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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures" a Reform are anti gay..anti nhs..and generally supported by racist arseholes | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news " True actually! | |||
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"If they're illegal then they've got no documentation etc. So how did they count them?" They arrived on a small boat from France - simples! | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually!" I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. | |||
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"If they're illegal then they've got no documentation etc. So how did they count them? They arrived on a small boat from France - simples!" 1000 of them? More like a fucking big boat, then. | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. " It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat. | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat." So please explain the correct procedure | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures" *Government. Dave's regular rage bait post about brown people. Go on Dave, tell us all again for the millionth time how Christian you are whilst demonstrating your raging intolerance for anyone that isn't a white, middle class Tory or Faragist from the south of England. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figuresa Reform are anti gay..anti nhs..and generally supported by racist arseholes" Guess what, the illegals let into the country are way more anti gay than any reform politician | |||
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"Are they all joining FAB? If not who really cares????" Exactly this. Why repeat this racist nonsense on here? No one needs it. | |||
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"Who would you hate if there was no boat people ? " Dave has an extensive list. Though it's more a case of 'and' rather than 'or'. | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat. So please explain the correct procedure " The correct procedure for any genuine refugee is to claim asylum in the first "safe" country they get to after escaping. Clearly if you're getting on a boat in France (safe country) to come to the UK then you have abused the system. So why come to the UK? Free NHS, free benefits, housing etc etc, opportunity to find work (legal or otherwise) be with kin etc etc. It's not racist to challenge the actions of these people, the UK is under enough pressure to support its residents as it is. The Australian system is that anyone claiming refugee status is dealt with either off shore or in detention centres, if you are genuine then you get to stay and good luck to you. Let's be honest about this, most of the "refugees" are young men looking for a better life but wanting to by-pass the legal migration routes. Very few actual genuine refugees land here and those that do, are more than welcome | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figuresa Reform are anti gay..anti nhs..and generally supported by racist arseholes Guess what, the illegals let into the country are way more anti gay than any reform politician" Probably true | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figuresa Reform are anti gay..anti nhs..and generally supported by racist arseholes" That’s not true or very fair  | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures *Government. Dave's regular rage bait post about brown people. Go on Dave, tell us all again for the millionth time how Christian you are whilst demonstrating your raging intolerance for anyone that isn't a white, middle class Tory or Faragist from the south of England." Hes like a little kid playing knock knock ginger, he spouts some factless BS then hides away and doesnt reply to any counter-posts. Then on the rare occasions he does reply, its just to spout more BS then go back under his rock. As a great man once said...dont feed the troll. | |||
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"If they're illegal then they've got no documentation etc. So how did they count them?" They assist them here and given them a phone and a coach trip to a hotel whilst they’re being ‘processed’ if you spend your life reading the Daily Fail or The Scum or watching the BBC you’d NEVER understand the REAL news. | |||
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"The subject of illegal immigrants/dinghy people comes up time and time again on here. Quite a controversial subject. Are they genuine asylum seekers. Virtually every political party promises to solve the pr or just economic migrants hoping for a cushy life? Who knows. The fact they are still arriving is the main platform for the Faragite party to keep drumming up support." Which is in itself rather a good case for ending the people-trafficking, isn't it? PS (@ someone else) If we don't know whether they're illegal or not the fact that they've paid £000's to a criminal gang for a dangerous trip in an overloaded rubber boat in order to avoid immigration controls might serve as a vague clue... | |||
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"The subject of illegal immigrants/dinghy people comes up time and time again on here. Quite a controversial subject. Are they genuine asylum seekers. Virtually every political party promises to solve the pr or just economic migrants hoping for a cushy life? Who knows. The fact they are still arriving is the main platform for the Faragite party to keep drumming up support. Which is in itself rather a good case for ending the people-trafficking, isn't it? PS (@ someone else) If we don't know whether they're illegal or not the fact that they've paid £000's to a criminal gang for a dangerous trip in an overloaded rubber boat in order to avoid immigration controls might serve as a vague clue..." It’s hard to stop when the people supposedly stopping it I.E. The government are actively supporting them coming over here. There are guys in France actively slashing the dinghies that are RETURNING daily to France empty just to be refilled. FACT. IF the government were serious they’d do two simple things. 1, put the navy in the channel. 2, stop giving our money to them. | |||
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"According to the Government's official web site recent arrival numbers are: May 22nd - 394 May 23rd - 287 May 24th - 231 May 25th - 77 So, 989 in total." It will be because of the good weather and calm waters. | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat. So please explain the correct procedure " Apply for a visa with proof that you can fund your own stay. | |||
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"Oh why keep going on about this it’s not going to stop if a country that gives you everything you want when you arrive who wouldn’t come I certainly would if my country was in deep shit nothing to live for I’d do the same think about it before you comment on this what would you do ???" I would expect to be intensely disliked by the natives. Especially if it looked as if my needs trumped theirs. | |||
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"Look up the number of small boat crossing between France and UK in the 4 years before we left The EU " Ps I meant to add DON'T look if you voted for Brexit | |||
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"Oh why keep going on about this it’s not going to stop if a country that gives you everything you want when you arrive who wouldn’t come I certainly would if my country was in deep shit nothing to live for I’d do the same think about it before you comment on this what would you do ??? I would expect to be intensely disliked by the natives. Especially if it looked as if my needs trumped theirs." Yes you would be disliked that’s only obvious but if you got nothing and you getting everything given what the hell would you care what the natives think I’d say fuck you im ok now Untill one government decides to stop handing out everything to these people then it might deter them but not gonna happen all the parties do is say they stop it to get into power then find out you can’t ain’t rocket science really if you think about it | |||
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"Oh why keep going on about this it’s not going to stop if a country that gives you everything you want when you arrive who wouldn’t come I certainly would if my country was in deep shit nothing to live for I’d do the same think about it before you comment on this what would you do ??? I would expect to be intensely disliked by the natives. Especially if it looked as if my needs trumped theirs. Yes you would be disliked that’s only obvious but if you got nothing and you getting everything given what the hell would you care what the natives think I’d say fuck you im ok now Untill one government decides to stop handing out everything to these people then it might deter them but not gonna happen all the parties do is say they stop it to get into power then find out you can’t ain’t rocket science really if you think about it " Agree with you. But what pisses me off is the number of bleeding hearts who keep telling me it's wrong to discourage illegal immigration. It's absolutely right, and justifiable. | |||
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"Look up the number of small boat crossing between France and UK in the 4 years before we left The EU Ps I meant to add DON'T look if you voted for Brexit " Source? Did you even look it up yourself? Let's assume it was The Guardian; it usually is. And just a little context is missing here: why did the boats start increasing ? Oh yes. Lorries started getting searched a bit more efficiently. Also: "The authorities have suggested that the boat route was only used sporadically until 2018 when arrivals increased. For example, only 15 people were reported as being detected during 20143. 6. However, Home Office information shows that 150,000 migrants were encountered at Calais, Coquelles and Dunkirk attempting to pass clandestinely through the juxtaposed border controls between 2016 and 2019, with just over half of these (or 81,000) attempting to access the UK via Calais. This will include many people attempting to come here via lorry." So, if you voted Remain don't on any account find this document: https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pdfs/MW502-illegal-clandestine-arrivals-by-lorry.pdf | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat. So please explain the correct procedure The correct procedure for any genuine refugee is to claim asylum in the first "safe" country they get to after escaping. Clearly if you're getting on a boat in France (safe country) to come to the UK then you have abused the system. So why come to the UK? Free NHS, free benefits, housing etc etc, opportunity to find work (legal or otherwise) be with kin etc etc. It's not racist to challenge the actions of these people, the UK is under enough pressure to support its residents as it is. The Australian system is that anyone claiming refugee status is dealt with either off shore or in detention centres, if you are genuine then you get to stay and good luck to you. Let's be honest about this, most of the "refugees" are young men looking for a better life but wanting to by-pass the legal migration routes. Very few actual genuine refugees land here and those that do, are more than welcome" So that's never been the correct procedure and nor has it ever been since the start of international law..... | |||
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"Look up the number of small boat crossing between France and UK in the 4 years before we left The EU Ps I meant to add DON'T look if you voted for Brexit Source? Did you even look it up yourself? Let's assume it was The Guardian; it usually is. And just a little context is missing here: why did the boats start increasing ? Oh yes. Lorries started getting searched a bit more efficiently. Also: "The authorities have suggested that the boat route was only used sporadically until 2018 when arrivals increased. For example, only 15 people were reported as being detected during 20143. 6. However, Home Office information shows that 150,000 migrants were encountered at Calais, Coquelles and Dunkirk attempting to pass clandestinely through the juxtaposed border controls between 2016 and 2019, with just over half of these (or 81,000) attempting to access the UK via Calais. This will include many people attempting to come here via lorry." So, if you voted Remain don't on any account find this document: https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pdfs/MW502-illegal-clandestine-arrivals-by-lorry.pdf " 15 | |||
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" 15" Glad you read that far. Did you actually follow the link? If you didn't, please try and accustom yourself to the idea that the main route before 2018 wasn't by boat but by lorry. And that the majority of detected illegal immos weren't picked up at the border on entry, but after having dispersed in the country. Some of them. Counting them as they step ashore doesn't leave much room for guesswork, picking them up randomly does. Certainly Brexit hugely increased legal migration from non EU countries. Illegal migration? Look at the bit after "15". That was BEFORE Brexit. Being in the EU didn't make it harder for illegals to get to Calais, did it? It's not a simple picture. | |||
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"According to the Government's official web site recent arrival numbers are: May 22nd - 394 May 23rd - 287 May 24th - 231 May 25th - 77 So, 989 in total." Still 989 too many to go with the 1000's already here. Fucking Govt sponsored parasites | |||
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"According to the Government's official web site recent arrival numbers are: May 22nd - 394 May 23rd - 287 May 24th - 231 May 25th - 77 So, 989 in total. Still 989 too many to go with the 1000's already here. Fucking Govt sponsored parasites" Nasty and unsympathetic. | |||
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" 15 Glad you read that far. Did you actually follow the link? If you didn't, please try and accustom yourself to the idea that the main route before 2018 wasn't by boat but by lorry. And that the majority of detected illegal immos weren't picked up at the border on entry, but after having dispersed in the country. Some of them. Counting them as they step ashore doesn't leave much room for guesswork, picking them up randomly does. Certainly Brexit hugely increased legal migration from non EU countries. Illegal migration? Look at the bit after "15". That was BEFORE Brexit. Being in the EU didn't make it harder for illegals to get to Calais, did it? It's not a simple picture." Agree with you there , it's definitely not a simple picture , and The UK voting to leave The Dublin Agreement didn't help | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually!" No it’s not true ! At best it’s a guesstimate That’s how many the suspect may have entered The true figure is unknown for every immigrant they catch the claim is a minimum of 5 get through untraced | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! No it’s not true ! At best it’s a guesstimate That’s how many the suspect may have entered The true figure is unknown for every immigrant they catch the claim is a minimum of 5 get through untraced " Where does the 1 in 5 figure come from ? | |||
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"Are they all joining FAB? If not who really cares????" Probably, many claim they can’t be sent back because they are gay | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures" .. well that's what you guys did 4 centuries .. can go round putting up flags . Globally And then never expect anyone 2 visit .. .. yes or no .. do I have a point ... | |||
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"Arriving in the UK on a boat as an undocumented asylum seeker is not in any way illegal. If it was they would be arrested on the beaches. Brexit removed the ability to return immigrants under the Dublin III agreement so you can blame Nigel Fartage for that " I am glad you said that. Since brexit immigration control has literally collapsed and when we were part of the EU we were able to send illegals to their last point of entry. Unfortunately Reform (aka UkIp, Brexit Party) don’t want you to know that (as well as the ultra rich donors who have everyone’s interests at heart). | |||
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"Arriving in the UK on a boat as an undocumented asylum seeker is not in any way illegal. If it was they would be arrested on the beaches. Brexit removed the ability to return immigrants under the Dublin III agreement so you can blame Nigel Fartage for that I am glad you said that. Since brexit immigration control has literally collapsed and when we were part of the EU we were able to send illegals to their last point of entry. Unfortunately Reform (aka UkIp, Brexit Party) don’t want you to know that (as well as the ultra rich donors who have everyone’s interests at heart). " since blair we have done he- haw about the illegals or legals coming into Britain , it’s a joke to blame all our ills on Brexit , blair could of signed us up for transitioning policies on free movement but didn’t , other eu members did so the poorer new states to the eu knew where they could screw the welfare system of a leftist free for all government | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! No it’s not true ! At best it’s a guesstimate That’s how many the suspect may have entered The true figure is unknown for every immigrant they catch the claim is a minimum of 5 get through untraced Where does the 1 in 5 figure come from ? " Erm it doesn’t! The bit that says it is unknown sort of tells you it’s not factual  | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures *Government. Dave's regular rage bait post about brown people. Go on Dave, tell us all again for the millionth time how Christian you are whilst demonstrating your raging intolerance for anyone that isn't a white, middle class Tory or Faragist from the south of England." . Why the racist rant quoting colour, middle class ,farage and the rest of your childish rant. Nothing to do with Christianity. Concern about gross shortage of housing, massive unemployment. Green fields being carved up for more and more houses. A welfare system that is higher than our national tax income. A health system that is unable to cope with our massively growing population, with a goverment who has no plans. But clearly you care nothing for our homeless. Care little for our children, have no concerns for the growing corridor care patients suffering in hospitals. Caring, being concerned, for people's welfare is what Christianity is is about. Not wearing blinkers and don't give a damn outlook because your doing ok. Do no, nothing to do will Farage. Not racist. Called values. Clearly something your short of in your Athiest little world | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. " Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news " . keep your blinkers on. | |||
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"If I may… as a brown person… 1. Brexit added to this issue of illegal undocumented people arriving to the uk. If you voted for Brexit and didn’t understand the Dublin Agreement.. then that’s on you.. you contributed to this. 2. The UKs political parties are a complete sham… none can agree or deal with this effectively. Reform won’t either…. 3. People of colour, like myself don’t need to continually hear the mild racism that comes knocking whenever this topic comes up… millions of us have been here all our lives and work, pay taxes, are second or third generation here… Let’s keep it real… " . No one on here with a single brain cell is against anyone like yourself, or anyone of colour. Family like you are absolutely entitled to live here and are welcome. It's about our economy, the growing concern on the streets. Massive Protests etc and the current lack of answers from a shambolic goverment | |||
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"It is long overdue that the very notion of claiming asylum was ditched. Asylum has a place for those in genuine need, amd they can, and do, claima asylum in the country of origin, but the vast majority simply abuse it to the cost of the ultra-liberal west, Europe in particular. Claiming asylum has become far too easy and the British bureaucracy couldn't cope. Just send them back straight away. " What utter bollocks. Asylum is far from easy to obtain in the UK and there are no clear and safe routes for those who want to claim asylum, leaving illegal entry as the only real option. When you say 'just send them back straight away' I can only assume you mean those who have a genuine claim of escape from persecution as well as so-called economic migrants as both kinds enter on the small boats. And that just reeks of bigotry and racism. Great to see it here in a community that seems to have forgotten the historical bigotry of fascists and other ignorants towards the gays. Not. | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided." Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear | |||
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"The boats really became a problem(for some) once the wonderful gift of brexit was given to us. The return policy with the EU was torn up. Shambolic government?. Where was everybody for the 14 years of "austerity", lies, sleaze, corruption with the Tories, not only shambolic but criminal. Mind you, you can always vote for honest Nigel or one of his wonderful MPs." This. 100%. | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat. So please explain the correct procedure The correct procedure for any genuine refugee is to claim asylum in the first "safe" country they get to after escaping. Clearly if you're getting on a boat in France (safe country) to come to the UK then you have abused the system. So why come to the UK? Free NHS, free benefits, housing etc etc, opportunity to find work (legal or otherwise) be with kin etc etc. It's not racist to challenge the actions of these people, the UK is under enough pressure to support its residents as it is. The Australian system is that anyone claiming refugee status is dealt with either off shore or in detention centres, if you are genuine then you get to stay and good luck to you. Let's be honest about this, most of the "refugees" are young men looking for a better life but wanting to by-pass the legal migration routes. Very few actual genuine refugees land here and those that do, are more than welcome" After Brexit (taking back control) the UK left the Dublin Accord. While we were in the Dublin Accord we could send 100% of illegal migrants back to The Calais Camp. Once we left we could not. When Farage was challenged about this in 2016 he laughed and said it would not happen. Voting Brexit and leaving the Single Market and The EU has resulted in us abiding by The UNs refugee rules. It will anger Leave voters,but after January 2020 we could not send the boats back. Simple as that. Did you notice the Calais Camp has now gone ? Farage will not stop the boats either.Hows he going to do that ? Leave the UN ? Nato ? The EHRC ? The smugglers are too powerful and clever for him. You will never stop drugs coming into the country. You will struggle to stop people. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures *Government. Dave's regular rage bait post about brown people. Go on Dave, tell us all again for the millionth time how Christian you are whilst demonstrating your raging intolerance for anyone that isn't a white, middle class Tory or Faragist from the south of England.. Why the racist rant quoting colour, middle class ,farage and the rest of your childish rant. Nothing to do with Christianity. Concern about gross shortage of housing, massive unemployment. Green fields being carved up for more and more houses. A welfare system that is higher than our national tax income. A health system that is unable to cope with our massively growing population, with a goverment who has no plans. But clearly you care nothing for our homeless. Care little for our children, have no concerns for the growing corridor care patients suffering in hospitals. Caring, being concerned, for people's welfare is what Christianity is is about. Not wearing blinkers and don't give a damn outlook because your doing ok. Do no, nothing to do will Farage. Not racist. Called values. Clearly something your short of in your Athiest little world" For someone who claims not to know what Gaslighting is, you certainly have a working knowledge of how to apply it and repeatedly do. Why must you always turn this forum into a house of lies, Dave? Why? You have shown repeatedly how you don't give a shit about people worse off than you and I've lost count of the number of times you've bragged about your lifestyle (second home, big car, absolutely HUMONGOUS garden bigger than many garden centres), indeed, all you ever do is punch down (somewhat ironically). So please, spare us your crocodile tears. Plenty here see exactly what you are.  | |||
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"It is long overdue that the very notion of claiming asylum was ditched. Asylum has a place for those in genuine need, amd they can, and do, claima asylum in the country of origin, but the vast majority simply abuse it to the cost of the ultra-liberal west, Europe in particular. Claiming asylum has become far too easy and the British bureaucracy couldn't cope. Just send them back straight away. What utter bollocks. Asylum is far from easy to obtain in the UK and there are no clear and safe routes for those who want to claim asylum, leaving illegal entry as the only real option. When you say 'just send them back straight away' I can only assume you mean those who have a genuine claim of escape from persecution as well as so-called economic migrants as both kinds enter on the small boats. And that just reeks of bigotry and racism. Great to see it here in a community that seems to have forgotten the historical bigotry of fascists and other ignorants towards the gays. Not." You dont get to call anyone racist for having a view that isnt so left and liberal as yours. We all know the vast majority of people arriving on boats are not genuine asylum seekers, and are instead economic migrants, and its really easy to distinguish and discuss these in separation from the genuine asylum seekers. These cretins know that once they get here the govt is absolutely useless at removing them from GB. And yes, claiming asylum in the country of origin or the 1st safe country, is easy, and genuine asylum seekers dont need to be in GB to claim asylum here. We are an island, we are a soft touch and our governments have bowed to liberal melts. Now the situation is a numbers game, a game the government, and most European govts have no game plan for winning, and a game the British people are fed up with because they see the consequences on the streets. GB has become a dumping ground for the world's chancers and takers. Defending British values and way of life is not racist. Ignoring the needs of the British is. | |||
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"It is long overdue that the very notion of claiming asylum was ditched. Asylum has a place for those in genuine need, amd they can, and do, claima asylum in the country of origin, but the vast majority simply abuse it to the cost of the ultra-liberal west, Europe in particular. Claiming asylum has become far too easy and the British bureaucracy couldn't cope. Just send them back straight away. What utter bollocks. Asylum is far from easy to obtain in the UK and there are no clear and safe routes for those who want to claim asylum, leaving illegal entry as the only real option. When you say 'just send them back straight away' I can only assume you mean those who have a genuine claim of escape from persecution as well as so-called economic migrants as both kinds enter on the small boats. And that just reeks of bigotry and racism. Great to see it here in a community that seems to have forgotten the historical bigotry of fascists and other ignorants towards the gays. Not. You dont get to call anyone racist for having a view that isnt so left and liberal as yours. We all know the vast majority of people arriving on boats are not genuine asylum seekers, and are instead economic migrants, and its really easy to distinguish and discuss these in separation from the genuine asylum seekers. These cretins know that once they get here the govt is absolutely useless at removing them from GB. And yes, claiming asylum in the country of origin or the 1st safe country, is easy, and genuine asylum seekers dont need to be in GB to claim asylum here. We are an island, we are a soft touch and our governments have bowed to liberal melts. Now the situation is a numbers game, a game the government, and most European govts have no game plan for winning, and a game the British people are fed up with because they see the consequences on the streets. GB has become a dumping ground for the world's chancers and takers. Defending British values and way of life is not racist. Ignoring the needs of the British is." You DO have to be on British soil to claim asylum in The UK | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures *Government. Dave's regular rage bait post about brown people. Go on Dave, tell us all again for the millionth time how Christian you are whilst demonstrating your raging intolerance for anyone that isn't a white, middle class Tory or Faragist from the south of England.. Why the racist rant quoting colour, middle class ,farage and the rest of your childish rant. Nothing to do with Christianity. Concern about gross shortage of housing, massive unemployment. Green fields being carved up for more and more houses. A welfare system that is higher than our national tax income. A health system that is unable to cope with our massively growing population, with a goverment who has no plans. But clearly you care nothing for our homeless. Care little for our children, have no concerns for the growing corridor care patients suffering in hospitals. Caring, being concerned, for people's welfare is what Christianity is is about. Not wearing blinkers and don't give a damn outlook because your doing ok. Do no, nothing to do will Farage. Not racist. Called values. Clearly something your short of in your Athiest little world For someone who claims not to know what Gaslighting is, you certainly have a working knowledge of how to apply it and repeatedly do. Why must you always turn this forum into a house of lies, Dave? Why? You have shown repeatedly how you don't give a shit about people worse off than you and I've lost count of the number of times you've bragged about your lifestyle (second home, big car, absolutely HUMONGOUS garden bigger than many garden centres), indeed, all you ever do is punch down (somewhat ironically). So please, spare us your crocodile tears. Plenty here see exactly what you are. . you do not speak for the plenty. You have your own childlike vicious views that's are completely yours.
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This has nothing to do with the thread. So keep your childish attacks to yourself and stick to the reality "I said plenty here because I've seen plenty of other people pull you up on your rampant, endless bigotry, it's far from just me and let us not forget that you started all this, not me (and I know you'll claim that's untrue but you have about as many qualms about telling untruths as your hero Spaffer as you have demonstrated repeatedly) If you want to talk childlike how about someone in his late sixties who uses 'lol' such as that time you said "I'm sorry about your disability LOL"? Your words, verbatim. And how many times have I had to correct your snidey nlittleinferences that I don't work? I've long since lost count of the number of times I've corrected you on that but once again it demonstrates that you look down (again ironically) on those out of work as lesser people. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with my work ethic. I've been up since 4:25 this morning and at work since 6 so shove your smug condescension up your arse. I'm going to quote you again here word for word - " The working class are always trying to screw US over" Who is this "us" that you think you belong to? Unlike you I'm just not prepared to trample over other people in order to further my own interests. It may limit how far I can go but my conscience is clear and to quote a song that I like "I don't want to have it all, I just want to have enough". And I do. I'm content with that. What you demonstrate looks awfully like greed and avarice. Have a nice day, my break time is over now and I have to get back to work. | |||
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"Since the 22nd to be precise, yet the clowns in power say immigration is DOWN 82%, BOLLOCKS" Their are lies, damn lies and statistics! Just go to any town centre, school, hospital... you don't need a fictional government data sheet to calculate immigrant numbers... just use your eyes and ears!  | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. " Bet you're fun...not | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat." Absolutely, the boat people are a red herring with regard to undesirable immigration. Most enter the UK via dubious legal routes, i.e. fake jobs and college courses, claiming false relative status and a mirriade of other reasons just to get here and then disappear into the third world style black economy. The UK is fecked!  | |||
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"The people defending illegal immigration are disgraceful and are actively contributing to the downfall of their countries. The fact that this is even a debate is a joke." Well said m8  | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear" Well let me give you a hint the majority of Europe are whites especially the west of Europe so when you see people of a different skin colour that is a good indicator that they are most likely not from your country, that is fact and common sense 🤔 | |||
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"Is this a news update piece of information? Or are you trying to stir sum more things up? Because anyone in the LGBTQI community should be aware of bigotry and racism and othering not to wish it on anyone let alone those that cannot answer. It's got nothing to do with racism!! Why deal that card everytime someone mentions people from other countries? If they want to come here fine with me, but follow the correct procedure and not just pay for a place on a small boat." Accusations of racism is the first port of call for those who cannot tolerate any alternative view .Look at our prime minister. Anyone he doesn’t like is a far right racist. Ignorant childish name calling straight out of the school playground. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news . keep your blinkers on. " Take your bigotry elsewhere like the daily mail or better still protest outside 10 Downing Street and see how far you get . | |||
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"Arriving in the UK on a boat as an undocumented asylum seeker is not in any way illegal. If it was they would be arrested on the beaches. Brexit removed the ability to return immigrants under the Dublin III agreement so you can blame Nigel Fartage for that " If a foreign national, surroptisishly turns up on a country's beach with no documentation and won't state their nationality or country origin... then if that's not illegal, then it damb well should be! What ever UK politicians made that legal... then they should be arrested and charged with treason! Common sense appears to be missing here! | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news . keep your blinkers on. Take your bigotry elsewhere like the daily mail or better still protest outside 10 Downing Street and see how far you get ." . Your a sad troll on here. Have been for three years. Had you serve bans in the past. Now I just mock you | |||
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"No one as an answer as how to stop them Everybody would agree it can't go on for ever. I haven't heard one word from anyone as to where we are supposed to put them Does anyone think they should have priority over people on council waiting list. " This is an excellent question. The only solution to this issue is to enhance the safety and wealth of countries that are currently in dire situations. Western nations plus nasty China and Russia by supporting terrorist regimes such as Iran, the Taliban, and other dictatorial governments merely for access to inexpensive oil and gas, inadvertently drive more individuals to flee these nations. The inhabitants of these nations do not reap the advantages of their own natural resources, prompting them to flee from these corrupt governments in search of a better life and to avoid potential harm. Otherwise, why would individuals choose to leave their homeland if they enjoyed a satisfactory standard of living? This situation is a direct result of unfavourable agreements with corrupt administrations. | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. " As I previously stated, forget all the fake data lists about immigration... just use your eyes and ears! If you can't see what's happening in the UK, you must be walking round with blinkers on! | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news . keep your blinkers on. Take your bigotry elsewhere like the daily mail or better still protest outside 10 Downing Street and see how far you get .. Your a sad troll on here. Have been for three years. Had you serve bans in the past. Now I just mock you" I am sorry if I have offended you but some of you comment on here are a bit over the top perhaps take up the bitterness towards the present government else were like your local MP . | |||
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"My local council is asking landlords to rent their properties at £1000 a month above going rate to house economic migrants. I have heard other councils doing same." Economic immigrants? The government does not give free houses to economic immigrants, and they are generally ineligible for social housing or standard welfare benefits. But if they are legal Then the landlords have a choice, no one is forcing them to accept it. You never know who might end up damaging your home. Many people pay less, but when they move out, you could end up spending 2000 pounds to fix all the damage. Immigrants are human too; they’re generally good people, just like anyone else. Just because they’re immigrants doesn’t mean they’re bad. Do you realize how many immigrants contribute taxes to the UK economy and help it grow? Do you really think the country could run smoothly without their support? Absolutely not. | |||
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"My local council is asking landlords to rent their properties at £1000 a month above going rate to house economic migrants. I have heard other councils doing same. Economic immigrants? The government does not give free houses to economic immigrants, and they are generally ineligible for social housing or standard welfare benefits. But if they are legal Then the landlords have a choice, no one is forcing them to accept it. You never know who might end up damaging your home. Many people pay less, but when they move out, you could end up spending 2000 pounds to fix all the damage. Immigrants are human too; they’re generally good people, just like anyone else. Just because they’re immigrants doesn’t mean they’re bad. Do you realize how many immigrants contribute taxes to the UK economy and help it grow? Do you really think the country could run smoothly without their support? Absolutely not." | |||
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"There is good and bad immigration. Certain sectors rely very heavily on good immigration. The NHS for instance. A few years ago the Faragista Party Mk 1 aka UKIP, was making a big fuss about immigration from Eastern Europe which, at the time, was keeping the hospitality trade, care homes and some sectors of farming going. Admittedly they weren't turning up out of the blue on small boats. The boats are a problem whether genuine asylum seekers or economic migrants. They are expecting to be fed and housed before they can be processed and absorbed into the system whereby they can house themselves, take legitimate jobs and pay taxes etc. So I can understand peoples resentment and why the Faragista Party Mk 3 aka Reform, are making such a big issue about it." I disagree with your statement because you can't just lump everyone together and decide who's good and who's not. I remember watching a BBC documentary about a guy from a Western European country who was cloning credit cards. When the authorities searched his house, it turned out he was part of a gang that had been living in the UK for a long time. The idea that a genuine asylum seeker is just looking for food and money is completely ridiculous; no one can honestly make that claim. | |||
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"I can assure you sir They are doing it without any checks I should know I work for the council Its going on. " 68 and still working ? Somehow I think not. Cool story bro. | |||
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"I'm really looking forward to when Nigel becomes PM or Supreme Leader changing the UK to a place nobody wants to come to just like Trumps America. Then I'm sure we'll all be told who we can hate next hopefully bi and gay people won't be on their list. " Probably Welsh. He thinks our language is foreign. | |||
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"There is good and bad immigration. Certain sectors rely very heavily on good immigration. The NHS for instance. A few years ago the Faragista Party Mk 1 aka UKIP, was making a big fuss about immigration from Eastern Europe which, at the time, was keeping the hospitality trade, care homes and some sectors of farming going. Admittedly they weren't turning up out of the blue on small boats. The boats are a problem whether genuine asylum seekers or economic migrants. They are expecting to be fed and housed before they can be processed and absorbed into the system whereby they can house themselves, take legitimate jobs and pay taxes etc. So I can understand peoples resentment and why the Faragista Party Mk 3 aka Reform, are making such a big issue about it. I disagree with your statement because you can't just lump everyone together and decide who's good and who's not. I remember watching a BBC documentary about a guy from a Western European country who was cloning credit cards. When the authorities searched his house, it turned out he was part of a gang that had been living in the UK for a long time. The idea that a genuine asylum seeker is just looking for food and money is completely ridiculous; no one can honestly make that claim." Perhaps I expressed myself badly. I was mainly implying that the economic migrants were expecting to be fed and housed and, sadly, they are the ones who will not contribute to society if allowed to stay as probably have few skills or works ethics. Genuine asylum seekers are a different mater but then you have to ask why have they travelled through several safe countries and risked a channel crossing to get here? | |||
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"There is good and bad immigration. Certain sectors rely very heavily on good immigration. The NHS for instance. A few years ago the Faragista Party Mk 1 aka UKIP, was making a big fuss about immigration from Eastern Europe which, at the time, was keeping the hospitality trade, care homes and some sectors of farming going. Admittedly they weren't turning up out of the blue on small boats. The boats are a problem whether genuine asylum seekers or economic migrants. They are expecting to be fed and housed before they can be processed and absorbed into the system whereby they can house themselves, take legitimate jobs and pay taxes etc. So I can understand peoples resentment and why the Faragista Party Mk 3 aka Reform, are making such a big issue about it. I disagree with your statement because you can't just lump everyone together and decide who's good and who's not. I remember watching a BBC documentary about a guy from a Western European country who was cloning credit cards. When the authorities searched his house, it turned out he was part of a gang that had been living in the UK for a long time. The idea that a genuine asylum seeker is just looking for food and money is completely ridiculous; no one can honestly make that claim. Perhaps I expressed myself badly. I was mainly implying that the economic migrants were expecting to be fed and housed and, sadly, they are the ones who will not contribute to society if allowed to stay as probably have few skills or works ethics. Genuine asylum seekers are a different mater but then you have to ask why have they travelled through several safe countries and risked a channel crossing to get here?" That's fair enough, i cant really answer that. The only thing that comes to mind is the language but the risk is still so high for channel crossing. | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. " . Why do we have to do extreme on a problem which is actually very serious? We already have a million young people in the UK today not in work. So those who say it's wrong to control immigration, calling racist, cruel, uncaring, not Christian( like one idiot on here) can answer me this, Is it acceptable that we add to the problem of one million of our young people unemployed ? Happy there on the scrap heap?. | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. . Why do we have to do extreme on a problem which is actually very serious? We already have a million young people in the UK today not in work. So those who say it's wrong to control immigration, calling racist, cruel, uncaring, not Christian( like one idiot on here) can answer me this, Is it acceptable that we add to the problem of one million of our young people unemployed ? Happy there on the scrap heap?. " I don't think your Vicar ,pastor, minster etc Will be happy with your bigotry on Sunday. | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. . Why do we have to do extreme on a problem which is actually very serious? We already have a million young people in the UK today not in work. So those who say it's wrong to control immigration, calling racist, cruel, uncaring, not Christian( like one idiot on here) can answer me this, Is it acceptable that we add to the problem of one million of our young people unemployed ? Happy there on the scrap heap?. I don't think your Vicar ,pastor, minster etc Will be happy with your bigotry on Sunday." . It's none of your business, and not for public scrutiny | |||
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"According to the Government's official web site recent arrival numbers are: May 22nd - 394 May 23rd - 287 May 24th - 231 May 25th - 77 So, 989 in total." And all needing to be housed in a county that does not have a ghost of a chance of building enough housing for the people already here. Cannot end well. | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear Well let me give you a hint the majority of Europe are whites especially the west of Europe so when you see people of a different skin colour that is a good indicator that they are most likely not from your country, that is fact and common sense 🤔 " Non-whites and notably people of African descent have been living on these islands since Roman times. Your family might well be descended from Normans or Danes which would make you the more recent immigrant, historically. I doubt there is anyone on this entire site who can guarantee that they are descended from 'pure' Anglo ancestors. So you are basically talking out of your unReformed arse. Skin colour tells us nothing on its own about whether someone is a 20th/21st century immigrant or if their history as a Briton is actually longer than many white Britons. What it's highlighting does tell us, however, is the xenophobic nature of those who remark on it. And xenophobia is basically just a more refined way of saying racism. Anyway, can't be arsed to waste any more time on this ridiculous 'discussion' on a fucking sex hook up site. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! No it’s not true ! At best it’s a guesstimate That’s how many the suspect may have entered The true figure is unknown for every immigrant they catch the claim is a minimum of 5 get through untraced Where does the 1 in 5 figure come from ? Erm it doesn’t! The bit that says it is unknown sort of tells you it’s not factual "So you just made it up then ? | |||
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"Why is it that if anybody even mentions it they are slagged off as racist or rightwing. I’m neither I just don’t want my children growing up in a Muslim country because our government are too fucking weak to stop it. On occasion people answer their own question " Not in this case though. As I CLEARLY said in no racist or rightwing lunatic. STOP trying to be a smart arse and write something constructive. | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. " Absolutely NO free anything. That includes that job dodging natives. It needs taking back to the bare basics. There must be NOTHING on offer that warrants people travelling two continents and 7-8 countries to get here. | |||
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"I'm sure a forum on a gay sex hook up site is the perfect place to resolve this complex issue. Or are you just another Reform bore who hates anyone who is a slightly different colour? I thought i could co.e in here to get away from this backwards shite, but apparently not. " You do realise you can just scroll past it?? Is that within your realms of thinking? | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. Absolutely NO free anything. That includes that job dodging natives. It needs taking back to the bare basics. There must be NOTHING on offer that warrants people travelling two continents and 7-8 countries to get here." 👏 👏 👏 👏 | |||
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"Why is it that if anybody even mentions it they are slagged off as racist or rightwing. I’m neither I just don’t want my children growing up in a Muslim country because our government are too fucking weak to stop it. On occasion people answer their own question Not in this case though. As I CLEARLY said in no racist or rightwing lunatic. STOP trying to be a smart arse and write something constructive." I read what you CLEARLY said As for constructive , coming out of The Dublin Agreement was a bit silly wasn't it ,( I was against doing so ) , seeking constructive ideas from those who voted for it and an indication of how it has helped the situation | |||
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"So the way to stop the boats is to make the UK inhospitable. No free healthcare, no housing support, no social support. Make it so you work until you drop dead After all it’s completely stopped illegal immigration in the USA. Absolutely NO free anything. That includes that job dodging natives. It needs taking back to the bare basics. There must be NOTHING on offer that warrants people travelling two continents and 7-8 countries to get here." Yes vote Reform make Britain shit again. | |||
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"Fake christians like trump are everywhere.. Wheres nigel..he is another 1.. And u by the sound of it." Being Christian doesn't mean allowing your country to be torn apart by 3rd world savages many of which are Muslims. Ask yourself would jesus let his people get invaded and killed? There is charity then there is suicidal empathy, apparently you chose the one that is destroying the west so you are in no place to call anyone false | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear Well let me give you a hint the majority of Europe are whites especially the west of Europe so when you see people of a different skin colour that is a good indicator that they are most likely not from your country, that is fact and common sense 🤔 Non-whites and notably people of African descent have been living on these islands since Roman times. Your family might well be descended from Normans or Danes which would make you the more recent immigrant, historically. I doubt there is anyone on this entire site who can guarantee that they are descended from 'pure' Anglo ancestors. So you are basically talking out of your unReformed arse. Skin colour tells us nothing on its own about whether someone is a 20th/21st century immigrant or if their history as a Briton is actually longer than many white Britons. What it's highlighting does tell us, however, is the xenophobic nature of those who remark on it. And xenophobia is basically just a more refined way of saying racism. Anyway, can't be arsed to waste any more time on this ridiculous 'discussion' on a fucking sex hook up site." Buzz word Buzz word something something racism, Here is another lack of common sense person i was talking about. He is equating a hand full of blacks to entire populations of whites and you said it yourself they are Africans (you know what that means) fine whatever there have been a hand full of blacks in the country for 1000s of years so what,what has that to do with modern times where 3rd world savages who don't even speak our language are invading our countries taking it's resources and committing crimes some of which i am not allowed to mention on this site? And if you are trying to convince anyone that Europe countries are not white countries you are delusional | |||
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"Mostly they onward travel to the US - it’s easier to do this from the UK and gives a chance to improve on the language. Either way on boats - 3% of immigration is not usually subjected to such importance, but the politics of division know that the ‘number of boats’ is going to be harder to control, especially as they were launched from another jurisdiction which we have little skin in the game with anymore. It takes away the sheer explosion in the numbers of immigration since Brexit was introduced." So you reckon an illegal immigrant to the UK then has a better chance of making it to the USA? How does that work? And yes, its absolutely right that we focus on that 3% as the other 97% of immigration tends to be self-supporting and/or joining families legitimately. That 3% costs the tax payer a lot of our money. | |||
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"Why is it that if anybody even mentions it they are slagged off as racist or rightwing. I’m neither I just don’t want my children growing up in a Muslim country because our government are too fucking weak to stop it." If it quacks like a duck... | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear Well let me give you a hint the majority of Europe are whites especially the west of Europe so when you see people of a different skin colour that is a good indicator that they are most likely not from your country, that is fact and common sense 🤔 Non-whites and notably people of African descent have been living on these islands since Roman times. Your family might well be descended from Normans or Danes which would make you the more recent immigrant, historically. I doubt there is anyone on this entire site who can guarantee that they are descended from 'pure' Anglo ancestors. So you are basically talking out of your unReformed arse. Skin colour tells us nothing on its own about whether someone is a 20th/21st century immigrant or if their history as a Briton is actually longer than many white Britons. What it's highlighting does tell us, however, is the xenophobic nature of those who remark on it. And xenophobia is basically just a more refined way of saying racism. Anyway, can't be arsed to waste any more time on this ridiculous 'discussion' on a fucking sex hook up site. Buzz word Buzz word something something racism, Here is another lack of common sense person i was talking about. He is equating a hand full of blacks to entire populations of whites and you said it yourself they are Africans (you know what that means) fine whatever there have been a hand full of blacks in the country for 1000s of years so what,what has that to do with modern times where 3rd world savages who don't even speak our language are invading our countries taking it's resources and committing crimes some of which i am not allowed to mention on this site? And if you are trying to convince anyone that Europe countries are not white countries you are delusional " What you're saying is exactly how the Irish were thought of a 150 years ago learn your history shame on you. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. " Nope, all being sent to Glasgow, the Capital of immigrant UK. The Government plans to breed out, and get rid of Glaswegians by over- populating Glasgow with immigrants. It's working too, if you walk down Buchanan street at the weekend try spotting a white. | |||
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"Quite agree, was at a big theme park yesterday and it was hard to tell I was in Britain, immigration is a bigger problem then we are told. Why was it hard to tell? Were all the signs in a foreign language? Or do you just mean there were a few people there not the same colour as you? Always useful to know who the racists are on here so they can be avoided. Yes I was thinking that! How did the poster know the nationalities of the people there. Was he asking them? Or ... did he base his observation on the colour of their skin? Oh dear Well let me give you a hint the majority of Europe are whites especially the west of Europe so when you see people of a different skin colour that is a good indicator that they are most likely not from your country, that is fact and common sense 🤔 Non-whites and notably people of African descent have been living on these islands since Roman times. Your family might well be descended from Normans or Danes which would make you the more recent immigrant, historically. I doubt there is anyone on this entire site who can guarantee that they are descended from 'pure' Anglo ancestors. So you are basically talking out of your unReformed arse. Skin colour tells us nothing on its own about whether someone is a 20th/21st century immigrant or if their history as a Briton is actually longer than many white Britons. What it's highlighting does tell us, however, is the xenophobic nature of those who remark on it. And xenophobia is basically just a more refined way of saying racism. Anyway, can't be arsed to waste any more time on this ridiculous 'discussion' on a fucking sex hook up site. Buzz word Buzz word something something racism, Here is another lack of common sense person i was talking about. He is equating a hand full of blacks to entire populations of whites and you said it yourself they are Africans (you know what that means) fine whatever there have been a hand full of blacks in the country for 1000s of years so what,what has that to do with modern times where 3rd world savages who don't even speak our language are invading our countries taking it's resources and committing crimes some of which i am not allowed to mention on this site? And if you are trying to convince anyone that Europe countries are not white countries you are delusional What you're saying is exactly how the Irish were thought of a 150 years ago learn your history shame on you. " Nice attempt to grandstand, even of the Irish were treated bad we integrated into the countries we entered, we helped with it's successes whereas these people come from countries where their cultures are stuck in the middle ages. And guess what these illegals aren't going to integrate, they aren't going to work. If they were they wouldn't make their own districts trying to inact their own laws but then again if you know your history you would know that. But go ahead support your child marrying illegal 3rd worlders invading your country also you might want to look at where these people came from and what they would do to you if you were in their country before you blindly defend them | |||
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"Why does it bother you so much? How does it directly affect your life? This country was built by immigrants over the last 2,000 years. " Did you seriously unironcally just ask that? Are you mentally all there at all? | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. Nope, all being sent to Glasgow, the Capital of immigrant UK. The Government plans to breed out, and get rid of Glaswegians by over- populating Glasgow with immigrants. It's working too, if you walk down Buchanan street at the weekend try spotting a white." But the crime rate has fallen in Glasgow | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. Nope, all being sent to Glasgow, the Capital of immigrant UK. The Government plans to breed out, and get rid of Glaswegians by over- populating Glasgow with immigrants. It's working too, if you walk down Buchanan street at the weekend try spotting a white. But the crime rate has fallen in Glasgow " The law refusing to prosecute illegals and foriegn gangsters and releasing those who did commit crimes do not equate to Falling crime rate, Thats like if you made all illegal drugs legal and then bragging that drug related crimes have plummeted to 0 | |||
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"If you engage in self-reflection and examine the issue from a broader perspective, it becomes evident that the root of the problem lies with the majority of UK residents rather than the rubber boats. Shouldn't we implement a law that compels young individuals to seek employment, regardless of whether their qualifications align with the job requirements? We should reduce the financial support they receive without justification and observe how this motivates them to return to work. Furthermore, we should not provide additional financial assistance to those who show little concern for low-income salaries; this should be completely eliminated. Retirement funds do not materialise from thin air, so it is essential to acknowledge that the nation requires immigrants to enhance and advance the system. We must not impose an absurd points system for them that is unattainable for most individuals seeking qualification. For instance, a minimum annual salary of £40,000 for qualification? Are you serious? Who in England meets that requirement ? Moreover, they are responsible for their own healthcare costs; I certainly would not consider coming under such conditions. If you collectively put in the effort and work diligently, you would not witness any boats arriving on this island. Complaining does not yield solutions; do not lament about rubber boats while you are at home watching television, smoking cigarettes, and surrounded by eight children, with no one willing to work and complaining about council delays in payments. Eliminate this behaviour, and in three to four years, you will not see any boats." Why not do both? Why cant we worry about the people in our country that dont want to work and also combat illegal migration? | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. Nope, all being sent to Glasgow, the Capital of immigrant UK. The Government plans to breed out, and get rid of Glaswegians by over- populating Glasgow with immigrants. It's working too, if you walk down Buchanan street at the weekend try spotting a white. But the crime rate has fallen in Glasgow " It is factually true though. If you look at numbers of young children attending early education where English is not their main language, Glasgow has higher percentages. 35% , sometimes more depending on the exact area. This is why it's important to fund early learning properly. 20 years ago the bill was 1.5 bn . Now it's well over £10bn. But it's needed if we are going to do mass migration properly. | |||
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"1000 illegal boat immigrants entered the UK over past few days. According to Goverment figures Fake news True actually! I believe they're all heading to Carlisle. Nope, all being sent to Glasgow, the Capital of immigrant UK. The Government plans to breed out, and get rid of Glaswegians by over- populating Glasgow with immigrants. It's working too, if you walk down Buchanan street at the weekend try spotting a white. But the crime rate has fallen in Glasgow The law refusing to prosecute illegals and foriegn gangsters and releasing those who did commit crimes do not equate to Falling crime rate, Thats like if you made all illegal drugs legal and then bragging that drug related crimes have plummeted to 0" Walk down the city centre of Glasgow and the stench of cannabis is all around, plus you have to avoid getting run over from blacks cycling on the pavements | |||
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"If you engage in self-reflection and examine the issue from a broader perspective, it becomes evident that the root of the problem lies with the majority of UK residents rather than the rubber boats. Shouldn't we implement a law that compels young individuals to seek employment, regardless of whether their qualifications align with the job requirements? We should reduce the financial support they receive without justification and observe how this motivates them to return to work. Furthermore, we should not provide additional financial assistance to those who show little concern for low-income salaries; this should be completely eliminated. Retirement funds do not materialise from thin air, so it is essential to acknowledge that the nation requires immigrants to enhance and advance the system. We must not impose an absurd points system for them that is unattainable for most individuals seeking qualification. For instance, a minimum annual salary of £40,000 for qualification? Are you serious? Who in England meets that requirement ? Moreover, they are responsible for their own healthcare costs; I certainly would not consider coming under such conditions. If you collectively put in the effort and work diligently, you would not witness any boats arriving on this island. Complaining does not yield solutions; do not lament about rubber boats while you are at home watching television, smoking cigarettes, and surrounded by eight children, with no one willing to work and complaining about council delays in payments. Eliminate this behaviour, and in three to four years, you will not see any boats. Why not do both? Why cant we worry about the people in our country that dont want to work and also combat illegal migration?" If you successfully handle the initial issue, you will not encounter the problem of boats; they will have no opportunity to secure low-income employment, thereby failing to integrate into the system and remain with their families. Consequently, the government will not be required to provide assistance to any economic migrants. Thus, in this regard, they receive nothing and subsequently return by boat once more. | |||
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"Why does it bother you so much? How does it directly affect your life? This country was built by immigrants over the last 2,000 years. " Legal immigrants and that’s not the problem. Illegal are the problem | |||
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"The UK should copy Australia . Australia "stopped the boats" primarily through Operation Sovereign Borders (OSB), a military-led border security operation launched in 2013, which included intercepting boats and turning them back to Indonesia. The policy, aimed at preventing asylum seekers from reaching Australia, involved a combination of harsh deterrence measures: turning boats back, transferring passengers to offshore detention centers in Nauru and Papua New Guinea, and declaring that no boat arrivals would be resettled in Australia" . Yes we had Rwanda. Ready to go and paid for. But labour constantly blocked it in courts until the election. Now it's open borders for anyone. Most get allowed to stay. Makes figures look good | |||
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"Why does it bother you so much? How does it directly affect your life? This country was built by immigrants over the last 2,000 years. Legal immigrants and that’s not the problem. Illegal are the problem " I dispute the previous post that the country was 'built by immigrants over the last 2000 years'. It was built by hardworking British people and funded by our glorious naval traditions, our explorers, and those who gave us our magnificent empire. Fuck the apologists. | |||
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"It is a fact how bad the Irish were treated here in Britain. Both my Grandfathers and my Father have told me things that the public as well as the authorities did. You would not have the Railways or your canals if it wasnt for "Paddy". Guy i know goes on the anti immigrant marches, his parents and family are from Cork, figure that out, because i cant." Get over it, Ireland is and always has been part of the British Isles. None of them were press-ganged into being navvies, and they were paid well for the work. | |||
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"Why does it bother you so much? How does it directly affect your life? This country was built by immigrants over the last 2,000 years. " Always one of the worse arguments. Did the ancient Brits welcome the Celts? Did the Celts welcome the Saxons? I'm sure the Saxons encouraged the Normans and gave them free housing etc. Especially in the north of England about a year or so after that rather jolly archery competition on a hill near Hastings. | |||
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