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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! " sexual preference, skin colour, even hair colour, ageism, hight. physical appearance ie wight, etc etc. It will never change sadly | |||
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"If you're different, you'll get hassled by someone you're different from. You can suppress it, perhaps, but I don't think that will ever go away." Fair point — people do notice difference, and some will always react badly. I just think the amount of hassle someone gets isn’t fixed. It’s dropped a lot in my lifetime already, and I’m hopeful it’ll keep dropping. | |||
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"This country is starting to worry me. To be honest, I thought we were going in the right direction, but now I think we're going backwards starting to feel like the 1970s." Having lived through the 70s, I can say we’ve moved on light years on the homophobia issue. With the current political scene it does feel like we’re regressing a bit, but hopefully not back to those hopeless 70s days when so much of the jobs market and British industry was destroyed. Thankfully, society itself has become much more accepting of minority groups. | |||
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"This country is starting to worry me. To be honest, I thought we were going in the right direction, but now I think we're going backwards starting to feel like the 1970s. Having lived through the 70s, I can say we’ve moved on light years on the homophobia issue. With the current political scene it does feel like we’re regressing a bit, but hopefully not back to those hopeless 70s days when so much of the jobs market and British industry was destroyed. Thankfully, society itself has become much more accepting of minority groups. " I'm just worried about the rise of a certain political party. Places where they've been voted in. There's a lot of minority groups there as well. I think that sort of Politics should stay back in the 1970s. | |||
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"If you're different, you'll get hassled by someone you're different from. You can suppress it, perhaps, but I don't think that will ever go away." Says someone who not so long ago was banging on about "alien" cultures in a post .. re immigrants. "Alien"to you ... just varied cultures to most. Sounds like they are being "hassled" | |||
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"This country is starting to worry me. To be honest, I thought we were going in the right direction, but now I think we're going backwards starting to feel like the 1970s. Having lived through the 70s, I can say we’ve moved on light years on the homophobia issue. With the current political scene it does feel like we’re regressing a bit, but hopefully not back to those hopeless 70s days when so much of the jobs market and British industry was destroyed. Thankfully, society itself has become much more accepting of minority groups. I'm just worried about the rise of a certain political party. Places where they've been voted in. There's a lot of minority groups there as well. I think that sort of Politics should stay back in the 1970s. " Well many of those in minority groups appear to be the biggest fans of that Party I think you are referring to. So save your sympathy. | |||
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"Small minded people. Called on a cruising ground last Friday teatime. There was a gang of teenage lads wondering around. I didn't hang around. Felt really uncomfortable easy." How terribly oppressed you are, that other people were in a public area. | |||
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"This country is starting to worry me. To be honest, I thought we were going in the right direction, but now I think we're going backwards starting to feel like the 1970s. Having lived through the 70s, I can say we’ve moved on light years on the homophobia issue. With the current political scene it does feel like we’re regressing a bit, but hopefully not back to those hopeless 70s days when so much of the jobs market and British industry was destroyed. Thankfully, society itself has become much more accepting of minority groups. I'm just worried about the rise of a certain political party. Places where they've been voted in. There's a lot of minority groups there as well. I think that sort of Politics should stay back in the 1970s. " I can understand your concern. But the UK political scene in the 1970s was actually the total opposite of the type you’re talking about, yet blatant homophobia was absolutely rife then. It was generally and widely accepted, and even often portrayed in TV programmes. So the politics changed, but the social attitudes took longer to shift. | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. " Spot on. 👌 | |||
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"If you're different, you'll get hassled by someone you're different from. You can suppress it, perhaps, but I don't think that will ever go away." ..this is spot on if yu walk your own path the sheep will always ridicule | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! " It will always remain, and Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Triskaidekaphobia, Hydrophobia, Coulrophobia and Xenophobia. You cannot outlaw a fear, sadly... | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! It will always remain, and Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Triskaidekaphobia, Hydrophobia, Coulrophobia and Xenophobia. You cannot outlaw a fear, sadly..." And paraskavedekatriaphobia....don't forget. | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! It will always remain, and Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Triskaidekaphobia, Hydrophobia, Coulrophobia and Xenophobia. You cannot outlaw a fear, sadly..." I really think the core issue is discrimination against LGBTQ+ people. It’s driven by hatred and contempt more so than phobic fear, even though we call it homophobia. It’s essentially bigotry toward a large minority sector of society. | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. " Maybe its because the national flag has been hijacked by saddos who get up in the middle of the night to climb lamposts and fly cheap Chinese made flags .. going on well before the World Cup .. nothing to do with the World Cup and everything to do with racist low achievers most probably with criminal records as was the case with the Southampton rioters. An irrational illness .. a dislike of people with a different skin colour. | |||
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"If you're different, you'll get hassled by someone you're different from. You can suppress it, perhaps, but I don't think that will ever go away. Says someone who not so long ago was banging on about "alien" cultures in a post .. re immigrants. "Alien"to you ... just varied cultures to most. Sounds like they are being "hassled"" I think you've just inadvertently agreed with me. Feel free to emphasise and disparage the difference you perceive between you and me, never forgetting that you have sole rights to the moral high ground. (sarcasm emoji) | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! It will always remain, and Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Triskaidekaphobia, Hydrophobia, Coulrophobia and Xenophobia. You cannot outlaw a fear, sadly... I really think the core issue is discrimination against LGBTQ+ people. It’s driven by hatred and contempt more so than phobic fear, even though we call it homophobia. It’s essentially bigotry toward a large minority sector of society." And so much bigotry coming from tbe LGBTQ+ people against other minorities. | |||
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"Small minded people. Called on a cruising ground last Friday teatime. There was a gang of teenage lads wondering around. I didn't hang around. Felt really uncomfortable easy." Ooh! Ooh! Maybe they wanted to gang fuck you.. | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. Maybe its because the national flag has been hijacked by saddos who get up in the middle of the night to climb lamposts and fly cheap Chinese made flags .. going on well before the World Cup .. nothing to do with the World Cup and everything to do with racist low achievers most probably with criminal records as was the case with the Southampton rioters. An irrational illness .. a dislike of people with a different skin colour." Crikey, what a ridiculous sweeping statement. | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! It will always remain, and Arachnophobia, Claustrophobia, Triskaidekaphobia, Hydrophobia, Coulrophobia and Xenophobia. You cannot outlaw a fear, sadly... I really think the core issue is discrimination against LGBTQ+ people. It’s driven by hatred and contempt more so than phobic fear, even though we call it homophobia. It’s essentially bigotry toward a large minority sector of society. And so much bigotry coming from tbe LGBTQ+ people against other minorities." Bigotry can come from any group, and no community is a monolith. If there are specific examples, they should be called out individually. Painting whole groups with one brush tends to shut down conversation rather than fix the problem. | |||
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"Let haters hate lol I’m a gay man and I don’t care what others think of that so others attitude make no difference to me " Fair point, and it's great to hear that approach works for you. The issue for many is that it doesn't always stop at attitudes - it can escalate to threats and violence. | |||
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"Let haters hate lol I’m a gay man and I don’t care what others think of that so others attitude make no difference to me "  | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. Maybe its because the national flag has been hijacked by saddos who get up in the middle of the night to climb lamposts and fly cheap Chinese made flags .. going on well before the World Cup .. nothing to do with the World Cup and everything to do with racist low achievers most probably with criminal records as was the case with the Southampton rioters. An irrational illness .. a dislike of people with a different skin colour." As our country is Great Britain its not the National flag but the English Cross of St George that has been hijacked. I think its very ironic given that St George was born in Turkey around 2AD | |||
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"If you vote Reform you are voting for homophobia. How spectacularly thick is that ?" They they are a far right political party. There was another party like that once, I heard they did really bad things in Germany? | |||
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"If you vote Reform you are voting for homophobia. How spectacularly thick is that ? They they are a far right political party. There was another party like that once, I heard they did really bad things in Germany?" And let's not forget that a young Farage once told a fellow pupil that "Hitler was right". | |||
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"If you vote Reform you are voting for homophobia. How spectacularly thick is that ? They they are a far right political party. There was another party like that once, I heard they did really bad things in Germany? And let's not forget that a young Farage once told a fellow pupil that "Hitler was right"." | |||
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"You should read the article on the 2 guy's who run Keighley Curgors Rugby league club near Bradford who have step down from running the club due to homophobia.BBC sport web site rugby league news " That is really sad. Rugby has been one of the most accepting sports for gay people especially considering it is a very physical close contact sport. I never came 'out' whilst I was playing but there were rumours and I got some ribbing and 'friendly comments' which I laughed off | |||
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"As long as generations remain who knew a time when homosexuality was seen as both unacceptable and illegal, homophobia will persist. Thankfully, society has become much more accepting and understanding, and with time its incidence will continue to decline. Although I suspect a small amount will always exist — some people are, sadly, just bigoted." I’d love to be able to agree but Nigel Farage has said Same Sex Marriage is wrong and that he will scrap the equality act. I sincerely hope reform never get into government. You only have to look across the pond to see what the sway the Christian Nationalists have in the Republican Party and the direction of travel there regarding equality and sexuality. | |||
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"If you vote Reform you are voting for homophobia. How spectacularly thick is that ? They they are a far right political party. There was another party like that once, I heard they did really bad things in Germany? And let's not forget that a young Farage once told a fellow pupil that "Hitler was right"." Godwin's Law proven again 😉. | |||
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"If you vote Reform you are voting for homophobia. How spectacularly thick is that ? They they are a far right political party. There was another party like that once, I heard they did really bad things in Germany? And let's not forget that a young Farage once told a fellow pupil that "Hitler was right"." and let's not forget what the bible says. | |||
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"Search Melbas speech Tip Toe.Channel4 "I used to walk into a room and just go 'ta-da'. Now I tip-toe, just in case." Sums up 2026 quite well Exactly " | |||
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"As long as there is religion, in its many guises, names, forms and pretenses, there will be some level of homophobia. The Bible belts of America to Ghana and Indonesia to Arabian countries, there will be homophobia. The ignorant and ill-educated will have a distorted or blinkered view of "the perfect" society. Cultural values, religion and zealots will always be with us. Although we're fortunate to live in a liberal country that allows saunas, adult cinemas, legal gay porn etc etc, there will forever be the voices of "reason"... Was it ever thus." Religion has nothing to do with the rise in homophobia and racism in this country, or other Western countries. It is the far right, who are quite often aethist, bigotted and racist. Who are afraid of anything that challenges their ideology. As an educated and well informed Catholic, I am well of the Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality; I am also well informed on it's teachings about inclusivity, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and acceptance. | |||
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"Search Melbas speech Tip Toe.Channel4 "I used to walk into a room and just go 'ta-da'. Now I tip-toe, just in case." Sums up 2026 quite well " Sorry to have to say this but the likes of Melba stir up homophobia. Most of us lead normal lives and blend in. We don't wear our sexuality on our sleeves. We are just ordinary blokes who like, fancy and have sex with other blokes. We don't make a song and dance about it or wear weird clothes and make-up. | |||
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"Search Melbas speech Tip Toe.Channel4 "I used to walk into a room and just go 'ta-da'. Now I tip-toe, just in case." Sums up 2026 quite well Sorry to have to say this but the likes of Melba stir up homophobia. Most of us lead normal lives and blend in. We don't wear our sexuality on our sleeves. We are just ordinary blokes who like, fancy and have sex with other blokes. We don't make a song and dance about it or wear weird clothes and make-up." I would argue that a lot of straight men definitely wear their sexuality on their sleeve. Shit tats, huge ridiculous beards, are all signs of emasculated men announcing their straightness. They make it their whole personality the same way some gay people do. I'm not the flounce, going to Pride type either, in fact i find over campness a bit annoying, but those people should have every right to be that way no matter what I think. | |||
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"As long as there is religion, in its many guises, names, forms and pretenses, there will be some level of homophobia. The Bible belts of America to Ghana and Indonesia to Arabian countries, there will be homophobia. The ignorant and ill-educated will have a distorted or blinkered view of "the perfect" society. Cultural values, religion and zealots will always be with us. Although we're fortunate to live in a liberal country that allows saunas, adult cinemas, legal gay porn etc etc, there will forever be the voices of "reason"... Was it ever thus. Religion has nothing to do with the rise in homophobia and racism in this country, or other Western countries. It is the far right, who are quite often aethist, bigotted and racist. Who are afraid of anything that challenges their ideology. As an educated and well informed Catholic, I am well of the Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality; I am also well informed on it's teachings about inclusivity, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and acceptance. " So most left wing support palistine,muselims etc ,they are more anti gay than anyone else ,but its the right. Im to the right ,im not anti gay . | |||
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" Sorry to have to say this but the likes of Melba stir up homophobia. Most of us lead normal lives and blend in. We don't wear our sexuality on our sleeves. We are just ordinary blokes who like, fancy and have sex with other blokes. We don't make a song and dance about it or wear weird clothes and make-up. **************************************** I would argue that a lot of straight men definitely wear their sexuality on their sleeve. Shit tats, huge ridiculous beards, are all signs of emasculated men announcing their straightness. They make it their whole personality the same way some gay people do. I'm not the flounce, going to Pride type either, in fact i find over campness a bit annoying, but those people should have every right to be that way no matter what I think. " Interesting argument. I regard myself as being 100% gay as I only fancy and have sex with men. I have several tattoos and all artistic. Was going to have more because I like tattoos but left it a bit late now. I don't have a beard. Grown one a couple of times but found it uncomfortable. Hardly done any of these things in an attempt to say 'look at me. I'm straight'. Yes of course people have the right to be who they are and to express themselves in whatever way they want to. Sadly an awful lot of straight people still assume that if you are gay you must act in a camp manner and readily embrace all the stereotypical 'gay' things. | |||
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"Unfortunately the national flag was hijacked and used as a symbol or racism and aggression for a duration but justified under the guise of patriotism. The true meaning for many people's actions was not very pleasant though. Very sad to see in the modern day. "Not in Scotland - no shame in flying ours, its in house windows, hanging from balconies, above public buildings, on trains and the clothes people wear. Not in any way connected with anything right wing, just the sign of a happy and thriving society north of the border where things are well run and prosperous and maybe because population is mainly British. | |||
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"Just the odd attempted beheading in the functional and happy Northlands, while the politicians embezzle public funds..." Yes, lots of public funds washing around, contacts and backhanders speed decisions up I admit, lots of people employed by the state on final salary pensions, council houses being built etc. | |||
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"It just seems like some people just need to hate they make contact with other haters online and then think everyone holds the same views. " Yep 👍 | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! " personally I don’t think people are against sexual preferences I think it could be the multiple variations and flag waving | |||
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"Yeah it's 💯 going backwards. I still couldn't believe one of the guys stepped down from the local pride group because he said he felt there was no need for pride anymore. He felt lgbtq had equal footling with the straights!! Made me angry. " We do have equal footing. However, it’s not possible to legislate against stupid prejudiced people who want to take out their prejudice on others. Education is the most effective antidote to the disease. | |||
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"It's got far, far worse since the Supreme Court & Labour decided to turn on & bully Trans people. Like Brexit, only mire directly, it's allowed bigots to act uninhibitedly. Niether I nor my boyfriend conform to the Daily Star's or the SCUM's image of a mincing queen from 1973, so I don't get much of it but.. online it's become much more blatant (see Wilhelm Reich's Emotional Plague). And I've noticed it's mostly from cis women " What a load of tosh. The SC simply clarified the existing law and then all those who had been swallowed Stonewall’s lies then thought that their rights had been taken away. Women are more likely to pushback as it’s their rights that are being ignored. “If you prick us, do we not bleed?” | |||
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"I don’t understand what was wrong with LGBT. I think this is a lot of straight people’s problem, too. Why so many designations and explanations of what you perceive your orientation, sexuality, gender and interests to be? LGBT would actually cover all of us, right? Non-binary people helped blow everything out of the water. I don’t know anyone that has an issue with gay people but, nobody seems to like this “They/Them” thing that is trying to be pushed onto everyone. Of course, this then comes under the LGBTQ+ banner and gives everyone else a bad rap. Same thing with Trans, there’s nothing wrong with being trans, a lot of people like it, me included. What people don’t like is the ideology that these people can actually switch genders and walk into women’s safe spaces just because they say they should be able to. Not a fan. This also get associated with everything else under the LGBTQ+ banner and harms everyone. Simply, having a blanket cover over everyone other than those that are completely straight, I think, has been damaging to those that want to blend in and get on with their own life.. it’s just brought so much attention to all of us." I concur | |||
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"I don’t understand what was wrong with LGBT. I think this is a lot of straight people’s problem, too. Why so many designations and explanations of what you perceive your orientation, sexuality, gender and interests to be? LGBT would actually cover all of us, right? Non-binary people helped blow everything out of the water. I don’t know anyone that has an issue with gay people but, nobody seems to like this “They/Them” thing that is trying to be pushed onto everyone. Of course, this then comes under the LGBTQ+ banner and gives everyone else a bad rap. Same thing with Trans, there’s nothing wrong with being trans, a lot of people like it, me included. What people don’t like is the ideology that these people can actually switch genders and walk into women’s safe spaces just because they say they should be able to. Not a fan. This also get associated with everything else under the LGBTQ+ banner and harms everyone. Simply, having a blanket cover over everyone other than those that are completely straight, I think, has been damaging to those that want to blend in and get on with their own life.. it’s just brought so much attention to all of us." We live in a heteronormative society where being anything other than a straight man and woman following strict standards of behaviour is seen as lesser, different, difficult or any other description because they’re not conforming to the societal norm. The addition of letters so it’s now LGBTQIA+ is a reflection of people actually being able to be themselves and realise they aren’t alone. Even if it was a 75 letter acronym if that meant that just one person didn’t feel that they were alone or that they shouldn’t be here then I’m all for it. It’s progress at a time where we’re all at risk of that moving backwards very quickly. All it takes is a bit of education and understanding to see and acknowledge why it’s needed. If you have a problem with someone being non-binary, effeminate, being out and proud, changing their body because they’re were born in the wrong one, being asexual or anything else. That’s not on them, that’s firmly on you and your inability to accept that people are different and are living their authentic lives openly. It may be your upbringing, religious beliefs, your own fear or just that you are a humongous arsehole who doesn’t give a shit about anyone else. | |||
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" We live in a heteronormative society where being anything other than a straight man and woman following strict standards of behaviour is seen as lesser, different, difficult or any other description because they’re not conforming to the societal norm. The addition of letters so it’s now LGBTQIA+ is a reflection of people actually being able to be themselves and realise they aren’t alone. Even if it was a 75 letter acronym if that meant that just one person didn’t feel that they were alone or that they shouldn’t be here then I’m all for it. It’s progress at a time where we’re all at risk of that moving backwards very quickly. All it takes is a bit of education and understanding to see and acknowledge why it’s needed. If you have a problem with someone being non-binary, effeminate, being out and proud, changing their body because they’re were born in the wrong one, being asexual or anything else. That’s not on them, that’s firmly on you and your inability to accept that people are different and are living their authentic lives openly. It may be your upbringing, religious beliefs, your own fear or just that you are a humongous arsehole who doesn’t give a shit about anyone else. " Yes we do live in a heteronormative society. Why do we? Well like it or not at least 90% of people are heterosexual. You may fantasise that the hunky heating engineer, who is coming to service your boiler is 'up for it, but the chances are, if you strike up a conversation over coffee, he will mention his wife and the kids. Also if you tell him you live alone he will assume you are divorced or widowed. It's the way of the world. I don't have a problem with genuine trans providing they get on with their lives rather than make a song and dance about it. They are what they are. Even non-binary although I think it is the latest 'look at me' fad, rather like punk, goth and emo used to be, and they'll probably deny it in 20 or 30 years time. My grouch is why shove us all under this ever expanding umbrella [more like a marquee now] when really we don't have anything much in common. Also some of the letters, in the this alphabet soup, that come after the original LGB, seem to have taken over and left we ordinary gays feeling marginalised and disenchanted | |||
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"I don’t understand what was wrong with LGBT. I think this is a lot of straight people’s problem, too. Why so many designations and explanations of what you perceive your orientation, sexuality, gender and interests to be? LGBT would actually cover all of us, right? Non-binary people helped blow everything out of the water. I don’t know anyone that has an issue with gay people but, nobody seems to like this “They/Them” thing that is trying to be pushed onto everyone. Of course, this then comes under the LGBTQ+ banner and gives everyone else a bad rap. Same thing with Trans, there’s nothing wrong with being trans, a lot of people like it, me included. What people don’t like is the ideology that these people can actually switch genders and walk into women’s safe spaces just because they say they should be able to. Not a fan. This also get associated with everything else under the LGBTQ+ banner and harms everyone. Simply, having a blanket cover over everyone other than those that are completely straight, I think, has been damaging to those that want to blend in and get on with their own life.. it’s just brought so much attention to all of us. We live in a heteronormative society where being anything other than a straight man and woman following strict standards of behaviour is seen as lesser, different, difficult or any other description because they’re not conforming to the societal norm. The addition of letters so it’s now LGBTQIA+ is a reflection of people actually being able to be themselves and realise they aren’t alone. Even if it was a 75 letter acronym if that meant that just one person didn’t feel that they were alone or that they shouldn’t be here then I’m all for it. It’s progress at a time where we’re all at risk of that moving backwards very quickly. All it takes is a bit of education and understanding to see and acknowledge why it’s needed. If you have a problem with someone being non-binary, effeminate, being out and proud, changing their body because they’re were born in the wrong one, being asexual or anything else. That’s not on them, that’s firmly on you and your inability to accept that people are different and are living their authentic lives openly. It may be your upbringing, religious beliefs, your own fear or just that you are a humongous arsehole who doesn’t give a shit about anyone else. " Directing your last comments at me just goes to show doesn’t it, you’re just as bad as the others that you’re talking about. You don’t even understand, plenty of straight people are polar opposites, they don’t have different letters to denote what type of straight person they are, and they definitely don’t all feel like they can be themselves or that they were born in the right body, the right place or at the right time and feel alone. I’ve had a few mates kill themselves over things not relating to sexuality. Can’t you see that the very labels used to identify are the ones used to divide and single out individuals? That’s not progress, it’s bringing it on top for those of us under the rainbow banner that are happy living as we are. | |||
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" We still have so much to do as a society sadly. Your sexual preference as long as it is legal shouldn't matter just the same as your skin colour. Fucking Bigots and total knobhead narrow minded people!!! 2026 not 1926!!! sexual preference, skin colour, even hair colour, ageism, hight. physical appearance ie wight, etc etc. It will never change sadly " Yes, no matter how enlightened we say we are, we all have the capacity dont we! If your honest with yourself that is. | |||
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"Directing your last comments at me just goes to show doesn’t it, you’re just as bad as the others that you’re talking about. You don’t even understand, plenty of straight people are polar opposites, they don’t have different letters to denote what type of straight person they are, and they definitely don’t all feel like they can be themselves or that they were born in the right body, the right place or at the right time and feel alone. I’ve had a few mates kill themselves over things not relating to sexuality. Can’t you see that the very labels used to identify are the ones used to divide and single out individuals? That’s not progress, it’s bringing it on top for those of us under the rainbow banner that are happy living as we are. " I understand perfectly and if you've chosen to identify with one of those things I put that says way more about you. There is a huge issue with straight men killing themselves that needs much more support and talking openly. This thread was describing homophobia, you've hijacked it to prove a point no-one is disagreeing on. Two things can be true at the same time. Plus if society was more open maybe they would feel more able to talk about things. As you say though that's not over their sexuality. They aren't having to hide that, to behave a certain way to fit in, to mask just to be acceptable because someone at some point in the past decided it was wrong, our immoral or they hated that part of themselves so decided to stigmatise it. In an ideal world there would be no need for labels. Everyone could be exactly who they are and how they are supposed to be. We are a very very long way away from that unfortunately. I would love for everyone to have equity, not just equality. But when it's illegal for me to be who I am in 65 countries still that's never going to happen. | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. " Very true | |||
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"We’ve always lived in a society where you are ridiculed by a group be it sexual, political, racial, class status or whatever. You can’t even fly your country’s national flag during the World Cup without being labelled…..nothing new here. Very true " Very untrue for the majority of people who fly the flag to support England in the football. But for those who creep out under cover of darkness to climb up lamposts (like rats up a drainpipe) to fly the national flag should definitely be labelled. | |||
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"Fuck yes like racism it will never ever go away, but things are getting better than the olden days" And Ann Widdecombe did zero to eradicate homophobia. | |||
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"Directing your last comments at me just goes to show doesn’t it, you’re just as bad as the others that you’re talking about. You don’t even understand, plenty of straight people are polar opposites, they don’t have different letters to denote what type of straight person they are, and they definitely don’t all feel like they can be themselves or that they were born in the right body, the right place or at the right time and feel alone. I’ve had a few mates kill themselves over things not relating to sexuality. Can’t you see that the very labels used to identify are the ones used to divide and single out individuals? That’s not progress, it’s bringing it on top for those of us under the rainbow banner that are happy living as we are. I understand perfectly and if you've chosen to identify with one of those things I put that says way more about you. There is a huge issue with straight men killing themselves that needs much more support and talking openly. This thread was describing homophobia, you've hijacked it to prove a point no-one is disagreeing on. Two things can be true at the same time. Plus if society was more open maybe they would feel more able to talk about things. As you say though that's not over their sexuality. They aren't having to hide that, to behave a certain way to fit in, to mask just to be acceptable because someone at some point in the past decided it was wrong, our immoral or they hated that part of themselves so decided to stigmatise it. In an ideal world there would be no need for labels. Everyone could be exactly who they are and how they are supposed to be. We are a very very long way away from that unfortunately. I would love for everyone to have equity, not just equality. But when it's illegal for me to be who I am in 65 countries still that's never going to happen. " I don’t identify with any of those things you put, you directed them at me saying “you you you”. I also didn’t hijack anything, I’m simply voicing why I believe there might appear to be more homophobia at the moment. You can disagree with what I’m saying all you like, but there’s substance to my theory. If we’re both in the same acronym club, why are you attacking me or trying to put me down for having an opinion on it, isn’t that the very thing you profess to be campaigning against? | |||
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"Directing your last comments at me just goes to show doesn’t it, you’re just as bad as the others that you’re talking about. You don’t even understand, plenty of straight people are polar opposites, they don’t have different letters to denote what type of straight person they are, and they definitely don’t all feel like they can be themselves or that they were born in the right body, the right place or at the right time and feel alone. I’ve had a few mates kill themselves over things not relating to sexuality. Can’t you see that the very labels used to identify are the ones used to divide and single out individuals? That’s not progress, it’s bringing it on top for those of us under the rainbow banner that are happy living as we are. I understand perfectly and if you've chosen to identify with one of those things I put that says way more about you. There is a huge issue with straight men killing themselves that needs much more support and talking openly. This thread was describing homophobia, you've hijacked it to prove a point no-one is disagreeing on. Two things can be true at the same time. Plus if society was more open maybe they would feel more able to talk about things. As you say though that's not over their sexuality. They aren't having to hide that, to behave a certain way to fit in, to mask just to be acceptable because someone at some point in the past decided it was wrong, our immoral or they hated that part of themselves so decided to stigmatise it. In an ideal world there would be no need for labels. Everyone could be exactly who they are and how they are supposed to be. We are a very very long way away from that unfortunately. I would love for everyone to have equity, not just equality. But when it's illegal for me to be who I am in 65 countries still that's never going to happen. I don’t identify with any of those things you put, you directed them at me saying “you you you”. I also didn’t hijack anything, I’m simply voicing why I believe there might appear to be more homophobia at the moment. You can disagree with what I’m saying all you like, but there’s substance to my theory. If we’re both in the same acronym club, why are you attacking me or trying to put me down for having an opinion on it, isn’t that the very thing you profess to be campaigning against?" 1. Not attacking you. The you’s in my first response were for my own reading. Ironically you’ve chosen to take offence to those 2. You were questioning and attacking non binary and other people. Mine was just a response to that 3. You didn’t present it as a theory just your opinion which you are entitled to have as am I to mine 4. It’s too hot to carry on with back and forth over this. Enjoy your weekend | |||
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