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"Thanks for the messages. Anybody manage to have some fun when you were in the mob?" Unfortunately not. Lots of looking but never acted on it for same reasons. | |||
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"I lost my career because of it sadly. At least mine was an honourable discharge, luckily." That sucks, I’m sad to hear it…… | |||
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"I lost my career because of it sadly. At least mine was an honourable discharge, luckily. That sucks, I’m sad to hear it……" This treatment was made illegal - not by any UK government but by a direct appeal against the UK government to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Taking back control indeed...what an utter bojo lie! | |||
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"i was given 4 hrs notice to pack my belongings and get off the RAF station. had nowhere to go. ![]() Disgusting! | |||
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"I lost my career because of it sadly. At least mine was an honourable discharge, luckily." Not good...hope they get the redress sorted .. | |||
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"I was in the REME in the 80's, shared a room with 4 guys, always enjoyed them getting changed, going for showers or catching one of them wanking, always had bi thoughts while I wanked, one night we all got pissed and started playing games, they tied me naked to a chair and started to wank over me and shoot their spunk all over me, 3 of them went to bed and the corporal started to suck me off saying I deserved it, I ve never cum so much in my life, nothing more happened. " whole new meaning to Arte et Marte... | |||
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"It must have been horrendous in the forces at that time. So many guys must have been gay, living in their own respective closits. Putting on a Hard Masculin Mask but screaming to be released internally." Certain irony that many of most heroic soldiers over the years have been men with a penchant for other men...i know a fomrer officer who is married to a former SAS OC...a lass who worked undercover in NI was hounded for being a Lesbian yet she had passed the course that SAS/SBS types had failed, feckin great Operator and deserved her payout from MoD...afraid the Military is still very mysoginstic let alone inherently homophobic...reflective of society so getting better but long way to go..... | |||
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"Was stuck in Edinburgh Waverley with a mate of mine, we had been down his home for the weekend having a laugh, getting pushed and chasing girls! Anyway it’s Sunday night and no train on to Rosyth until 5 in the morning or something so we had a few hours to kill. back in the 70’s no pubs open we could hide in so hung around and got a snack and cuppa at the station cafe where we got chatting to a guy. After a while he invited us round to his to keep warm and pass the time. We were both pretty young and innocent in many ways but thought why not?? I was having a beer and listening to radio when my mate went off with this guy for a look round?? AnywY they came back after about 40 minutes and my mate was pretty flushed and the other guy asked me if I wanted a wee tour. So off I went with him and eventually we weee in his bedroom and he says my mate let him suck his cock so would I do the same? I said I’m not gay so no thanks but he said just close your eyes and pretend it’s your girlfriend. Eventually I gave in as by this time he had got naked and was very smooth and sexy looking with a big cock and lots of tattoos. He was amazing at oral and I was loving it when in burst my mate and before I knew it he was fucking this guy as he still sucked my cock. Turned into a right dirty threesome and we got up to all sorts. My mate never mentioned it ever again but always used to follow me to shower and watch me naked!" Waverly and couldnt find pubs open...beheezus ..black oukn ...the crown ...only open from midnight to eight Am ![]() | |||
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"I was an MO for 12 years and you'd be surprised at the high number of serving soldiers, sailors and airman, both male and female who confided in me regarding their sexuality. It was and still is shameful how the military treated those who were brave enough to be who their truely are or even worse those who were outed by their brothers in arms. The UK armed forces are the best in the world,over the last few years there has been a massive drive on inclusion, diversity and equality, I believe it is definitely going in the right direction,more can still be done. Gay soldiers are not asking for preferential treatment, they just and rightly so just want to be themselves. There is still a underlying stigma with regards to being a gay soldier- you're not manly enough etc, again you'll be surprised how many of our highly specialist troops have differing orientations, good luck telling them they're not manly. ALL soldiers,regardless of gender and sexual orientation serve our country,serve with pride, unquestionable courage unselfishly and many have sadly paid the ultimate sacrifice. I hope that those now serving feel that they are now supported and can be confident that they can live their lives in whatever guise they wish without the fear of career fouling,rejection and prejudice. " Well said. | |||
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"Reading Whyterides post, I think there's an element not wanting to accept your own sexuality when you display homophobic behaviour. I agree with your assessment of how young people view this issue today. Thankfully." Tend to agree with you. I don't remember any of my fellow officers being caught and made to fall on their sword. However fairly certain some were gay or bi. Lots of gay jokes in the mess which some people would find unacceptable. Knew of 3 or 4 squaddies who got thrown out for gay activity. Glad it is now legal but do wonder how acceptable it is. | |||
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"I had a lad fuck me when I was on a course at Chatham we were out on a pub crawl he thought I was pissed we went into the garden to use the toilets he pulled my pants down and fucked he did that in 3diffrent pubs was shocked when we went for a shower next morning and I asked him to carry on from last night was fucked by him most nights after that until the course finished " Pubs with Gardems in Medway ...narrows it down... | |||
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"A friend of mine, back in 1981, was caught in a gay club on the infamous Kurfürstendamm Berlin by the RMP. He was put under open arrest, being a sergeant, and the poor lad was so out of his mind he took his own life rather than a court martial. Just terrible" That's terrible. Probably heard about it at the time as I was stationed in West Germany throughout 1981, although I don't remember. Being caught in a gay club didn't necessarily result in a court martial but it probably would result in a dishonourable discharge with a loss of all rights and privileges. | |||
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"Yes I know. I was the lead case in Scotland while the “high court 4” were in england" The younger generation owe a debt of gratitude to people like you who put their heads over the parapet. And you should be proud of that. | |||
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"I was an MO for 12 years and you'd be surprised at the high number of serving soldiers, sailors and airman, both male and female who confided in me regarding their sexuality. It was and still is shameful how the military treated those who were brave enough to be who their truely are or even worse those who were outed by their brothers in arms. The UK armed forces are the best in the world,over the last few years there has been a massive drive on inclusion, diversity and equality, I believe it is definitely going in the right direction,more can still be done. Gay soldiers are not asking for preferential treatment, they just and rightly so just want to be themselves. There is still a underlying stigma with regards to being a gay soldier- you're not manly enough etc, again you'll be surprised how many of our highly specialist troops have differing orientations, good luck telling them they're not manly. ALL soldiers,regardless of gender and sexual orientation serve our country,serve with pride, unquestionable courage unselfishly and many have sadly paid the ultimate sacrifice. I hope that those now serving feel that they are now supported and can be confident that they can live their lives in whatever guise they wish without the fear of career fouling,rejection and prejudice. " You can examine me anytime you want to ![]() | |||
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"I was an MO for 12 years and you'd be surprised at the high number of serving soldiers, sailors and airman, both male and female who confided in me regarding their sexuality. It was and still is shameful how the military treated those who were brave enough to be who their truely are or even worse those who were outed by their brothers in arms. The UK armed forces are the best in the world,over the last few years there has been a massive drive on inclusion, diversity and equality, I believe it is definitely going in the right direction,more can still be done. Gay soldiers are not asking for preferential treatment, they just and rightly so just want to be themselves. There is still a underlying stigma with regards to being a gay soldier- you're not manly enough etc, again you'll be surprised how many of our highly specialist troops have differing orientations, good luck telling them they're not manly. ALL soldiers,regardless of gender and sexual orientation serve our country,serve with pride, unquestionable courage unselfishly and many have sadly paid the ultimate sacrifice. I hope that those now serving feel that they are now supported and can be confident that they can live their lives in whatever guise they wish without the fear of career fouling,rejection and prejudice. " Quite Right ! | |||
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"I was in the reserves as a diver. We had two girls in our intake, on a weekend training session out PO pulled one of the girls knickers off while we were getting out our dry suits. I was amazed he would do that. The other girl was hosed down in her white shirt so everyone could enjoy her ties, they were nice. She then transfered out of the diving branch. The knickerless girl left altogether. Nothing was said to the PO. Pure abuse of authority. " As a Diver you have to trust your dive team, i cant think of any fenale shark wrestlers but will be able to check who the PO was pretty easily...not just an abuse of power a wholly sexually assault that should have been investigated...i know one Dive School DS who paid for being a power crazy twat... | |||
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"I was an MO for 12 years and you'd be surprised at the high number of serving soldiers, sailors and airman, both male and female who confided in me regarding their sexuality. It was and still is shameful how the military treated those who were brave enough to be who their truely are or even worse those who were outed by their brothers in arms. The UK armed forces are the best in the world,over the last few years there has been a massive drive on inclusion, diversity and equality, I believe it is definitely going in the right direction,more can still be done. Gay soldiers are not asking for preferential treatment, they just and rightly so just want to be themselves. There is still a underlying stigma with regards to being a gay soldier- you're not manly enough etc, again you'll be surprised how many of our highly specialist troops have differing orientations, good luck telling them they're not manly. ALL soldiers,regardless of gender and sexual orientation serve our country,serve with pride, unquestionable courage unselfishly and many have sadly paid the ultimate sacrifice. I hope that those now serving feel that they are now supported and can be confident that they can live their lives in whatever guise they wish without the fear of career fouling,rejection and prejudice. Quite Right !" I remember a chap you know walking around in a pink thong asking ...does my cock look big in this...ended up traffic light beret collector so when i saw him on tour i couldnt help but laugh at the Taleban making a comment about his webbing ![]() | |||
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"I did eventually take the plunge when a bunch of us got together for a reunion of our training course at one of the guys’ girlfriend’s house. Her dad was a senior officer and they had a big house for a barbecue and at on the beer. I was sharing a room with a good mate (Service rugby player!) and we were just chatting shit before we went to sleep He asked me if I wanted to slide into his single bed with him for a cuddle. Who was I to disagree? I joined him and ended up having a mutual suck session and he asked me to cum on his face. So exciting when we knew all of our mates were in the adjacent rooms. I ended up visiting him at his base sometime after that for another suck session but always had that terrifying feeling of guilt that we’d get caught." Wonder how many at AvN had a reunion of sorts? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I was in the REME in the 80's, shared a room with 4 guys, always enjoyed them getting changed, going for showers or catching one of them wanking, always had bi thoughts while I wanked, one night we all got pissed and started playing games, they tied me naked to a chair and started to wank over me and shoot their spunk all over me, 3 of them went to bed and the corporal started to suck me off saying I deserved it, I ve never cum so much in my life, nothing more happened. " REME here to. The 70s and 80s were great for cock fun back then even in the forces. | |||
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"I had a lad fuck me when I was on a course at Chatham we were out on a pub crawl he thought I was pissed we went into the garden to use the toilets he pulled my pants down and fucked he did that in 3diffrent pubs was shocked when we went for a shower next morning and I asked him to carry on from last night was fucked by him most nights after that until the course finished " Does this pub still exist.. still several pubs about in Chatham with gardens | |||
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"I lost my career because of it sadly. At least mine was an honourable discharge, luckily. That sucks, I’m sad to hear it…… This treatment was made illegal - not by any UK government but by a direct appeal against the UK government to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Taking back control indeed...what an utter bojo lie!" The law was changed long before this govt came to power ffs. You’ve been able to be gay in he armed force’s for years now. | |||
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"It was 2000 long after civvy street" I was replying to the guy above and pointing out that it was long before this govt came to power. 2000 sounds about right. There were numerous gay and bi guys around long before that and everyone knew they were. No one really bothered. My first experience was when I d*unkenly stayed over at a mates on leave. Woke up to him sucking my hard young cock an hour after getting into bed naked. His bedroom was next door yet someone had their mouth around my cock. I know we hadn’t brought any girls back.... then I realised it was him by his murmurs. I’d never given it a thought but I was really rather d*unk and my blood was up. He got one helluva shock that night. ![]() | |||
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"It was 2000 long after civvy street" Id fact check if i were you...i know when same sex was allowed i had a chap walk in my office to tel me he was gay, sent him away until the afternoon as i knew there was a signal in about rules changing... Before that non active homosexuality was already allowed, weirdly no lasses challenged the laws as lesbianism has never been illegal due to Queen Victoris refsuing to sign off the relevant law believing no lady would do such a thing ...a lass i worked with won tons of money from MOD due to the way ahe was treated despite being one of the special ones ... | |||
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"Agree totally with all the sentiments expressed here. I realised that I was gay/bi during my early teens,and had a few brief flings with other guys. The hatred then,and attitudes now,mean that after being married to stifle the rumours, and widowed,I still feel unable to come out to my friends and family. My children found out after someone outed me on another site,and now I don't get to see my grandchildren, as people think I have feelings for them. It's easy to see how lonely repressed guys take their own life. I feel hollow and empty, existing only for the occasional supervised meetings with my lovely grandchildren. " I hope you can get a degree of contentment and happiness in your life. Good luck. | |||
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"I was in 70’s to 90’s was very difficult when you were around so many fit guys and you were bi, a few got caught and were immediately discharged, I had a few experiences with other guys but had to be very careful. Had a good mate slightly younger than me at the time I don’t know how it happened but after a night out we ended up in my room and spent the night together still see him occasionally now still enjoy a cuddle." I wouldn't mind cuddling up to you xx | |||
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"I lost my career because of it sadly. At least mine was an honourable discharge, luckily." Yes I remember getting my room searched on a good few occasions, they knew I was gay, but couldn't prove it It was horrible being treated like a fucking leper They didn't mind me going to war for them twice though | |||
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