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"Trying to say one religion should not pray at Trafalgar Square is insane!! This is not the days of Mary I!! We have freedom of prayer and freedom of expression!! Would you stop Christmas prayers at that venue?" As you've just stated we have freedom of expression, and some have expressed their opinion on something you don't agree with | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics." No they haven't. They've been arrested for imposing their beliefs over people's dignity on choosing | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven't. They've been arrested for imposing their beliefs over people's dignity on choosing " A bit like taking over Trafalgar Square to impose your religious beliefs on people shopping for new pants. | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven't. They've been arrested for imposing their beliefs over people's dignity on choosing A bit like taking over Trafalgar Square to impose your religious beliefs on people shopping for new pants. " You really are the golden goose. Sorrywhatpardon | |||
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"Next time there's Christmas carols under the tree at Trafalgar I'll remind you of this????" It's not about any particular religion it's about seeking permits and accepting limitations on location, timing, crowd-control and avoiding causing an obstruction. | |||
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"Surprise! Surprise! Another 'right bashing thread from the honorable member for Roath. I'm nominally Christian and I still think of the UK as a nominally Christian country although the majority these days are probably atheist, or agnostic or never give religion a second thought. I'm not greatly in favour of any public religious display from any religion especially if likely to cause offence or discord. We have plenty of churches, temples, synagogues mosques etc for religious ceremonies and practices. Obviously some religious processions will take place in public and very few, other than the Scrooges amongst us, object to carol singing at Christmas. I understand Mr 'Welsh is a foreign language' Farage wants religious outside events banned. Fortunately he has not got the power to do so and hopefully never will." I think, despite the insults and long winded paragraphs, we agree! | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali!" Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics." No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. " Who's that? All regions are wrong in my opinion. But that doesn't give me the right to tell any religion not to perform traditions. The Muslim people of London or anywhere should be allowed to pray and brake fast at Trafalgar Square. Christians should pray and sing during Easter and Christmas under the Trafalgar tree. Diwali should have their lights Passover their candles Me ......I'm allowed to respect that and not attend | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts" Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. " To be specific, the problem is with the strongly fundamentalist groups within Islam who take the teachings literally. There are moderates who follow that faith and have no problem with gays etc. Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state." Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali!" And at Easter you may see Christian’s processing through streets dragging a Cross. | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. To be specific, the problem is with the strongly fundamentalist groups within Islam who take the teachings literally. There are moderates who follow that faith and have no problem with gays etc. Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. " This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent." No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! And at Easter you may see Christian’s processing through streets dragging a Cross." Personally, I don't like it. It's only a short step from there to the Orange marches etc. I thought we were trying to move away from all that sectarian nonsense. | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. To be specific, the problem is with the strongly fundamentalist groups within Islam who take the teachings literally. There are moderates who follow that faith and have no problem with gays etc. Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly " It's absolutely right. Just check your facts. I'll be waiting. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! And at Easter you may see Christian’s processing through streets dragging a Cross. Personally, I don't like it. It's only a short step from there to the Orange marches etc. I thought we were trying to move away from all that sectarian nonsense." And that's fine! But for a front bench conservative to come out with a weird reform comment is wild!!! | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation " Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. To be specific, the problem is with the strongly fundamentalist groups within Islam who take the teachings literally. There are moderates who follow that faith and have no problem with gays etc. Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly It's absolutely right. Just check your facts. I'll be waiting." I have many friends who are Muslim I've been to many Islamic countries The people don't believe that gays should be killed There is a subsect of nutters that do That's also true for western Christian democracies I | |||
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"I don't actually believe in freedom of religion. Last week in Scotland religious bigots voted to continue to let terminally ill people die in agony to sate their religious sadism. The brand of religion you refer to is even more evil." Love this! | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... " For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn " You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. ... ...Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly " Jesus! and Allah! The ego on this guy. 
So now you know how they should read the faith, and they are just doing it wrong.
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself." Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. ... ...Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly Jesus! and Allah! The ego on this guy.
So now you know how they should read the faith, and they are just doing it wrong.
OK. "The same as I know my faith is wrong by saying "Man shall no lay with man" Both wrong , both written 2000 years ago Most Christians and Muslims I meet are more enlightened | |||
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"I don't actually believe in freedom of religion. Last week in Scotland religious bigots voted to continue to let terminally ill people die in agony to sate their religious sadism. The brand of religion you refer to is even more evil." How's that working out in Canada. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle!" You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali!Are illegal immigrants invited guests...of course they aren't...Royal Navy needs to enforce a blockade of the Channel Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle!" | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible " Interesting post What makes migrants incompatible? Their people? They, eat drink and fuck? I'm living in a backwards world? The state invites them through work projects that you voted for via Brexit (Australian points style)? The best of British has always been to accept that for the good of the country we need happy workers, no matter the colour or who they pray to. I put it to you. You are unbritish!! You hate our progress and success thanks to migrants. You are the bigot and holding us back | |||
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"Royal Navy needs to immediately enforce a blockade of the Channel to stop this invasion!!!" Lol that's not what the navy is for | |||
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"Completely unacceptable Trafalgar Square to be used like this !" For Christmas carols? | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated " Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated. | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics." No they haven’t. They been arrested for breaching exclusion zones set up to stop them imposing their religious beliefs on people who are already facing a traumatic event. | |||
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"Completely unacceptable Trafalgar Square to be used like this ! For Christmas carols?" Wait until they have a reason to not put up a "Christmas" tree this year in trafalgar square! Wait for it!!! There will be a "reason". | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated." Being male, in that scenario I wouldn't be intimidated | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. ... ...Religious fundamentalists rarely improve things. This is wrong Most don't have a problem with gays It's nutters who choose to read parts of the faith incorrectly Jesus! and Allah! The ego on this guy.
So now you know how they should read the faith, and they are just doing it wrong.
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The same as I know my faith is wrong by saying
"Man shall no lay with man"
Both wrong , both written 2000 years ago
Most Christians and Muslims I meet are more enlightened "Truly miraculous, born 570. but able to time-travel to write his big book of bright ideas. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible Interesting post What makes migrants incompatible? Their people? They, eat drink and fuck? I'm living in a backwards world? The state invites them through work projects that you voted for via Brexit (Australian points style)? The best of British has always been to accept that for the good of the country we need happy workers, no matter the colour or who they pray to. I put it to you. You are unbritish!! You hate our progress and success thanks to migrants. You are the bigot and holding us back " Im Irish, It doesnt take a British person to realise that the UK is declining hard, You are just talking out of your neck and may find that people agree more with me than you. Perhaps it is you that is unbritish seeing as you are celebrating the fall of your countries and your cultures. There is no success in modern Britian | |||
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"Completely unacceptable Trafalgar Square to be used like this ! For Christmas carols? Wait until they have a reason to not put up a "Christmas" tree this year in trafalgar square! Wait for it!!! So true ... There will be a "reason". " | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite ...." That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated. Being male, in that scenario I wouldn't be intimidated " By your logic, the women that are intimidated should have been able to have the intimidating "woman" arrested. Lacks consistency, or do the rights of trans women trump the rights of christian women? | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible Interesting post What makes migrants incompatible? Their people? They, eat drink and fuck? I'm living in a backwards world? The state invites them through work projects that you voted for via Brexit (Australian points style)? The best of British has always been to accept that for the good of the country we need happy workers, no matter the colour or who they pray to. I put it to you. You are unbritish!! You hate our progress and success thanks to migrants. You are the bigot and holding us back Im Irish, It doesnt take a British person to realise that the UK is declining hard, You are just talking out of your neck and may find that people agree more with me than you. Perhaps it is you that is unbritish seeing as you are celebrating the fall of your countries and your cultures. There is no success in modern Britian" Except they don't We voted out the horrible Braverman for her cruelty Labour are doing badly because they imposed more Braverman - even Rayner has realised this We want people to be treated fairly and equally no matter your colour or faith or country of origin! No changing of the rules retrospectively. Be kind, be decent! The right wing hate against minorities must stop! | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated. Being male, in that scenario I wouldn't be intimidated By your logic, the women that are intimidated should have been able to have the intimidating "woman" arrested. Lacks consistency, or do the rights of trans women trump the rights of christian women?" How desperate are you? What has trans rights, anything to do with a women who's chosen abortion? The obsession to try and make everything about Muslims and trans is weird | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated. Being male, in that scenario I wouldn't be intimidated By your logic, the women that are intimidated should have been able to have the intimidating "woman" arrested. Lacks consistency, or do the rights of trans women trump the rights of christian women? How desperate are you? What has trans rights, anything to do with a women who's chosen abortion? The obsession to try and make everything about Muslims and trans is weird " My obsession is evidence based decision making and fairness and equality under the law. I'm surprised that you, of all people, object to an analogy. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible Interesting post What makes migrants incompatible? Their people? They, eat drink and fuck? I'm living in a backwards world? The state invites them through work projects that you voted for via Brexit (Australian points style)? The best of British has always been to accept that for the good of the country we need happy workers, no matter the colour or who they pray to. I put it to you. You are unbritish!! You hate our progress and success thanks to migrants. You are the bigot and holding us back Im Irish, It doesnt take a British person to realise that the UK is declining hard, You are just talking out of your neck and may find that people agree more with me than you. Perhaps it is you that is unbritish seeing as you are celebrating the fall of your countries and your cultures. There is no success in modern Britian Except they don't We voted out the horrible Braverman for her cruelty Labour are doing badly because they imposed more Braverman - even Rayner has realised this We want people to be treated fairly and equally no matter your colour or faith or country of origin! No changing of the rules retrospectively. Be kind, be decent! The right wing hate against minorities must stop!" Again, you will find the vast majority agree with me, not you. Only overly empathetic Lefties that want to see the downfall of their own countries and the invaders will agree with you. | |||
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"No that's what you want it to be about. People can sing carols under the Christmas tree at Christmas, people can brake fast, share food and pray during Eid, people can. Light candles and pray during Diwali! Britian is christian you clown, Just because you turn a blind eyr to the muslim invasion doesbt change the facts Wow!!! Invasion???? 6% of the UK population It's insane that you even think it's a threat let alone an invasion. I actually pitty you and your capacity to learn You people like to throw out percentages, Heres a few percentages for you, Between the years 2011 and 2021 the muslim population in England and Wales grew by 44%, London has the highest amount of them at 15% of the cities population and in some local areas its as much as 80%, There are roughly 6000 conversions to Islam every year, Punjabi and Urdo are becoming one of the most common languages in the UK, So yes it is an invasion and just because its not instant doesnt mean its not, Maybe you should go and educate yourself. Bro!!! This is not an invasion! We invited people to come here because have a low birth rate. If you want less immigration we have to put taxes up!! Allowing immigrants to be happy and have their religion is a form of allowing people to be happy and settle! You are literally living in backwards world, Who invited them exactly because last time i checked there was no vote and the majority of people dont want the mass migrations. So you think importing those who are culturally incompatible with you is the answer to low birth rates? The UK is suffering a housing and homeless crisis so what part of that spells out happiness to you? Yea getting rid of them would result in more tax.....in the short run but in the long run the UK would bounce back stronger besides there are plenty of other countries that people can migrate from that have similar views than the UK there is no reason to accept those that are incompatible Interesting post What makes migrants incompatible? Their people? They, eat drink and fuck? I'm living in a backwards world? The state invites them through work projects that you voted for via Brexit (Australian points style)? The best of British has always been to accept that for the good of the country we need happy workers, no matter the colour or who they pray to. I put it to you. You are unbritish!! You hate our progress and success thanks to migrants. You are the bigot and holding us back Im Irish, It doesnt take a British person to realise that the UK is declining hard, You are just talking out of your neck and may find that people agree more with me than you. Perhaps it is you that is unbritish seeing as you are celebrating the fall of your countries and your cultures. There is no success in modern Britian Except they don't We voted out the horrible Braverman for her cruelty Labour are doing badly because they imposed more Braverman - even Rayner has realised this We want people to be treated fairly and equally no matter your colour or faith or country of origin! No changing of the rules retrospectively. Be kind, be decent! The right wing hate against minorities must stop! Again, you will find the vast majority agree with me, not you. Only overly empathetic Lefties that want to see the downfall of their own countries and the invaders will agree with you." No, polling doesn't show this! Caerphilly, Gorton and Denton? | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t, they have been arrested for breaking the law which was put in place to prevent intimidation of women in a vulnerable state. Ah! so praying in public CAN be seen as intimidating. And there's a legal precedent. No, it's not the praying, it's the fact you've broken the line of intimidation Ah yes, I saw that single woman standing off to the side of pavement, still and silently praying. No posters, no companions. Absolutely terrifying she was... For a woman going through difficult choices, having another person projecting guilt for her choices!! Yes!! It's not your right to intimated Weren't you the one that was defending the absolute right of any trans women to enter any female-only spaces. It's not your right to be intimidated. Being male, in that scenario I wouldn't be intimidated By your logic, the women that are intimidated should have been able to have the intimidating "woman" arrested. Lacks consistency, or do the rights of trans women trump the rights of christian women? How desperate are you? What has trans rights, anything to do with a women who's chosen abortion? The obsession to try and make everything about Muslims and trans is weird My obsession is evidence based decision making and fairness and equality under the law. I'm surprised that you, of all people, object to an analogy. " You can try and use trickery all you want but your wrong. People don't care. Only the online right care and think Muslims and trans are an issue. Touch grass- smell roses | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven't. They've been arrested for imposing their beliefs over people's dignity on choosing " That’s rocky ground calling out a religion for imposing their beliefs over people’s dignity to choose something. Both sides are guilty of this. But then it isn’t the everyday Christian or Muslim that does this is it. You’ve left the major point that it’s extremism on both sides | |||
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"I've never understood why gay guys, rightly, push back against christian fundamentalists, yet somehow have a selective blindness about islam. " I think you'll find we push back against all fundamentalist. Praying in public doesn't make someone a fundamentalist. | |||
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"Christians have been arrested for praying in the vicinity of abortion clinics. No they haven’t... ...People don't care. Only the online right care and think Muslims and trans are an issue. Touch grass- smell roses" In a discussion or Law, analogies are necessary to establish how any law would function outwith the confines of the specific case in question. It's not "trickery". Not only are you an expert in the religious texts and how the practitioners should interpret them, but now you speak on behalf of the People. OK | |||
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"Said Hitler about Jewish prayer in 1936" Interesting that you shoe-horned Hitler into the mix there. At that time, the Muslim world largely aligned with Nazi Germany via Palestinian propagandist and Hitler fan Amin al-Husseini. Anti-Semitism of the Third Reich was adapted into the Arabic vernacular and transmitted throughout the Middle East in thousands of hours of radio broadcasts. This is what breathed energy into the Muslim Brotherhood and jihadism, which troubles us in the West so significantly today. | |||
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"Said Hitler about Jewish prayer in 1936 Interesting that you shoe-horned Hitler into the mix there. At that time, the Muslim world largely aligned with Nazi Germany via Palestinian propagandist and Hitler fan Amin al-Husseini. Anti-Semitism of the Third Reich was adapted into the Arabic vernacular and transmitted throughout the Middle East in thousands of hours of radio broadcasts. This is what breathed energy into the Muslim Brotherhood and jihadism, which troubles us in the West so significantly today." Hitler also tried to stop Jewish prayer in public as did Mary the I with Catholics. None of it ends welst | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates." You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals. | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. " Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. " Yeah I do find it very odd when you see gay/bi guys going to bat for the group that openly wants to kill them. Then again a lot of self-described socialists seemingly have no idea what their idols said about homosexuality either  | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates. You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals." Nope you are 100% wrong on this! Muslims accept the meat to be halal so long as the prayer is said and 80% of the meat is stunned. However 100% of Kosher is slit by the throat | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates. You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals." Don't you know he's an expert on the Islamic religious texts, they are just doing it wrong. Not sure what the 7th century Arabic text for Electric Stun Gun is? | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Yeah I do find it very odd when you see gay/bi guys going to bat for the group that openly wants to kill them. Then again a lot of self-described socialists seemingly have no idea what their idols said about homosexuality either "Well.....the Muslims I know in this country don't wish me harm. In fact much the opposite!! They have chosen our country for the same reasons as we like it! | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates. You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals. Nope you are 100% wrong on this! Muslims accept the meat to be halal so long as the prayer is said and 80% of the meat is stunned. However 100% of Kosher is slit by the throat " You're completely wrong on this one, I know one of the biggest meat processors in the country and the halal meat is processed by first slitting the throats of the animals | |||
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates. You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals. Nope you are 100% wrong on this! Muslims accept the meat to be halal so long as the prayer is said and 80% of the meat is stunned. However 100% of Kosher is slit by the throat You're completely wrong on this one, I know one of the biggest meat processors in the country and the halal meat is processed by first slitting the throats of the animals" Are we allowed to share links? 88% of halal meat is killed via stunned means according to the RSPCA | |||
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Well.....the Muslims I know in this country don't wish me harm. In fact much the opposite!!
They have chosen our country for the same reasons as we like it! "No one is claiming that all Muslims are Islamic extremists. The ones I know well would fall into the same category as your Muslim associates. Try asking them about what's going on within the wider Islamic UK diaspora here in the UK right now ... They really are far better informed than the indigenous Brits ... and you would learn a lot from listening to them, rather than preaching to everyone on here, about them  | |||
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Well.....the Muslims I know in this country don't wish me harm. In fact much the opposite!!
They have chosen our country for the same reasons as we like it!
No one is claiming that all Muslims are Islamic extremists.
The ones I know well would fall into the same category as your Muslim associates.
Try asking them about what's going on within the wider Islamic UK diaspora here in the UK right now ... They really are far better informed than the indigenous Brits ... and you would learn a lot from listening to them, rather than preaching to everyone on here, about them
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"Muslims killing animals to eat by slitting their throats and bleeding then to death is barbaric and should be banned immediately...Trouble is the indigenous British people are far to polite .... That's not true, most halal kiling is done by stun gun. If you protest to that sort killing you have to immediately ban kosher which is the Jewish form of killing meat! And well let's see what your made of Do you know for certain they are stunned? I'm not sure. 30 years ago I had a slaughterman as a pub customers and he was not at all happy about the owners of the abattoir, where he worked, allowing a halal section, because the animals were not stunned. He, despite killing dozens of animals a day, thought it barbaric. Most of those wanted to ban halal and kosher slaughter claim the animals are not stunned. Other than your good self have I ever heard anyone claim they were. Unless you observe the killing you wouldn't!! Allegedly most halal kiling is done by stun. The same as you local butcher. However, 100% kosher isn't So if we are to have this conversation you need to tap you Jewish mates. You're talking absolute bollocks on this one, halal meat is still produced by slitting the throats of animals. Nope you are 100% wrong on this! Muslims accept the meat to be halal so long as the prayer is said and 80% of the meat is stunned. However 100% of Kosher is slit by the throat You're completely wrong on this one, I know one of the biggest meat processors in the country and the halal meat is processed by first slitting the throats of the animals Are we allowed to share links? 88% of halal meat is killed via stunned means according to the RSPCA" From the RSPCA website today: "Current UK law requires animals to be stunned before slaughter, so they don't feel pain. However, Jewish and Muslim communities aren't required by law to stun animals before slaughter. All Shechita (Jewish) and some Halal (Muslim) slaughter involves cutting the animal's throat without stunning them first." | |||
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"I'd quite happily see it all confined to their churches or mosques. Faith should be between you and your chosen God. Yep, and kept out of education! Which idiot thought faith schools (of any faith) are a great idea? They just entrench division. " Totally agree with that one. The French don't allow it. | |||
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"I'd quite happily see it all confined to their churches or mosques. Faith should be between you and your chosen God. Yep, and kept out of education! Which idiot thought faith schools (of any faith) are a great idea? They just entrench division. Totally agree with that one. The French don't allow it." They also have a worse rate of integration. If Britain has a super power it's the fact we've integrated so well | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human?" I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. | |||
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It was introduced in the hope of being "blind" but it's actually seen as a detrimental reason as to why they haven't integrated so well."Your MO: Use stats to attempt to prove a point. Dismiss stats if it discredits your point. Use tangents to try to prove a point, or to attempt to derail the discussion. Dismiss analogies if it discredits your point. If all else fails call everyone Hitler or Ghengis Khan OK | |||
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Reading that made me really miss Eurotrash for some reason.
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That was a great fun program. Amazing what pish we would watch for a bit of titillation before internet porn. saturation "Definitely ... And the bizarre voice translations were so funny ... Some weird continental character dubbed over into English with a really exaggerated Yorkshire accent
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"Lol. Facts and stats are useful if they are conducted in an environment that it can be quantified. In the UK we are lucky we have good data about race, ethnicity, etc etc France don't, it's illegal in France to collect that data. It's not my fault I'm well read and memories stuff! Do better Yes, you are so well read, that you know everything. "I categorically do not know everything!! I happen to comment on topics that I am well versed in. But even then, things change and I could be wrong. It's just you and I happen to comment on similar topics Nd take opposing views. | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? " Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. | |||
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That was a great fun program. Amazing what pish we would watch for a bit of titillation before internet porn. saturation
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. I I Words Erm Blimey Again this is where racism and stupidity gets you Running from the point again? You are just proving the leftist/islamist alliance when you try to silence conversation with cries of 'racism'. It is not just pathetic, its outright dishonest and a typical cop out from those with no counter argument." The only point I could see in this racist tirade Was moderate Muslims are not a minority or we'd all be dead | |||
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"Trying to say one religion should not pray at Trafalgar Square is insane!! This is not the days of Mary I!! We have freedom of prayer and freedom of expression!! Would you stop Christmas prayers at that venue?" Try having a nass christian event in a muslim country ,and see how that goes | |||
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"I don't actually believe in freedom of religion. Last week in Scotland religious bigots voted to continue to let terminally ill people die in agony to sate their religious sadism. The brand of religion you refer to is even more evil. It's working out brilliantly (I assume you mean assisted dying) How's that working out in Canada. " | |||
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Reading that made me really miss Eurotrash for some reason.
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. I I Words Erm Blimey Again this is where racism and stupidity gets you Running from the point again? You are just proving the leftist/islamist alliance when you try to silence conversation with cries of 'racism'. It is not just pathetic, its outright dishonest and a typical cop out from those with no counter argument. The only point I could see in this racist tirade Was moderate Muslims are not a minority or we'd all be dead " You clearly lack comprehension skills. I'm sure you think that being deliberately obtuse is a valid debating method but you are once again showing your ignorance. | |||
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"Lol. Facts and stats are useful if they are conducted in an environment that it can be quantified. In the UK we are lucky we have good data about race, ethnicity, etc etc France don't, it's illegal in France to collect that data. It's not my fault I'm well read and memories stuff! Do better You did better when you were calling yourself bigdickenergy. What happened? I see he's still doing the list of pseudo intellectual or obscure references where few if any have a tenuous relevance to the topic: 1850 Tufton Street Ange and Den Hilter" You mean quantifiable evidence. Of which you didn't have France don't collect the data you pretend to present | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. I I Words Erm Blimey Again this is where racism and stupidity gets you Running from the point again? You are just proving the leftist/islamist alliance when you try to silence conversation with cries of 'racism'. It is not just pathetic, its outright dishonest and a typical cop out from those with no counter argument. The only point I could see in this racist tirade Was moderate Muslims are not a minority or we'd all be dead You clearly lack comprehension skills. I'm sure you think that being deliberately obtuse is a valid debating method but you are once again showing your ignorance. To what? Your free speech?" Still running from the cold hard truth like a typical leftist? Did the islamic regime turn against the leftist useful idiots that helped them get power? | |||
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"I can go to City Road and suck a brown cut cock! They love in Britain, they have chosen Britain because they like our values! The tiny minority that don't, I hope MI5 are on their arses Forced marriages aren't part of british values. Sharia law isn't part of our values. If people came here because they like it and share our values why is integration pretty much non existent? Why have we overlooked animal rights to have widespread halal meat? " Non of this is true. Did queen Vic have any say in marrying her cousin? Sharia law is not practiced in Britain we have Sharia councils but UK law supersedes any other and again 88% of halal meat is stunned | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. I I Words Erm Blimey Again this is where racism and stupidity gets you Running from the point again? You are just proving the leftist/islamist alliance when you try to silence conversation with cries of 'racism'. It is not just pathetic, its outright dishonest and a typical cop out from those with no counter argument. The only point I could see in this racist tirade Was moderate Muslims are not a minority or we'd all be dead You clearly lack comprehension skills. I'm sure you think that being deliberately obtuse is a valid debating method but you are once again showing your ignorance. To what? Your free speech? Still running from the cold hard truth like a typical leftist? Did the islamic regime turn against the leftist useful idiots that helped them get power?" What are you on about? | |||
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"Lol. Facts and stats are useful if they are conducted in an environment that it can be quantified. In the UK we are lucky we have good data about race, ethnicity, etc etc France don't, it's illegal in France to collect that data. It's not my fault I'm well read and memories stuff! Do better You did better when you were calling yourself bigdickenergy. What happened? I see he's still doing the list of pseudo intellectual or obscure references where few if any have a tenuous relevance to the topic: 1850 Tufton Street Ange and Den Hilter" Reincarnated ... but into the same person. 'Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon You come and go, you come and go' | |||
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"Islamists have always used the political left to advance their aims. The sight of the mass prayer in Trafalgar Square shows us exactly where the UK is heading ...... And this is completely endorsed by the Greens, Labour, and Lib Dems. The latest hum-dinger of a strategy of the left, & so clumsily demonstrated by the OP of this thread, is to accuse anyone who in any way has a problem with the current state of affairs as being Anti-British. Laughable in its clearly obvious projection. Don't fall for it. Lol!! Seems catching without evidence Let's see evidence of Islamists "always using the left" The iranian revoloution used marxists and communists to achieve their goal, the pro palestinian marches are an alliance of jihad supporters and liberals, human rights lawyers fall at feet of some of the worst criminals to stop them being deported, the green party, many labour mps/councilors in compromising positions with islamic 'leaders', gr00ming gangs predominatly in labour areas, greta's flotilla organised by islamists.... Nus Ghani Sajid Javid Rehman Chrishti Saqib Bhatti And as for human rights lawyers . It's a ridiculous argument. Are you human? I'm a white human and human rights lawyers and the left wing gov are busy fighting to take away my human right to be critical of islam. You are no different to the lefties that enabled the iranian revoloution. Well meaning but misguided and absoloutely deluded. You think that being pedantic to show that not every muslim 'always' aligns with the left somehow dismisses the well documented alliances between the leftists and islamists and how history is repeating itself. If you want to take the claim of 'always siding with leftists' to its literal extreme and mean every single muslim, every single time then sure, the claim is false however such absoloutist thinking lacks nuance and appears willfully ignorant. Do Muslims make women were the hijab and hate gays? Its very telling that you still double down on the #notallmuslims stance. You are just trying to avoid hard facts. Moderate muslims are the minority and trying to use them to sanitise islam is beyond ignorant. History proves that the more muslim a country becomes the more oppressive it becomes, as highlighted by the islamic regime in Iran turning on the leftists that helped them gain power. I I Words Erm Blimey Again this is where racism and stupidity gets you Running from the point again? You are just proving the leftist/islamist alliance when you try to silence conversation with cries of 'racism'. It is not just pathetic, its outright dishonest and a typical cop out from those with no counter argument. The only point I could see in this racist tirade Was moderate Muslims are not a minority or we'd all be dead You clearly lack comprehension skills. I'm sure you think that being deliberately obtuse is a valid debating method but you are once again showing your ignorance. To what? Your free speech? Still running from the cold hard truth like a typical leftist? Did the islamic regime turn against the leftist useful idiots that helped them get power? What are you on about?" For someone who claims a good memory you have soon forgotten about the posts you ran away from... | |||
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"Lol. Facts and stats are useful if they are conducted in an environment that it can be quantified. In the UK we are lucky we have good data about race, ethnicity, etc etc France don't, it's illegal in France to collect that data. It's not my fault I'm well read and memories stuff! Do better You did better when you were calling yourself bigdickenergy. What happened? I see he's still doing the list of pseudo intellectual or obscure references where few if any have a tenuous relevance to the topic: 1850 Tufton Street Ange and Den Hilter You mean quantifiable evidence. Of which you didn't have France don't collect the data you pretend to present " Sorry to have to be the one to break it to you, but your opinion and reality are often two very different things. | |||
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"Difference between at Christian prayers the women are allowed to join the men, unlike Islam… They do at open air iftars I've been to " The sunny uplands of the Cardiff bubble where everything is perfect. So unlike the rest of the country | |||
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