FabGuys.com forum: Who loves to be hard?

By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Great feeling to have a hard cock

Do you agree?

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By *oel2020Man
7 weeks ago

brough

Yea and naked

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By *ronmant16Man
7 weeks ago

Sheffield

I like the first hardon of the day when I wake, that first roll back of the skin is like no other

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By *hubbyGinger76Man
7 weeks ago

Halesowen

Always like having something to play with

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By *ully63Man
7 weeks ago

Didcot

Love waking up with a hardon. No matter what the time.

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By *ewBrumBiMan
7 weeks ago

Birmingham

Depends on the situation - not always ideal to have an erection! Haha

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By *sfguyMan
7 weeks ago

stockton

Hard wanking now

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By *eith_JohnstonMan
7 weeks ago

Elgin

No greater feeling than being rock hard and throbbing. Balls tight and tingling

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Yes wanking slowly as you imagine your next meet and what it will bring mmmm

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By *apekrazeMan
7 weeks ago

rossendale

Remember having 2 viagra once my cock was solid for 3hrs despite cumming twice

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By *ickSeekerMan
7 weeks ago

Canterbury

" Who loves to be hard? "

Who doesn't!?!? 🫢 Now getting a semi just browsing through the forum. Maybe time to turn in 🛌

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Not as many as I thought ?

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By *kwankerukukMan
7 weeks ago

Newcastle

Cock gets hard as soon as i log in

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By *ayboy1966Man
7 weeks ago

Glasgow

As an older get, takes quite a bit to get me hard these days to be honest

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

When you get there though mmmmm

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By *hucky5749Man
7 weeks ago

dukinfield

Get hard very easily

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By *iExCuckMan
7 weeks ago

Lowestoft

I think I must love it, its always hard even when bent over and taking a massive cock up me

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Not as easy to get there when you’re older. So we savour those moments

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By *iExCuckMan
7 weeks ago

Lowestoft

"Not as easy to get there when you’re older. So we savour those moments "

Seems that way these days. Never met one when I was in public toilets in the old days. All had rock hard cocks willing to fuck me

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

Love being hard x

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By *o48Man
7 weeks ago

Gateshead

Love the feeling of being hard love waking up with a hardon

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Hard anytime does me

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By *erasusMan
7 weeks ago

Glasgow

It’s the best and the ladies are so jealous we have it 😂

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By *unter212Man
7 weeks ago

Manchester

Harder the better mmmm

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By *erehambiMan
7 weeks ago

Dereham

Got my hard cock in my hand right now

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By *otsure03Man
7 weeks ago

witney

Mmmmm yes

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

I think I’m hard most of the day!

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
7 weeks ago

North East

Love the feeling of a throbbing hard cock

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Yes love it as it goes from soft to semi to hard, the. Keeping it hard edging etc

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By *on779Man
7 weeks ago

colchester mersea

Yes love just being hard to play with it and edge

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By *wuklad4olderTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Chester

I love to make cocks hard

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By *om.stockingsMan
7 weeks ago

mold

Hard in tights is nice

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By *iExCuckMan
7 weeks ago

Lowestoft

"Depends on the situation - not always ideal to have an erection! Haha"

I agree. I was an avid swimmer and hated the change rooms and showers after club swim. Always teased about how small my dick was including some calling it a Clitoris. But the main problem is when ever anyone mentioned my dick, it went hard and nothing I could do to stop it. Obviously got more laughs.

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Most of the time we all do

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By *ornblower555Man
7 weeks ago

wexford

Love waking up with a throbbing stiff cock

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By *asyman321 OP Man
7 weeks ago

north east

Or getting one as you imagine

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Bristol

Well who doesn't love a nice throbbing stiffy x

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By *umluverxxxTV/TS
7 weeks ago

Hook

Lovely to feel my hardness

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Hard now playing mmmm

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By *ertsguy77Man
6 weeks ago

Welwyn garden city

Love the feeling when my cocks hard

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By *ittleguy61Man
6 weeks ago

Andover

Love being hard

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By *uckmeslow555Man
6 weeks ago

oakham

At my age I’m glad I still can’t lol but love it

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By *ondon2024Man
6 weeks ago

loughton

Love being hard

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By *etechattingMan
6 weeks ago

Nottingham

Hard in tight boxers a great feeling, then hard and naked

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By *regABCMan
6 weeks ago

blackhall

It's a natural feeling better with other guys

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By *wood400Man
6 weeks ago

Blackpool

I love being hard in awkward places makes it more exciting

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By *oodsman2Man
6 weeks ago

Galashiels

A hard cock in panties. Dream combination

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By *ertsguy77Man
6 weeks ago

Welwyn garden city

Being hard and pre cum in boxers, feels good

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By *atty70Man
6 weeks ago

port erin

Yep

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By *arriedbiMan
6 weeks ago

Aldershot

Yep especially as it's sexy men that get it hard

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By *igs72Man
6 weeks ago

Motherwell

Being hard just means you have to play. Bring it on 😜😜

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By *ancelot6969Man
6 weeks ago

HINCKLEY

Love the feeling

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By *ogerKMan
6 weeks ago

Haywards Heath

mmmm yes love playing with my hard on then spunking loud and lots

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By *ubby loves laceMan
6 weeks ago

weymouth

Im always hard

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By *roy8Man
6 weeks ago

Perthshire

You are all lucky bastards, I used to be like you until 5 years ago then prostate cancer loomed,that got ripped out and alas semi is the best I can produce,sadly. If only!!!!!!

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By *onmouthshireMaleMan
6 weeks ago

usk

I'm working today on a stall and I shall be hard cock out hidden by apron and my stall

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By *etechattingMan
6 weeks ago

Nottingham

I want to be under the stall, playing with your hard cock

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By *ardly blueMan
6 weeks ago

Perth

I get hard as soon as I message someone and stay hard until they make me cum.

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Lovely way to be hard and horny

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By *indum_ColoniaMan
6 weeks ago

Lincoln

Rock hard now

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By *ick cumMan
6 weeks ago

Oldham

Yes Definitely and naked with a room full of guys heaven

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By *riguy5Man
6 weeks ago

watford

Such a great feeling. Love an edge session or a group to play in

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Yes me

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By *urreyWant2SuckMan
6 weeks ago

Haslemere

That time when you can get it out, get it hard and in your hand … love it

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By *incs funMan
6 weeks ago

Lincolnshire

Love to feel a big cock pushing deep into me

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By *ubicattorney2Man
6 weeks ago

looking for fun

Love my cock hard

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By *traight.lad45Man
6 weeks ago

Ebbw Vale

Luv it

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By *ulge1Man
6 weeks ago

Edinburgh

Love waking up with a nice hard cock

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By *illmanimp1972Man
6 weeks ago

pitsea

Love being hard especially in my lycra

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By *irefighterukMan
6 weeks ago

hull

Want to try taking my first cock hard

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Definitely me

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By *urreyjohn61Man
6 weeks ago

Bridport

Love being hard too

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By *ock006Man
6 weeks ago

near okehampton

Love my cock being hard

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By *hototed54Man
6 weeks ago

leeds

I don’t get hard but I love playing with a hard cock

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By *rewe_BiMan
6 weeks ago

crewe

Love being hard.

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By *riguy5Man
6 weeks ago

watford

Love how it feels

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By *iggy45Man
6 weeks ago

surrey/sussex

Can’t beat 69 on stiff cocks

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By *addy cool 555Man
6 weeks ago

Larbert

"Get hard very easily "

Me too

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By *uster692024Man
6 weeks ago

nr Ludlow

Hard reading this thread. Lol

Easy pleased ha ha

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By *igancdTV/TS
6 weeks ago

Wigan

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By *am3032TV/TS
6 weeks ago

Sutton in Ashfield

Love being really hard, right on the edge of cumming X

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

"Love being really hard, right on the edge of cumming X"

Love it too mmmm xx

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By *ackmeoviMan
6 weeks ago

wales

Oh yes love a edge

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By *urieMan
6 weeks ago

Ashford

Unless I'm in stockings and panties when I prefer to be small and tucked away

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By *ubicattorney2Man
6 weeks ago

looking for fun

Love being hard

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By *ig3Man
6 weeks ago

Maldon

Definitely love hard cock

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

I love being hard, rock hard, but does it have to be 3am, it wakes me up,

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Think we all love to be

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By *ndsotobedMan
6 weeks ago

Towcester

What choice do we have!? I only have to think about guys in passing, and I get hard.

It’s my hormones, officer . . .

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By *wadbisexualMan
6 weeks ago

Castle Gresley

I love the feeling of a hard cock.... in my arse

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Hard now

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By *uckmeslow555Man
6 weeks ago

oakham

Playin now love it

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Yes definitely

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By *lanajMan
6 weeks ago

Yeovil

Love being hard don't get as hard as I used to

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By *ediumsized2Man
6 weeks ago

bi-town

well hard or everard !

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
6 weeks ago

North East

Love walking around naked and hard

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Me as well hard mmmmm

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By *avid1066Man
6 weeks ago

Birkenhead

Ohh god yes

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By *ick62Man
6 weeks ago

North Notts

I love a wank

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By *ene2000Man
6 weeks ago

brum

Allways stiff when on here.x

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By *etshavefun91Man
6 weeks ago

around

"Allways stiff when on here.x"

Same!! Should we solve the issue together

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

Teasing my cock whilst on here too right now

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By *etechattingMan
6 weeks ago

Nottingham

Love my cock hard

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

Love being hard. But also semi hard. That is an amazing feeling. Walking around the sauna. Semi hard seeing guys in a similar state. Knowing I'll be fully hard soon

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By *uesada guyMan
6 weeks ago

grays

Love walking around the house with my cock sticking out lol xx

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By *asyman321 OP Man
6 weeks ago

north east

Guess we all like to feel our cocks enlarging as we have horny thoughts

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By *ackmeoviMan
6 weeks ago

wales

Hard and wanking and edging

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By *owestoftBiCdMan
6 weeks ago

Lowestoft

Ffs stupid question

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By *ldderMan
6 weeks ago

Oxford and Sevenoaks Bath

Just lately I seem to be constantly hard

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By *ubseeker2Man
6 weeks ago

staffsl

Love when I have my cock ring on and go the sauna all those guys looking soon gets me hard

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By *asyman321 OP Man
5 weeks ago

north east

Yes love to be hard

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By *oel2020Man
5 weeks ago

brough

So nice when naked hard

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By *riguy5Man
5 weeks ago

watford

Its a great feeling! I like to keeping it going as long as possible

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By *ikepetersMan
5 weeks ago

yeovil

Yup luv it and edging as long as I can

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By *ttmOutdoors.Man
5 weeks ago

Walsall

Yehhh i love edgin for this reason alone, to randomly feel hard

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By *ark81777Man
5 weeks ago

Cardiff

Theres no better feeling than a guys hard cock in my hands

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By *estlondonguyMan
5 weeks ago

Hammersmith

Love getting a cockring on and keeping hard for ages. Naked on the sofa now with a stiffy

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By *oman73Man
5 weeks ago

ayr

Cockring on hard n stroking

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By *ocksuckerLs12Man
5 weeks ago

Leeds

I love been hard

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By (user no longer on site)
5 weeks ago

I wish..!

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By *TS69Man
5 weeks ago

East Sussex

Cock ring & a hard cock here, what’s not to love about a hard cock

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By *rishgigngerMan
5 weeks ago

Ashford

"Cock ring & a hard cock here, what’s not to love about a hard cock "
I’m hard after seeing your pics

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By *oel2020Man
5 weeks ago

brough

Any ones Mrs see

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By *PH1956Man
5 weeks ago

Colchester

Always enjoy getting hard,whenever or wherever it occurs.

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By *asyman321 OP Man
5 weeks ago

north east

Wherever it happens is good for me as well

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By *otsure03Man
5 weeks ago

witney

Love edging

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By *igs72Man
5 weeks ago

Motherwell

Enjoy being hard in public. See if anyone notices 😜

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By *arydeeTV/TS
5 weeks ago

Staffs

"I wish..!"

Me too,

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By *o48Man
5 weeks ago

Gateshead

Love the feeling of being hard

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By *iggy45Man
5 weeks ago

surrey/sussex

Love it. Edging and wanking

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By *urreyWant2SuckMan
5 weeks ago

Haslemere

Hard and stroking - yes!

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By *ucker.27Man
5 weeks ago

Swansea West

I'd stay hard all the time if I could lol

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By *asyman321 OP Man
5 weeks ago

north east

Think we all do probably daily

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By *oolpeteMan
5 weeks ago

Chesterfield

I love to be caged . Rx

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By *reeklover65Man
5 weeks ago

leek

Love being hard, especially when giving the sister in law a huge and knowing she can feel it against her...

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By *ayd100Man
5 weeks ago

bb7

Been a while

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By *ustaguy2014Man
5 weeks ago

Limerick

Rock hard now

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By *hloe74TV/TS
5 weeks ago

great barr

Hard now

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By *asyman321 OP Man
5 weeks ago

north east

Getting there now

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By *omealone8868Man
5 weeks ago

Derby

Let's video call together, wank together and let me watch you pleasure yourself good until you cum! Pm me and let's get the fun started

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By *iggreenockMan
5 weeks ago

Greenock

Like most people I hate it! WTF?

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
5 weeks ago

North East

Love walking around the house naked with a hard on

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By *ubseeker2Man
5 weeks ago

staffsl

Can't beat a good strong hard cock

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By *etechattingMan
5 weeks ago

Nottingham

Walking around house hard' great feeling

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By *wansmickMan
5 weeks ago

Belfast

Can't beat the wake up hard in the morning 😘😘. Love that first grab and wank 👌👌

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By *ightbulb16Man
5 weeks ago

Glasgow

Love being hard when another hard cock is inside me

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
5 weeks ago

Bristol

Yes love a nice big hard on between my legs

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By (user no longer on site)
5 weeks ago

Mmmmm love waking up with a semi hard on, reaching down and getting it fully erect. Lovely.

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By *asyman321 OP Man
5 weeks ago

north east

Lovely getting there

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By *eil_gayMan
4 weeks ago

between nottingham and derby

Love to be hard could do with someone helping me with it

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By *tnbulgesMan
4 weeks ago

Brighton station

Love to be semi too, usually rubbing or squeezing a bulge in some white briefs, oozing precum if edging a while like that. Love to hear others stories fantasies & confessions. What makes you shoot. Tgram too. Pervy.

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By *an 49Man
4 weeks ago

Faversham

I'm awake on sofa on teleguard

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By *otnew16Man
4 weeks ago

Dartford

Woke up hard this morning, so I’m dealing with it the best way I can now with porn on the iPad and watching videos on here. Mmmmm

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By *oxy 11Man
4 weeks ago

Doncaster

When I’m hard nobody knows my cock is so small

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By *ackmeoviMan
4 weeks ago

wales

Love it in hand being edged

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By *uck me in KentMan
4 weeks ago

Medway

Definitely

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By *traight.lad45Man
4 weeks ago

Ebbw Vale

Always

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By *urious dreamerMan
4 weeks ago

telford

Nothing beats a good hard cock. Feeling every inch

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By *altnsand60Man
4 weeks ago

Dover

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with an incredibly hard cock...

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By *ncutNovaMan
4 weeks ago

Telford

100% love being hard! If I could be hard non-stop everyday I would!

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By *ertsguy77Man
4 weeks ago

Welwyn garden city

Love the feeling when hard

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By *PH1956Man
4 weeks ago

Colchester

Luv being hard.

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By *asyman321 OP Man
4 weeks ago

north east

Me as well

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By *rSmedleyMan
4 weeks ago

Telford

Gotta agree, love being hard

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By *uck me in KentMan
4 weeks ago

Medway

Hard right now

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By *iuk74Man
4 weeks ago

Leicester

Think most of us do lol

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By *hyayrshire500Man
4 weeks ago

close to you

Fully erect and slowly rubbing looking at all the lovely cocks in here

No feeling like it, especially knowing I will cum this morning

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By *ew0792Man
4 weeks ago

Loughborough

Always nice to get hard

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By *amesryan692024Man
4 weeks ago

kilmallock

Hard now in bed with sis in laws red lace knickers on

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By *oolpeteMan
4 weeks ago

Chesterfield

I'm caged in my baby doll. Rx

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By *ichtea284Man
4 weeks ago

Beccles

"Hard right now "

Same here

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By *asyman321 OP Man
4 weeks ago

north east

Hard now as well

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By *asyman321 OP Man
3 weeks ago

north east

Love to be hard and horny

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By *ottomBarebackBoiMan
3 weeks ago

Brentford

Love being hard, but also love a hard warm cock pulsing in my hand or hole

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By *asyman321 OP Man
3 weeks ago

north east

Couldn’t agree more with above comment

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By *atty70Man
3 weeks ago

port erin

Mmm something hard in me please

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