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"This thread is an old hobby horse of mine! My dogs have been staring at me thinking, but we’re overdue our walk but I had to dig out a thing I wrote a while back. In 2009 I did a team building day with a new team and the first question was which three people alive or dead would you have for lunch and lots in the group had their favourite footballer and I had Bismarck, Aquin of York and St Paul. 17 years later my list has changed (though I’d happily take any of or indeed all three out for a coffee and a smashed avo) but I keep going back to that exercise. One colleague picked Robert Redford because he was handsome. Not a bad pick. But that is the worst reason. There were so many better reasons to want to meet Bob! I knew we would not be friends. The colleague not Bob. I’d have love to meet him. To talk about Sundance etc. and to eye up how handsome he was. But back to my table. And first of all, it’s a round table, very Arthurian, very equitable, and very suitable for eating buffet style. And second of all it’s vegetarian. So by default halal and kosher and very unobjectionable. I’m having seven guests, six are dead which is the homework set, but I’m bringing one live person cause the shades of the dead ain’t going to be helping with the washing up! To my left, I have Mary Secole. I kick off asking for her war stories. She’s blunt, funny, dealt with British brass in Crimea. She’ll warm the conversation up and keep the vibe grounded in real human stakes, not just theory. She was a widow who wanted to help the war effort in the Crimea. She was trained in basic nursing and with a legacy she self-funded a trip to the front, and set up the “British Hotel” to treat wounded soldiers. She pioneered battlefield nursing and tropical medicine. Those well enough to transport were sent back to Scutari in Istanbul where the more famous Nightingale did what she did in a War Office funded hospital. Those that were too unwell to travel were left to Mary, but with no state funding. Thing is more of Mary’s patients survived, despite being a sicker cohort; Florence to her credit used her statistical training to spot this and recognised the difference - Mary had insisted on handwashing. Florence Nightingale was an upper class Englishwomen with great connections and was awarded by Queen Victoria with the Order of Merit. Mary Seacole was Black and Creole. To her left from Academia, I would have the chap who practically invented sociology, historiography, and economics about 400 years before Europeans thought about them. He theorised the rise and fall of Empires and Mary lived it, and he will love her field data for the theories that filled The Muqaddimah which studied social cohesion, economic cycles, and the rise and fall of civilizations. Every modern social science textbook traces back to him. Ibn Khaldun was writing in England whilst the Black Death was ravaging England. Next round the table, I shall put Begum Rokeya. She was a Bengali writer and educationalist. I will put her beside IBM Khaldun not because of their shared Muslim heritage, but because of their social policy interest. He written on how their form and she on how to break them. He wrote on how empires control peoples and she fought to free her people from one. Just like with Mary to his right, he can see his theory in action. Rokeya campaigned for education of girls making her unpopular with her colonial overloads but also with the local independence movements (both the Muslim and Hindu varieties). She also pioneered utopian SciFi and her novel Sultana’s Dream sees an ideal world run by women - and let’s face it the current male dominated one can’t be much more fucked up. Ironically unknown in feminist circles as well as SciFi, Educationalist and Nationalist historical circles, it appears the western feminists are as racist as the rest are misogynist. To he left, I am coming back to Europe, but keeping with the fighting the system theme. Sitting next to Rokeya is Bartolomé de las Casas. Both were advocates for those who had less and both were seen as less by those in power. Neither are remembered nearly as much as they should be. They will bond I am sure! And I would have to have the founder of Wokery and Bleeding Heart Liberalism, Father de las Casas. He was a 16th century Catholic priest - who knew - a good one! He fought against Spanish brutality in the Americas. His writings got the New Laws of 1542 passed and this was the first attempt to end colonial sl@very and it introduced the legal concept of “universal human rights.” Next left over I am breaking all the rules and going Man-Man! But I think the fight-the-empire priest might have a lot to discuss with the use-the-empire mandarin so I am next seating Wang Anshi. One appealed to the king’s soul to force the crown to see the error of its ways. The other used the emperor’s tax setting powers to share the wealth. Wang Anshi was a civil servant in eleventh century China, (the century of Cnut, Edward the Confessor , Harold, William I, Henry I etc). Over in China he was creating the first state welfare system, low-interest farm loans, public hospitals, and progressive taxation. He invented what he called New Policies which were a blueprint for the modern welfare state 900 years early before Bismarck introduced the Old Age Pension or Attlee introduced the NHS. His New Policies foreshadowed the New Deal. To his left, I move to the world of the Arts, and to Artemisia Gentileschi who was a baroque painter who put female rage and power on canvas 400 years ago. He had immense power and fell from grace and she started from nothing - considered worthless even at home, and I sure she will be interested in his support for artisans in the imperial workshops though will ask why they excluded women. After surviving r@pe and a public trial, Artemisia painted a masterpiece depicting Judith Slaying Holofernes — a graphic, vengeful masterpiece that became a #MeToo icon centuries later. She became the first woman admitted to Florence’s Academy of Fine Arts despite her father telling her training her was a waste of his time. She changed what women were allowed to paint and how. Art history canon sidelined women. Caravaggio got the spotlight - the genteel art world were happier to see the work of a convicted murder hung on the walls of their churches and galleries than that of a women because art should have true emotion and women should not have deep feelings. So my final guest to the left of Artemisia (and therefore also to my right) is Elif Shafak. I know women-by-women - the dowager-countess would be scandalised. I know Shafak is alive but as I said I ain’t doing all these dishes by myself. She is a Turkish novelist and commentator who lives in exile in London. As well as being a great writer (and a B from the LGBT+) she is a great communicator and brings together various streams of thought - I enjoyed her TedTalk. I think she can key in to all my dead dudes and dudettes so she can help keep the conversation going! And I think she has her own story to tell. "  | |||
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"This thread is an old hobby horse of mine! My dogs have been staring at me thinking, but we’re overdue our walk but I had to dig out a thing I wrote a while back. In 2009 I did a team building day with a new team and the first question was which three people alive or dead would you have for lunch and lots in the group had their favourite footballer and I had Bismarck, Aquin of York and St Paul. 17 years later my list has changed (though I’d happily take any of or indeed all three out for a coffee and a smashed avo) but I keep going back to that exercise. One colleague picked Robert Redford because he was handsome. Not a bad pick. But that is the worst reason. There were so many better reasons to want to meet Bob! I knew we would not be friends. The colleague not Bob. I’d have love to meet him. To talk about Sundance etc. and to eye up how handsome he was. But back to my table. And first of all, it’s a round table, very Arthurian, very equitable, and very suitable for eating buffet style. And second of all it’s vegetarian. So by default halal and kosher and very unobjectionable. I’m having seven guests, six are dead which is the homework set, but I’m bringing one live person cause the shades of the dead ain’t going to be helping with the washing up! To my left, I have Mary Secole. I kick off asking for her war stories. She’s blunt, funny, dealt with British brass in Crimea. She’ll warm the conversation up and keep the vibe grounded in real human stakes, not just theory. She was a widow who wanted to help the war effort in the Crimea. She was trained in basic nursing and with a legacy she self-funded a trip to the front, and set up the “British Hotel” to treat wounded soldiers. She pioneered battlefield nursing and tropical medicine. Those well enough to transport were sent back to Scutari in Istanbul where the more famous Nightingale did what she did in a War Office funded hospital. Those that were too unwell to travel were left to Mary, but with no state funding. Thing is more of Mary’s patients survived, despite being a sicker cohort; Florence to her credit used her statistical training to spot this and recognised the difference - Mary had insisted on handwashing. Florence Nightingale was an upper class Englishwomen with great connections and was awarded by Queen Victoria with the Order of Merit. Mary Seacole was Black and Creole. To her left from Academia, I would have the chap who practically invented sociology, historiography, and economics about 400 years before Europeans thought about them. He theorised the rise and fall of Empires and Mary lived it, and he will love her field data for the theories that filled The Muqaddimah which studied social cohesion, economic cycles, and the rise and fall of civilizations. Every modern social science textbook traces back to him. Ibn Khaldun was writing in England whilst the Black Death was ravaging England. Next round the table, I shall put Begum Rokeya. She was a Bengali writer and educationalist. I will put her beside IBM Khaldun not because of their shared Muslim heritage, but because of their social policy interest. He written on how their form and she on how to break them. He wrote on how empires control peoples and she fought to free her people from one. Just like with Mary to his right, he can see his theory in action. Rokeya campaigned for education of girls making her unpopular with her colonial overloads but also with the local independence movements (both the Muslim and Hindu varieties). She also pioneered utopian SciFi and her novel Sultana’s Dream sees an ideal world run by women - and let’s face it the current male dominated one can’t be much more fucked up. Ironically unknown in feminist circles as well as SciFi, Educationalist and Nationalist historical circles, it appears the western feminists are as racist as the rest are misogynist. To he left, I am coming back to Europe, but keeping with the fighting the system theme. Sitting next to Rokeya is Bartolomé de las Casas. Both were advocates for those who had less and both were seen as less by those in power. Neither are remembered nearly as much as they should be. They will bond I am sure! And I would have to have the founder of Wokery and Bleeding Heart Liberalism, Father de las Casas. He was a 16th century Catholic priest - who knew - a good one! He fought against Spanish brutality in the Americas. His writings got the New Laws of 1542 passed and this was the first attempt to end colonial sl@very and it introduced the legal concept of “universal human rights.” Next left over I am breaking all the rules and going Man-Man! But I think the fight-the-empire priest might have a lot to discuss with the use-the-empire mandarin so I am next seating Wang Anshi. One appealed to the king’s soul to force the crown to see the error of its ways. The other used the emperor’s tax setting powers to share the wealth. Wang Anshi was a civil servant in eleventh century China, (the century of Cnut, Edward the Confessor , Harold, William I, Henry I etc). Over in China he was creating the first state welfare system, low-interest farm loans, public hospitals, and progressive taxation. He invented what he called New Policies which were a blueprint for the modern welfare state 900 years early before Bismarck introduced the Old Age Pension or Attlee introduced the NHS. His New Policies foreshadowed the New Deal. To his left, I move to the world of the Arts, and to Artemisia Gentileschi who was a baroque painter who put female rage and power on canvas 400 years ago. He had immense power and fell from grace and she started from nothing - considered worthless even at home, and I sure she will be interested in his support for artisans in the imperial workshops though will ask why they excluded women. After surviving r@pe and a public trial, Artemisia painted a masterpiece depicting Judith Slaying Holofernes — a graphic, vengeful masterpiece that became a #MeToo icon centuries later. She became the first woman admitted to Florence’s Academy of Fine Arts despite her father telling her training her was a waste of his time. She changed what women were allowed to paint and how. Art history canon sidelined women. Caravaggio got the spotlight - the genteel art world were happier to see the work of a convicted murder hung on the walls of their churches and galleries than that of a women because art should have true emotion and women should not have deep feelings. So my final guest to the left of Artemisia (and therefore also to my right) is Elif Shafak. I know women-by-women - the dowager-countess would be scandalised. I know Shafak is alive but as I said I ain’t doing all these dishes by myself. She is a Turkish novelist and commentator who lives in exile in London. As well as being a great writer (and a B from the LGBT+) she is a great communicator and brings together various streams of thought - I enjoyed her TedTalk. I think she can key in to all my dead dudes and dudettes so she can help keep the conversation going! And I think she has her own story to tell. " Kudos for the thought involved!! It put the racking my brains trying to think of a dead porn star to shame  | |||
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"Caligula Jack the Ripper Fred west Andre chikatilo Alistair Crowley Tommy cooper " . . ... The waiting staff have all phoned in sick. | |||
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"For my Trumpton themed dinner party I would invite Pugh Pugh Barney McGrew Cuthbert and Dibble to enjoy the grub." You know Barney McGrew is one person right? So you get to choose another one? Or does grub refer to Fireman Grubb and he's being "enjoyed" by the others? | |||
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"Caligula Jack the Ripper Fred west Andre chikatilo Alistair Crowley Tommy cooper . . ... The waiting staff have all phoned in sick." Dunno Tommy cooper would provide some light relief before the main attraction begins lol | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 " Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉 | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉" I'm happy to be the naked wine waiter..... | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉" Sorry, but I'd have to drop wildwest and swap for...they've left now 😞..but kept calling people 'Gordons' in threads | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉 I'm happy to be the naked wine waiter....." Butler in the buff | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉" Oh I’m definitely in. 👍 | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉 Sorry, but I'd have to drop wildwest and swap for...they've left now 😞..but kept calling people 'Gordons' in threads " The dame with the flames. I think that would have been a tough gig evening and I would have hit the Campari very hard… | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 " Well thank you, I'll bring a box of After Eights and a bottle of Kylie Rose | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉 Sorry, but I'd have to drop wildwest and swap for...they've left now 😞..but kept calling people 'Gordons' in threads " Spoilsport. Unless you are considering my health as I'm teetotal and don't eat after 6pm.  | |||
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"For my Trumpton themed dinner party I would invite Pugh Pugh Barney McGrew Cuthbert and Dibble to enjoy the grub. You know Barney McGrew is one person right? So you get to choose another one? Or does grub refer to Fireman Grubb and he's being "enjoyed" by the others? " You're right. I completely forgot. I never was much good at hosting parties. | |||
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Pmsl 🤣 I’m definitely in 😉 Sorry, but I'd have to drop wildwest and swap for...they've left now 😞..but kept calling people 'Gordons' in threads Spoilsport. Unless you are considering my health as I'm teetotal and don't eat after 6pm. "No offence, if I was allowed 7 you would have stayed but I had to pick one. You displayed occasional moments of sanity, it was your downfall. 
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"My fabguys dinner party…..🤣 Blackbootz Richey3 G3vers Star33 Rugged Northerner Wildwesthero I’m sure the conversation will be scintillating and the chemistry electric….🤣😂🤣 Well thank you, I'll bring a box of After Eights and a bottle of Kylie Rose" Oh Good Lord, no. 🙄 I’m so going to have to teach you how to use the cutlery for the fish course and how to unfold a proper linen napkin, aren’t I..? You can sit on my left so I can keep an eye on you whilst I’m playing footsie with _ugged northerner on the right. | |||
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"Granger Granger55 Paul aged 53 Peter aged 57 His wife A dom guy" When the first course is wheeled in by waiters - it’s presented in a giant silver entree tureen with a cloche… To great fanfare, the cloche is removed… to reveal a straggly public bush crawling with crayfish… | |||
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"Granger Granger55 Paul aged 53 Peter aged 57 His wife A dom guy When the first course is wheeled in by waiters - it’s presented in a giant silver entree tureen with a cloche… To great fanfare, the cloche is removed… to reveal a straggly public bush crawling with crayfish… " Are the waiters cuckold though | |||
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"Granger Granger55 Paul aged 53 Peter aged 57 His wife A dom guy When the first course is wheeled in by waiters - it’s presented in a giant silver entree tureen with a cloche… To great fanfare, the cloche is removed… to reveal a straggly public bush crawling with crayfish… Are the waiters cuckold though" I think that all depends on the dom guy and his accomplishment in forcible public bush trimming. | |||
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