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By *eedsbearman OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Leeds

Do you consider yourself to be feminist?

Or do you not even think about it?

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By *op07041952Man
4 weeks ago

birmingham

No but some have feminine traits that are not good

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By *i-curious WelshmanMan
4 weeks ago

Ammanford

I was completely straight up until a few years ago. Now I consider myself to be bi. I do feel sexy and enjoy dressing if its requested by a stocking lover. Not a feminist in any way. Probably quite the opposite, because I love a guy to treat me as a cheap sissy slut who has no say in whatever he wants to do to me for his selfish pleasure.

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By *ntoniacd40TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Guildford

Quite the opposite

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By *lackbootzMan
4 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx

“Are gurls feminists?”

No, just terrible spellers seemingly.

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By *evinmanMan
4 weeks ago

Dublin

'Gurls' are men. So the question is if men can be feminists?

If men believe that men/trans women should be allowed compete in women's sports or share women's spaces such as changing rooms then they are anti woman and so cannot be feminists. Simple.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Waterlooville

The girls on here and speaking for myself, I think, no.

Feminism is about equality.

The majority on here, class themselves as submissive, so are not seeking equality with their lovers.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers

I doubt many here even know what a feminist is.

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By *eefandfurMan
4 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Depends on your definition of feminism.

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By *ildwestheroMan
4 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

From what I see of the 'gurls' on here and other sites, most are the dead opposite of feminists. Once they go into their LusciousLydia or RampartRachel mode they seem to want to be meek, submissive women. Trans seem to be another matter. Whilst some just want to get on with their lives other seem to want to be trans-militant and make a bit of a nuisance of themselves.

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By *lackbootzMan
4 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx

😶

*awaits the angry hordes with pitchforks and flaming torches to descend on Llandrindod Wells in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1…*

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By *pankmandyTV/TS
4 weeks ago

scunthorpe

I am a feminist in so far as I believe women (everyone to be fair) should have equal rights, equal pay etc. And should not have to live in fear of violence from men.

I say that as a man. As a so called gurl this does not change.

Submissiveness and other approaches to sex are expressions of sexual desire and adventure. A person can be submissive without compromising or surrendering their rights as an individual. Or expect or accept violence and intimidation (outside of consensual play).

Those who dress and act in a bimbo style persona are expressing their enjoyment of acting out that persona. I don't believe that they are projecting an opinion on or undermining responsible and reasonable feminism.

I say this not to stoke argument or attract the 'offended' or genuine activists. We should all strive to accept and support each other regardless of sexual preferences.

X x x

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By *ildwestheroMan
4 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"😶

*awaits the angry hordes with pitchforks and flaming torches to descend on Llandrindod Wells in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1…*"

They've been here for years

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By *eedsbearman OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Leeds


"The girls on here and speaking for myself, I think, no.

Feminism is about equality.

The majority on here, class themselves as submissive, so are not seeking equality with their lovers."

I can understand this view, that the gurldom is often about pleasuring men and almost an antidote to the wives and their closed gussets

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By *MB9Man
4 weeks ago

Northampton

Shouldn't we all be feminists?

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By *dstefiMan
4 weeks ago

Solihull

I'm married to a woman I adore and admire and whose judgement, abilities and intelligence are beyond doubt and I'd never reduce her to just her gender, either in a pejorative or patronising way. She's so much more than just an equal and yet she regularly gets shit off people who aren't me because they are fucking stupid.

Answering the OP, I think men who display any aspect of femininity from the merest hint of sensitivity right through the gamut to presenting fully female will know that how the majority of the male half of the species react to that is lumpen, wilfully stupid and often idiotically offensive.

As even just a crossdresser who tries to present as masculine, I still deal with ridiculous patriarchal and entitled attitudes. Fuck knows how full on gurls handle it.

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By *owalskiMan
4 weeks ago

Addlestone

'Are gurls feminists?'...... they're not even girls.....

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By *eedsbearman OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Leeds


"'Are gurls feminists?'...... they're not even girls....."

Nobody mentioned any girls

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By *owzerMan
4 weeks ago

Chester... Where the streets have no name


"'Are gurls feminists?'...... they're not even girls.....

Nobody mentioned any girls "

Persons living as a parody stereotype of what a man thinks a woman is.

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By *ndy457Man
4 weeks ago

Gosport

They belittle women so can’t be feminists

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By *ro4hoes2Man
4 weeks ago

Newport

To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you?

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you? "

Nah i consider myself a feminist and the cock swinging between my legs confirms im not female.

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By *ro4hoes2Man
4 weeks ago

Newport


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you?

Nah i consider myself a feminist and the cock swinging between my legs confirms im not female."

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By *iny cock xMan
4 weeks ago

Chester

Only when I am dressed up

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge

Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause.

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By *dstefiMan
4 weeks ago

Solihull


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you? "

Actual and absolute bollocks. Men can totally be feminists if they recognise women's right to the same privileges as men have traditionally held. Like being judged on ability and not just what they wear or what's between their legs.

News for you, possession of a prick doesn't entitle you to special treatment any more.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause."

Men can be feminists, but its questionable if a man who has a fetish for dressing like a woman can be. I'd argue some are actually the opposite and really quite misogynistic, just like some men are who dont share the fetish, straight, bi or gay, are misogynist.

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By *IPMANMan
4 weeks ago

West London

Many of the "gurls" on here look nothing like people the female gender that I know from my family/social circle or that I have met throughout my career

I believe this to be a trick question, or was it posted on 1st April ?

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers

Of course the dont look like females because they're not female.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause.

Men can be feminists, but its questionable if a man who has a fetish for dressing like a woman can be. I'd argue some are actually the opposite and really quite misogynistic, just like some men are who dont share the fetish, straight, bi or gay, are misogynist. "

Men can support the feminist cause but they cannot be a feminist.

That is unique to females as it is they who live that life.

However, I do agree with the other part of your comment.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you?

Actual and absolute bollocks. Men can totally be feminists if they recognise women's right to the same privileges as men have traditionally held. Like being judged on ability and not just what they wear or what's between their legs.

News for you, possession of a prick doesn't entitle you to special treatment any more."

Men can support feminists but they cannot be feminists themselves.

There’s a difference.

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By *ate500TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Newcastle/Durham

Being a feminist doesn't mean you have to be a woman; it means you believe in social, political, and economic equality for all genders. I I value women, respect their experiences, and believe in the freedom to express femininity without judgment, so already aligned with feminist values.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause.

Men can be feminists, but its questionable if a man who has a fetish for dressing like a woman can be. I'd argue some are actually the opposite and really quite misogynistic, just like some men are who dont share the fetish, straight, bi or gay, are misogynist.

Men can support the feminist cause but they cannot be a feminist.

That is unique to females as it is they who live that life.

However, I do agree with the other part of your comment."

You do understand that supporting the feminist cause is the actual definition of a feminist don't you? There are no levels of feminists, and there are no genders of feminists.

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By *ndy457Man
4 weeks ago

Gosport

There’s feminism and then there’s feminism and more degrees and waves of feminism as it has developed over the years.

I’m guessing that many on here would agree with the basic tenets of equal rights, equal pay etc, but it goes much further than that.

However if you dress as a woman and claim to feel feminine or even to put on female underwear you are undermining what it is to be a woman. You are a misogynist, not a feminist.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"Being a feminist doesn't mean you have to be a woman; it means you believe in social, political, and economic equality for all genders. I I value women, respect their experiences, and believe in the freedom to express femininity without judgment, so already aligned with feminist values."

And that’s supporting feminism.

You’re a man, women are not allowed on this site, you are not a feminist by very definition.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers

I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers

Autocorrected Cillian Murphy there...

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause.

Men can be feminists, but its questionable if a man who has a fetish for dressing like a woman can be. I'd argue some are actually the opposite and really quite misogynistic, just like some men are who dont share the fetish, straight, bi or gay, are misogynist.

Men can support the feminist cause but they cannot be a feminist.

That is unique to females as it is they who live that life.

However, I do agree with the other part of your comment.

You do understand that supporting the feminist cause is the actual definition of a feminist don't you? There are no levels of feminists, and there are no genders of feminists. "

That is one strand of feminism definition that you believe in, please don’t impose it on me.

There are feminist movements across the world that are only female members but may have male support but are not, and cannot, be inclusive of males.

Empathy has a limit regarding causes like this, it is not a lived empathy.

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By *ndy457Man
4 weeks ago

Gosport

It’s a big and very contentious subject and I’m no expert. It’s very easy for man to say “I’m a feminist” but it makes me uneasy. If we admit to our own biases and behaviours, it’s not the easiest position to take and I find it somewhat glib.

But to say you are a feminist because you ‘feel’ and dress as a woman is utter self deception

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"Don’t know what a ‘gurl’ is but have seen it used prolifically by the op.

Google is non too helpful with an explanation so I guess it’s unique to this user and those contributors who ‘get it,’ so to speak.

I suspect it’s a fella in women’s lingerie so no, they’re male, so cannot be a feminist and I would question if they even support the cause.

Men can be feminists, but its questionable if a man who has a fetish for dressing like a woman can be. I'd argue some are actually the opposite and really quite misogynistic, just like some men are who dont share the fetish, straight, bi or gay, are misogynist.

Men can support the feminist cause but they cannot be a feminist.

That is unique to females as it is they who live that life.

However, I do agree with the other part of your comment.

You do understand that supporting the feminist cause is the actual definition of a feminist don't you? There are no levels of feminists, and there are no genders of feminists.

That is one strand of feminism definition that you believe in, please don’t impose it on me.

There are feminist movements across the world that are only female members but may have male support but are not, and cannot, be inclusive of males.

Empathy has a limit regarding causes like this, it is not a lived empathy."

Nobody is imposing anything on you, however you feel its appropriate to deny me who I identify as. Feminism isnt strands or branches of feminism, or clubs with members. Sure, there are some folks who have turned some feminist idealogy into cults, but really, they're not feminists. Feminism can be and is for anyone, fanny or dick. Nobody has a say on who is and isn't a feminist, because its defined by beliefs and behaviours. Thats the bedrock of all equality campaigns.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis."

What feminist movement/definition are you quoting?

Via Google? Wikipedia??

Eg, suffragettes were women only and any male supporters of suffragettes were termed ‘suffragents’ in the Victorian era.

A clear distinction simply because a man could vote and a woman could not.

A man could support that cause but not live it.

It is this distinction that you are struggling with.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis.

What feminist movement/definition are you quoting?

Via Google? Wikipedia??

Eg, suffragettes were women only and any male supporters of suffragettes were termed ‘suffragents’ in the Victorian era.

A clear distinction simply because a man could vote and a woman could not.

A man could support that cause but not live it.

It is this distinction that you are struggling with."

Your notion of and benchmark of "feminism" is Vicorian suffragettes? There's the problem.

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By *ro4hoes2Man
4 weeks ago

Newport


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you?

No, seeing as you literally seem to spend your life commenting on forum posts, you'll realise you a bloke in panties.

Actual and absolute bollocks. Men can totally be feminists if they recognise women's right to the same privileges as men have traditionally held. Like being judged on ability and not just what they wear or what's between their legs.

News for you, possession of a prick doesn't entitle you to special treatment any more."

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"

Nobody is imposing anything on you, however you feel it’s appropriate to deny me who I identify as. "

I couldn’t care less what you identify as but please don’t impose your fantasy onto me.

You’re a man or else you are invalidating your membership T&Cs on this site.

I need not proceed my reply.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis.

What feminist movement/definition are you quoting?

Via Google? Wikipedia??

Eg, suffragettes were women only and any male supporters of suffragettes were termed ‘suffragents’ in the Victorian era.

A clear distinction simply because a man could vote and a woman could not.

A man could support that cause but not live it.

It is this distinction that you are struggling with.

Your notion of and benchmark of "feminism" is Vicorian suffragettes? There's the problem."

One example fella. 🙄

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By *ro4hoes2Man
4 weeks ago

Newport


"To be a feminist, you need to be female. Actual female. Vagina, cervix and womb etc. Very likely anyone on here right? Considering your gay OP, why do you keep perpetually speaking about 'gurls'. Men in birds (sorry ,ladies for the feminists amongst the group) undies can't appeal to you?

No, seeing as you literally seem to spend your life commenting on forum posts, you'll realise you a bloke in panties.

Actual and absolute bollocks. Men can totally be feminists if they recognise women's right to the same privileges as men have traditionally held. Like being judged on ability and not just what they wear or what's between their legs.

News for you, possession of a prick doesn't entitle you to special treatment any more."

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford & Worth Matravers


"I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis.

What feminist movement/definition are you quoting?

Via Google? Wikipedia??

Eg, suffragettes were women only and any male supporters of suffragettes were termed ‘suffragents’ in the Victorian era.

A clear distinction simply because a man could vote and a woman could not.

A man could support that cause but not live it.

It is this distinction that you are struggling with.

Your notion of and benchmark of "feminism" is Vicorian suffragettes? There's the problem.

One example fella. 🙄

"

Example of what? A club, branch society or cult with members? Political and campaign groups? Organised thought conversion? Feminism is none of those things. It is a belief in equality focussed on the role of women in society. Beliefs dont need clubs or members or genders.

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By *oxymusicMan
4 weeks ago

Cowbridge


"I think you need to go and do some research about what a feminist is. There are no rules, or definitions, that exclude men from being feminists. Barak Obama, Ryan Gosling, Lewis Hamilton, Lillian Murphy - all well known feminists, and as far as I know, sporting a big ole' penis.

What feminist movement/definition are you quoting?

Via Google? Wikipedia??

Eg, suffragettes were women only and any male supporters of suffragettes were termed ‘suffragents’ in the Victorian era.

A clear distinction simply because a man could vote and a woman could not.

A man could support that cause but not live it.

It is this distinction that you are struggling with.

Your notion of and benchmark of "feminism" is Vicorian suffragettes? There's the problem.

One example fella. 🙄

Example of what? A club, branch society or cult with members? Political and campaign groups? Organised thought conversion? Feminism is none of those things. It is a belief in equality focussed on the role of women in society. Beliefs dont need clubs or members or genders."

I’m a hedgehog.

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By *dstefiMan
4 weeks ago

Solihull

So viz most of the circular arguments above:

If a totally straight man identifies as an ally to gay men and their rights to equality, how is that different to what we're discussing? He has no right to be an ally because he prefers pussy to cock?

It's all down to the individual and what they believe and live out. I crossdress and love it and I love women and I love cock. None of which invalidates my beliefs in human rights and decency.

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