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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them." Great opinion 👍 | |||
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"Not our Peters obvs.. Uncle Knobhead would make a good Pierrepoint...." our Uncle knobhead would make a good prison officer similar to Mr McKay (porridge) . | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life?" Not much. Out of about 60,000 prisoners, only 70 have a whole life order. | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life?" About £100,000 a year! That is one reason we should put some evil bastards down! | |||
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"I'd rather have a shit hole prison on one of the smaller islands off mainland UK. Oncw your gone you don't come back. I'm fact, move all the prisons off the mainland." Not a bad idea at all. Like Alcatraz…….. 2 to a cell, 23 hours a day inside, 1 hour outside exercise - if the weather is shit, tough! No telly, radio, 3 basic meals, make them suffer. If they kill each other, never mind. Saves the tax payer!😀 | |||
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"There's still quiet a high number of wrongully imprisonment so even though it shoukd come back. The idea of having someone innocent going through the death pentaly is a crazy motion" If any doubt you don’t execute however, When you’re filmed by countless people trying to behead a British soldier in the street then there is no doubt at all. Hang em high | |||
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"There's still quiet a high number of wrongully imprisonment so even though it shoukd come back. The idea of having someone innocent going through the death pentaly is a crazy motion If any doubt you don’t execute however, When you’re filmed by countless people trying to behead a British soldier in the street then there is no doubt at all. Hang em high " Oh yes 👍 | |||
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"Absolutely!! Child killers & pedos. Why should we pay for them to Live in prison, fed , clothed etc. If there is absolutely no doubt. I.e. caught red handed Then Public hanging!" Prison is the punishment, you deprive them of their freedom, they will be in a high state of anxiety trying to keep alive in prison so that’s the punishment. Death is an easy way out. As a society one we delve into the depth of killing people for our own petty vengeance, then we become no different than the offender. The dangers are that miscarriages of justice do happen, there are ‘ absolutely no doubt ‘ circumstances in a court of law… Recently a man served 10 years in prison for a sexual offense only to be found not guilty. He life is ruined, he was put in the SOR while the online pitch fork rattlers have already serve their justice, he will be unemployable, unable to travel or even in some circumstance not able to access medical care. When you can safely say that these miscarriages of justice no longer happen, then you can start to put an argument for the ultimate petty vengeance requirement. Until then, then absolutely not. | |||
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"Absolutely!! Child killers & pedos. Why should we pay for them to Live in prison, fed , clothed etc. If there is absolutely no doubt. I.e. caught red handed Then Public hanging!" Even the paedophiles who aren't sex offenders? Seems a little harsh. | |||
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"If we had the death penalty Lucy Letby would be dead. She is innocent. She was the sacrificial lamb for a bent management" Death penalty aside, don't be fooled by the barrage of falsities and red herrings being promulgated by her defence team. There is a ton more evidence against her but quite often this can be witheld if deemed prejudicial. The jury listened to ALL available evidence in the case, and found her guilty. | |||
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"Stefan Kiszko, does anyone remember him ? Served 15 years in prison for murdering schoolgirl Lesley Molseed. He was a young man from Rochdale with, what is now referred to as 'learning difficulties'. He was given a full pardon after 15 years being bars, why? Because that's when they happened to catch the real murderer of poor Leslie. Stefan, who wouldn't hurt a fly, was just an easy target for the bone idle West Yorkshire police who couldn't be arsed investigating Lesley's murder. That is the perfect example of why we shouldn't bring back the death penalty. Particularly with the state of the British police these days. Stefan was one of the lucky ones, James Hanratty and Timothy Evens weren't so lucky, they were both hanged, only later proven innocent, when it was too late." What are you talking about? Evans and Hanratty have never been proven innocent. | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life?" It would cost more to execute them then to keep them. | |||
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"Yes,and I'd gladly tie the knot and pull the lever." Then that says more about you, than a reasoned argument in favour of capital punishment. | |||
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"Yes,and I'd gladly tie the knot and pull the lever." I’d be standing right with you in case you needed a hand! | |||
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"Oh no not the hang them brigade. You make it too easy. Make them live in the main prison population where the population know there crime. Every moment will be torture and in the end they will take their own life saving the tax payers. " I’ve never understood the idea of one criminal being judge and jury over another. They’re all criminals and if they’re in the same prison/category then they are the same. Anyone that justifies a criminal assaulting or killing another criminal needs to take a goood look at themselves. | |||
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"Should we bring back the Death Penalty in the UK? What are your thoughts? " Only if they are 100% guilty ….. caught in the act or irrefutable evidence. If there’s any doubt then it cant the death penalty | |||
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"Stefan Kiszko, does anyone remember him ? Served 15 years in prison for murdering schoolgirl Lesley Molseed. He was a young man from Rochdale with, what is now referred to as 'learning difficulties'. He was given a full pardon after 15 years being bars, why? Because that's when they happened to catch the real murderer of poor Leslie. Stefan, who wouldn't hurt a fly, was just an easy target for the bone idle West Yorkshire police who couldn't be arsed investigating Lesley's murder. That is the perfect example of why we shouldn't bring back the death penalty. Particularly with the state of the British police these days. Stefan was one of the lucky ones, James Hanratty and Timothy Evens weren't so lucky, they were both hanged, only later proven innocent, when it was too late." Exactly my point! Before bringing death to someone, they need to be 1000% sure on the suspect before banging them up behind bars! Did Stefan ever get compensated for that 15 year stint? | |||
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"Every crime should be a capitol offence. Fly tipping? Gallows Shoplifting? Gallows Driving without a license? Gallows Your kid committed a crime? Gallows Our entire society is focussed around accomodating the bottom 2% or so who make life worse for everyone else. Remove the problem people, remove the problems." what about people who put pineapple on pizzas | |||
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"what about people who put pineapple on pizzas " They shall be worshipped as the gods amongst men that they are. | |||
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"How about playing Mrs Brown's Boys da Movie to them 24 hours a day?" Or watch a Celtic match on repeat 😁 | |||
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"The Death penalty can never be brought back, it was abolished. Only two offences were still optional when it was first abolished, Piracy and arson in her majestys dockyards. But they too were abolished a few years later. For it to ever be brought back, every singe sitting MP would have to vote for it before it was passed to the Lords, and they would then vote against it. Hence it will never be brought back." .. Public referendum? Or, what if a political party put it in a manifesto....( a public referendum or as a concept...) would it actually be a vote loser..or winner.. | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life? About £100,000 a year! That is one reason we should put some evil bastards down!" Kill people to save money? Nice.. | |||
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"The Death penalty can never be brought back, it was abolished. Only two offences were still optional when it was first abolished, Piracy and arson in her majestys dockyards. But they too were abolished a few years later. For it to ever be brought back, every singe sitting MP would have to vote for it before it was passed to the Lords, and they would then vote against it. Hence it will never be brought back... Public referendum? Or, what if a political party put it in a manifesto....( a public referendum or as a concept...) would it actually be a vote loser..or winner.." The last one turned out well…. | |||
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"No but life should mean life " Mind I agree with this If you kill another person intentionally then you should never ever see the light of day again | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life? About £100,000 a year! That is one reason we should put some evil bastards down! Kill people to save money? Nice.." Seemed to work for labour cutting the winter fuel payment  | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life? About £100,000 a year! That is one reason we should put some evil bastards down! Kill people to save money? Nice.. Seemed to work for labour cutting the winter fuel payment ". Looks like that's going to go down as Labours ( or at least Starmers government) poll tax ...fatal mistake.... | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life? About £100,000 a year! That is one reason we should put some evil bastards down! Kill people to save money? Nice.. Seemed to work for labour cutting the winter fuel payment "How many died? All innocent as well, counter argument anyone? | |||
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"A few that should have had their lives cut short after doing what they did; 1 or 2 may already have died, but that’s not the point. Ian Brady Myra Hindley Fred & Rose West Ian Huntley Gary Glitter Jimmy Saville Venables & Thompson (Jamie Bulger killers) Wayne Cuzzens Southport killer Nottingham killer That’s just from memory, without thinking too hard for more! " Glitter and Saville didn't kill anyone so execution - no. Cock and balls cut off? Definitely. Venables & Thompson - would you have executed them when they were 12? Or just kept them locked up until giving them a nice 18th birthday present? | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. " It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them. Great opinion 👍" Agreed, but bearing in mind that life sense has a cost to the taxpayer of 10s of thousands of pounds each year of imprisonment. Probably a cost worth paying to keep us all safe(r). | |||
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"Venables & Thompson - would you have executed them when they were 12? Or just kept them locked up until giving them a nice 18th birthday present? " Fabguys - come for the hookups, stay for the rousing calls to "checks notes" ...execute children. This site is fucked. | |||
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"This is from BBC news. Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in the UK, is being granted a conditional posthumous pardon - You can read it yourselves, but the words injustice is used. This is a timely reminder why capital punishment should never be reinstated." Absolutely. There really is no such thing as certainty | |||
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"A few that should have had their lives cut short after doing what they did; 1 or 2 may already have died, but that’s not the point. Ian Brady Myra Hindley Fred & Rose West Ian Huntley Gary Glitter Jimmy Saville Venables & Thompson (Jamie Bulger killers) Wayne Cuzzens Southport killer Nottingham killer That’s just from memory, without thinking too hard for more! " totally agree with all of them and you can add the world's most hated man to that list jamie.varley.utter rat he is | |||
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"This is from BBC news. Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in the UK, is being granted a conditional posthumous pardon - You can read it yourselves, but the words injustice is used. This is a timely reminder why capital punishment should never be reinstated." There's never been any doubt that Ellis was the killer though, she readily admitted it. The facts surrounding the case would indicate that she never mounted a defence of provocation and failed to fully engage with her team. She seemed to be resigned to the fact she would be executed, and in some respects almost welcomed it. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines." Why do we need courts when we've got yourself as judge jury and hangman. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. Why do we need courts when we've got yourself as judge jury and hangman. " Some of us know a little more about these cases, and the nuances that led to the convictions being overturned. There's no legal basis to say they didn't do it, their defence teams have never claimed as much either. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. Why do we need courts when we've got yourself as judge jury and hangman. Some of us know a little more about these cases, and the nuances that led to the convictions being overturned. There's no legal basis to say they didn't do it, their defence teams have never claimed as much either." There was never any evidence that they were anyway involved but clear evidence that they were tortured into making confessions and they had to wait far too long for justice. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. Why do we need courts when we've got yourself as judge jury and hangman. Some of us know a little more about these cases, and the nuances that led to the convictions being overturned. There's no legal basis to say they didn't do it, their defence teams have never claimed as much either. There was never any evidence that they were anyway involved but clear evidence that they were tortured into making confessions and they had to wait far too long for justice. " There's a lot more to it than that, evidence that could never be put in the public domain and for that reason, never used at court. The defence team know this of course, and it would have scuppered any appeal if it could've been used. Read up on Operation Kenova for a partial insight. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. Why do we need courts when we've got yourself as judge jury and hangman. Some of us know a little more about these cases, and the nuances that led to the convictions being overturned. There's no legal basis to say they didn't do it, their defence teams have never claimed as much either. There was never any evidence that they were anyway involved but clear evidence that they were tortured into making confessions and they had to wait far too long for justice. There's a lot more to it than that, evidence that could never be put in the public domain and for that reason, never used at court. The defence team know this of course, and it would have scuppered any appeal if it could've been used. Read up on Operation Kenova for a partial insight." Nothing to do with the miscarriage of justice. They were guilty of being Irish no evidence of anything else, the Balcome Street IRA gang admitted to the Guilford attack and the police never tried to find those who bombed Birmingham. | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines." They were proved to be innocent. | |||
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"The Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Act 1965 wasn't brought in lightly. It was introduced under Harold Wilson's Labour Government and went through an extensive parliamentary process. It also had a 5-year sunset clause, meaning that it would expire if it wasn't debated again within 5 years. It finally became permanent in 1969, with a mandatory life sentence for murder. The death penalty for other crimes like high treason and piracy with violence wasn't abolished until 1996. My personal view, as previously stated, is based on a straightforward principle. The authority over life ultimately belongs to nature itself. Therefore, the decision to end a human life should not be vested in the state, nor in any individual. It seems highly unlikely that the death penalty will ever be reintroduced in the UK, despite differing public opinion. The decision came after a lot of debate and this is why it still stands strong and is unlikely to ever be rescinded." Many people don't seem to realise the reason for abolition:That Judges lost confidence in capital punishment after so many miscarriages. | |||
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"The Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Act 1965 wasn't brought in lightly. It was introduced under Harold Wilson's Labour Government and went through an extensive parliamentary process. It also had a 5-year sunset clause, meaning that it would expire if it wasn't debated again within 5 years. It finally became permanent in 1969, with a mandatory life sentence for murder. The death penalty for other crimes like high treason and piracy with violence wasn't abolished until 1996. My personal view, as previously stated, is based on a straightforward principle. The authority over life ultimately belongs to nature itself. Therefore, the decision to end a human life should not be vested in the state, nor in any individual. It seems highly unlikely that the death penalty will ever be reintroduced in the UK, despite differing public opinion. The decision came after a lot of debate and this is why it still stands strong and is unlikely to ever be rescinded. Many people don't seem to realise the reason for abolition:That Judges lost confidence in capital punishment after so many miscarriages. " as people have said though the death penalty should be for the ones who have done it like ruckabanna.varley..lee rigbys murderers.rihona whites killer.plus many more who have 100 per cent killed people | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them. Great opinion 👍" Agree with the sentiment but have to consider how much it costs to house and feed the scum. Rather just tip them and be done. | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them. Great opinion 👍 Agree with the sentiment but have to consider how much it costs to house and feed the scum. Rather just tip them and be done. " It does and that’s why it’s good to see everyone’s different opinions on the subject | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them." Except that the taxpayers have to fund it. A life for a life, but only where there’s no room left for doubt | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them." At great public expense. | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them. Except that the taxpayers have to fund it. A life for a life, but only where there’s no room left for doubt " So a husband murdering his wife in their home where she should be safe wouldn't get hung. A guy killing another guy in a one punch attack would get hung. | |||
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"1, no, we are civilised country. 2,there are mistakes made all the time by the judiciary, convicting innocent people. If you bring back the death penalty, some innocent person could be executed by the state. 3, why not include Sharia law, which prescribes punitive limb amputation. I shudder to think what will be cut off for homosexuality." Why would you bring Sharia into it we are talking about our legal system. Yes there were mistakes made in the past. But now with forensics and DNA It’s difficult, It should be seen more as a deterrent ! | |||
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"The Birmingham Six, the Guilford Four. Convicted on flawed evidence. Neither group was terrorists,just Irish men. It's astonishing how many people actually believe that a ruling of 'unsafe convictions' means they didn't commit the crimes they were originally convicted of. Great marketing by their left wing defence team, but read between the lines. They were proved to be innocent. " They definitely weren't, there's a great difference between a conviction being declared unsafe, and those responsible being innocent. | |||
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"The Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Act 1965 wasn't brought in lightly. It was introduced under Harold Wilson's Labour Government and went through an extensive parliamentary process. It also had a 5-year sunset clause, meaning that it would expire if it wasn't debated again within 5 years. It finally became permanent in 1969, with a mandatory life sentence for murder. The death penalty for other crimes like high treason and piracy with violence wasn't abolished until 1996. My personal view, as previously stated, is based on a straightforward principle. The authority over life ultimately belongs to nature itself. Therefore, the decision to end a human life should not be vested in the state, nor in any individual. It seems highly unlikely that the death penalty will ever be reintroduced in the UK, despite differing public opinion. The decision came after a lot of debate and this is why it still stands strong and is unlikely to ever be rescinded. Many people don't seem to realise the reason for abolition:That Judges lost confidence in capital punishment after so many miscarriages. " Precisely! And that’s another pertinent and vital aspect. Some of the strongest voices for abolition came from the judiciary — the very people directly involved at the time and tasked with making the ultimate decision, certainly better qualified than many to voice a reasoned and valid opinion. When those passing sentence lose confidence in the system’s ability to be certain, there lies the crucial and decisive factor! | |||
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"That piece of shit that killed the 3 little girls in Southport should have been shot by the police when they attended. Now we have to fork out for him for years, and he's been causing aggro in jail. No justice. " and them two scumbags near me in Blackpool for killing baby preston davey.let them all hang | |||
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"Should be mandatory hanging for all those found guilty of grooming gang offences and anyone who violates a minor, they only got away with it, because Labour wanted their votes. I would propose that anyone who receives the death penalty goes into a special lottery so they dont know when they get to meet that rope, just to give them a bit more anxiety before the big drop!!" that's a great idea if we hung one a week they draw there name out the week before they get hanged.then after the first one is done they do the draw for the second one.imagine the anxiety they would be going through. | |||
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"How much does it cost the tax payer to keep someone in prison for the rest of their life?" Lol. And how many times has someone been locked up for years, when the police didn't do their job properly? Recent case, can't remember his name and he spent 16 odd years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. | |||
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"Just one point for the hang 'em high mob to consider ... you need someone to do the deed. And that person needs to carry out their duty with dignity, compassion, professionalism and lack of emotion. It has to be swift, efficient and accurate. There's a lot more to it than sticking a noose around someone's neck and pulling a lever. So, to all those in favour, be honest with yourselves ... could you do the job?" maybe not hang them but I'd certainly give them the lethal injection only to the ones who have 100per cent commited the crime like the Southport killer and the Blackpool killer | |||
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"Yes especially if they get a whole life sentence (never released) ." Maybe give them the option of euthanasia, especially if they're never getting released. | |||
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"Should be mandatory hanging for all those found guilty of grooming gang offences and anyone who violates a minor, they only got away with it, because Labour wanted their votes. I would propose that anyone who receives the death penalty goes into a special lottery so they dont know when they get to meet that rope, just to give them a bit more anxiety before the big drop!!" Wow…so the huge majority that labour gained was the pedophile vote? So, if we start killing them we would soon run out of rope, bullets, injections space to bury/cremate the bodies etc. | |||
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"After yesterday's Ruth Ellis story, I'm surprised people are still in favor of the death penalty." It seems that many people just focus entirely on a personal need for barbaric vengeful retribution as opposed to the process of effective justice, with total disregard for the many moral, ethical and legal complexities involved, including the possibility of miscarriages of justice, and omit to reason the overall issue through. | |||
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"No I think a whole life order is worse. It brings immense phycological torture, no sense of time, no hope, no possible parole, nothing to look forward to, same routine for the rest of your life, constantly looking over your shoulder because of the target on your back. The mental torture for the rest of their life is worse than topping them. Except that the taxpayers have to fund it. A life for a life, but only where there’s no room left for doubt " Trying to behead someone in broad daylight..with multiple cameras..can't be that much doubt | |||
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