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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮" Now I did "fab" a "Gimp" mask, but it certainly wasn't him. Any idea who has a gimp mask ![]() | |||
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"Shouldn't he be doing his proper job?" Now; if you had been watching his show, he explained that he was away for 2 months assisting and supporting the English elections and how well did his party do? Very well, wouldn't you agree | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮" I wonder why there was a milkshake shortage in Staffordshire today | |||
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"GB News Tuesday 3rd June - 7pm Nigel Farage is back A full hour show, great viewing. Plus a fantastic week with Presenters including; Eamonn Holmes Nigel Farage Jacob Rees-Mogg Michelle Dewberry Patrick Christys Nana Akua Stephen Dixon Anne Diamond Ellie Costello Why watch any other channel, except maybe Sky News from time to time. Remember to tune in at 7pm" ....the man we've all been waiting for...?...snigger | |||
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"Ironing; Watching paint dry; Washing hair; Wearing gimp mask; Standing outside in the rain We have lots of lovely interests on this forum, lots of interesting people indeed Any other interesting hobbies " knitting willy warmers for our old age pensioners on here | |||
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"GB News Tuesday 3rd June - 7pm Nigel Farage is back A full hour show, great viewing. Plus a fantastic week with Presenters including; Eamonn Holmes Nigel Farage Jacob Rees-Mogg Michelle Dewberry Patrick Christys Nana Akua Stephen Dixon Anne Diamond Ellie Costello Why watch any other channel, except maybe Sky News from time to time. Remember to tune in at 7pm" Yawn...you must have such a boring life ![]() | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults" Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮I wonder why there was a milkshake shortage in Staffordshire today " It's certainly not due to an excess of branches of Five Guys. 🥤 | |||
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"The elections are over, he should be doing his job, the one he was elected to do, not all his little side hustles " GB News break; Next on with Nigel is a debate on flying the silly Pride Flag for a month. I'm sure Nigel will give us his wisdom on this Channel 236 right now | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school " ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha " I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel? | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel?" Not as successful as Ed Davey, Kemi or Keir | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel?" ...unlike you...I have no access to anyone else's bank account...just my own. Do you two discuss each other's financial situation on a regular basis...? | |||
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"Ironing; Watching paint dry; Washing hair; Wearing gimp mask; Standing outside in the rain We have lots of lovely interests on this forum, lots of interesting people indeed Any other interesting hobbies " my new hobby wiping my arse in reforms manifesto, And by the way have you read it | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion." A well-observed and, in my own view, totally accurate analysis. | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮" Aghhh... That's what I like about the political insight on fab, intelligent, informed comment... without having to resort to personal insults! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel?" I can not believe that anyone could come on a gay site and support a man that's anti gay, He even wants to take us out of the ECHR read the reform manifesto | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion." Yes it’s all true, and very worrying. The human rights act and the International Court of Human Rights is in his manifesto, and will be replaced. section 28 was imposed by a Right Winger, so expect something along those lines. NF is not your friend. | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() Awww Poor diddums, Are you saying people have no BackBone and can't stand up for themselves? Our Nigel is fighting to support North Sea Assets, fishing, North Sea Oil and Gas production and exploration, 200,000 related oil & gas jobs, that's 100,000 direct and another 100,000 in support and supplies. Nigel will ensure all pensioners will get winter fuel payments, So, what are its other policies? Here is a summary: NHS and social care Tax and spending Economy Environment Energy and net zero Education and childcare Defence Pensions and welfare Policing and crime Migration Brexit Families Transport Constitution and culture NHS and social care Cut NHS waiting lists to zero in two years Income tax exemption for front-line workers Tax relief on private healthcare and insurance Public inquiry into excess Covid deaths and vaccine harm Review of all NHS private contracts Tax and spending Raise minimum income tax threshold Scrap stamp duty on properties under £750,000 Inheritance tax abolished for estates under £2 million Scrap VAT on energy bills Reduce Government spending Half foreign aid budget Economy Reduce corporation tax Abolish IR35 rules Scrap business rates for small and medium firms Raise VAT threshold Environment Nationalise utility companies Fast track brownfield development sites Increase farming budget Rebuild fishing processes Energy and net zero Abandon existing carbon emission targets Accelerate North Sea oil and gas licences Scrap annual green energy subsidies Speed up clean nuclear energy minister Defence Invest in housing for Armed Forces Upgrade Office for Veterans’ Affairs Free education for troops and veterans Basic pay increase New Armed Forces Justice Bill Increase defence spending Recruit 30,000 new soldiers Policing and crime Increase police numbers Enforcement of “zero tolerance” policing Review of police leadership teams Abolish all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and regulations Automatic life imprisonment for violent offenders High-intensity training camps for young offenders Deport child groomers with dual nationality Migration Immigration tax Leave European Convention on Human Rights Freeze “non-essential” migration Abolish Home Office Reduce student visas Ban new arrivals from receiving benefits Brexit Axe all remaining EU laws Scrap the Windsor Framework Renegotiate Brexit trade deal Families Marriage tax allowance on income up to £25,000 “Frontload” benefits system to allow mothers to stay at home Promote development of child-friendly smartphones Inquiry into social media harms Transport Scrap HS2 Ban Ulez Axe 2035 ban on sale of new petrol and diesel cars Outlaw creation of 20mph zones Bring 50 per cent of utilities companies into public ownership Constitution and culture Scrap the TV licence Introduce free speech bill to prevent political bias in public institutions Make St George’s Day a bank holiday Make the House of Lords more democratic Reform postal voting to tackle fraud Quit the WHO unless it undergoes fundamental restructuring . . . That's why I support Nigel Farage, all of the above, so what if you won't get to fly a silly little rainbow flag for a full month, all of the above are far more important. | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. That's why I support Nigel Farage, all of the above, so what if you won't get to fly a silly little rainbow flag for a full month, all of the above are far more important. " Well done for showing your complete ignorance of the protections in law that Herr Farage wants to remove from users of this site (and many others with protected characteristics). | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() Read in Full, and comment on each point, don't pick and fabricate a reply as we know your beat if you do ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion." ...reform have five seats...sinn fein have 7...just saying | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion....reform have five seats...sinn fein have 7...just saying " “There is no place for arrogance or complacency in politics because you are up there one minute and on your backside the next.” ![]() | |||
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"I’ll be tidying my sock draw." Do you know that if you've managed to accumulate 50 pairs of socks, and they've all become split up, there are 1225 ways of selecting a matching pair, of which only 50 will be correct? This assumes of course that every pair is distinct from every other: design, colour, length, material, thickness, texture ... Socks are a favourite obsession of those who take an interest in problems of probability. Many of these concern someone who is awoken by an emergency in the middle of the night when the lights have failed, and has to rummage in the sock drawer, and pose the question of how many socks he/she must pick out to be able to secure a matching pair. Others prefer questions featuring hands of playing cards, but i'm a sock man myself. This is all an excellent argument for bulk buying one uniform all-season sock. i believe Gilbert and George do this with their suits. Alternatively, one could just be daring, defy all the critics, throw off the shackles of convention, and adopt a policy of picking up any two damn socks that come to hand. Someone who has only one leg doesn't have to face these problems, of course. i suppose it goes to show that no life is without its consolations. | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion....reform have five seats...sinn fein have 7...just saying “There is no place for arrogance or complacency in politics because you are up there one minute and on your backside the next.” ![]() ...in nigels case..he seems to be firmly wedged up his own backside... | |||
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"I find it hard to agree with Nigel. I find it even harder to like him. But, the changes (for good or bad (delete as appropriate)) that he has been the genesis for, is astonishing… for one man. Why? Despite all the complaining about him, whether in here, on the street, in the pub, in parliament, Tory party, Labour party… not one individual has come forward able to provide a match to him, let alone an ‘antidote’ to him. Again, agree or disagree, he nonetheless seems much more able to connect with vast swathes of voters who claim they feel let down, ignored, undermined, etc by the traditional political parties. I’m not saying he is the right answer, nor is offering the right answers (in my view), but the complacent and we-know-best traditional politicians have made it so easy for him… and even after a decade of what should’ve been listening & learning from Brexit, they (astonishingly) continue to make it easy for him… again and again!!! So, I don't blame Nigel, as he is the inevitable by-product of decades of an aloof political class. Neither do I blame the public who support him, as they’re just desperate for their problems to be a priority (rather than seemingly imaginary problems or other’s problems). So, I blame decades of career politicians who seem to exist in an academic / ideological echo chamber: Telling us how it should be, with little understanding of how it is, nor listening to what the voters actually want / believe, and with very few real-world skills or experiences between them. If any one of the traditional parties could actually demonstrate they're genuinely listening and then go on to serve the nation, rather than impose their narrow and outdated ideologies, then Nigel would quickly fade into irrelevance. Alas though, and given Nigel continues to surge in the Polls, Labour and Tories rather seem set on adopting the USA Democrats approach to Trump; of trying to ridicule, bully, and dismiss Nigel (and his supporters). I fear they’ll get the same result: Thus, Nigel as PM in a few years has never been more likely… in my opinion....reform have five seats...sinn fein have 7...just saying " Whys everyone so worried then? Whys everyone shitting bricks? There's nothing to worry about but everyone seems oh so upset, Poor diddums | |||
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"...Why watch any other channel, except maybe Sky News from time to time..." Why watch any of them? They all talk utter s*ite! When will people wake up to the fact that it's the multinationals who decide government policy now, regardless of who's in, and that they only continue with the charade of elections to give us the impression that voting will actually change anything significant. Why do you think there's so little difference between the policies of all the parties? How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving! | |||
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"...reform have five seats...sinn fein have 7...just saying… " Will Sinn Fein be standing in all the seats in England, Scotland and Wales at the GE of 2029..? This is news. | |||
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" Nigel becoming PM in a few years time-2029- is still unlikely. " Very unlikely. He needs to go from 5 seats to over 325 seats. That requires effort to be concentrated on the most winnable seats. The reality is he draws 2/3rds of his support from disaffected Tory voters and 1/3rd from disaffected Labour voters. So he can pull down their vote share. But vote share doesn't win elections - constituency seats do. And the idea his support is concentrated enough to win 325 + . . . . I cannot see that happening any time soon. | |||
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"Sound analysis Sara. Alas, it won't stop the hyperbole on social media and sections of the media. The comparison with Trump prevailing overlooks the binary nature of a US Presidential Election in contrast to the participation of several parties in a UK election. " The defection of so many Tory voters in 2024 to Reform Limited was a significant factor in serving up a landslide for Labour. It will be interesting to see the results of the by/election in Hamilton, especially after Herr Farage deployed his “P*aki-bashing” rhetoric. He thrives on division and resentment. | |||
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"Sound analysis Sara. Alas, it won't stop the hyperbole on social media and sections of the media. The comparison with Trump prevailing overlooks the binary nature of a US Presidential Election in contrast to the participation of several parties in a UK election. The defection of so many Tory voters in 2024 to Reform Limited was a significant factor in serving up a landslide for Labour. It will be interesting to see the results of the by/election in Hamilton, especially after Herr Farage deployed his “P*aki-bashing” rhetoric. He thrives on division and resentment." On the Hamilton by election he ran away from a hustings meeting as he didn't want to face the demonstration outside it and have the optics of this splashed all over the news. Not only a carpet bagging con man but a political coward too. Other than the idiots and hard of thinking his actual popularity is fragile, he can't win and knows it. Mx ![]() | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮 Aghhh... That's what I like about the political insight on fab, intelligent, informed comment... without having to resort to personal insults! ![]() ![]() You didn't like that one? Because I have others. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If Blair and his minions had paid some attention to the UKIP results and support in the early 2000s and made some adjustments to freedom of movement rules...we'd still be in the EU and Farage would be nowhere. Middle-class liberals on here think just finding Farage funny is the solution. It's not worked so far, has it? Mind you, you probably find 'Have I Got News For You' and 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue' funny. Take your sneering into a working man's pub somewhere where they don't work from home and were never on furlough. Tell your Farage 'jokes' and see how hilarious they find you." I don't find him the slightest bit funny. I think he's extremely dangerous. | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel?" I don’t have the large following or broadcast to millions, but besides that I reckon I am, and it’s mine, not someone else’s. He’s a politician. He says what people want to hear. The proof of the pudding will be when he’s elected into power, until then hes done nothing | |||
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"If Blair and his minions had paid some attention to the UKIP results and support in the early 2000s and made some adjustments to freedom of movement rules...we'd still be in the EU and Farage would be nowhere. Middle-class liberals on here think just finding Farage funny is the solution. It's not worked so far, has it? Mind you, you probably find 'Have I Got News For You' and 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue' funny. Take your sneering into a working man's pub somewhere where they don't work from home and were never on furlough. Tell your Farage 'jokes' and see how hilarious they find you. I don't find him the slightest bit funny. I think he's extremely dangerous." Funny, dangerous...choose your own adjective...you know the point I'm making. Politicians of all parties have spent the last 20/30 years hoping he'd just go away rather than look at the MEP election results that UKIP often did well in and act accordingly. | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() You should ask your father in law to get out his calculator and get him to tell you how much this will cost you. You'll have to pawn a few of your lovely watches. | |||
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"If Blair and his minions had paid some attention to the UKIP results and support in the early 2000s and made some adjustments to freedom of movement rules...we'd still be in the EU and Farage would be nowhere. Middle-class liberals on here think just finding Farage funny is the solution. It's not worked so far, has it? Mind you, you probably find 'Have I Got News For You' and 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue' funny. Take your sneering into a working man's pub somewhere where they don't work from home and were never on furlough. Tell your Farage 'jokes' and see how hilarious they find you." .... ... .. .... The middle class/liberal tautology is speculation. Criticism from working class posters towards NF would ironically focus on the same themes as offered by any middle class critic. More speculation re viewing choices.... In terms of working mens pubs, does one frequent them? | |||
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"Private jet from Glasgow to London. Man of the people. Aye right" As long as he or the party paid for the jet exactly what is the problem ? Does “man of the people” starmer walk everywhere ? | |||
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"Private jet from Glasgow to London. Man of the people. Aye right As long as he or the party paid for the jet exactly what is the problem ? Does “man of the people” starmer walk everywhere ?" No, but everyone else gets slagged off for it, so why shouldn't Farage. | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school ....some people are taken in by Englishmen with plummy accents, it doesn't seem to matter to you people that they're absolute idiots...who can forget jrm's "Australian model "...hahaha I think he is doing far better than most, very successful life Successful large following Nice healthy bank account And broadcasting to millions Anyone else here as successful as Nigel? I don’t have the large following or broadcast to millions, but besides that I reckon I am, and it’s mine, not someone else’s. He’s a politician. He says what people want to hear. The proof of the pudding will be when he’s elected into power, until then hes done nothing " Not quite true... NF may not win at FPTP... however, he has the ability to influence policy and even change other party leaders by robbing them of votes; he is a populist and is very good at it. The other parties run in fear of him and it certainly contains their excesses! NF holds the banner for the disallusioned protest voter... so let's be thankful we have him ![]() | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() ![]() ![]() I won't comment on each point as they are sound bites not policies , they have zero finance to enact even a quarter of them. And he's not fighting he's manipulating and spreading propaganda paid for by a variety of overseas interests. Including the oil industry and American health industry who want a review of private NHS contracts so that they can take them over and sue UK under TTP rules. Starmer is a MI5 plant. But Farage is not encumbered by any such notion of national loyalty. He's serving his masters interests and will kiss baby bottoms or anyone else's to get what they want. People do not want him. But you would be hard put to find the newspaper articles that looks at the polls and points out that his demographic is overwhelmingly older white males and those with less than A level education. The fastest growing support in UK is for left wing politics and that's not just younger women they are simply the most marked in swing. The polls that look at where people want to see politics focus , is not immigrants , it's cost of living, and the left (and greens) are overwhelmingly the most trusted to effect change in that area. MI5 may have decided a split Tory reform govt in three years is the way forward for business as usual. But if asked that's not what people want. It is however the only option they are being presented with in mainstream media. | |||
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"Of course he's insulting to his supporters Mr Flower! Low-grade people he wouldn't have a drink with I think he once said. Do you think people support him out of choice? No! It's because Labour have moved on and kicked working people to the kerb! Farage is the only card left to play." Very true, people are voting for him, as they've ran out of options | |||
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"Private jet from Glasgow to London. Man of the people. Aye right" Your enemy travels by Learjet, not by dinghy ![]() | |||
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"Of course he's insulting to his supporters Mr Flower! Low-grade people he wouldn't have a drink with I think he once said. Do you think people support him out of choice? No! It's because Labour have moved on and kicked working people to the kerb! Farage is the only card left to play. Very true, people are voting for him, as they've ran out of options" Racist and homophobic bigots are not an option imho. | |||
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"Shouldn't he be doing his proper job? Now; if you had been watching his show, he explained that he was away for 2 months assisting and supporting the English elections and how well did his party do? Very well, wouldn't you agree" Just so many thick people. | |||
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"You think Farage isn't condescending to people with his fake man of the people schtick? It's insulting! This would be an example of a Logical Fallacy. Cathy Newman would be so proud. ![]() I have no idea who Cathy Newman is and I stand by my statement. The man is an utter charlatan and as establishment as they come. If you disagree, explain why. | |||
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"You think Farage isn't condescending to people with his fake man of the people schtick? It's insulting! This would be an example of a Logical Fallacy. Cathy Newman would be so proud. ![]() I think people are tired of condescension. The logical fallacy would be you assuming that I must therefore believe that Farage is not also condescending. Cathy Newman is a C4 news presenter infamous for her "so what you are saying is" attempts to misrepresent an interviewee. | |||
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"You think Farage isn't condescending to people with his fake man of the people schtick? It's insulting! This would be an example of a Logical Fallacy. Cathy Newman would be so proud. ![]() I always thought Howdie patented that one. No, I believe that you do think that Farage isn't condescending. I just can't comprehend how. It was more a statement of disbelief. | |||
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"If Blair and his minions had paid some attention to the UKIP results and support in the early 2000s and made some adjustments to freedom of movement rules...we'd still be in the EU and Farage would be nowhere. Middle-class liberals on here think just finding Farage funny is the solution. It's not worked so far, has it? Mind you, you probably find 'Have I Got News For You' and 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue' funny. Take your sneering into a working man's pub somewhere where they don't work from home and were never on furlough. Tell your Farage 'jokes' and see how hilarious they find you." Captures the point. So many are now living in a “middle-class bubble” where, within their circle of friends, they reassure each other that they’re “progressive” and enlightened, whilst everyone else is merely “populist” (or ignorant). What is not obvious to them, and as the May elections demonstrated, is that the bubble is bursting. What was inconceivable, just a year ago, is now a real enough threat… otherwise, why are all politicians, even Labour, now ‘turning right’; evidenced by Labour using previously unthinkable language about benefit claimants, immigrants, 2 child households, pensioners, budget-cuts, etc! In doing so, the “progressives” are utterly ignoring those wrestling with the real impact of the cost-of-living crisis, who see their communities changing rapidly, and who are on the sharp end of fuel / benefit cuts etc. On the other end of the wealth spectrum, they’re being hammered (again and again) for daring to have ambition and be successful, evidenced by a 153% increase in millionaires leaving the UK in 2024 (10,800 (the top 90 (yes, just 90) of whom have a combined wealth of £50bn)) compared to 2023 (4,200). As I wrote originally… so don't get me wrong… I personally do not like Farage, and I’m not impressed with his solutions, but if you think you are safe in your “bubble”, and that you can ignore him, and more importantly ignore his growing number of supporters, is to pour fuel into his tank. So, I foresee complacency being the undoing of the so called “progressives”. The only antidote, is for traditional politicians to come down from their theological towers and sniff the real air we breathe. Sadly though, as the US Democrats demonstrated, it seems unlikely to happen, thus they end up paving the way for Trump / Farage. | |||
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"Of course he's insulting to his supporters Mr Flower! Low-grade people he wouldn't have a drink with I think he once said. Do you think people support him out of choice? No! It's because Labour have moved on and kicked working people to the kerb! Farage is the only card left to play. Very true, people are voting for him, as they've ran out of options That's an interesting point. Is he just a more effective protest vote? " I think he is just a more effective protest vote and he knows it. Mx | |||
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"You think Farage isn't condescending to people with his fake man of the people schtick? It's insulting! This would be an example of a Logical Fallacy. Cathy Newman would be so proud. ![]() I've never claimed to be old or new anything but yes, I see myself as a working class male. I've just rocked up at work for my afternoon shift and I earn significantly less than the national average. I'm not on the breadline as I live pretty frugally and managing personal finance is probably the best developed life skill I have but I'm always conscious that if I were to lose my job, things could unravel very quickly. I grew up under Thatcher and saw my mum and my older brother out of work for a long time under her policies and even putting aside all the bigotry and culture war nonsense for a moment, no I don't understand how working class people see a Thatcherite party like Reform as the answer unless they just aren't looking past the soundbites at what lurks beneath. I'm not going to pretend that Labour are doing things very well and the best I can offer is that I don't think they're going any worse than before the election last year. Perhaps I can keep you updated on how things go here in Staffordshire seeing as Reform now have control of the County Council? So far, all they've done is try and censor the county libraries, put up a giant picture of the Dear Leader and cancelled every scheduled council meeting. Very effective, I'm sure. | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮" . I'm sure he feels the same about you, as we all do 🫣 | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮. I'm sure he feels the same about you, as we all do 🫣" Claiming to speak for everyone yet again Dave? How very arrogant of you. No doubt still deliberately misrepresenting the word majority, too. Oh and we know your thoughts on working class people. "They're always trying to screw us over" Those were your exact words, so who is this 'us' that you think you belong to? | |||
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"Well to answer your question why. Working class people vote for Tories or reform? And by the way I hate phrase working class. It's bosses working hard that keeps rest in jobs... But... If you look at the history of labour in power over the last 50;years and less they left us in, particularly the last time on brink of collapse, you will know why we fear and hate labour. And looking at last 9 months, nothing has changed, spend spend spend. And tax. Tax. Tax. It will end sadly as history has proven" Dave, the man who sees his employees not as an asset to his business but as a hindrance to his own accumulation of personal wealth. WWJD? Something else, almost certainly. | |||
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"Funnily enough, I haven’t actually been waiting for him, unlike his constituency. " I spilled my coffee 😂😂😂😂. Nice 👍. Mx 😜 | |||
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"Fair enough Mr Flower and I'd also consider myself a working class male. Old Labour. Sort of. Just above minimum wage. Like you, things would unravel fast if I lost my job. So why don't Labour stand up for people like us Mr Flower? They just don't! They seem to despise us. Hope you and the boyfriend are doing well! ![]() They should be doing much more, certainly. I disagree at despise but they do seem to have rather forgotten their roots. The Tories were never friends of the working classes and Reform are just an amplified version of that. My biggest problem with them remains that like most people I just want to be left in peace to get on with my life No-one should have to live in fear of discrimination or abuse, just because of who they are but that is exactly what Mr Brown Teeth and his ilk are fomenting. He already bears some culpability for the death of Jo Cox and yet has then spent the years since repeatedly picking fights with her widow, not to mention his disgusting comment about 'without a shot being fired' less than a week after her murder. Those aren't the actions of a merely unpleasant man, it's downright evil. | |||
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"Well to answer your question why. Working class people vote for Tories or reform? And by the way I hate phrase working class. It's bosses working hard that keeps rest in jobs... But... If you look at the history of labour in power over the last 50;years and less they left us in, particularly the last time on brink of collapse, you will know why we fear and hate labour. And looking at last 9 months, nothing has changed, spend spend spend. And tax. Tax. Tax. It will end sadly as history has proven" Still blind to the fact that last time Labour were in there was actually a world wide banking crash and many western leaders praised Gordon brown for his handling of it and did the same. The mess the country is in now is not labours fault, its 14 years of shit government that have left us with full prisons, crumbling infrastructure, not enough armed forces or health working or police. But don't let facts get in the way mate. | |||
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"Well to answer your question why. Working class people vote for Tories or reform? And by the way I hate phrase working class. It's bosses working hard that keeps rest in jobs... But... If you look at the history of labour in power over the last 50;years and less they left us in, particularly the last time on brink of collapse, you will know why we fear and hate labour. And looking at last 9 months, nothing has changed, spend spend spend. And tax. Tax. Tax. It will end sadly as history has proven Still blind to the fact that last time Labour were in there was actually a world wide banking crash and many western leaders praised Gordon brown for his handling of it and did the same. The mess the country is in now is not labours fault, its 14 years of shit government that have left us with full prisons, crumbling infrastructure, not enough armed forces or health working or police. But don't let facts get in the way mate. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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""Rather forgotten their roots"? You're too generous Mr Flower." I have a gift for understatement. ![]() | |||
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""Rather forgotten their roots"? You're too generous Mr Flower. I have a gift for understatement. ![]() It seems so. The thing is, you see me and people who think like me as an enemy when for the most part we agree with each other. | |||
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"You like Father Ted, you can't be all bad. ![]() Careful now! ![]() | |||
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"There are some profiles that just make you boak..... Indeed there are" 😂. Mx 😜 | |||
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"There are some profiles that just make you boak..... Indeed there are" The ones of a well-used arse taken in a bathroom that needs cleaning do make me a little queasy. | |||
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"He was in Staffordshire (nowhere near Clacton) this morning. No wonder I felt queasy with that toad faced, racist gimp nearby. 🤮" Hey, don't tar all gimps.withxthe same brush! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"GB News Tuesday 3rd June - 7pm Nigel Farage is back A full hour show, great viewing. Plus a fantastic week with Presenters including; Eamonn Holmes Nigel Farage Jacob Rees-Mogg Michelle Dewberry Patrick Christys Nana Akua Stephen Dixon Anne Diamond Ellie Costello Why watch any other channel, except maybe Sky News from time to time. Remember to tune in at 7pm" Why is Nigel Flange fannying around on TV ? He was elected to serve his constituents. What a cunt. | |||
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"Well to answer your question why. Working class people vote for Tories or reform? And by the way I hate phrase working class. It's bosses working hard that keeps rest in jobs... But... If you look at the history of labour in power over the last 50;years and less they left us in, particularly the last time on brink of collapse, you will know why we fear and hate labour. And looking at last 9 months, nothing has changed, spend spend spend. And tax. Tax. Tax. It will end sadly as history has proven Still blind to the fact that last time Labour were in there was actually a world wide banking crash and many western leaders praised Gordon brown for his handling of it and did the same. The mess the country is in now is not labours fault, its 14 years of shit government that have left us with full prisons, crumbling infrastructure, not enough armed forces or health working or police. But don't let facts get in the way mate. " . If you believe that, your deeper in life's dh#@£#te than we thought you were. Labour left the UK on edge of bankruptcy, when bank crisis hit up UK were so far behind the rest of Europe it took years of strict Tories cuts to recover. Strange out you put so much importance on a band crisis and yet do not accept the Tories facing global energy crisis, European war, initial hit for Brexit, the COVID pandemic, and billions of pounds spend on keeping people safe at home and protecting industry. Typical blinkered laborite. And now labour are on yet another tax tax tax, spend spend spent spree. Who picks up the bill this time ???? | |||
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"Well this certainly stirred up the haters including those who cannot progress beyond simple personal insults Be gentle it's the best some can do, and gives me fond memories of primary school " Primary school? Sounds to more like kindergarten level. | |||
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"Well to answer your question why. Working class people vote for Tories or reform? And by the way I hate phrase working class. It's bosses working hard that keeps rest in jobs... But... If you look at the history of labour in power over the last 50;years and less they left us in, particularly the last time on brink of collapse, you will know why we fear and hate labour. And looking at last 9 months, nothing has changed, spend spend spend. And tax. Tax. Tax. It will end sadly as history has proven Still blind to the fact that last time Labour were in there was actually a world wide banking crash and many western leaders praised Gordon brown for his handling of it and did the same. The mess the country is in now is not labours fault, its 14 years of shit government that have left us with full prisons, crumbling infrastructure, not enough armed forces or health working or police. But don't let facts get in the way mate. ![]() ![]() . Infrastructure doesn't crumble in 14 years lol. Armed forces have been reduced over decades, the rule of thought was technology was prioritised. Health service receive billions over 14 yrs with declining results. 10 months on and we still have ambulances parked outside hospitals. Police have also been heavily funded. Your rant is usual extremes with no facts to support them | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() ![]() ![]() All paid for how? | |||
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" … The ones of a well-used arse taken in a bathroom that needs cleaning do make me a little queasy... " If that was in a declining language, I’d be able to tell if you meant the well-used arse or the bathroom needs cleaning… which were you implying..? | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() ![]() ![]() ...probably like trump..."one big beautiful bill"...hahaha | |||
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" All paid for how?" The newstands today tell me that Herr Farage now wants to splurge billions of £s on heating allowances for millionaire pensioners. A week after the newsstands told me that Herr Farage wants to splurge billions of £s on child benefits for everyone. | |||
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"Imagine coming onto a website for gay men and cheerleading a politician who wants to scrap legal protections for, um, er, gay men. ![]() ![]() ![]() Would removing everyone's rights by leaving the ECHR save £350m a week? | |||
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"Hell, not He'll? He'll, He will?" The hell he will! Lol I can't see his weird mug without seeing Bart Simpson. But the Simpsons made far better social comment. ![]() | |||
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" … The ones of a well-used arse taken in a bathroom that needs cleaning do make me a little queasy... If that was in a declining language, I’d be able to tell if you meant the well-used arse or the bathroom needs cleaning… which were you implying..? " Both considering some of the bottoms I see on here! ![]() | |||
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