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By *hitesage OP Man
4 weeks ago

withywood

I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
4 weeks ago

North East

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

Believe you me some can be very hostile on here especially if they don’t agree with you about a certain subject

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By (user no longer on site)
4 weeks ago

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

It's all issues now where those kind of responses are common place.

I come from an era where to debate and talk to people with completely opposite views was normal, in the work place, the pubs, the home etc.

To be reductionist and then personally insulting or to use pejoratives in an argument was seen as a weakness in your position, as well as a character flaw.

Cognition has drastically reduced in society, to be taken over by emotionalism.

Passion is good but it has to be backed up with knowledge and rhetoric, and as most people can't engage on that level they hurl pejoratives and insults.

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By *xmareMan
4 weeks ago

Norwich

Social media and the rise of the keyboard commando.

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By *LASGOW 60s GUYMan
4 weeks ago

Glasgow South

Far too much "me, me, me" on here which generates hostility from the entitled mob! Any topic will get that sort of reaction. Its the 'if you don't agree with me, you must be wrong, stupid or both' brigade. If we were all the same life would be boring

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By *evanianMan
4 weeks ago

Gogledd Ddwyrain Cymru

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

The gender i/d topic kicks off fast because it feels personal. When you disagree, people can take it as “you think I shouldn’t exist,” even if you don’t mean it that way. Both sides worry about losing things that matter to them — rights, respect, or the way things have always been — so they get defensive. Online makes it worse because you can’t hear tone and people expect the worst. Disagreement often feels like rejection because it comes down to “am I ok?” You can keep things calmer by saying you’re talking about rules, not people, and by showing you know it’s a touchy subject. It’s hard to stay calm when identity, politics and beliefs all mix together.

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By *arridMan
4 weeks ago

Brighton

A lot of people have lost the urge or never had the ability to debate. They take things personally, can’t argue a point coherently, won’t accept facts and it’s become very black or white, this or that, no nuance, no compromise. Zeitgeist.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Bedford

Bigoted people can't debate xx

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By *ichey6Man
4 weeks ago

aberdeen

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?

It's all issues now where those kind of responses are common place.

I come from an era where to debate and talk to people with completely opposite views was normal, in the work place, the pubs, the home etc.

To be reductionist and then personally insulting or to use pejoratives in an argument was seen as a weakness in your position, as well as a character flaw.

Cognition has drastically reduced in society, to be taken over by emotionalism.

Passion is good but it has to be backed up with knowledge and rhetoric, and as most people can't engage on that level they hurl pejoratives and insults."

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Debord saw it early and saw it deep- The screen dictates and immerses. The suppression of ego is impossible- we are compelled to engage and social media only amplfies the desire.

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By *ildwestheroMan
4 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

Everyone is entitled to express their opinion whether it is to agree, disagree or put a totally different angle on the subject. Sadly some will blow the proverbial fuse rather than offer sensible debate.

The subject of gender identity comes up time and time again on many media platforms and not just here. It's a real red hot potato with some.

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By *airFetishMan
3 weeks ago

Maldon

"Bigoted people can't debate xx "

A curiously circular comment.

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By *hitesage OP Man
3 weeks ago

withywood

I agree all your comments are valid; they add their point. But like somebody said, people take it personally even if it wasn't personal or aimed at anyone or any group, which I did state. So they will throw a stupid or sly comment to provoke an argument. Trying to make the OP look like an aggressor. And I'm pointing out once again my comment or comments are not pointing out, accusing, or dismissing anyone. This post is open and respectful, with no hostility.

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By *ensualblokeMan
3 weeks ago

London /Colchester

Unfortunately, this is the internet.

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By *oug999Man
3 weeks ago

Horncastle

Live and let live. You shouldn't compensate for another person's insecurity. Too much there there. Life, unfortunately,is tough.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Debates on here are quite tame compared to some media platforms. Don't think the mods on here would allow you to get away with some of the awful things you get called on certain well known sites.

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East

"Debates on here are quite tame compared to some media platforms. Don't think the mods on here would allow you to get away with some of the awful things you get called on certain well known sites."

This 👍

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

In a galaxy far far away

Ok let's go.....

OP you are well known here for your views on trans and predestination stuff.

So your post implying that it's the fault of the people who disagree with you is wrong.

And as your thread title suggests, no, you are not asking this in good faith, it's another bait post.

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By *usan jonesTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Some people get very angry when you don’t agree or subscribe to their thoughts, they make me smile, just ignore them they don’t go away but they’re entertaining

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By *aulTooSmallMan
3 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

"Far too much "me, me, me" on here which generates hostility from the entitled mob! Any topic will get that sort of reaction. Its the 'if you don't agree with me, you must be wrong, stupid or both' brigade. If we were all the same life would be boring"

Is it me me me or them them them or us us us or who who who or what what what? 🤣🤣🤣

Lost the will to live with the nonsense 🤣🤣🤣

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By *urvMan
3 weeks ago

christchurch Dorset

It’s their problem not yours

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By *annyDanielleMan
3 weeks ago

Street, Somerset

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

Ha, you want to try bringing up the subject of Israel.

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By *imetoplayMan
3 weeks ago

stanford le hope

In a pub as an example, if someone spoke to someone to there face with some of the vicious spiteful comments that I have seen on here, then there would have been an attitude adjustment carried out immediately in most cases.

BUT. .. Because they are hiding behind there keyboard they can say what they want.

Nasty cowards. Probably bullied in the real world.

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By *lymouth guy 55Man
3 weeks ago

south glos

Perhaps this is another indication of the loss of critical thinking fueled by toxicity in social media. Why think things through for yourself when you can get an opinion from your go to influencer. I can't say I understand all aspects of this subject which is vast and personal but that doesn't matter. People are free to be themselves and my opinion is just that.

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By *ubtitsMan
3 weeks ago

hyde

Yes I can't understand people being hostile and nasty just because you have a different opinion.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

In a galaxy far far away

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By *ooking for sexy funMan
3 weeks ago

Taunton

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?

Believe you me some can be very hostile on here especially if they don’t agree with you about a certain subject "

I dont understand why there is so much hostility ,im on here for nsa fun and although i dont agree with some things people post i just accept it and move on ,

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By *amelaXTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Swindon

"Bigoted people can't debate xx "

Seems like you've already made your mind up.

Maybe your views are the 'bigoted' ones 🤷🏻‍♀️

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By *lexieMan
3 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

I never had a public school education, however, i have learned that 'debate' was part of the curriculum there! Possibly the thought was that many of the better educated public school types would end up in parlimant or the judiciary where debate was a required skill! The secondary modern school I attended never broached the subject and teaching was mainly by rote! Hence, for many in society... debate is an un-aquired skill and if in dispute over a subject the only retort is often a smack in the mouth or to hurl personal abuse! Sometimes... you have to learn to agree to disagree over something without becoming distraught about it!

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By *ustPeekinMan
3 weeks ago

Alresford

People have strongly held opinions. They fail to convince the person with whom they are debating of the correctness of their opinion and change their mind, and this leads to frustration. That in turn leads to name calling which starts a cycle of name calling. They put the opponent in a mental ‘bad people’ list and are negative whenever they come into contact with them, as we can see in this very thread.

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By *andysmithTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Poole

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?

It's all issues now where those kind of responses are common place.

I come from an era where to debate and talk to people with completely opposite views was normal, in the work place, the pubs, the home etc.

To be reductionist and then personally insulting or to use pejoratives in an argument was seen as a weakness in your position, as well as a character flaw.

Cognition has drastically reduced in society, to be taken over by emotionalism.

Passion is good but it has to be backed up with knowledge and rhetoric, and as most people can't engage on that level they hurl pejoratives and insults."

Unfortunately what you have written is true. The debate in parliament replaced by insult, the gutter press, the education system and social media (electronic gossiping) all contribute to antognisim and bile towards different views.

Miss Smith ❤️💝💘

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By *hitesage OP Man
3 weeks ago

withywood

"Yes I can't understand people being hostile and nasty just because you have a different opinion."
I agreed with this comment. Even when people try to make amends, you still get the few that tried their hardest to cause an argument.

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By *eliaTVTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Doncaster

"Bigoted people can't debate xx "

Sums it up in a nutshell.

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By *G602Man
3 weeks ago

South Hants

"Ha, you want to try bringing up the subject of Israel."

...So this Israeli transsexual rabbi walks into a bar with a frog on her head.....

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By *ovecock4Man
3 weeks ago

grimsby

My sentiments are simply if I see a person proposing a subject I’m not interested in then I respect their views but don’t enter into the discussion.

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By *ayboy1966Man
3 weeks ago

Glasgow

There are only two genders!

Fact!

The end.

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By *tephen_b50Man
3 weeks ago

Bristol

"Unfortunately, this is the internet."

Perhaps that's part of the problem. In a face to face discussion, words are exchanged, but they evaporate into air, never to be seen or heard again.

But on the internet, they survive. They are preserved, possibly forever. They almost have the permanence of words carved in stone.

And so ... they need to be CORRECTED! Because somebody on the internet is WRONG!!!!

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By *ellowladyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

scarbrough

"I've noticed that when I express a personal view on gender identity, even when I'm not insulting anyone or telling others how to live, some of the responses become very hostile or personal.

Why do discussions around this subject seem to become emotionally charged so quickly? Is it because people hear disagreement as rejection, or is there something else going on?"

Why do you feel the need to bring up this topic when you know it cause an arguement.

Have you ever sat down with a trans woman or man and tried to understand why we are like we are and what drives us to live our libes the way we do ?

Why is this topic always about trans women , we keep being reminded we are all men, yet we keep seeing posts and meeting a trans man. With the new law around gender are they not women ? and not allowed on this site ?.

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

"A lot of people have lost the urge or never had the ability to debate. They take things personally, can’t argue a point coherently, won’t accept facts and it’s become very black or white, this or that, no nuance, no compromise. Zeitgeist. "

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By *usan 749ukTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Bangor

"There are only two genders!

Fact!

The end. "

Very true

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By *tM_transboyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Gillingham

Are you attempting these conversations on here? With trans people? Honestly, it might just be as simple as the environment we're in. Mixing debates about trans people with an innately sexual environment is just intimidating regardless of your approach.

Sure, no one should be aggressive in letting you know they're uncomfortable. Don't take it personally, hopefully they won't either.

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By *erdyHollyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

In a galaxy far far away

_hitesage

I apologise for my comment on this thread. I was having a bad day and snapped at you, that was wrong of me.

I appreciate we don't see eye to eye on stuff, but I'll be nice from now on.

🙃

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By *luteus maxMan
3 weeks ago

North of Havant

I take a simplistic view. There is male and there is female. I'm not a woman because I enjoy being fucked. In fact I'm not even homosexual. I'm just a well adjusted heterosexual male who likes the feeling of being fucked.

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By *ose_QuartzTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Berkshire

I love reading these type of posts and how people get so highly wound up. The OP definitely started this as bait and just threw the hand grenade in but you’ve gotta laugh about it. It’s that certain person on this thread who is so self centred and up themselves it’s almost painful. Personally I don’t have a bad bone in my body but fuck me you rub me up the wrong way lol just toxic on every level.

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By *ammy aka SammyTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Bedford

"Bigoted people can't debate xx

A curiously circular comment."
not really debating any subject, requires the ability to concede and change your mind. when you're argument is flawed. I'm not a bigoted person show me evidence that proves me wrong in my opinion on any subject ian I will change my mind. That's debating xx

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