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"God help those two injured individuals and may we wish them a quick recovery. Hopefully the suspect with the knife will be Jailed. Prayers to the injured." Yes! Before, or after a trial? Better to your god, surely? | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. This activity is a worrying trend due to its frequency. It would be interesting to to know who they are acting on behalf of, if not just the deranged behaviour of an anti-semite. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month." | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. " What is the ‘simple solution’? | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. What is the ‘simple solution’?" I'm also interested. | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month." They have their own Security Services & their own Ambulance Services ? Wonder why that is 🤔 | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!" ...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. What is the ‘simple solution’?" I think he meant 'final' | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month. They have their own Security Services & their own Ambulance Services ? Wonder why that is 🤔" They're just volunteer groups who support anyone in that area It's not that they're "their" ambulances or security, if that makes sense | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month. They have their own Security Services & their own Ambulance Services ? Wonder why that is 🤔 They're just volunteer groups who support anyone in that area It's not that they're "their" ambulances or security, if that makes sense" | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. " | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.." Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. What is the ‘simple solution’? I think he meant 'final'" Against innocent members of the British public, what a strange idea. | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary." ...didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. " ...an advocate of law and order I see... | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. "👎 👎 | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him?" I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see..." Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries. | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. " ...but you then celebrated him being kicked in the head...?...what happened to the "great British justice system "...? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries." ...what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing..." Yeah like the British system is working so well | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. ...but you then celebrated him being kicked in the head...?...what happened to the "great British justice system "...?" I already answered that, 'They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary'. Please look at the arrest video and tell me why you disagree, if you still do. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... Yeah like the British system is working so well " ...its looking like justice is a one way system | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. " And the solution is???? Pray tell | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing..." There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder" ...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. ...but you then celebrated him being kicked in the head...?...what happened to the "great British justice system "...? I already answered that, 'They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary'. Please look at the arrest video and tell me why you disagree, if you still do." You really love throwing that word around don't you...tell us, if he'd stabbed a couple of Roman Catholics would he still be a terrorist? | |||
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"Done by a African, but middle-aged white men will get the blame, ask Gary Neville." ...pathetic.. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences " Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement" ..you seem to be a shoot first and ask questions later type of guy... | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. ...but you then celebrated him being kicked in the head...?...what happened to the "great British justice system "...? I already answered that, 'They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary'. Please look at the arrest video and tell me why you disagree, if you still do. You really love throwing that word around don't you...tell us, if he'd stabbed a couple of Roman Catholics would he still be a terrorist? " I'm using the word terrorist because the Met Police and the government have both declared this a terrorist incident, and it's being investigated by the Counter Terrorism Unit. Please tell us how could we possibly make this more simple for you to understand. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement..you seem to be a shoot first and ask questions later type of guy..." If they didn't shoot first they'd probably be dead and unable to ask questions later. | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha " He was another victim of terrorism. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement..you seem to be a shoot first and ask questions later type of guy..." I don't think any questions about his terrorist activities were necessary | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement..you seem to be a shoot first and ask questions later type of guy... I don't think any questions about his terrorist activities were necessary " True, his actions certainly spoke louder than words. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Obvious consequences were never mentioned - try harder. And there would have been none in this incident given it was deemed a terrorist event - any armed officer would have rightly blown his sick brains out over the pavement..you seem to be a shoot first and ask questions later type of guy... If they didn't shoot first they'd probably be dead and unable to ask questions later." ...you're answering for the other guy...?...hahaha | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism." ...you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw.... | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences " Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism....you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw...." De Menezes was shot by the Metropolitan Police Service at Stockwell Station of the London Underground, after being mistakenly identified as one of the fugitives from the previous day's failed bombing attempts. These attempts occurred two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, in which 52 people were killed. Had the terrorist attacks not occurred he would not have been shot and his death is directly linked to them. Understand now? | |||
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"...... As I said as ex military you must have discipline on how you act the police that dealt with this atrocity did not, if as they said he could have had an ied they SHOULD have shot him dead… not kick and stamp on his head. It now seems that any act like this is automatically classed as as anti semiotic terror this is not always true. A lot more to be said I am sure and a speedy recovery to those people hurt ." How could the officers have 'shot him dead' when they were not issued with firearms? Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted? | |||
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"Before people start moaning, I am an ex serviceman I do not believe in religion. But do believe in the law of the land no matter What religion you are. Point 1 If you have people walking the streets with mental illnesses in some cases severe you will have trouble as in the Nottingham stabbings. Point 2 If you indoctrinate these people it does NOT make them Terrorists they are just a tool used by actual terrorists. In this country we spend £ millions a day looking after Illegal immigrants and still more on people to look after them but on mental health issues nearly jack shit spend more on people who TRULY need help and we will see the benefits and have a safer and better society. As I said as ex military you must have discipline on how you act the police that dealt with this atrocity did not, if as they said he could have had an ied they SHOULD have shot him dead… not kick and stamp on his head. It now seems that any act like this is automatically classed as as anti semiotic terror this is not always true. A lot more to be said I am sure and a speedy recovery to those people hurt ." Let's hope no one of your family and friends ever get targeted like this. Let's see what you or anyone would do. Your post is anathema and your faux sympathy is quite simply 🤮 | |||
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"...... As I said as ex military you must have discipline on how you act the police that dealt with this atrocity did not, if as they said he could have had an ied they SHOULD have shot him dead… not kick and stamp on his head. It now seems that any act like this is automatically classed as as anti semiotic terror this is not always true. A lot more to be said I am sure and a speedy recovery to those people hurt . How could the officers have 'shot him dead' when they were not issued with firearms? Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted?" Exactly | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism....you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw.... De Menezes was shot by the Metropolitan Police Service at Stockwell Station of the London Underground, after being mistakenly identified as one of the fugitives from the previous day's failed bombing attempts. These attempts occurred two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, in which 52 people were killed. Had the terrorist attacks not occurred he would not have been shot and his death is directly linked to them. Understand now?" ....as I've said....you sound like an idf spokesman... | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism....you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw.... De Menezes was shot by the Metropolitan Police Service at Stockwell Station of the London Underground, after being mistakenly identified as one of the fugitives from the previous day's failed bombing attempts. These attempts occurred two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, in which 52 people were killed. Had the terrorist attacks not occurred he would not have been shot and his death is directly linked to them. Understand now?....as I've said....you sound like an idf spokesman..." The terrorist attacks in 2005 had nothing to do with Israel. You sound like a troll. | |||
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"Hats off to the brave officers who intervened and took the suspect down Excellent Police Work 👊" | |||
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" Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted?" Wrong place wrong time? The usual suspects are jumping on the anti-semetic bandwagon because it suits the agenda they are peddling. No details of the attacker have been released yet, assumptions are being made (what the usual suspects want to happen), what if it just comes down to the fact the the two victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this was just a random attack. And what happens to the assumptions if....THATS IF....it comes out that the knifeman is Jewish? Do the usual suspects carry on banging the same drum? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? " Israel. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect " This was an attack on British citizens on British soil, nothing to do with Israel. Don't make excuses for terrorists. | |||
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" Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted? Wrong place wrong time? The usual suspects are jumping on the anti-semetic bandwagon because it suits the agenda they are peddling. No details of the attacker have been released yet, assumptions are being made (what the usual suspects want to happen), what if it just comes down to the fact the the two victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this was just a random attack. And what happens to the assumptions if....THATS IF....it comes out that the knifeman is Jewish? Do the usual suspects carry on banging the same drum? " Who are these usual suspects banging the same drum that you refer to? The victims were on their own home area, how can you possibly accuse them of being in the wrong place, they should be safe wherever they go. With regards to the anti-Semitic terrorist attacker, he was a Somalian Muslim who had travelled from South London. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel." Iran | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect " And if the Palestinians continue to kill innocent people what can they expect? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? " Every police officer, in every country, can use deadly force to end an imminent threat. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Every police officer, in every country, can use deadly force to end an imminent threat. " Exactly 👍 | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran" I no longer refer to the nation as Iran, as this term encompasses all Iranians. In fact, 98 percent of Iranians do not support these Nazi ayatollahs and have no issues with Jewish individuals globally. They coexisted peacefully for many years prior to the emergence of these individuals. The current designation, Islamic Republic of Iran, is unrelated to the true essence of Iran and its people. It is more appropriate to refer to it as the Islamic Republic when discussing these murderous Nazi ayatollahs. | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism....you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw.... De Menezes was shot by the Metropolitan Police Service at Stockwell Station of the London Underground, after being mistakenly identified as one of the fugitives from the previous day's failed bombing attempts. These attempts occurred two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, in which 52 people were killed. Had the terrorist attacks not occurred he would not have been shot and his death is directly linked to them. Understand now?....as I've said....you sound like an idf spokesman... The terrorist attacks in 2005 had nothing to do with Israel. You sound like a troll." .the questionyou should be asking yourself..do you want a police force that follows the law....or do you want a bunch of thugs who randomly kick the shit out of a suspect before they've even established he's the right person...the Americans call it qualified immunity....a dangerous road to go down in my opinion | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Every police officer, in every country, can use deadly force to end an imminent threat. " ...the op said that this suspect was already detained...? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran" But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? | |||
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" Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted? Wrong place wrong time? The usual suspects are jumping on the anti-semetic bandwagon because it suits the agenda they are peddling. No details of the attacker have been released yet, assumptions are being made (what the usual suspects want to happen), what if it just comes down to the fact the the two victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this was just a random attack. And what happens to the assumptions if....THATS IF....it comes out that the knifeman is Jewish? Do the usual suspects carry on banging the same drum? " Jeez, you really are unaware or just blatantly trying to warp the truth | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran I no longer refer to the nation as Iran, as this term encompasses all Iranians. In fact, 98 percent of Iranians do not support these Nazi ayatollahs and have no issues with Jewish individuals globally. They coexisted peacefully for many years prior to the emergence of these individuals. The current designation, Islamic Republic of Iran, is unrelated to the true essence of Iran and its people. It is more appropriate to refer to it as the Islamic Republic when discussing these murderous Nazi ayatollahs." And yet some Jews still live in Iran and allowed to practice their religion openly. It's a bit harder for them since Israel has bombed the main temple in Tehran recently though. | |||
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"The increase in anti semitism and attacks on Jews in uk is a direct result of Netanyahu gaza policy to kill Palestinians, over 70000 and counting" It appears that you consider these attacks to be commonplace and have devised a poor excuse for yourself, describing it as a trivial statement that one would only encounter in children’s literature. | |||
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"The increase in anti semitism and attacks on Jews in uk is a direct result of Netanyahu gaza policy to kill Palestinians, over 70000 and counting" There is a clear correlation between spikes in anti-Semitism and atrocities committed by Israel, coupled with the cumulative effect of frustration and a sense of injustice that these atrocities are allowed to persist unabated. The main action in stopping this is for Israel to change but Israel won't unless it's forced to ergo i expect such acts to continue. | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.." You are part of the problem. He’ll remember that kicking long after our pathetic system lets him go on a technicality due to a flaky society where nobody should have hurty feelings!! | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. You are part of the problem. He’ll remember that kicking long after our pathetic system lets him go on a technicality due to a flaky society where nobody should have hurty feelings!!" ...so if the police don't follow the law....does that mean ordinary citizens don't have to either..at what point would these type of "kickings " be over the top...?...I think its you who's part of the problem | |||
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"The increase in anti semitism and attacks on Jews in uk is a direct result of Netanyahu gaza policy to kill Palestinians, over 70000 and counting It appears that you consider these attacks to be commonplace and have devised a poor excuse for yourself, describing it as a trivial statement that one would only encounter in children’s literature. Hey arsehole try engaging brain before posting" A significant illustration of frugal individuals with below-average intelligence. This type of rhetoric illustrates the reasons this nation has reached a stage where Starmer is the Prime Minister of the UK. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell" Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please?" Would that include Sephardic Jews? | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.." In this case a lynch mob gets my vote x | |||
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"The increase in anti semitism and attacks on Jews in uk is a direct result of Netanyahu gaza policy to kill Palestinians, over 70000 and counting It appears that you consider these attacks to be commonplace and have devised a poor excuse for yourself, describing it as a trivial statement that one would only encounter in children’s literature. Hey arsehole try engaging brain before posting A significant illustration of frugal individuals with below-average intelligence. This type of rhetoric illustrates the reasons this nation has reached a stage where Starmer is the Prime Minister of the UK. Wow you are so aware. Im definitely of below average intelligence, IQ134, 2.1 from east anglia University. Never ever voted Labour. You are not as smart as you think you are. I used language you can understand arsehole. Now fuck off into your world of make believe where you live. " Indeed, I would shut down the university's shop to promote an underperforming individual as if he were exceptional. Furthermore, the language you are using reflects your level of education; perhaps you should share that narrative with your aunt, young man. If you possessed even a modicum of intelligence, you would support your claims instead of resorting to name-calling. I wager you have been dismissed multiple times due to the discovery of a fraudulent university document you submitted. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect And if the Palestinians continue to kill innocent people what can they expect? " Glad someone thinks the same as me | |||
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"The increase in anti semitism and attacks on Jews in uk is a direct result of Netanyahu gaza policy to kill Palestinians, over 70000 and counting It appears that you consider these attacks to be commonplace and have devised a poor excuse for yourself, describing it as a trivial statement that one would only encounter in children’s literature. Hey arsehole try engaging brain before posting A significant illustration of frugal individuals with below-average intelligence. This type of rhetoric illustrates the reasons this nation has reached a stage where Starmer is the Prime Minister of the UK. Wow you are so aware. Im definitely of below average intelligence, IQ134, 2.1 from east anglia University. Never ever voted Labour. You are not as smart as you think you are. I used language you can understand arsehole. Now fuck off into your world of make believe where you live. Indeed, I would shut down the university's shop to promote an underperforming individual as if he were exceptional. Furthermore, the language you are using reflects your level of education; perhaps you should share that narrative with your aunt, young man. If you possessed even a modicum of intelligence, you would support your claims instead of resorting to name-calling. I wager you have been dismissed multiple times due to the discovery of a fraudulent university document you submitted. You are something else, I've got better things to do with my time than engage with you. Just one thing look at the correlation between the increase in antisemitism and the attacks on gaza. Oh silly me you wouldn't know where to find or how to use such data. Bye bye arsehole " Indeed, if I were in your position, I would have left an hour ago, as I have not witnessed anyone here embarrass themselves quite like you have. Next time you return, please bring along that counterfeit university certificate that you have displayed on your wall, which you gaze at each morning to boost your ego. I am curious about who assessed your IQ; perhaps it was a fraudulent organisation | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please?" Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. | |||
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"Jean Charles de menenez..welcome to British justice...hahaha He was another victim of terrorism....you sound like an idf spokesman....that isn't a compliment btw.... De Menezes was shot by the Metropolitan Police Service at Stockwell Station of the London Underground, after being mistakenly identified as one of the fugitives from the previous day's failed bombing attempts. These attempts occurred two weeks after the 7 July 2005 London bombings, in which 52 people were killed. Had the terrorist attacks not occurred he would not have been shot and his death is directly linked to them. Understand now?....as I've said....you sound like an idf spokesman... The terrorist attacks in 2005 had nothing to do with Israel. You sound like a troll..the questionyou should be asking yourself..do you want a police force that follows the law....or do you want a bunch of thugs who randomly kick the shit out of a suspect before they've even established he's the right person...the Americans call it qualified immunity....a dangerous road to go down in my opinion " The suspect was identified to the officers by members of the public, and was clearly carrying a knife. He was non-compliant when challenged by the officers and continued towards them, still brandishing his deadly weapon. Despite being sprayed with CS and warned he would be taxed, he still continued. After being taxed and falling to the floor he failed to show his hands and still had the knife under his body. At this stage the.officers were by no means safe, not were the public, the suspect could well have had explosives strapped to his body which he was about to detonate. Using distraction strikes to the head under these circumstances was totally warranted, Indeed heroic. So much for you armchair critics. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right?" How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel. | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel." Agree | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month." ....slightly different than your latest version of events....? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel." | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month. They have their own Security Services & their own Ambulance Services ? Wonder why that is 🤔" Do you have the same suspicion and conspiracy theories for your local Neighbourhood Watch group or for St. John's Ambulance? Or do you just go on whether they are Jewish or not? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel. "Read the question again.  | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel.
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen." Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. | |||
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"Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please?" This question, is that any clearer? | |||
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"Shouldn't have tasered him,should have used a Glock instead. ...an advocate of law and order I see... Had armed officers been immediately available that could well have been the outcome, as it would in most other countries....what countries are you talking about...Russia, America I'm guessing... There are only 18 countries that don't routinely arm their police force - try harder...I was referring to police forces who routinely kill people without obvious consequences Which police forces routinely kill people without obvious consequences please? Israel. Iran But Israel are meant to be the good guys, right? How is this relevant? Golders Green is in London, not Israel.
Read the question again. "No, you do. I wasn't part of that conversation, and someone posed a question to you that requires your response. If you can't respond, then just let it go. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists." Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans." However, please address the question: why are you transitioning from point A to point B? You have once again fallen short. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans. However, please address the question: why are you transitioning from point A to point B? You have once again fallen short." All have been relevant responses to previous posts. I feel that you are being deliberately obtuse, perhaps because you lack anything important to add. | |||
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"No doubt some morons will want the officers sacked for kicking him!...so they should be...their job is not to administer summary justice...you'll be advocating lynch mobs next.. Are you serious? They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary....didn't you claim that Jewish security services had already detained the suspect...why kick him in the head and taser him? I simply repeated the Shomrim claim, as widely reported as the story was breaking: "Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested". Subsequent to that, and now a few hours ago, footage of him being detained has become widely available. Have a look and tell me again that the officers weren't completely justified in their actions. ...but you then celebrated him being kicked in the head...?...what happened to the "great British justice system "...? I already answered that, 'They were disarming a terrorist who'd just stabbed two innocent members of the public. Their actions were proportionate and necessary'. Please look at the arrest video and tell me why you disagree, if you still do. You really love throwing that word around don't you...tell us, if he'd stabbed a couple of Roman Catholics would he still be a terrorist? " If politically motivated, yes it would. | |||
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"Two people have been stabbed in Golders Green in north London after a man with a knife was seen running down the high street, attempting to stab Jewish people in the area. Shomrim, the Jewish community security organisation, said they responded immediately and detained a suspect. They said police then arrived and Tasered a man who has been arrested. The victims are being treated by Hatzola, whose ambulances were set on on fire across the road from today's incident last month.....slightly different than your latest version of events....?" As I already told you, none of these are 'my version', as I wasn't there. I've repeated news reports which, to be honest, pretty much amount to the same thing. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans. However, please address the question: why are you transitioning from point A to point B? You have once again fallen short. All have been relevant responses to previous posts. I feel that you are being deliberately obtuse, perhaps because you lack anything important to add." Your statement is not significant enough for me to contribute anything meaningful; it simply does not make sense, and you are unable to respond to it. Please return to me when you have a coherent answer. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans. However, please address the question: why are you transitioning from point A to point B? You have once again fallen short. All have been relevant responses to previous posts. I feel that you are being deliberately obtuse, perhaps because you lack anything important to add. Your statement is not significant enough for me to contribute anything meaningful; it simply does not make sense, and you are unable to respond to it. Please return to me when you have a coherent answer." I'm sorry, i lack patience in dealing with morons and it diminishes with every passing day. How about you scroll through the thread and study it carefully and then get back to me when you have something insightful or even relevant to contribute? | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans. However, please address the question: why are you transitioning from point A to point B? You have once again fallen short. All have been relevant responses to previous posts. I feel that you are being deliberately obtuse, perhaps because you lack anything important to add. Your statement is not significant enough for me to contribute anything meaningful; it simply does not make sense, and you are unable to respond to it. Please return to me when you have a coherent answer. I'm sorry, i lack patience in dealing with morons and it diminishes with every passing day. How about you scroll through the thread and study it carefully and then get back to me when you have something insightful or even relevant to contribute?" It is not a matter of patience; it is simply a lack of knowledge. Otherwise, why would you insult people? I don't need to read a bunch of nonsense from top to bottom. I will simplify my question once again.. You stated, The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. My question to you is: why are you referring to the Ayatollahs' regime? Do they comprehend anything about peace when they have bombed all the neighbouring Muslim countries and orchestrated the attack on October 7th? Why do you believe countries should heed the words of terrorists? It is a straightforward question. I am waiting... | |||
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" Why do you fail to acknowledge this as an anti-Semitic attack when it took place in the area that has the largest concentration of Jewish people in the UK, and the two victims were wearing traditional Orthodox Jewish clothing? Can you think of any other reason they were targeted? Wrong place wrong time? The usual suspects are jumping on the anti-semetic bandwagon because it suits the agenda they are peddling. No details of the attacker have been released yet, assumptions are being made (what the usual suspects want to happen), what if it just comes down to the fact the the two victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and this was just a random attack. And what happens to the assumptions if....THATS IF....it comes out that the knifeman is Jewish? Do the usual suspects carry on banging the same drum? Who are these usual suspects banging the same drum that you refer to? The victims were on their own home area, how can you possibly accuse them of being in the wrong place, they should be safe wherever they go. With regards to the anti-Semitic terrorist attacker, he was a Somalian Muslim who had travelled from South London." There is no mention in the police statement that the man is a muslim...thats the official police statement. So where did you get the muslim part from, or are you just making that assumption because he is from Somalia, a mostly Muslim country? Coming from that country does not make him a muslim, I British but I'm not christian. Just because you are from a place does not mean you follow that places religion. And usual suspects...do a Google search and alresdy there are inflammitory remarks from the Tories & GBNews. Both with a history of stoking the fires of division between cultures. | |||
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"It is not a matter of patience; it is simply a lack of knowledge. Otherwise, why would you insult people? I don't need to read a bunch of nonsense from top to bottom. I will simplify my question once again.. You stated, The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. My question to you is: why are you referring to the Ayatollahs' regime? Do they comprehend anything about peace when they have bombed all the neighbouring Muslim countries and orchestrated the attack on October 7th? Why do you believe countries should heed the words of terrorists? It is a straightforward question. I am waiting..." I apologise unreservedly for the insult. It's just an opinion, albeit one based on available evidence. I refer to Iran, meaning the Ayatollahs, simply because their recent actions have been solely in support of their proxies. If their proxies agree to an acceptable lasting peace then so will Iran, which they have clearly stated on numerous occasions. I would advise caution when levelling accusations of terrorism, it is entirely subjective. While i agree that Iran deserves such a demarcation by equal measure so does Israel and America, other western nations can be seen to be complicit in it. You appear to fail to see the link between the rise in terrorism by states such as Iran, and the exponential increase in Islamic extremism, and the betrayal of the Palestinian people in 1917 and the support of the west for the establishment of a state that should never have come into being in subsequent decades right to the present day. I believe that a lasting peace can be achieved but only by forcing Israel to behave. I trust that answers your question. | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Would that include Sephardic Jews?" Its not where you are from that makes you the 3rd worlder its the culture, nice try tho | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen." You are the one thats wrong, you should be thanking israel if it wasnt for them the muslims would have actual strength which they would use to invade our countries more than they are now and guess what you along with the rest of us would be dead | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. Who are the Iranians? Are you referring to the Nazi-like Ayatollahs? They do not represent Iran; they are merely a group of killers and murderers. This has nothing to do with the true Iranian people. They should withdraw and refrain from interfering in other nations, bombing wherever they please, yet they come forward to defend Hamas, whom they supply with weapons. It's ironic that you cite their claims, as they are indeed a group of terrorists. Equally you could be referring to the West, in particular Israel and the Americans." If you think the west are terrorists i challenge you to go to iran or palestine pr lebanon and let us know how you get on | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. You are the one thats wrong, you should be thanking israel if it wasnt for them the muslims would have actual strength which they would use to invade our countries more than they are now and guess what you along with the rest of us would be dead " Where on Earth do you get your information from? The Bumper Book of Zionist Rhetoric? | |||
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"It is not a matter of patience; it is simply a lack of knowledge. Otherwise, why would you insult people? I don't need to read a bunch of nonsense from top to bottom. I will simplify my question once again.. You stated, The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. My question to you is: why are you referring to the Ayatollahs' regime? Do they comprehend anything about peace when they have bombed all the neighbouring Muslim countries and orchestrated the attack on October 7th? Why do you believe countries should heed the words of terrorists? It is a straightforward question. I am waiting... I apologise unreservedly for the insult. It's just an opinion, albeit one based on available evidence. I refer to Iran, meaning the Ayatollahs, simply because their recent actions have been solely in support of their proxies. If their proxies agree to an acceptable lasting peace then so will Iran, which they have clearly stated on numerous occasions. I would advise caution when levelling accusations of terrorism, it is entirely subjective. While i agree that Iran deserves such a demarcation by equal measure so does Israel and America, other western nations can be seen to be complicit in it. You appear to fail to see the link between the rise in terrorism by states such as Iran, and the exponential increase in Islamic extremism, and the betrayal of the Palestinian people in 1917 and the support of the west for the establishment of a state that should never have come into being in subsequent decades right to the present day. I believe that a lasting peace can be achieved but only by forcing Israel to behave. I trust that answers your question. " Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception" True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity. | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity." It's sad that so many posters fail to see the irony of their posts. | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity." Actually yes more than Judaism and Christianity, They are actually the biggest colonisers on the planet | |||
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"A despicable act of course, but no-one should be surprised that this has happened nor that it will continue to happen. If governments really want these kinds of attacks to stop then a perfectly simple solution exists yet they refuse to even consider it. And the solution is???? Pray tell Deport all the 3rd worlders, thats the solution, can you people stop asking what he means and just use your brain please? Wrong on many levels. The simple solution is for the West to finally find it's balls and force Israel (a thorn in the side of the Middle East) to cede land back to the Palestinians, no less than half would be fair, for an independent, sovereign state of Palestine in exchange for lasting peace. The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. Of course this is never going to happen. You are the one thats wrong, you should be thanking israel if it wasnt for them the muslims would have actual strength which they would use to invade our countries more than they are now and guess what you along with the rest of us would be dead Where on Earth do you get your information from? The Bumper Book of Zionist Rhetoric?" Zionist Rhetoric? Is there something wrong with you? What happens to gsys in the middle east? | |||
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"It is not a matter of patience; it is simply a lack of knowledge. Otherwise, why would you insult people? I don't need to read a bunch of nonsense from top to bottom. I will simplify my question once again.. You stated, The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. My question to you is: why are you referring to the Ayatollahs' regime? Do they comprehend anything about peace when they have bombed all the neighbouring Muslim countries and orchestrated the attack on October 7th? Why do you believe countries should heed the words of terrorists? It is a straightforward question. I am waiting... I apologise unreservedly for the insult. It's just an opinion, albeit one based on available evidence. I refer to Iran, meaning the Ayatollahs, simply because their recent actions have been solely in support of their proxies. If their proxies agree to an acceptable lasting peace then so will Iran, which they have clearly stated on numerous occasions. I would advise caution when levelling accusations of terrorism, it is entirely subjective. While i agree that Iran deserves such a demarcation by equal measure so does Israel and America, other western nations can be seen to be complicit in it. You appear to fail to see the link between the rise in terrorism by states such as Iran, and the exponential increase in Islamic extremism, and the betrayal of the Palestinian people in 1917 and the support of the west for the establishment of a state that should never have come into being in subsequent decades right to the present day. I believe that a lasting peace can be achieved but only by forcing Israel to behave. I trust that answers your question. " Iran's proxies do not operate independently; they are solely directed by the terrorist regime of Iran (the Ayatollahs). This regime supplies the majority of Hezbollah's financial resources, with annual estimates frequently between $700 million and over $1 billion in recent years. All of these proxies receive training from the Iranian military. If the Islamic regime were to collapse, you would not find any of their proxies anywhere in the world. It is not particularly challenging to recognize that a regime qualifies as a terrorist regime when it kills 40,000 of its own citizens, in addition to launching missiles at 12 different countries that do not align with its ideology. | |||
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"It is intriguing that all European Union countries have designated the IRGC as a terrorist organization, along with Canada, Australia, the United States, and numerous South American nations, yet you continue to question whether this designation is justified. 🤣🤣 " Its just another chicken for KFC terrorist lover, not really worth our time conversing with em tbh | |||
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"It is not a matter of patience; it is simply a lack of knowledge. Otherwise, why would you insult people? I don't need to read a bunch of nonsense from top to bottom. I will simplify my question once again.. You stated, The Iranians have already stated on many occasions that they would abide by any peace deal the Palestinians accept. My question to you is: why are you referring to the Ayatollahs' regime? Do they comprehend anything about peace when they have bombed all the neighbouring Muslim countries and orchestrated the attack on October 7th? Why do you believe countries should heed the words of terrorists? It is a straightforward question. I am waiting... I apologise unreservedly for the insult. It's just an opinion, albeit one based on available evidence. I refer to Iran, meaning the Ayatollahs, simply because their recent actions have been solely in support of their proxies. If their proxies agree to an acceptable lasting peace then so will Iran, which they have clearly stated on numerous occasions. I would advise caution when levelling accusations of terrorism, it is entirely subjective. While i agree that Iran deserves such a demarcation by equal measure so does Israel and America, other western nations can be seen to be complicit in it. You appear to fail to see the link between the rise in terrorism by states such as Iran, and the exponential increase in Islamic extremism, and the betrayal of the Palestinian people in 1917 and the support of the west for the establishment of a state that should never have come into being in subsequent decades right to the present day. I believe that a lasting peace can be achieved but only by forcing Israel to behave. I trust that answers your question. Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception" | |||
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"It is intriguing that all European Union countries have designated the IRGC as a terrorist organization, along with Canada, Australia, the United States, and numerous South American nations, yet you continue to question whether this designation is justified. 🤣🤣 Its just another chicken for KFC terrorist lover, not really worth our time conversing with em tbh" | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect " Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. The problem is that the country is surrounded by people who want to destroy it every minute of every day for 78 years. Now we get these mothers on our streets from some shithole brainwashed by another cnt from another shithole trying to murder innocent people here in London. I notice no calls for calm from the Muslim community. They always call for calm when they get attacked such as after the 3 children were murdered in Southport. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. " Golders Green is in London though, and the victims were British. They have nothing to do with Israel. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. The problem is that the country is surrounded by people who want to destroy it every minute of every day for 78 years. Now we get these mothers on our streets from some shithole brainwashed by another cnt from another shithole trying to murder innocent people here in London. I notice no calls for calm from the Muslim community. They always call for calm when they get attacked such as after the 3 children were murdered in Southport. " | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. The problem is that the country is surrounded by people who want to destroy it every minute of every day for 78 years. Now we get these mothers on our streets from some shithole brainwashed by another cnt from another shithole trying to murder innocent people here in London. I notice no calls for calm from the Muslim community. They always call for calm when they get attacked such as after the 3 children were murdered in Southport. " Funnily enough, Golders Green sits next to Finchley, where I live, and is home to one of the largest populations of Iranians outside of Iran itself, mainly Muslim. Both communities live happily and peacefully, side-by-side with no animosity, and regularly condemn these atrocities. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. The problem is that the country is surrounded by people who want to destroy it every minute of every day for 78 years. Now we get these mothers on our streets from some shithole brainwashed by another cnt from another shithole trying to murder innocent people here in London. I notice no calls for calm from the Muslim community. They always call for calm when they get attacked such as after the 3 children were murdered in Southport. Funnily enough, Golders Green sits next to Finchley, where I live, and is home to one of the largest populations of Iranians outside of Iran itself, mainly Muslim. Both communities live happily and peacefully, side-by-side with no animosity, and regularly condemn these atrocities. " The Iranian people do not have issues with Jewish individuals; rather, it is the ayatollahs and the terrorist elements of the Islamic Republic that pose the real problems. Their flawed ideology should be discarded, and these individuals must be eliminated to achieve global peace. | |||
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"If the Israelis continue to kill innocent people this is what they can expect Hamas,Hezbollah,Ayatollahs,Houthis are innocent people ? October 7th saw 1200 innocent people killed,murdered,raped and over 250 taken including toddlers and the elderly. Leave Israel alone and it will leave you alone. The problem is that the country is surrounded by people who want to destroy it every minute of every day for 78 years. Now we get these mothers on our streets from some shithole brainwashed by another cnt from another shithole trying to murder innocent people here in London. I notice no calls for calm from the Muslim community. They always call for calm when they get attacked such as after the 3 children were murdered in Southport. " I haven’t noticed either , sick in their heads | |||
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"The green Party leader is saying that the police were over the top in arresting the terrorist scum, should have just shot him. " Detainment and arrest was absolutely textbook. Polanski is unfit for purpose, a total wanker. | |||
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"The green Party leader is saying that the police were over the top in arresting the terrorist scum, should have just shot him. Detainment and arrest was absolutely textbook. Polanski is unfit for purpose, a total wanker." I agree. He's dangerous | |||
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"Is it just me or is there a certain irony to a man from Somalia, a country where hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed weekly, in a civil war, and that carried out ethnic genocide to exterminate up to 1/2 million of its own citizens, has stabbed 2 people that are vaguely linked to a country doing something similar?" Yes it's you. The two men were doing nothing but going about their own business in Golders Green. | |||
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"Is it just me or is there a certain irony to a man from Somalia, a country where hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed weekly, in a civil war, and that carried out ethnic genocide to exterminate up to 1/2 million of its own citizens, has stabbed 2 people that are vaguely linked to a country doing something similar? Yes it's you. The two men were doing nothing but going about their own business in Golders Green. " I was more getting at the person who did it, rather than the people it was done to. A man that actually came from a country that has done horrific things rather than two that were vaguely linked to one. | |||
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"Is it just me or is there a certain irony to a man from Somalia, a country where hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed weekly, in a civil war, and that carried out ethnic genocide to exterminate up to 1/2 million of its own citizens, has stabbed 2 people that are vaguely linked to a country doing something similar?" It's a pretty twisted logic that causes someone to stab two innocent British people on the streets of our capital city for no good reason at all. | |||
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"Is it just me or is there a certain irony to a man from Somalia, a country where hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed weekly, in a civil war, and that carried out ethnic genocide to exterminate up to 1/2 million of its own citizens, has stabbed 2 people that are vaguely linked to a country doing something similar? It's a pretty twisted logic that causes someone to stab two innocent British people on the streets of our capital city for no good reason at all." Totally agree. There are some very twisted people roaming our streets. | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity. Actually yes more than Judaism and Christianity, They are actually the biggest colonisers on the planet " Actually i think you'll find that in a league table that includes all the world's religions over all time it's the Christians that are way out in front. I suggest you re-evaluate your definition of colonialism. | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity. Actually yes more than Judaism and Christianity, They are actually the biggest colonisers on the planet Actually i think you'll find that in a league table that includes all the world's religions over all time it's the Christians that are way out in front. I suggest you re-evaluate your definition of colonialism." Maybe you should get your self some education, Christianity spread the most throughout the world thanks to for the most part Missionaries The Religion that has conquered and violently colonised the most is Islam. Try again though. | |||
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"Islam has been a warring colonising terroristic religion since its conception True in part but no more than both Judaism and Christianity. Actually yes more than Judaism and Christianity, They are actually the biggest colonisers on the planet Actually i think you'll find that in a league table that includes all the world's religions over all time it's the Christians that are way out in front. I suggest you re-evaluate your definition of colonialism. Maybe you should get your self some education, Christianity spread the most throughout the world thanks to for the most part Missionaries The Religion that has conquered and violently colonised the most is Islam. Try again though." Europeans (predominantly Christian) conquered North America and committed the worst genocide in history against the indigenous peoples. Over 55 million have died then and in subsequent years as a result reducing the population by over 90%. Just one example of many. What has Islam done that even comes close to that? | |||
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"I agree, islam is the most divisive and intolerant religion of them all, look at the amount of countries ruled by islamic despots who have no tolerance of other religions in there own country and export there hatred and outdated beliefs to other countries" Have you considered why that is? All i'm seeing is western rhetoric aimed at demonising Islam in a pathetic attempt to justify hatred. | |||
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"What has Islam done that even comes close to that? " I think youre cutting your cloth to fit... The predominant reason deaths in the Americas came from disease, not from Christian doctrine or deliberate Christian violence. Its the unintended biological impact of mass movement. Blaming Christianity for smallpox is like blaming Islam for the black death in the middle east. If your poijt is about intentional killing, other empires religions surpass Christianity... if we compare intentional violence, then: The Mongol conquests The Timurid campaigns The An Lushan rebellion The Taiping civil war The Islamic conquests in Persia, India, and North Africa …all produced massive 'intentional' casualties, often far exceeding European 'warfare' in the Americas. The Americas would have suffered the same collapse if the first arrivals had been muslim sailors from the abbasid caliphate or chinese explorers from the Ming dynasty. The inconvenience of this for you is the outcome was baked into biology you see...NOT theology. See we didnt really understand biological impacts at that level then am afraid. But then in accepting this you cant embrace that beautiful self loathing . | |||
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"A very simplistic view, but if we did away with all religions, and just believed in humanity would that stop all the hatred?" No, we would just kill each other over something else | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative" We'll have to wait until if we ever, find out what his motive was before we know if it was anti-semitic or not. | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative We'll have to wait until if we ever, find out what his motive was before we know if it was anti-semitic or not." Seeing how the attacker singled out two obviously Jewish people in one of the most Jewish areas in the UK, that the government and Metropolitan Police have labelled it as an anti-Semitic attack, one of many in the area recently, I don't see much of a mystery with regards to the motive. | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative We'll have to wait until if we ever, find out what his motive was before we know if it was anti-semitic or not. Seeing how the attacker singled out two obviously Jewish people in one of the most Jewish areas in the UK, that the government and Metropolitan Police have labelled it as an anti-Semitic attack, one of many in the area recently, I don't see much of a mystery with regards to the motive." And the third victim? Or is he an 'inconvenience' so should be ignored? Yes the police have labelled it 'anti-semitic,' and the evidence shows there is a strong anti-semitic motivation, but that over simplifies the event. | |||
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"I suppose if you are a middle aged nutjob out to hurt people then discerning your targets is not that high on the priority list. " If that's the case, why would he travel from Southwark all the way to Golders Green and attack Jewish people? If he was attacking people at random he would have had hundreds of other opportunities before he got there. | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative" Maybe he was misheard/misunderstood. Maybe he was just asking for directions to 'Allan's Snack Bar'. | |||
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"Most of these attacks are just idiots. I think calling these Terrorists is wrong. They are just useless thugs!" Didn't know there was a minimum IQ threshold for terrorists. Aren't the ones that carry out the acts, by definition, useful idiots. | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative Maybe he was misheard/misunderstood. Maybe he was just asking for directions to 'Allan's Snack Bar'. "Well there's a Grodzinski's literally yards from where he carried out the stabbings, maybe he doesn't like salt beef or chopped herring. | |||
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"It wasn't simply an 'anti semitic' attack, the first victim was a Muslim guy, 2 & 3 were Jewish; doesn't stop it being awful and wrong, but it does slightly change the narrative We'll have to wait until if we ever, find out what his motive was before we know if it was anti-semitic or not. Seeing how the attacker singled out two obviously Jewish people in one of the most Jewish areas in the UK, that the government and Metropolitan Police have labelled it as an anti-Semitic attack, one of many in the area recently, I don't see much of a mystery with regards to the motive. And the third victim? Or is he an 'inconvenience' so should be ignored? Yes the police have labelled it 'anti-semitic,' and the evidence shows there is a strong anti-semitic motivation, but that over simplifies the event." I think you're the one who's over complicating matters. The first victim was his best friend apparently, we'll have to wait for further details. | |||
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"Most of these attacks are just idiots. I think calling these Terrorists is wrong. They are just useless thugs!" Oh dear. | |||
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