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"What the hells going on there its gone downhill very quickly cant see it lasting much longer" Why what has happened. | |||
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"The only way it can improve or carry on is if more people use its facilities, often when I go in the afternoon there is very few men there. Not the first time being there for half an hour and no one there apart from the guy at the reception. If this place closes the nearest place for guys from North of Dundee will be Edinburgh which has 2 or 3 clubs and several bars for gay , bi etc. In Aberdeen I only know of one gay bar and nightclub with no knowledge of any other places to meet new people or feel comfortable to approach a guy. There could be other places for all I know. The best thing for clubs is the fact that if you can't accommodate it is a good safe place to meet. It is a case of use it or lose it. If the place is advertised outside its website or fb page it might get the wrong sort of people there. It needs to be advertised through gay , bi and other group chat and meet apps as well as at other types of media but the hardiest thing is being discrete but yet popular. Maybe the club should ask the Edinburgh and Glasgow clubs how they manage to keep busy. What is the club like at evenings or weekends, does many folk attend then and what are the best days or nights to attend. For older guys daytime is probably better as the fear of walking up a dark street at night is not there and you can always tell your wife you are just away to the shops or the pub. So use this club or lose it as I say the more that go the better it will get. Remember heating and lighting costs along with other regular costs have to be paid or it will fold." People pay good money to go here. When the steam room isn't working and they've said they've no intention of fixing it people shouldn't be paying for the use of all the facilities. People are saying the sauna thermostat has been turned down and that it's cold walking around the place. The porn downstairs isn't working and they've said nobody to have fun upstairs despite the staff doing so. So it's a 2 way street. Business need to encourage folk to go by providing the facilities they actually say they do and that way folk might go. When folk ask questions on forums nobody from the staff replies but they creep your profile instead. You say folk should use it or lose it but as I've said there needs to be a reason to use it and this place is not providing any reason to. | |||
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"The only way it can improve or carry on is if more people use its facilities, often when I go in the afternoon there is very few men there. Not the first time being there for half an hour and no one there apart from the guy at the reception. If this place closes the nearest place for guys from North of Dundee will be Edinburgh which has 2 or 3 clubs and several bars for gay , bi etc. In Aberdeen I only know of one gay bar and nightclub with no knowledge of any other places to meet new people or feel comfortable to approach a guy. There could be other places for all I know. The best thing for clubs is the fact that if you can't accommodate it is a good safe place to meet. It is a case of use it or lose it. If the place is advertised outside its website or fb page it might get the wrong sort of people there. It needs to be advertised through gay , bi and other group chat and meet apps as well as at other types of media but the hardiest thing is being discrete but yet popular. Maybe the club should ask the Edinburgh and Glasgow clubs how they manage to keep busy. What is the club like at evenings or weekends, does many folk attend then and what are the best days or nights to attend. For older guys daytime is probably better as the fear of walking up a dark street at night is not there and you can always tell your wife you are just away to the shops or the pub. So use this club or lose it as I say the more that go the better it will get. Remember heating and lighting costs along with other regular costs have to be paid or it will fold. People pay good money to go here. When the steam room isn't working and they've said they've no intention of fixing it people shouldn't be paying for the use of all the facilities. People are saying the sauna thermostat has been turned down and that it's cold walking around the place. The porn downstairs isn't working and they've said nobody to have fun upstairs despite the staff doing so. So it's a 2 way street. Business need to encourage folk to go by providing the facilities they actually say they do and that way folk might go. When folk ask questions on forums nobody from the staff replies but they creep your profile instead. You say folk should use it or lose it but as I've said there needs to be a reason to use it and this place is not providing any reason to. " Fair point. Running on a shoe string | |||
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"Completely agree, use it or lose it. Was here Sat afternoon, good fun , approx 10 guys in, Sauna was fine, granted steam room inoperative but hey the cost of runnning that must be crazy in the current climate , lol.. All facilities were spotless and tidy , staff very professional and polite. Some people never happy and just wanna be negative hiding behind behind their keyboard. Go and enjoy ![]() There's never 10 folk in a day never mind at once lol. Keyboard warriors right enough | |||
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"Contrary to others opinions I went Yesterday ( Tuesday open 10/5 ) at first I thought it was just going to be me and the guy who was so up himself However patience paid off and from 12.30 till I left 2 hrs later there were 7 very fit and horny guys Who didn’t hold back and it ended up a messy session in the dark room And unlike “ Mr Tan “ didn’t let age or size bother them I hope that’s the start of Bachuss being busy again And that the trolls give it a rest now And no in not ! An employ " Rarely see anyone fit in there. But I guess it’s just a matter of standards. Lol. | |||
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"Who is the Mr tan your talking about?" One has to presume the guy he referred as being so up himself. He had a tan? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I feel sorry for this place!! I have never had a bad day here but there seems to be an agenda for sone peopke . I have visited a few sauna over the years and they are All hit or miss, but leave this p lace alone and go and use it. " I quite agree , a small number of folks seem to have an agenda intended to cause the business problems Let’s not let them do that Use it or lose it | |||
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"I have to admit I like the place, but just doesn't seem the get much people in. I would like to see the sauna running though so I can relax there even if it's on the quiet side. I guess I have an issue with turning up and just sitting in a room waiting it out" All I can say is that they are advertising Tuesday Is mixed sauna days 10/3 And so some might have been expecting female company ? However once there and horny it might have been a case of any holes a goal | |||
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"I feel sorry for this place!! I have never had a bad day here but there seems to be an agenda for sone peopke . I have visited a few sauna over the years and they are All hit or miss, but leave this p lace alone and go and use it. I quite agree , a small number of folks seem to have an agenda intended to cause the business problems Let’s not let them do that Use it or lose it " A small number of folks seem prepared to 'take any old shit' that's thrown at them, whilst others are a little more discerning and would prefer sauna owners to up their game ![]() | |||
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"I feel sorry for this place!! I have never had a bad day here but there seems to be an agenda for sone peopke . I have visited a few sauna over the years and they are All hit or miss, but leave this p lace alone and go and use it. I quite agree , a small number of folks seem to have an agenda intended to cause the business problems Let’s not let them do that Use it or lose it A small number of folks seem prepared to 'take any old shit' that's thrown at them, whilst others are a little more discerning and would prefer sauna owners to up their game ![]() Thanks for your thoughts. Pity you blocked me to prevent a private reply | |||
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"I feel sorry for this place!! I have never had a bad day here but there seems to be an agenda for sone peopke . I have visited a few sauna over the years and they are All hit or miss, but leave this p lace alone and go and use it. I quite agree , a small number of folks seem to have an agenda intended to cause the business problems Let’s not let them do that Use it or lose it A small number of folks seem prepared to 'take any old shit' that's thrown at them, whilst others are a little more discerning and would prefer sauna owners to up their game ![]() This is simply not true: I was blocked (in 2019) and I then reciprocated! If I discover I'm blocked, as a matter of routine, I usually reciprocate ![]() | |||
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"You wouldn't pay for a hotel room and expect the telly not to work, the shower to be cold and the toilet not to flush though would you? ![]() ![]() This is a fair point. But let’s be honest. If someone can wander around a damp wet forest , with their arse in the air for all and sundry to fuck, it’s obvious they really don’t care about the risks of getting caught. So, you’d think with a Little bit of understanding, if they started going to Bacchus , where , in theory it’s a safe place to get up to anything they wanted without fear of getting caught ( or pine needles stuck up their arse) They would take it. This In turn , you would think , would up the numbers / money generated Therefore more investment. But that’s far from the case. Broken equipment that never gets replaced is never a good sign, but again, there are many who don’t bother about such trivial things. All they’d really need is a room with four walls. Lol | |||
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"Will anything less than the accidental release of viagra into Dundees water supply give the numbers a boost? FWIW I agree it's safer and more comfortable than hanging out in the woods. The price is reasonable and it is closer to lots of places than the alternatives. More people should use it and it would be even better. " Most people, I suggest, are not interested in paying money for a product/service in the hope that their patronage will result in an improvement. They'd be more interested in paying for an excellent product that attracts them in the first place: provide a good product/service that enough people want/can afford and the rewards flow from that? | |||
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"Will anything less than the accidental release of viagra into Dundees water supply give the numbers a boost? FWIW I agree it's safer and more comfortable than hanging out in the woods. The price is reasonable and it is closer to lots of places than the alternatives. More people should use it and it would be even better. " Dundee doesn't need viagra in the water, this place needs to buck itself up, listen to what people tell them and react positively. Working facilities would be a good start. | |||
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"You wouldn't pay for a hotel room and expect the telly not to work, the shower to be cold and the toilet not to flush though would you? ![]() ![]() I agree. It appears that Bacchus consistently sets very low standards then fails to achieve them. | |||
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"Easily the worst sauna I have ever been to" I went to one in Leicester which looked like someone woke up one day and thought.... I'm gonna turn my flat into a sauna... And I'm gonna spend £100 on converting it... It was awful loll | |||
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"Easily the worst sauna I have ever been to I went to one in Leicester which looked like someone woke up one day and thought.... I'm gonna turn my flat into a sauna... And I'm gonna spend £100 on converting it... It was awful loll " I've been to that Leicester one too, pretty grim lol | |||
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"I'm local reason I'd never go is in case I get seen it's on a busy road " I think that is one reason why more guys don’t use it. The entrance being on a busy bus route is not ideal. Maybe having the entrance in a different location would be better. Might encourage more people to visit. Also would be good it the steam room worked, can’t remember that last time it was in use, but it must be a few years. | |||
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"Easily the worst sauna I have ever been to" Worst sauna I've been to was in Leicester | |||
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"The steam room has never worked since the place opened in 2007. The sauna has always been on the cooler side of Luke warm. There has never been a jacuzzi. It's not on a busy road. And it doesn't scream gay sex venue. I've been to many gay sex clubs (aka saunas) throughout the UK and parts of Europe. They are easy to find. They're on busy streets and sometimes quite residential areas. And it's quite clear they are venues for gay and bi men only. And yet somehow they have plenty in attendance. Outside of event nights some years ago, I have never seen more than 6 guys in at same time! The big problem for any gay venue in Dundee is homophobia it's not a big enough catchment area. Steamworks in currently the only gay sauna in Edinburgh and that's a big catchment area, and yet they recently reduced their opening hours at weekends and during the week they have to have themed days to attract visitors. You're all taLking like it could be better and will get better. It's been like this since it opened back in 2007. So why anyone would take it on as a business is beyond me. It's financial suicide. Or maybe just some kind of sexual fantasy just to get off on saying, oh, I own a sex club!" I agree with what you say. Could well be the way to score , It’s a tough business surely. I was in last Sunday. 3 people including me in. I only lasted 30 mins , and I don’t mean my sexual stamina. Lol | |||
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". Is it beyond people to look anything up? Their website says Friday 30th June - Trans/ Cd and admirers night 8 pm till late Saturday 1st July - fet/kink 8 pm till late. and before anyone asks, I think the fet/kink is mixed gender as it doesn't say gay/bi fet/kink as other previous headers have and it looks like Tuesdays 10am to 5pm is mixed wondering what the 'rope class' is on Tuesday nights. A bondage thing I presume ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() These very same people are probably unable to wipe their own arse also | |||
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". Is it beyond people to look anything up? Their website says Friday 30th June - Trans/ Cd and admirers night 8 pm till late Saturday 1st July - fet/kink 8 pm till late. and before anyone asks, I think the fet/kink is mixed gender as it doesn't say gay/bi fet/kink as other previous headers have and it looks like Tuesdays 10am to 5pm is mixed wondering what the 'rope class' is on Tuesday nights. A bondage thing I presume ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks man, I had a look at the opening hours last week and thought it was just till five but that was on Sundays and tuesdays | |||
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". Is it beyond people to look anything up? Their website says Friday 30th June - Trans/ Cd and admirers night 8 pm till late Saturday 1st July - fet/kink 8 pm till late. and before anyone asks, I think the fet/kink is mixed gender as it doesn't say gay/bi fet/kink as other previous headers have and it looks like Tuesdays 10am to 5pm is mixed wondering what the 'rope class' is on Tuesday nights. A bondage thing I presume ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Also thanks for your snippy remarks. | |||
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". Is it beyond people to look anything up? Their website says Friday 30th June - Trans/ Cd and admirers night 8 pm till late Saturday 1st July - fet/kink 8 pm till late. and before anyone asks, I think the fet/kink is mixed gender as it doesn't say gay/bi fet/kink as other previous headers have and it looks like Tuesdays 10am to 5pm is mixed wondering what the 'rope class' is on Tuesday nights. A bondage thing I presume ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe there should be a themed night at Bacchus for 'those who cannot wipe their own arses'... ![]() | |||
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". Is it beyond people to look anything up? Their website says Friday 30th June - Trans/ Cd and admirers night 8 pm till late Saturday 1st July - fet/kink 8 pm till late. and before anyone asks, I think the fet/kink is mixed gender as it doesn't say gay/bi fet/kink as other previous headers have and it looks like Tuesdays 10am to 5pm is mixed wondering what the 'rope class' is on Tuesday nights. A bondage thing I presume ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() They’ve gotta find their way in the front door first Probably need their hand held too. | |||
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"All these comments are fair comments . The club has its event nights its open 12 noon till 8pm Wednesday to Saturday and 1pm till 5pm Sundays for the sole use of gay and bi guys . Gay and bi guys are still welcome to any of the events outwith those hours The steamroom is out of commission and needs replacement but that won't happen until the funds become available. Running costs of the whole premises are a bit out of hand in the present climate the club runs at a loss and those who do use it unfortunately don't cover the costs let alone allow for the costs of upgrading. Why would people be afraid they met someone who knows them in there. I'm sure the person they know would be there for the same reason, and unlikely to advertise that. bacchus is there to provide a safe comfortable environment for meeting like minded people socially or otherwise. The facilities are clean comfortable and safe. The staff keep the place clean and trouble free for people to enjoy themselves. However the staff can't fill the venue, that's where the peoples choice comes in. Yes use it or lose it is a very apt phrase. As is use it improve it!" Well said. Bacchus is a good place. Any time I’ve been I’ve had fun albeit the most guys there numbered about 7. Nevertheless, it’s what YOU make of it. As has been said - use it or lose it. | |||
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"Well people might use it if they knew what was on and when. Unfortunately the owner doesn't even know. Changes daily open when it suits no security no drugs policy that only applies to visitors staff smoking out the back every hour mixed sauna are generally all male except staff been there a few Sundays and Tuesdays bored guys l looking for females good times tend to be Saturday night events . And they are hit or miss" Ive been in a few times but it's been very quiet, I can't find when it's men only posted up, not really looking to compete with women | |||
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"How much are they charging asking for a friend" According to website it's £15 | |||
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