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"Been talking about it all week on the station I listen to should burnham win will he go? If he does then I have even less respect for him and that bar is very low " Same here. It would just go to prove that he is a weak defeatist or perhaps hates the job of being PM and is just looking for a way out. | |||
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"Been talking about it all week on the station I listen to should burnham win will he go? If he does then I have even less respect for him and that bar is very low Same here. It would just go to prove that he is a weak defeatist or perhaps hates the job of being PM and is just looking for a way out." He’s definitely a very weak man that’s one thing that is certain | |||
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"The thing is you all want to see labour out, but who do you want "in". Farage and his thugs, tax dodgers, failed Tories, and downright idiots(30p Lee) for instance. Be intersting who some on here would vote for." I want someone in who will get justice for the Tnousands of young girls and children victimised by he grooming gangs. Burnham will throw all tnese victims under the bus. He knows who he has to grovel to. | |||
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"If he does cave in and go so quickly just be grateful the Russians didn't invade under his watch. Imagine his response: "Yes Mr Putin. Of course you are your troops are welcome here. I'll disband our armed forces at once and hand all our military bases over to you. Nuclear installations the lot. I'll lock up all government ministers and MPs in high security prisons to save you the bother. Would you like me to stay on as tea-boy to the puppet government you are about to appoint?"" 😂😂 tbh I’m surprised he never handed the Falkland Islands over to the Argies in fact I’m sure if ever the Argies decided to try and take them him and his pathetic weak cronies would back down and go into hiding Pathetic sorry excuse of a man he’s embarrassing | |||
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"Once again we're seeing political journalists driving the fuckin' narrative. There's too much game playing and too little proper governing. Chris Mason is a nerdy wanker." 👍 | |||
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"Been talking about it all week on the station I listen to should burnham win will he go? If he does then I have even less respect for him and that bar is very low Same here. It would just go to prove that he is a weak defeatist or perhaps hates the job of being PM and is just looking for a way out." That sounds more like Farage's appeoach to poliyics, certainly his time as an MEP is anything to go by. | |||
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"Are the Sausages free yet ? Mine is "That’s good to hear 👹 | |||
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"Nothing chamges. More taxes to give out to give the those who wont work. Thats where the votes are" Yep totally agree sod the people who work | |||
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"The thing is you all want to see labour out, but who do you want "in". Farage and his thugs, tax dodgers, failed Tories, and downright idiots(30p Lee) for instance. Be intersting who some on here would vote for. I want someone in who will get justice for the Tnousands of young girls and children victimised by he grooming gangs. Burnham will throw all tnese victims under the bus. He knows who he has to grovel to." What would justice look like? | |||
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"Nothing chamges. More taxes to give out to give the those who wont work. Thats where the votes are" Simple solution to that no job no vote . | |||
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"Wouldn't surprise me that if Burnham gets in there'll be plenty of left of the party getting cabinet jobs Almost like a labour left coup lol A left labour couldn't win with the electorate so do it this way. Like it or loathe it...Starmer stood in an election to be leader of the labour party. The labour party came up with it's manifesto and pledges. The electorate voted them in with a landslide victory two years ago. Whoever leads should follow that mandate...maybe some fine tuning, changing priorities, better communication...but should still be the same theme. If it differs they should call an election. And part of me wishes that at the next election the floor gets wiped with them. That's why they're trying to hang on for Starmer to go rather than stand up and activate the process. Back stabbing cowards who don't want the buck stopping with them if it goes to shit, when they can be accused of instigating it. If Starmer is made to go they can say...I didn't cause anything I just stood for election when the position had already become vacant. Looks more like a coup every day lol " What have Labour implemented from their pre election manifesto? Tell me 1 single thing that since labour took power has made the tax payers life easier? | |||
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"I would love to see starmer drive to the Palace tommorrow and call a general election and get his own back." That would be so funny 😆 | |||
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"Wouldn't surprise me that if Burnham gets in there'll be plenty of left of the party getting cabinet jobs Almost like a labour left coup lol A left labour couldn't win with the electorate so do it this way. Like it or loathe it...Starmer stood in an election to be leader of the labour party. The labour party came up with it's manifesto and pledges. The electorate voted them in with a landslide victory two years ago. Whoever leads should follow that mandate...maybe some fine tuning, changing priorities, better communication...but should still be the same theme. If it differs they should call an election. And part of me wishes that at the next election the floor gets wiped with them. That's why they're trying to hang on for Starmer to go rather than stand up and activate the process. Back stabbing cowards who don't want the buck stopping with them if it goes to shit, when they can be accused of instigating it. If Starmer is made to go they can say...I didn't cause anything I just stood for election when the position had already become vacant. Looks more like a coup every day lol What have Labour implemented from their pre election manifesto? Tell me 1 single thing that since labour took power has made the tax payers life easier? " Let me just say this So Labour (starmar!) announced digital id cards (that flopped!) yet answer me why i booked a weekend caravan holiday in the uk and had to provide a digital id check before I could book it Being self employed I work for several different companies and often get paid via umbrella companies So 1 in particular has now stated I need to provide a copy of my passport and selfie id to prove that I’m British and got the right to work in my own country The country I was born in the country I own a house in the country I have paid taxes to for 35 years And to add salt to that particular wound it’s an Irish umbrella company! Sum it up I have to prove I have the right to work in the uk to a EU company! Back handed snidey labour introduced digital id through the back door ! Without anyone noticing! | |||
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"Wouldn't surprise me that if Burnham gets in there'll be plenty of left of the party getting cabinet jobs Almost like a labour left coup lol A left labour couldn't win with the electorate so do it this way. Like it or loathe it...Starmer stood in an election to be leader of the labour party. The labour party came up with it's manifesto and pledges. The electorate voted them in with a landslide victory two years ago. Whoever leads should follow that mandate...maybe some fine tuning, changing priorities, better communication...but should still be the same theme. If it differs they should call an election. And part of me wishes that at the next election the floor gets wiped with them. That's why they're trying to hang on for Starmer to go rather than stand up and activate the process. Back stabbing cowards who don't want the buck stopping with them if it goes to shit, when they can be accused of instigating it. If Starmer is made to go they can say...I didn't cause anything I just stood for election when the position had already become vacant. Looks more like a coup every day lol What have Labour implemented from their pre election manifesto? Tell me 1 single thing that since labour took power has made the tax payers life easier? Let me just say this So Labour (starmar!) announced digital id cards (that flopped!) yet answer me why i booked a weekend caravan holiday in the uk and had to provide a digital id check before I could book it Being self employed I work for several different companies and often get paid via umbrella companies So 1 in particular has now stated I need to provide a copy of my passport and selfie id to prove that I’m British and got the right to work in my own country The country I was born in the country I own a house in the country I have paid taxes to for 35 years And to add salt to that particular wound it’s an Irish umbrella company! Sum it up I have to prove I have the right to work in the uk to a EU company! Back handed snidey labour introduced digital id through the back door ! Without anyone noticing! " Well said and so true | |||
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"I would love to see starmer drive to the Palace tommorrow and call a general election and get his own back." His bosses at Davos and the WEF wont let him quit till his UK destruction task is complete. If he does Burnham will accelerate it for them. | |||
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"Let’s be brutally honest about it Doesn’t make a difference who heads up Labour They got 2 more years to bring on the total collapse of the uk and then they are done ! There isn’t a working taxpaying citizen that would waste a vote on the shower of shit ever again By far the worst government I have seen or experienced in my life ! King Charlie should be ashamed he allows such a shambles continue! "Agree 👍 | |||
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"Wouldn't surprise me that if Burnham gets in there'll be plenty of left of the party getting cabinet jobs Almost like a labour left coup lol A left labour couldn't win with the electorate so do it this way. Like it or loathe it...Starmer stood in an election to be leader of the labour party. The labour party came up with it's manifesto and pledges. The electorate voted them in with a landslide victory two years ago. Whoever leads should follow that mandate...maybe some fine tuning, changing priorities, better communication...but should still be the same theme. If it differs they should call an election. And part of me wishes that at the next election the floor gets wiped with them. That's why they're trying to hang on for Starmer to go rather than stand up and activate the process. Back stabbing cowards who don't want the buck stopping with them if it goes to shit, when they can be accused of instigating it. If Starmer is made to go they can say...I didn't cause anything I just stood for election when the position had already become vacant. Looks more like a coup every day lol What have Labour implemented from their pre election manifesto? Tell me 1 single thing that since labour took power has made the tax payers life easier? Let me just say this So Labour (starmar!) announced digital id cards (that flopped!) yet answer me why i booked a weekend caravan holiday in the uk and had to provide a digital id check before I could book it Being self employed I work for several different companies and often get paid via umbrella companies So 1 in particular has now stated I need to provide a copy of my passport and selfie id to prove that I’m British and got the right to work in my own country The country I was born in the country I own a house in the country I have paid taxes to for 35 years And to add salt to that particular wound it’s an Irish umbrella company! Sum it up I have to prove I have the right to work in the uk to a EU company! Back handed snidey labour introduced digital id through the back door ! Without anyone noticing! " Could it be EU rules? Another Brexit bonus? I genuinely don’t know, just wondering out loud. | |||
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"I would love to see starmer drive to the Palace tommorrow and call a general election and get his own back." Can't happen. I believe parliament has to approve its own dissolution nowadays and those chickens won't be voting for KFC. | |||
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"Let’s be brutally honest about it Doesn’t make a difference who heads up Labour They got 2 more years to bring on the total collapse of the uk and then they are done ! There isn’t a working taxpaying citizen that would waste a vote on the shower of shit ever again By far the worst government I have seen or experienced in my life ! King Charlie should be ashamed he allows such a shambles continue! "" I'm no labour advocate but I can think of worse leadership in recent times. Truss, Kwarteng. Johnson, Javid, Sunak, Zahawi although I thought Sunak did a decent job during covid. British politics is up shit creek. I can't put any faith in any party these days. It's like choosing from the last 5 players who haven't yet been picked for a school football match.....they're all shit. " | |||
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"Let’s be brutally honest about it Doesn’t make a difference who heads up Labour They got 2 more years to bring on the total collapse of the uk and then they are done ! There isn’t a working taxpaying citizen that would waste a vote on the shower of shit ever again By far the worst government I have seen or experienced in my life ! King Charlie should be ashamed he allows such a shambles continue! "No where near as bad as Boris followed by Liz Truss...they ruined the country in a very short time. Short memory some people have | |||
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"I'm not sure why people want Starmer to go, he's doing a pretty decent job. Ok he's made mistakes, just like every other PM. We all knew it was gonna be a few years of bad news before we started to see any benefits, especially after the total mess the Tories left us in. Lets face it, the press were calling for him to go before he even set foot into no10. I know I'd rather have a steady PM who just gets on with it than a showboater who is all talk and no trousers."  | |||
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"Let’s be brutally honest about it Doesn’t make a difference who heads up Labour They got 2 more years to bring on the total collapse of the uk and then they are done ! There isn’t a working taxpaying citizen that would waste a vote on the shower of shit ever again By far the worst government I have seen or experienced in my life ! King Charlie should be ashamed he allows such a shambles continue! No where near as bad as Boris followed by Liz Truss...they ruined the country in a very short time. Short memory some people have "Obviously you are the person who has the short memory! Let me recap for you Cameron brought about brexit Terresa may was walked over by eu Ain’t got a clue wtf truss was smoking Borris stepped in to get brexit done (with the shittest deal ever) Then Covid hit (was that borriss fault?) Then sunak (a deserting sinking ship rat!) stepped up after being rejected 3 times ! (And might I add that sunak resigned to distance himself from party gate in downing street(but came back when he saw another chance)) I’m no torrie fan either ! But tories got linched by labour because of the backhand lies and corruption And then Labour go on to mirror the tories in every aspect! That pretty much sums up the short memory! | |||
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"Been talking about it all week on the station I listen to should burnham win will he go? If he does then I have even less respect for him and that bar is very low Same here. It would just go to prove that he is a weak defeatist or perhaps hates the job of being PM and is just looking for a way out. He’s definitely a very weak man that’s one thing that is certain " Not necessarily, he stood up to Trump when few others did. He has been let down massively by Labours Comms team in all this, they're an absolute fuckin disgrace. After 14 years of Tory total mismanagement a new government should've been given a 'untouchable' period by mainstream media to try and turn things around but 3 weeks after election we had the Southport incident and he and his team handled it embarrassingly badly - he was fucked from that moment on. I personally think he is a good man and would have him everyday of the week ahead of the 5 shysters who proceeded him. (Just my opinion) | |||
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"I would love to see starmer drive to the Palace tommorrow and call a general election and get his own back. His bosses at Davos and the WEF wont let him quit till his UK destruction task is complete. If he does Burnham will accelerate it for them." How are tinfoil sales in Ipswich? | |||
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"I'd let him prolapse my arse " Dont worry...he will prolapse all our arses once he totally shafts tbe Country. All I can say to you is ..you must be easily pleased | |||
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"Vote for farage peeps, see where you end up then. Good luck." Farage can reform my arse with his cock any day | |||
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"Its all smoke and mirrors. Now Burnham won the locals, starmer will step down, Burnham will step in. People will see this as a win because starmer has gone, but its still the same regime, just fronted by a new face. Everything else will remain the same. Sure a few tweaks will be made here and there to start with so it appears they are trying to appease the masses, but what they give with one hand, they will take with the other in a slight of hand distraction method as its always been done by them and the conservatives over the last 30 odd years " That sounds about right lol xx | |||
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"He’s gone 😁 I should have put a bet on yesterday "😁 I don’t think you’d have got brilliant odds mind 😬 | |||
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"Won't make a difference as labour are all about giving people on benefits more money letting more immigrants in this country and penalisings the people who who we are the ones that are worse off every time there's a budget " Typical tory view, in fact Rishi raised benefits knowing he couldn't win the general election and immigration peaked during his reign. | |||
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" 7 PMs in 10 years " This is the important stat. Our politics system is failing. | |||
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"He’s gone 😁" Going rather than gone. At least he hasn't stood down immediately and let that buffoon Lammy take over as interim PM. | |||
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"Very sad day for the UK Populist politics 1 The UK economy 0 7 PMs in 10 years What is needed is stability not playing fiddle to the social media manipulation " Starmer was awful. | |||
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"Being a bit of a cynic I am now wondering how long the new prime minister will last. Chances are it with be Burnham but not guaranteed. One thing for certain is that the press, media and other politicians will already be sharpening their knives ready for the new incumbent of No 10." The Labour Party will view Burnham as their best chance to beat Farage at the next election. | |||
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"Being a bit of a cynic I am now wondering how long the new prime minister will last. Chances are it with be Burnham but not guaranteed. One thing for certain is that the press, media and other politicians will already be sharpening their knives ready for the new incumbent of No 10." This is my gripe too, and I also feel annoyingly conflicted internally What's the point in a PM if we don't give them (/their party) time to actually do their jobs*? Do we just keep going through a new person every year until the country is magically fixed? *Excluding the iceberg that was Truss, of course | |||
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"Anyway, it's good to see tactical voters defeating frog-faced fascist Farage in several by-elections." Farage will win a GE. | |||
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"Yet another PM coming up. I wonder if he/she will do a May and hold a general election to find out if they have the backing of the voters, despite having a huge majority? Btw, it's a rhetorical question. I don't think Burnham or whoever is that daft. But then again.... "I’d be amazed if they call a general election as they know that Reform would stand a very good chance of winning | |||
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"Starmer to quit on Monday I think labour should keep two tier starmer, Friday I will not resign Saturday I stay for the good of the country Sunday I will fight in a leadership contest Monday i resign I need this guy to stay as in my 60 odd years I have never seen a politicians policies and decisions U turn so fast that there is a strong possibility that he reaches critical velocity and boldly go’s where few or so we’re told have gone before . Up his own arse" Remember Truss in the Commons? "I'm a stayer, not a quitter!". And then.... | |||
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"Who calls themselves PM isn't really so important except for one thing: he must have the strength of personality to get his huge majority to work together. Otherwise it isn't a huge majority at all. The real priority is to terminate Reeves. We don't need an semiqualified accountant/book-keeper, we need a crafty and devious manipulator with genuine experience of high finance." Since most Labour politicians are all public sector drones or tick-box politicians I think we all will be disappointed. | |||
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"The only one I have great respect for is Margaret Thatcher I was lucky being brought up under her reign I came from working class background went to university did very from her period these days I don't even vote it makes little odds to me who is in" The one who brought in Section 28 - yeah right | |||
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" Since most Labour politicians are all public sector drones or tick-box politicians I think we all will be disappointed." That goes without saying, but thank you for saying it. Though it's not just Labour that suffers from tick-box politicians...or private sector drones... The underlying problem being that the route to promotion from your nice warm seat in the Commons runs through an Oxbridge PPE degree or a legal qualification. PPE doesn't actually confer an understanding of politics, philosophy or economics. It's just a meal ticket. Having a lot of MPs from legal backgrounds seems to have resulted only in a huge increase in unnecessary legislation, with insufficient scrutiny, at that. The criteria for entry to this comfortable club need radically to be changed. | |||
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"Who calls themselves PM isn't really so important except for one thing: he must have the strength of personality to get his huge majority to work together. Otherwise it isn't a huge majority at all. The real priority is to terminate Reeves. We don't need an semiqualified accountant/book-keeper, we need a crafty and devious manipulator with genuine experience of high finance." If it's Burnham, do you think he'd pick Streeting as chancellor? | |||
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"Becoming a PM is one thing, being a PM is another! Starmer gave the impression of sitting on his hands for far too long as he wrestled with Blarites and socialists within this so called Labour party! As Harold Wilson once famously said "If you can't ride two horses at once, you shouldn't be in the circus!" Starmer couldn't, and won't be for much longer! "Harold wilson's quote was 3 horses not two The quote about two horses was the song from Asking Alexandria band | |||
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"The only one I have great respect for is Margaret Thatcher I was lucky being brought up under her reign I came from working class background went to university did very from her period these days I don't even vote it makes little odds to me who is in" The woman that f**ked over the “ Working Class” especially in the North and North East in particular it took years for us to recover from it some parts of the North East are still suffering from it Yes she did well with regards to the Falklands conflict but she hated the average working class man | |||
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"Who calls themselves PM isn't really so important except for one thing: he must have the strength of personality to get his huge majority to work together. Otherwise it isn't a huge majority at all. The real priority is to terminate Reeves. We don't need an semiqualified accountant/book-keeper, we need a crafty and devious manipulator with genuine experience of high finance. If it's Burnham, do you think he'd pick Streeting as chancellor?" Devious manipulator, maybe, but East End wide boy would be nearer the truth. Confused allegiances and no economics background at all. Hope not. | |||
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"Who calls themselves PM isn't really so important except for one thing: he must have the strength of personality to get his huge majority to work together. Otherwise it isn't a huge majority at all. The real priority is to terminate Reeves. We don't need an semiqualified accountant/book-keeper, we need a crafty and devious manipulator with genuine experience of high finance. If it's Burnham, do you think he'd pick Streeting as chancellor? Devious manipulator, maybe, but East End wide boy would be nearer the truth. Confused allegiances and no economics background at all. Hope not." Streeting is deep in the pockets of various private "healthcare" providers. He's always struck me as the kind of spiv who would defraud impoverished pensioners out of their life savings by selling them defective double glazing, or timeshare apartments in Kyiv, without a moment's compunction or regret. | |||
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"As I’ve said before the moment he shit on our pensioners with regards to the winter fuel allowance was the very moment he was finished as PM One group of people you do not shit on and show a lack of support and respect for is our pensioners which is exactly what he did He’s a weak spineless man who will go down in history as Labours shortest serving PM which is definitely not something you would want to be remembered for Good bloody riddance to him 😁" Eh true, but at least he made life harder for troons. That endeared me to him. Can't be doing with that nonsense | |||
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"Rich boomers did not need a winter fuel allowance. It was never taken away from the poorest pensioners. No pensioner died, whereas Boris Johnson's government caused the death of thousands of old folk in care homes during COVID." And yeah this. I have an family member who moaned that kier took away they're free money. They worked all their lives have more money than most. It's just pure greed. | |||
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"Rich boomers did not need a winter fuel allowance. It was never taken away from the poorest pensioners. No pensioner died, whereas Boris Johnson's government caused the death of thousands of old folk in care homes during COVID." I saw it first hand how it affected some of the pensioners so don’t give me that crap | |||
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"Cool story bro" It’s the truth But hey I’m not going to argue with you I’ve got better things to do with my time Enjoy your day | |||
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"No one died. Enjoy the rest of your day. Xx" You too mate it’s always good to have a opinion that’s what makes debates interesting 👍 Look after yourself | |||
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"Be interesting to hear what Donald Trump says about the resignation. "Here it is: "Obama and Sleepy Joe Biden vandalised my bigly BEAUTIFUL reflecting pool which is now Iranian Flag Green. Everybody likes my BEAUTIFUL Ballroom which I paid for out of my own pocket and look at my GLORIOUS AIR FORCE ONE which has GOLD WINGS, Starmer, who? Zzzzz." | |||
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"The question is who do the billionaires who control the mainstream media want in. Who ever is not looking after their interests will get news story after news story even including many things that are not happening, like they did with rachel reeves and pensions which cost people who withdrew from their pensions money. They will do this repeatly to form an oppion about the party until the public demand their replacement. And if the replacement doesnt look after them then rinse and repeat. I bet if there were tax cuts and breaks for the wealthy you wouldnt have heard half the stories about labour. " You're absolutely spot on with this. The only question I'd like answering is, Why will none of the people being interviewed actually say this. | |||
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"Its all smoke and mirrors. Now Burnham won the locals, starmer will step down, Burnham will step in. People will see this as a win because starmer has gone, but its still the same regime, just fronted by a new face. Everything else will remain the same. Sure a few tweaks will be made here and there to start with so it appears they are trying to appease the masses, but what they give with one hand, they will take with the other in a slight of hand distraction method as its always been done by them and the conservatives over the last 30 odd years " Exactly this Two cheeks on the same arse, and the only new commers being given any support in the media are reform, the pay per policy lobby company. So who would do something differently, something that might cause wealth and power redistribution? | |||
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"Be interesting to hear what Donald Trump says about the resignation. "Rumour has it that he asked the Donald's permission before he asked HM The King's. Starmer was always a bit confused when it comes to priorities. | |||
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"Streeting is backing Burnham. So he will no doubt get a top cabinet post and possibly DPM. With him out of the running I wonder if anyone else will be bold enough to challenge Burnham." I'm wondering about Angela Reynor. Will she try, or hold off for a cabinet post. | |||
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"Streeting is backing Burnham. So he will no doubt get a top cabinet post and possibly DPM. With him out of the running I wonder if anyone else will be bold enough to challenge Burnham." Dan Jarvis is your man to challenge Burnham. | |||
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"It was Reeves who started it with the winter fuel cut. " Agreed by Starmer | |||
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"If Andy Burnham is the answer...... What the hell is the question?" Who is the next labour leader to f**k it up…. | |||
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"It was Reeves who started it with the winter fuel cut. Agreed by Starmer " Voted through by parliamentary MPs voted in by the public | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pension" Obviously you are not a pensioner. | |||
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"It was Reeves who started it with the winter fuel cut. Agreed by Starmer Voted through by parliamentary MPs voted in by the public " Agreed by the then PM Starmer it’s not hard to understand | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pen sion" How long have you been paying into the system? | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pension" Obviously you are not a pensioner. | |||
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"Streeting is backing Burnham. So he will no doubt get a top cabinet post and possibly DPM. With him out of the running I wonder if anyone else will be bold enough to challenge Burnham.Dan Jarvis is your man to challenge Burnham." If only! An ex-Para is just what we need. | |||
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"Should have shouted back "Well nobody from the tory party"" Subject to train journeys from Aberdeen a new Tory MP will be sworn in this week | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pension" Why not bring back the poor law and the workhouse. | |||
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"Good luck to Burnham as regards the dinghy dwellers. All the parties have tried and failed to stop them and the reason is the French. Until France decides to crack down on the dinghy gangs the n every uk government will fail to stop the dinghys. Why should the French stop them as once in the dinghy its goodbye France hello England." Just stick them on a ferry over to NI. All of them . I've a feeling that many of them will be catching a bus to Southern Ireland once they encounter the locals up close. | |||
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"Wow! Looks like they are making a comeback. Bigger joke than reform." The joke is Miliband lost any chance of the Aberdeen seat for labour ,after he send thousands of people in the oil and gas sector to the dole office, no steady transition of the work force to renewable No financial accountability for those now that can’t sell their properties to move for work . Thatcher and the tories did the coal workers Miliband has done the oil industry | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pension" Any benefits handed out should always be means tested, a one size fits all policy to spending the publics money is obviously wrong, However, the state pension when introduced was designed to be paid for by peoples national insurance contributions, the clues in the title. You are only meant to receive the full state pension if you have paid in a minimum of 35 years full national insurance contributions. Now I have no issue going forward if they want to scrap the current NI system for a private pension fund with mandatory contributions in line with your NI contribution. Say start it. for anyone aged 18 this year for example. But you cannot simply now stop paying the state pension to the millions who have already paid in through their existing NI contributions. Simply put would be daylight robbery. With predictions of a riot not far behind it. | |||
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"Good luck to Burnham as regards the dinghy dwellers. All the parties have tried and failed to stop them and the reason is the French. Until France decides to crack down on the dinghy gangs the n every uk government will fail to stop the dinghys. Why should the French stop them as once in the dinghy its goodbye France hello England. Just stick them on a ferry over to NI. All of them . I've a feeling that many of them will be catching a bus to Southern Ireland once they encounter the locals up close." Do you mean they'll be afraid of Sir Jeffrey Donaldson he's been locked up today for 18 sex crimes against children. | |||
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"Wow! Looks like they are making a comeback. Bigger joke than reform. The joke is Miliband lost any chance of the Aberdeen seat for labour ,after he send thousands of people in the oil and gas sector to the dole office, no steady transition of the work force to renewable No financial accountability for those now that can’t sell their properties to move for work . Thatcher and the tories did the coal workers Miliband has done the oil industry " How about this for a sensible suggestion, instead of increasing the oil and gas we take out of the waters around the UK, we get our gas from a politically stable country. like er Russia, and our oil from another politically stable region called the middle east!! Just ignore the fact. they been chucking rocks at one another for thousands of years. At least we can say we are meeting our self imposed climate targets. FFS you couldn't make it up could you | |||
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"Good luck to Burnham as regards the dinghy dwellers. All the parties have tried and failed to stop them and the reason is the French. Until France decides to crack down on the dinghy gangs the n every uk government will fail to stop the dinghys. Why should the French stop them as once in the dinghy its goodbye France hello England." Yeh yeh blame the French. Are you not aware its ultimately the duty of a national government to control its own borders? Its not the job of a foreign government to control UK borders ..its solely the job of the UK government and nobody else. And France isnt North Korea .. if people want to jump in a dinghy and leave they are free to do so. Blaming the French is so so tedious. And wasnt your Brexit vote all about taking back control of your borders,not relying on the French to do that work for you. The French are completely blameless ... your British arrogance is at play. | |||
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"Wow! Looks like they are making a comeback. Bigger joke than reform. The joke is Miliband lost any chance of the Aberdeen seat for labour ,after he send thousands of people in the oil and gas sector to the dole office, no steady transition of the work force to renewable No financial accountability for those now that can’t sell their properties to move for work . Thatcher and the tories did the coal workers Miliband has done the oil industry How about this for a sensible suggestion, instead of increasing the oil and gas we take out of the waters around the UK, we get our gas from a politically stable country. like er Russia, and our oil from another politically stable region called the middle east!! Just ignore the fact. they been chucking rocks at one another for thousands of years. At least we can say we are meeting our self imposed climate targets. FFS you couldn't make it up could you" We have MAGA by closing our refineries at Lindsey Lincolnshire thank god they can now bring the tankers straight across the Atlantic to fill the gap, but leaving a carbon foot print of the magnitude of Vesuvius We would have been buggered if they needed to use the straits  | |||
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"They asked Larry the Cat to stand in as P.M..he replied ..." Me-How? "Well Larry would have been so much better at the time than the unintelligent privileged public schoolboy buffoon and proven serial liar Pfeffel Johnson (even got away with lying about his real name). Voting for a cat would have been preferable. | |||
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"They asked Larry the Cat to stand in as P.M..he replied ..." Me-How?
Well Larry would have been so much better at the time than the unintelligent privileged public schoolboy buffoon and proven serial liar Pfeffel Johnson (even got away with lying about his real name). Voting for a cat would have been preferable."i have admired Larry ever since Johnson tried to set up a photo with him. He had Larry on his desk, and tried to get him to look at him. Larry did exactly the right thing. He turned round, raised his tail, and showed Johnson his arse | |||
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"Whoever takes over i beg they cut winter fuel, triple lock and means test the state pension Why not bring back the poor law and the workhouse. " No doubt that is something Herr Fuhrage and his Reformees would introduce. | |||
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