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"Anyone know what the OP is smoking?" Dunno! But I want some😁 | |||
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" Farmers selling off land because of inheritance tax " You mean they are getting even RICHER? | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." Thanks for that, Keir | |||
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"Anyone know what the OP is smoking? Dunno! But I want some😁" Fml. I don’t, I’ll stick to 😤 | |||
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"Anyone know what the OP is smoking?" The shredded remains of last year's Labour manifesto | |||
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" Farmers selling off land because of inheritance tax You mean they are getting even RICHER? "Good ole Sara. Your knowledge of farming could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still leave room for the Lord's Prayer and your weekly shopping list  | |||
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" Farmers selling off land because of inheritance tax You mean they are getting even RICHER?
Good ole Sara. Your knowledge of farming could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still leave room for the Lord's Prayer and your weekly shopping list "And Combine Harvester by the Wurzels  | |||
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"Well you never see a farmer on a bike x" You hardly ever see one on a tractor either. They hire contractors for the actual farming. But the main gainers are their accountants. Boom coming? PMSL. | |||
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"With 3 businesses I know of nearby either already gone under or closing, footfall in towns down as there's fuck all there other than estate agents & charity shops (even banks are closing) I'm not sure the OP is on the same page as the rest of us" People have not stopped spending. How they spend it has changed, so the impact on the overall economy is neutral. Town centres took customers for granted, and now they need to create a different offer. | |||
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"Well you never see a farmer on a bike x You hardly ever see one on a tractor either. They hire contractors for the actual farming. But the main gainers are their accountants. Boom coming? PMSL." Surprised you don't in rural Norfolk. Plenty of farmers on tractors around here. Plus driving around in ancient landrovers and clapped out pick-up trucks. | |||
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" People have not stopped spending. How they spend it has changed, so the impact on the overall economy is neutral. Town centres took customers for granted, and now they need to create a different offer. " I spend virtually zero on discretionary spending. I have cut back on everything that I can. It is not a shortfall in cash that has changed my viewpoint but I am building up a war chest to protect me and mine as best i can. I am very much a Dave Ramsey fan, have been for years. | |||
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"With 3 businesses I know of nearby either already gone under or closing, footfall in towns down as there's fuck all there other than estate agents & charity shops (even banks are closing) I'm not sure the OP is on the same page as the rest of us People have not stopped spending. How they spend it has changed, so the impact on the overall economy is neutral. Town centres took customers for granted, and now they need to create a different offer. " Can't find a seat in the overpriced coffee shops | |||
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"most delusional post of 2025 from op" Eary days but Donny and China have done me a favour. All the stock markets are up. Peace looks like it might be breaking out, in various wars. So it looks a good time to be optimistic. | |||
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"most delusional post of 2025 from op Eary days but Donny and China have done me a favour. All the stock markets are up. Peace looks like it might be breaking out, in various wars. So it looks a good time to be optimistic." I appreciate your post, but think the 'actors' in this particular scenario are not yet ready to let the good times flow. But I hope you are right OP. Mx | |||
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"Well you never see a farmer on a bike x You hardly ever see one on a tractor either. They hire contractors for the actual farming. But the main gainers are their accountants. Boom coming? PMSL. Surprised you don't in rural Norfolk. Plenty of farmers on tractors around here. Plus driving around in ancient landrovers and clapped out pick-up trucks." I suspect that's not farmers (or not the big ones) - but contractors and farmworkers. Ancient landrovers are pretty thin on the ground round here - Hilux is a popular brand. Admittedly also bought by ex-Londoners overdoing the Country Life act. | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." . You had that last summer. Then we voted against it. Now we're paying the price | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." If the country is booming it's because employers increasingly hire people on zero hours contracts with no job security, very few employment rights worth the name and no chance of progression within their employment. If Britain is booming why is it operating 2,500 food banks (the highest in Europe), with Germany in second place running a paltry 975 by comparison? (Figures according to Statista.) I don't know what your occupation is but I would guess that you are employed on a full time contract with paid holidays and perhaps access to sick pay and are comfortably remunerated for whatever it is that you do. Many people to not enjoy any of those privileges and live a hand to mouth existence full of stress and uncertainty. So it would be understandable were they to conclude that Britain is only booming due to their exploitation. | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times. If the country is booming it's because employers increasingly hire people on zero hours contracts with no job security, very few employment rights worth the name and no chance of progression within their employment. If Britain is booming why is it operating 2,500 food banks (the highest in Europe), with Germany in second place running a paltry 975 by comparison? (Figures according to Statista.) I don't know what your occupation is but I would guess that you are employed on a full time contract with paid holidays and perhaps access to sick pay and are comfortably remunerated for whatever it is that you do. Many people to not enjoy any of those privileges and live a hand to mouth existence full of stress and uncertainty. So it would be understandable were they to conclude that Britain is only booming due to their exploitation." Firstly,I said on the verge of a boom. If we all take a positive attitude. That is the point of the thread. I agree zero hours contracts are wrong. I suggest you look up the Employment Rights Bill, which is will address the wrongs of zero hours contracts and the inequality that it brings. Finally, I am retired on the state pension plus two small personal pensions. I paid £700 income tax last year, you should be able to work out my total income from that. I have not had a holiday for 6 years. So please do not make inaccurate assumptions. | |||
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"Starmer fucked this country " What, in the space of a few months? Nothing to do with 14 years of Tory rule and Brexit then? | |||
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"That will soon be killed of when Labour have to increase taxes to pay pay for their unlimited immigration, public sector 10% plus pay demands , and more and more people going onto benefits as they wish to feed off our generosity. " Uninformed prejudice | |||
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"Fk me sideways! Aye there may well be a boom but it won't be an economic one.... labour take from the poor and disabled and elderly then throw crumbs to the masses to keep the masses happy.these snidey cunts are as bad as the the Tories " Sour grapes from a Faragist | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times. Thanks for that, Keir" Brilliant one liner. Maybe he's a Liebour mp. | |||
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"With 3 businesses I know of nearby either already gone under or closing, footfall in towns down as there's fuck all there other than estate agents & charity shops (even banks are closing) I'm not sure the OP is on the same page as the rest of us" Lots of room yet for more Turkish barbers.  | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times. Thanks for that, Keir Brilliant one liner. Maybe he's a Liebour mp." you have spelled Liebour wrong LABOUR is how you spell it not Liebour. | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times."  | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times. "Life has been excellent all my days, times previously have been great and they continue on a daily basis regardless of which party is in power Life is what You make it; Not what others try and make it for you | |||
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"The Government is trying to increase our economy by announcing a revised deal with the E.U. Hopefully another step forward for better times ahead, or not?" All sounds good to me. Closer ties to our nearest neighbors simply seems the most effective and efficient thing to do, especially given the volatility of our other option. The EU may be a behemoth of beaurocracy, but at least it is mostly predictable and won’t drive down food standards etc. | |||
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"Wait till they start streaming in from India , no national insurance for two years Watch the big boom then " There is no increase in visas for India. | |||
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"It's nice to see a positive thread for once , more power to your optimism OP. Mx " Thank you. The point was to try and say the positive approach is better for all. But it is hard work. I will keep trying in the hope that people might smile. | |||
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"He said economic growth was his priority. The route those stupid Tories took us down after the referendum is costing us £100 billion a year. Now we’re getting something more pragmatic that will undo a lot of the red tape that the Tories wrapped us in "Labour have made some mistakes, but they are trying and I think are on the right track. And I do believe we all will be better off. | |||
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"The blokes a complete wanker tbh now giving away our fishing rights to the E.U rightly or wrongly he trying to get the U.K back into the E.U by the back door maybe if he gave the heating allowance back to the pensioner's then he might get people back on side " Giving our fishing rights away? Or continuing what the great Bozo negotiated? A closer relationship with Europe makes sense both financially and co operation wise. The heating allowance is a separate issue. | |||
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"The blokes a complete wanker tbh now giving away our fishing rights to the E.U rightly or wrongly he trying to get the U.K back into the E.U by the back door maybe if he gave the heating allowance back to the pensioner's then he might get people back on side " A deal was negotiated between two parties. In negotiations both sides offer something that is beneficial to the other side, that is what you have to do to agree a deal. Our fishing rights; there is nearly zero ownership of the British fishing fleet, owned by British owners. I belive over 80% of the fish caught in UK waters go to the European market. So please explain what we have given away? | |||
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"The blokes a complete wanker tbh now giving away our fishing rights to the E.U rightly or wrongly he trying to get the U.K back into the E.U by the back door maybe if he gave the heating allowance back to the pensioner's then he might get people back on side " Couldn't agree more
we voted theses idiots in shame we cant vote the buggers out ! | |||
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" … Jumped-up Little Englanders still with a huge chip on their shoulder about Johnny Foreigner. No doubt all middle-class types who've never known poverty in their life… " It’s always best to make pointlessly stereotypical, condescending and sweeping assertions to win influence and burnish your ‘right-on’ credentials on internet forums. Out of interest, are you still in Sitges chugging on your red wine or back in the People’s Socialist Utopia of Central Bristol, as you opine on left-behind small-town Britain and the motivations of others..? | |||
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"If you are saying I detest these flag-shagging Brexiteer types, the ones who are not content with shooting us all in one foot but want to shoot us in both feet, you'd be absolutely right." And on cue, like one of Pavlov’s dogs, you make the same lazy, sneery judgments. | |||
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"After 10 years of your Farage-inspired shitshow, I'm quite entitled to form a judgement about the calibre of people who foisted their ideological idiocy on us - and the huge chip on the shoulder that they still possess." All the "winning" must leave a huge chip. Eloquently put Ms Jevo. | |||
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" … Jumped-up Little Englanders still with a huge chip on their shoulder about Johnny Foreigner. No doubt all middle-class types who've never known poverty in their life… It’s always best to make pointlessly stereotypical, condescending and sweeping assertions to win influence and burnish your ‘right-on’ credentials on internet forums. Out of interest, are you still in Sitges chugging on your red wine or back in the People’s Socialist Utopia of Central Bristol, as you opine on left-behind small-town Britain and the motivations of others..? " .. ... ... .. . Assertions? Hardly. The evidence is frankly obvious re the chips. Anyone who engages with social media should know this for starters. Ironic that you indulge in a spot of condescending stereotyping re Bristol...Lol bruv. Tears etc. What's your experience on small town life on this island? Sara couldn't care less about currying (sic) favour. She operates with sincerity. Mucho 🤣 👍 | |||
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"If you are saying I detest these flag-shagging Brexiteer types, the ones who are not content with shooting us all in one foot but want to shoot us in both feet, you'd be absolutely right. And on cue, like one of Pavlov’s dogs, you make the same lazy, sneery judgments. " | |||
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"Retail sales volumes rose by 1.2% in April, well above City forecasts of an increase of between 0.2% and 0.4%, marking the fourth straight month of sales growth." And inflation at 3.5% ie higher than Labour inherited from the Tories. | |||
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"Retail sales volumes rose by 1.2% in April, well above City forecasts of an increase of between 0.2% and 0.4%, marking the fourth straight month of sales growth. And inflation at 3.5% ie higher than Labour inherited from the Tories. " No where near where it was under Truss though. | |||
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"Retail sales volumes rose by 1.2% in April, well above City forecasts of an increase of between 0.2% and 0.4%, marking the fourth straight month of sales growth. And inflation at 3.5% ie higher than Labour inherited from the Tories. No where near where it was under Truss though." .... ... ... This decade it peaked at 9.6% in October 2022.... | |||
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"Retail sales volumes rose by 1.2% in April, well above City forecasts of an increase of between 0.2% and 0.4%, marking the fourth straight month of sales growth. And inflation at 3.5% ie higher than Labour inherited from the Tories. No where near where it was under Truss though. .... ... ... This decade it peaked at 9.6% in October 2022...." Which it is accepted was largely driven by the rises in fuel prices due to Putin invading Ukriane. Take that out of the equation and make a comparison. | |||
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"Reasons for the sharp increase include a regulated rise in household bills. Water bills have increased. The increase in wholesale gas prices has come into play. Source: Economics Observatory. (Independent analysis as opposed to partisan discourse from tories and those who don't vote Labour) " Whilst I would not question that I have notice food prices in the supermarkets continue to rise. Could be a knock-on effect of gas and water prices rising. Or maybe not. | |||
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"Reasons for the sharp increase include a regulated rise in household bills. Water bills have increased. The increase in wholesale gas prices has come into play. Source: Economics Observatory. (Independent analysis as opposed to partisan discourse from tories and those who don't vote Labour) Whilst I would not question that I have notice food prices in the supermarkets continue to rise. Could be a knock-on effect of gas and water prices rising. Or maybe not." ... .. Independent analysis as mentioned..... Seems worthwhile taking it onboard... | |||
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"'Idiots'... 🤔" Mate great cock love to suck that mmm Brexit/economic boom whatever Fuck my mouth man hehe mmm | |||
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"It was a flat statement. Any comparison to the current figure might well be problematic. What's your thinking re the reasons for the current figure?" A flat statement... 3.5% #justsaying | |||
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"Some of the economic growth might be down to other Labour policy. There was an article recently about the older generation spending big on fancy holidays abroad, and other big ticket items. Seems that recent changes in taxation policy have persuaded people to spend rather than lose out. If it was planned it's quite a smart move by Labour, to push people to spend. It might be a one time hit though. " How does encouraging people to take fancy holidays abroad (and spend their money there) help the UK economy. With respect I think you might be over-thinking it | |||
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"Some of the economic growth might be down to other Labour policy. There was an article recently about the older generation spending big on fancy holidays abroad, and other big ticket items. Seems that recent changes in taxation policy have persuaded people to spend rather than lose out. If it was planned it's quite a smart move by Labour, to push people to spend. It might be a one time hit though. How does encouraging people to take fancy holidays abroad (and spend their money there) help the UK economy. With respect I think you might be over-thinking it" A big chunk goes to the operators of these fancy packages. I couldn't believe how much a friend paid for an eco holiday package. It was tens of thousands for the family. But it could be wrong, just speculation. | |||
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"Some of the economic growth might be down to other Labour policy. There was an article recently about the older generation spending big on fancy holidays abroad, and other big ticket items. Seems that recent changes in taxation policy have persuaded people to spend rather than lose out. If it was planned it's quite a smart move by Labour, to push people to spend. It might be a one time hit though. How does encouraging people to take fancy holidays abroad (and spend their money there) help the UK economy. With respect I think you might be over-thinking it" Unless they've evolved to have wings they have to pay for flights. Airports are massive employers. I can't believe this needs explaining!! They also said other big ticket items....which you know also contributes to the economy | |||
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"For clarity (although it had nothing to do with the point of the thread) I have voted for all the major parties in the past. I have not voted for reform, ukip or any other party, that I believe damages this country. As for Brexit, it was and is harming this country. The point of the thread was to get all of us to take a positive attitude, which will help, the green shoots of an economic revival grow. " My sincere apologies for the Reform / Brexiter slur. I had got so used to gammons preaching about how great things are going, that the red mist descended a bit too early... | |||
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"Some of the economic growth might be down to other Labour policy. There was an article recently about the older generation spending big on fancy holidays abroad, and other big ticket items. Seems that recent changes in taxation policy have persuaded people to spend rather than lose out. If it was planned it's quite a smart move by Labour, to push people to spend. It might be a one time hit though. How does encouraging people to take fancy holidays abroad (and spend their money there) help the UK economy. With respect I think you might be over-thinking it Unless they've evolved to have wings they have to pay for flights. Airports are massive employers. I can't believe this needs explaining!! They also said other big ticket items....which you know also contributes to the economy "Yep... I recently spent £160 on a flight, and over £1500 abroad on Airbnb, car hire, food etc.... I think others benefited far more than the UK tbh!! | |||
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"It was a flat statement. Any comparison to the current figure might well be problematic. What's your thinking re the reasons for the current figure? A flat statement... 3.5% #justsaying" ... ... So few words yet saying so much.... #number | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." We're still waiting! "overall productivity has fallen, and recent months have seen slowing growth and softening labour market conditions. Inflation remains above the Bank of England's target." | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." Oh dear  | |||
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" Farmers selling off land because of inheritance tax You mean they are getting even RICHER?
Good ole Sara. Your knowledge of farming could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still leave room for the Lord's Prayer and your weekly shopping list " | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." Did I _iss the 'economic boon'? | |||
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" Did I _iss the 'economic boon'?" According to the OP, should have been around July. You weren't the only one to miss it | |||
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" Did I _iss the 'economic boon'? According to the OP, should have been around July. You weren't the only one to miss it "Yes, unless it happened during one of my blinks | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times." Whatever you're smoking, stop now, it's gone far too far. | |||
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"You are Sadly mistaken Business hit with national insurance hike, Everyone paying more on utility bills and council tax Farmers selling off land because of inheritance tax I could go on but simply cannot see how things are changing for the best, id like a pint of whatever your drinking ! "Yes the Reform councils seem to be putting up council tax by the maximum amount. Although I haven’t seen any evidence of farmers selling land. Maybe it’s the business men who bought it for tax avoidance. | |||
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" … One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change..." I think you must have missed sending that bit of the memo to Rachel Reeves who’s spent the last few months gloomcasting herself into a corner. It’s almost as if the absolute opposite to your confident prediction has happened. Less Baba Vanga and more Barbapapa. | |||
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" … One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change... I think you must have missed sending that bit of the memo to Rachel Reeves who’s spent the last few months gloomcasting herself into a corner. It’s almost as if the absolute opposite to your confident prediction has happened. Less Baba Vanga and more Barbapapa. " I 100% agree. I said in another thread that Labour have made a mess of presenting their policies. That negativity and the negative attitude of many persons on forums like this also contribute to an update in the economy. Out of interest can you explain the attitude of the population that causes an economic upturn? | |||
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"The UK is on the verge of a economic boom. There are increases in retail sales and the economy points to things getting better this year. The same goes for the EU. I wil I am not mad, and am sure within 3 months I will be saying, told you so. One of the most important factors to a booming economic future, is a positive attitude from the public. So please, all of you stop moning and try acting in a positive manner, for a change. It will be the first time in nearly 20 years, that we can look forward to better times. Whatever you're smoking, stop now, it's gone far too far. " 👇👇👇 | |||
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"Who is this cunt "If you're just slinging random insults it'd probably be good for the rest of us to have more than four zero-effort words so as to know to whom you refer. But I know that's a completely unrealistic expectation on an internet forum | |||
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"Well you never see a farmer on a bike x You hardly ever see one on a tractor either. They hire contractors for the actual farming. But the main gainers are their accountants. Boom coming? PMSL. Surprised you don't in rural Norfolk. Plenty of farmers on tractors around here. Plus driving around in ancient landrovers and clapped out pick-up trucks. I suspect that's not farmers (or not the big ones) - but contractors and farmworkers. Ancient landrovers are pretty thin on the ground round here - Hilux is a popular brand. Admittedly also bought by ex-Londoners overdoing the Country Life act." Ancient Land Rovers never die. I use my 1959 series 2 diesel to get get my papers every morning or my 1982 Mini Pick up. Both have their original canvas hoods. The key to old vehicles is storing them inside. | |||
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