledge that her polling ratings with the public is low. Which does surprise me, because she's one of us done well One of whom? One of the feckless who got lucky by being a gobby trade unionist. Single mother at 16, on benefits in social housing, left school with no qualifications… " See??? | |||
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" Lol! Never made a mistake? With tax matters absolutely never. I don't see the issue !" Of course you don’t. | |||
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" Lol! Never made a mistake? With tax matters absolutely never. I don't see the issue ! Of course you don’t." Yowzers!! Editing things out of context. One way to shut down debate. Dangerous stuff | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time. The snobbery Absolutely! "Dragged herself up". Typical Tory attitude " Not snobbery but honesty. Could be a Toru attitude but not a bad one. I admire anyone who gets on with life, improves their 'lot' as long as they do it out of hard work and ambition rather than devious means. Better than the inverted snobbery of the left which is usually fueled by hatred and greeness of envy. | |||
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"youtube.com/shorts/M2HoPkm1ouQ (She's got the moves) Labour's front bench is far duller for her absence. And shakin Starmer is rightfully terrified of her. " Is this a yes? She's fired the trigger? | |||
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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke. And farage isnt ..even tho he is.. sun mail and express readers are fucking everywgere" To me Farage is a joke and a nasty, dangerous and unpleasant joke at that. Totally false and totally stage managed. He fools the gullible with this artificial 'man of the people persona'. He's anything but. A grifter of the first order only interested in his bank balance, his over-inflated ego and his elitist friends. I may not like Ms Rayner's politics but she is far more genuine than he will ever be. | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time. The snobbery Absolutely! "Dragged herself up". Typical Tory attitude Not snobbery but honesty. Could be a Toru attitude but not a bad one. I admire anyone who gets on with life, improves their 'lot' as long as they do it out of hard work and ambition rather than devious means. Better than the inverted snobbery of the left which is usually fueled by hatred and greeness of envy." Your post drips of snobbery "dragged herself" "dubious youth" Just a working class girl who happened to have kid when she was 16. Like many other of the time. She's happened to make it to deputy prime minister! She loves a drink and a dance the same as most. She speaks the most. She's an all round food egg. Bla bla bla about her fuck up, we all fuck up! | |||
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"youtube.com/shorts/M2HoPkm1ouQ (She's got the moves) Labour's front bench is far duller for her absence. And shakin Starmer is rightfully terrified of her. Is this a yes? She's fired the trigger?" It's a 'No' .... She's keeping her powder dry for now. Just poking Starmer up the arse with the barrel ... safety catch on. | |||
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"youtube.com/shorts/M2HoPkm1ouQ (She's got the moves) Labour's front bench is far duller for her absence. And shakin Starmer is rightfully terrified of her. Is this a yes? She's fired the trigger? It's a 'No' .... She's keeping her powder dry for now. Just poking Starmer up the arse with the barrel ... safety catch on. " Interesting, I thought the speech was more aimed towards Shabana than Keir and towards her natural voters and greens | |||
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"To me Farage is a joke and a nasty, dangerous and unpleasant joke at that. Totally false and totally stage managed. He fools the gullible with this artificial 'man of the people persona'. He's anything but. A grifter of the first order only interested in his bank balance, his over-inflated ego and his elitist friends. I may not like Ms Rayner's politics but she is far more genuine than he will ever be." Thanks, I wish more people even if they're not natural lefties could be as clear-sighted as you about Farage. | |||
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"Not really. A bit of 'pre May elections sabre rattling'. If Starmer does fall on his sword I daresay she will put her name forward but would the party back her? Can't see her winning an election as most people think she's a joke. And farage isnt ..even tho he is.. sun mail and express readers are fucking everywgere To me Farage is a joke and a nasty, dangerous and unpleasant joke at that. Totally false and totally stage managed. He fools the gullible with this artificial 'man of the people persona'. He's anything but. A grifter of the first order only interested in his bank balance, his over-inflated ego and his elitist friends. I may not like Ms Rayner's politics but she is far more genuine than he will ever be." 👏 👏 👏 | |||
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"youtube.com/shorts/M2HoPkm1ouQ (She's got the moves) Labour's front bench is far duller for her absence. And shakin Starmer is rightfully terrified of her. Is this a yes? She's fired the trigger? It's a 'No' .... She's keeping her powder dry for now. Just poking Starmer up the arse with the barrel ... safety catch on. Interesting, I thought the speech was more aimed towards Shabana than Keir and towards her natural voters and greens " Exactly ... Triggering ... without having to squeeze the trigger. There's only one shot in the barrel ... and it really does have to count when she pulls it. | |||
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"youtube.com/shorts/M2HoPkm1ouQ (She's got the moves) Labour's front bench is far duller for her absence. And shakin Starmer is rightfully terrified of her. Is this a yes? She's fired the trigger? It's a 'No' .... She's keeping her powder dry for now. Just poking Starmer up the arse with the barrel ... safety catch on. Interesting, I thought the speech was more aimed towards Shabana than Keir and towards her natural voters and greens Exactly ... Triggering ... without having to squeeze the trigger. There's only one shot in the barrel ... and it really does have to count when she pulls it. " Yeah, I agree, the timing is off too. Keir has had one of his best months since it went down hill with the winter fuel announcement. But the speech was strong against Shabana, I suppose she's showing ankle but not triggering the race | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time. The snobbery Absolutely! "Dragged herself up". Typical Tory attitude Not snobbery but honesty. Could be a Toru attitude but not a bad one. I admire anyone who gets on with life, improves their 'lot' as long as they do it out of hard work and ambition rather than devious means. Better than the inverted snobbery of the left which is usually fueled by hatred and greeness of envy. Your post drips of snobbery "dragged herself" "dubious youth" Just a working class girl who happened to have kid when she was 16. Like many other of the time. She's happened to make it to deputy prime minister! She loves a drink and a dance the same as most. She speaks the most. She's an all round food egg. Bla bla bla about her fuck up, we all fuck up! " Laughing out loud, Mr Roath. We really can't win with you. Tried to be positive. Even tried to praise her even though I don't agree with her politics. But you, with your inverted snobbery get all hot under the collar and see red | |||
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"Perhaps she is to be admired since she has dragged herself up from he dubious youth to being an MP, a cabinet minister and even, for awhile DPM. She may also be a nice person. Certainly got more personality than the current incumbent of No 10. But prime minister? Can you seriously see her on the world stage? Plus what would she bring to the country? A few failed outdated far-left policies that would take us back 40 or 50 years! Plus, as I said earlier, the Faragite bubble, which appears to be waning a bit, would re-inflate big time. The snobbery Absolutely! "Dragged herself up". Typical Tory attitude Not snobbery but honesty. Could be a Toru attitude but not a bad one. I admire anyone who gets on with life, improves their 'lot' as long as they do it out of hard work and ambition rather than devious means. Better than the inverted snobbery of the left which is usually fueled by hatred and greeness of envy. Your post drips of snobbery "dragged herself" "dubious youth" Just a working class girl who happened to have kid when she was 16. Like many other of the time. She's happened to make it to deputy prime minister! She loves a drink and a dance the same as most. She speaks the most. She's an all round food egg. Bla bla bla about her fuck up, we all fuck up! Laughing out loud, Mr Roath. We really can't win with you. Tried to be positive. Even tried to praise her even though I don't agree with her politics. But you, with your inverted snobbery get all hot under the collar and see red Inverted snobbery? It's not me denigrating a women who who's done well for herself. You don't have to like her politics to admire how well she's done. | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill! You really are a repulsive, misogynistic, spineless shit for brains. No doubt on here cos every woman you've ever known has looked at you like you're something they've trod in. A geriatric incel" Blimey... handbags, play nicely gurls, it's just a discussion on politics; not War and Peace! | |||
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" I think there's something in this. People hate someone from their own class because their so used to toffs speaking down Hang on a minute, more than once her lefty colleagues have said Ang should be respected for opening her legs at 16 for some dullard to blow his beans up her & then she brought up her kids in a doss house as a single mother on benefits! And she’s behind the astronomical welfare bill!" What a revolting person you are ! Get a life and stop hating others. | |||
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