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"I bet Starmer has the best cock.😂" 100% micro penis on him like | |||
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"Starmer is now damaged goods. He will struggle to recover any authority he may have had. Burnham looks like the new 'saviour' but is he? A good mayor of Manchester but wasn't that clever as a government minister before. Trouble is these days there is an ongoing 'witch hunt' by the media etc that wants every PM t fail. We've seen this with Mrs May, Johnson, Ms Truss, Sunak and now Starmer. Burnham might well get ushered into No 10 sometime this year on a euphoric crest of a wave but the knives will instantly be out baying for his downfall. He will need to do something pretty spectacular to maintain his popularity. That might mean completely getting rid of the old guard, introducing some new and workable policies and hope against hope that worldwide events don't intervene." Labour have over 400 MPs in the House of Commons. How can it be that there is not a natural leader amongst them? Have the electorate chosen so badly? Why does the party need a white knight riding in from the North to save the country? Beggars belief IMHO. | |||
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"Put it this way. Andy Burnham can't do a worse job then kier starmer" Sadly he can, just think liz Truss!! My preference is neither. Time for Jess Phillips to become PM, not my cup of tea politically but she has bigger balls than anyone in Government at the moment. | |||
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"Put it this way. Andy Burnham can't do a worse job then kier starmer" What has he done wrong? Clearing up the mess that the Tories left behind is a mammoth task, it will take years | |||
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"Starmer is now damaged goods. He will struggle to recover any authority he may have had. Burnham looks like the new 'saviour' but is he? A good mayor of Manchester but wasn't that clever as a government minister before. Trouble is these days there is an ongoing 'witch hunt' by the media etc that wants every PM t fail. We've seen this with Mrs May, Johnson, Ms Truss, Sunak and now Starmer. Burnham might well get ushered into No 10 sometime this year on a euphoric crest of a wave but the knives will instantly be out baying for his downfall. He will need to do something pretty spectacular to maintain his popularity. That might mean completely getting rid of the old guard, introducing some new and workable policies and hope against hope that worldwide events don't intervene. Labour have over 400 MPs in the House of Commons. How can it be that there is not a natural leader amongst them? Have the electorate chosen so badly? Why does the party need a white knight riding in from the North to save the country? Beggars belief IMHO. " Interesting to hear a starmer labour mp supporter trying to tie Burnham hands by saying if he where to move away from the election manifesto then he would have to call a general election , Starmer must of missed that principle | |||
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"Both hard core communist " Hahaha, I'd say that you could need to study what communism is. | |||
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"Put it this way. Andy Burnham can't do a worse job then kier starmer What has he done wrong? Clearing up the mess that the Tories left behind is a mammoth task, it will take years " We are still paying thousands in PFI some for property no longer usable , a brilliant labour program to fool the public into thinking they where investing in communities. Over price and poor quality cheers labour | |||
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" Will it make any difference to the man in the street? Sadly COVID, wars and the Cons have bankrupted this country. To few paying in, far too many taking money out having paid zero in!!! " We are on a massively dark road with comrade starmerama and his cronies. If Burnham now manages the slither into no 10, as seems likely, the future just got even darker than it has been. Very VERY dark days ahead | |||
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" Labour have over 400 MPs in the House of Commons. How can it be that there is not a natural leader amongst them? Have the electorate chosen so badly? Why does the party need a white knight riding in from the North to save the country? Beggars belief IMHO. " You would have thought so. Most of the 2024 intake are unknown outside their own constituencies and have made little impact on the public as a whole. The best most can get is a 20 second slot on a regional news programme. The current hierarchy, the cabinet and other ministers, are a pretty uninspiring lot who haven't exactly made names for themselves over the last two years. Hilary Benn and the recently appointed Dan Jarvis are probably the best members of the current cabinet but they won't get a look in if a leadership race comes about. Andy Burnham may look like the 'great white knight riding in from the north' but he did not excel as a government minister. Probably why he failed in previous leadership bids. At the moment he is riding high on his success, such as it is, as Manchester's mayor and a bit of rather earthy 'man of the people' charisma which Starmer, and other leadership possibilities have not got. | |||
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"I can't believe being a left is a thing so many do I guess all on benefits " It looks like you're trying to type in English. Would you like some help? | |||
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"Burnham is doing what every opposition party does every time: tells the electorate what it wants to hear (mostly) and is straight talking. Once in power, the rhetoric changes, they're shackled, it happens every time! If Burnham becomes PM watch this space. I'd love to be proved wrong but the important, significant, promises made are rarely kept. It's a massive tanker he's turning, can't be done quickly. He'll be pilloried within a year. " Sadly, tis the truth. When we owe our international financiers nearly 900 Billion in bond finance, we just can't afford Burnham plans. They may be the best ideas in the world, but we are fucking broke | |||
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" Will it make any difference to the man in the street? Sadly COVID, wars and the Cons have bankrupted this country. To few paying in, far too many taking money out having paid zero in!!! " The financial crash permanently damaged our growth per capita. Look at the figures. It's undeniable. COVID didn't help. Nor did Brexit. But the damage from 08/09 was long lasting | |||
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"Both hard core communist I'm not sure you understand what a communist is. " The Fabian Society is Britain's oldest political think tank and a democratic socialist membership organization founded in 1884. Affiliated as a socialist society within the UK Labour Party, it focuses on long-term gradualist reform and operates as an independent publisher and research hub.Core Facts & IdentityMission: Promotes greater equality, public service value, sustainable development, and social justice through empirical, long-term reform.Ideology: Champions "evolutionary socialism"—a belief that radical goals are best achieved gradually through democratic political means rather than revolution.Name Origin: Named after the Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus (known as "Fabius the Delayer"), representing a strategy of patience and waiting for the right moment to act.Role in UK PoliticsLabour Party Roots: It is one of the original founders of the Labour Party and remains formally affiliated to it.Membership: It boasts a membership of over 7,000. Membership is open to all on the left, and a large majority of Fabians are also active Labour members.Political Influence: Historically, every Labour prime minister has been a Fabian, and its ranks include hundreds of prominent MPs, government officials, and policymakers.History & OutputFounders: Notable early figures included prominent writers and intellectuals like George Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, and Sidney and Beatrice Webb.Activities: The Society researches policy, hosts events and conferences, and publishes pamphlets and the quarterly Fabian Review.Key Offshoots: It supports active autonomous groups including the Young Fabians and the Fabian Women's Network. I'm not sure you do yourself | |||
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"Both hard core communist I'm not sure you understand what a communist is. The Fabian Society is Britain's oldest political think tank and a democratic socialist membership organization founded in 1884. Affiliated as a socialist society within the UK Labour Party, it focuses on long-term gradualist reform and operates as an independent publisher and research hub.Core Facts & IdentityMission: Promotes greater equality, public service value, sustainable development, and social justice through empirical, long-term reform.Ideology: Champions "evolutionary socialism"—a belief that radical goals are best achieved gradually through democratic political means rather than revolution.Name Origin: Named after the Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus (known as "Fabius the Delayer"), representing a strategy of patience and waiting for the right moment to act.Role in UK PoliticsLabour Party Roots: It is one of the original founders of the Labour Party and remains formally affiliated to it.Membership: It boasts a membership of over 7,000. Membership is open to all on the left, and a large majority of Fabians are also active Labour members.Political Influence: Historically, every Labour prime minister has been a Fabian, and its ranks include hundreds of prominent MPs, government officials, and policymakers.History & OutputFounders: Notable early figures included prominent writers and intellectuals like George Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, and Sidney and Beatrice Webb.Activities: The Society researches policy, hosts events and conferences, and publishes pamphlets and the quarterly Fabian Review.Key Offshoots: It supports active autonomous groups including the Young Fabians and the Fabian Women's Network. I'm not sure you do yourself " so what you saying then xx | |||
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"I can't believe being a left is a thing so many do I guess all on benefits " Hahahaha. I'm very left leaning ,really because I believe in people getting treated fairly and looked after I'd say that I'm fairly successful and I am self employed. Your comment is just nonsense. | |||
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"Both hard core communist I'm not sure you understand what a communist is. The Fabian Society is Britain's oldest political think tank and a democratic socialist membership organization founded in 1884. Affiliated as a socialist society within the UK Labour Party, it focuses on long-term gradualist reform and operates as an independent publisher and research hub.Core Facts & IdentityMission: Promotes greater equality, public service value, sustainable development, and social justice through empirical, long-term reform.Ideology: Champions "evolutionary socialism"—a belief that radical goals are best achieved gradually through democratic political means rather than revolution.Name Origin: Named after the Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus (known as "Fabius the Delayer"), representing a strategy of patience and waiting for the right moment to act.Role in UK PoliticsLabour Party Roots: It is one of the original founders of the Labour Party and remains formally affiliated to it.Membership: It boasts a membership of over 7,000. Membership is open to all on the left, and a large majority of Fabians are also active Labour members.Political Influence: Historically, every Labour prime minister has been a Fabian, and its ranks include hundreds of prominent MPs, government officials, and policymakers.History & OutputFounders: Notable early figures included prominent writers and intellectuals like George Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, and Sidney and Beatrice Webb.Activities: The Society researches policy, hosts events and conferences, and publishes pamphlets and the quarterly Fabian Review.Key Offshoots: It supports active autonomous groups including the Young Fabians and the Fabian Women's Network. I'm not sure you do yourself " I understand Fabianism and while both aim for less inequality and a fairer society,they are not the same thing at all. | |||
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"Burnham its them eyebrows just no way xx " That's the most important thing in politics,the eyebrows. It's a known fact that. | |||
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"Sadly another Zionist puppet. Agenda 2030 happening " Anti semitism just what we need do you believe in ZOG? | |||
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"Sadly another Zionist puppet. Agenda 2030 happening " Hahaha | |||
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"Sadly another Zionist puppet. Agenda 2030 happening " True - although unlike Starmer, he and Labour Friends Of Israel between them have managed to cover his tracks very well indeed. There is a lot of detail available about his positions on UK politics - or at least what they are now, vs what they will be when he becomes PM - but his time as Manchester Mayor has enabled him to gloss over his views on foreign policy. | |||
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"Sadly another Zionist puppet. Agenda 2030 happening Anti semitism just what we need do you believe in ZOG?" Opposition to Zionism does not equal anti-semitism, despite what Bibi Netanyahu and the Israeli lobby would have you believe. | |||
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"Put it this way. Andy Burnham can't do a worse job then kier starmer What has he done wrong? Clearing up the mess that the Tories left behind is a mammoth task, it will take years We are still paying thousands in PFI some for property no longer usable , a brilliant labour program to fool the public into thinking they where investing in communities. Over price and poor quality cheers labour " PFI was originated by Tories under John Major, although it was taken up by Labour under Blair. | |||
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"Starmer or Burnham - Neither " Both are just as bad as one another | |||
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"You just cannot have pm with pornstar eyebrows xx " Pmsl 🤣 | |||
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"You just cannot have pm with pornstar eyebrows xx Pmsl 🤣 "   | |||
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"You just cannot have pm with pornstar eyebrows xx " ... ... What about Chancellor? Denis Healy? | |||
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"You just cannot have pm with pornstar eyebrows xx ... ... What about Chancellor? Denis Healy?" he would have been a good pm his brows were natural not pimped and plucked xx | |||
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"Both hard core communist " ... ... Utter nonsense. | |||
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"And it it wont get any better under either of them " Both of them aren’t fit to run this country | |||
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"Two cheeks of the same arshole" Yep 👍 | |||
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"You just cannot have pm with pornstar eyebrows xx ... ... What about Chancellor? Denis Healy?" At least Denis Healy got to appear on Spitting image. | |||
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"Starmer set to resign 😁" Certainly being coerced into setting a time-table for his departure and a 'smooth transition' of power to Burnham. Seems to be a foregone conclusion. | |||
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"Starmer set to resign 😁 Certainly being coerced into setting a time-table for his departure and a 'smooth transition' of power to Burnham. Seems to be a foregone conclusion." Yep mate starting Monday if reports are to be believed | |||
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"I bet Starmer has the best cock.😂" I think we should vote on that lol xx | |||
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"Let’s hope the lady in number 11 also moves out" If Starmer goes she will go as well. Just hope Burnham appoints a sensible chancellor and not zero-brained Silliband. | |||
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"Political discussion is now pointless. No party left or right can reverse our inevitable self destruction. Our debt _ountain will bury us. It can only increase beyond recovery. If you can, leave. Soon, homeowners will have immigrants billeted on them. No-one can stop the next huge wave of 'asylum seekers' on its way. Oh, yes, and don't have children, they will be owned by the state and programmed from birth. " 👍👍👍👍👍 | |||
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"Political discussion is now pointless. No party left or right can reverse our inevitable self destruction. Our debt _ountain will bury us. It can only increase beyond recovery. If you can, leave. Soon, homeowners will have immigrants billeted on them. No-one can stop the next huge wave of 'asylum seekers' on its way. Oh, yes, and don't have children, they will be owned by the state and programmed from birth. " The way this country is going I’m glad i haven’t got kids I’d hate to think what’s it’s going to be like for them in years to come | |||
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"Let’s hope the lady in number 11 also moves out If Starmer goes she will go as well. Just hope Burnham appoints a sensible chancellor and not zero-brained Silliband." That is certainly a very scary proposition | |||
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" Will it make any difference to the man in the street? Sadly COVID, wars and the Cons have bankrupted this country. To few paying in, far too many taking money out having paid zero in!!! " both cunts | |||
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"Non there both tossers " Well said 👍 | |||
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" Will it make any difference to the man in the street? Sadly COVID, wars and the Cons have bankrupted this country. To few paying in, far too many taking money out having paid zero in!!! We are on a massively dark road with comrade starmerama and his cronies. If Burnham now manages the slither into no 10, as seems likely, the future just got even darker than it has been. Very VERY dark days ahead " You've nailed it. The future is bleak. | |||
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"The Labour Party needs to be removed from power. " starmer or Burnham, both dangerous pricks | |||
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"'Venom of Fargism" what about the venom form the left? what about all the hate spewing form the left? what about all the death threats and attacks on Farage, A big chunk of venum there, and worse." | |||
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".... like choosing how you'd rather die" Yeah but dont forget, you pay tax when you die!! | |||
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"Burnham's played the long game. Spend a few years away from the House of Commons as Mayor of a large city, with the intention of returning later, when the time is right, to claim the throne he believes he believes is his. Straight out of the Boris Johnson playbook." Only he is not have the man Boris is | |||
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"Burnham's played the long game. Spend a few years away from the House of Commons as Mayor of a large city, with the intention of returning later, when the time is right, to claim the throne he believes he believes is his. Straight out of the Boris Johnson playbook. Only he is not have the man Boris is" Thank goodness. | |||
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" will he prove to be another Truss or Sunak and in a year's time they will be baying for his blood as well." Truss, thank God, was one of a kind. A conceited, deluded halfwit. Good for a laugh, but a hugely expensive one. We shall not see her like again. | |||
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"I don't know what all the fuss is about Labour are finish the Over 60s will put a stop to it ." And so they should after the way Labour treated our OAPs | |||
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"I think Burnham is a top, Starmer vers/bottom." Are you sure Starmer is bottom? That's something only his wife, lord Ali, and a handful of Ukrainian rent boys would know. | |||
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"Not sure why Burnham is seen as the great saviour….his politics are basically the same as the current incumbent. So I don’t see any great changes to come. Hes Starmer Mark 2 with a northern accent!" He's a bit to the left of Starmer which may not go down too well with 'Middle England'. Okay he's got more charisma that Starmer. Would be difficult to have any less. However no one as yet knows what he has to offer. Saw an interview with him and he was vague and kept changing the subject. | |||
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"Burnham has my vote for the next election." He has my vote to cum on me | |||
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"Not sure why Burnham is seen as the great saviour….his politics are basically the same as the current incumbent. So I don’t see any great changes to come. Hes Starmer Mark 2 with a northern accent!" Spot on. He may be more charismatic, but that's just front and nothing changes if he becomes pm. His big challenge will be the left back benchers. He's either going to have be strong or bow to their idiology and therefore increase taxes. I put my money on the later. | |||
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"Burnham can spunk up me" Well we are constantly being shafted by all politicians, so there's hope for you yet  | |||
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"Same story, different book" Indeed! Same circus, different clown juggling the balls! 🤡 | |||
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"Not sure why Burnham is seen as the great saviour….his politics are basically the same as the current incumbent. So I don’t see any great changes to come. Hes Starmer Mark 2 with a northern accent!" As you're commenting on Starmer's politics, perhaps you're the ideal chap to explain exactly what those politics are. I've just watched an hour's program on Starmer, with lots of comments by MPs, journalists & others. i've also read several articles, that are what you might call obituaries on his political career, at least so far. All of these people have met, interviewed or worked with Starmer, and there is one comment that almost all of them make: they've never met a man who has so little interest in politics. This is astonishing in someone who managed to attain the highest political office in the land. Intelligent people scratch their heads while they search for an explanation of why, exactly, he wanted the job. Where they would usually have expected to find an identifiable set of ideological principles, there is a blank space. An empty bag. A word often used is "pragmatic". Perhaps that explains all those U-turns. | |||
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"Not sure why Burnham is seen as the great saviour….his politics are basically the same as the current incumbent. So I don’t see any great changes to come. Hes Starmer Mark 2 with a northern accent! As you're commenting on Starmer's politics, perhaps you're the ideal chap to explain exactly what those politics are. I've just watched an hour's program on Starmer, with lots of comments by MPs, journalists & others. i've also read several articles, that are what you might call obituaries on his political career, at least so far. All of these people have met, interviewed or worked with Starmer, and there is one comment that almost all of them make: they've never met a man who has so little interest in politics. This is astonishing in someone who managed to attain the highest political office in the land. Intelligent people scratch their heads while they search for an explanation of why, exactly, he wanted the job. Where they would usually have expected to find an identifiable set of ideological principles, there is a blank space. An empty bag. A word often used is "pragmatic". Perhaps that explains all those U-turns. " Pragmatic means making decisions in a reasonable, logical way. But Starmer was anything but. Leading a party taking measures based purely on socialist dogma | |||
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" Pragmatic means making decisions in a reasonable, logical way. But Starmer was anything but. Leading a party taking measures based purely on socialist dogma" Exactly what actions taken by Starmer conform to what you call "socialist dogma"? Come to that, what do you understand by the word "socialist"? Detailed explanation please, not a load of waffle. | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm." Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform. | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm. Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform." I have a strong feeling that Farage is a bigger phoney than he appears .. I believe that secretly he does not want government .. I have a strong feeling he will step down as leader if his Party. He has history. | |||
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" Will it make any difference to the man in the street? Sadly COVID, wars and the Cons have bankrupted this country. To few paying in, far too many taking money out having paid zero in!!! Boris did what he had to do to ensure people kept there homes and food on the table. Hwarned us it would have to be paid back " | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm. Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform. I have a strong feeling that Farage is a bigger phoney than he appears .. I believe that secretly he does not want government .. I have a strong feeling he will step down as leader if his Party. He has history." He’s all mouth and no trousers mate and just says the type of things that gets his followers on side despite the fact most of what he says is a load of nonsense Sad thing is people fall for it and actually believe he will be good for our country but I’ve no doubt that the areas that voted Reform in during the local elections will soon realise what a big mistake they have made It’s now time for Labour to step up put past mistakes behind them and become the Party for the people and keep Farage and his cronies at bay before the country really does fall apart | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm. Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform. I have a strong feeling that Farage is a bigger phoney than he appears .. I believe that secretly he does not want government .. I have a strong feeling he will step down as leader if his Party. He has history. He’s all mouth and no trousers mate and just says the type of things that gets his followers on side despite the fact most of what he says is a load of nonsense Sad thing is people fall for it and actually believe he will be good for our country but I’ve no doubt that the areas that voted Reform in during the local elections will soon realise what a big mistake they have made It’s now time for Labour to step up put past mistakes behind them and become the Party for the people and keep Farage and his cronies at bay before the country really does fall apart " Its interesting you replied to a Burnhan v Starmer topic by disrespecting retired elderly folks, Your Parents generation, and then concentrated all your input on slagging off Mr Farrage, An individual. | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm. Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform. I have a strong feeling that Farage is a bigger phoney than he appears .. I believe that secretly he does not want government .. I have a strong feeling he will step down as leader if his Party. He has history. He’s all mouth and no trousers mate and just says the type of things that gets his followers on side despite the fact most of what he says is a load of nonsense Sad thing is people fall for it and actually believe he will be good for our country but I’ve no doubt that the areas that voted Reform in during the local elections will soon realise what a big mistake they have made It’s now time for Labour to step up put past mistakes behind them and become the Party for the people and keep Farage and his cronies at bay before the country really does fall apart Its interesting you replied to a Burnhan v Starmer topic by disrespecting retired elderly folks, Your Parents generation, and then concentrated all your input on slagging off Mr Farrage, An individual. I’ve never disrespected the Elderly retired folk i actually deal with them in a daily basis in my job and have the upmost respect for them so get your facts right before slating me OK " | |||
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"Starmer and liebour are a proven disaster for the Uk The now ex mayor of manchester has no experience in international affairs o experience regards the nhs no knowledge of world crisis, wars etc hasnt a clue regards defense spending etc etc So supposedly he will lean on those who have this back groud. which is exactly what Starmer did" Liebour?? There was only one PM who lost his job for serial lying and that was the ex disgraced PM Pfeffel Johnson .. Tory PM. You really have a short memory | |||
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"Sadly another Zionist puppet. Agenda 2030 happening True - although unlike Starmer, he and Labour Friends Of Israel between them have managed to cover his tracks very well indeed. ..." Antistarmite! | |||
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"I bet Starmer has the best cock.😂 100% micro penis on him like" | |||
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"Burnham will well and truly expose the phoney Farage for what he is .. for those who still cant see clearly. Makerfield is the beginning for Reform .. they are toast with Burnham at the helm. Try and explain that to the Good Old OAPs of this country who will do anything to get Nigel Farage and 30p Lee in power , every OAP I know are voting Reform." That may be the case in your neck of the wood but I meet up with a lot of OAPs who, like myself, detest Farage and don't trust him one inch. | |||
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"Two cheeks of the same arse xx Borris is waiting as he said in his leaving speech lik cincinnatus I will return to my plough xx " ... .. The Peppa Pig speech was a stotter.... | |||
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"Both hard core communist Hahaha, I'd say that you could need to study what communism is." . Like Jimmy Summerville..( oops,meant to put in malaprop posts)  | |||
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"Starmer and liebour are a proven disaster for the Uk The now ex mayor of manchester has no experience in international affairs o experience regards the nhs no knowledge of world crisis, wars etc hasnt a clue regards defense spending etc etc So supposedly he will lean on those who have this back groud. which is exactly what Starmer did" ... ... Did Sunak have a clue regarding defence spending before he got the gig Dave? Did Johnson lean on others? What knowledge of world crises would Badenoch bring to the table? Exactly Dave...🏌️ | |||
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