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"And in my opinion Bob marley and the the wailers yes you may day it was more just bob, are one of the most under rated, a whole library of excellent songs, absolutely change ld the face of music, opened the door for so many people, the messages in the songs, the joy and all done in a very short time" I think the question to ask is "How many young people today are discovering and revering Bob Marley and his music". The answer is possibly some but many many millions more are still discovering the Beatles. And generally speaking reggae has been supplanted by rap worldwide, which doesn't do much for Bob's legacy, impressive though it is. | |||
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"And in my opinion Bob marley and the the wailers yes you may day it was more just bob, are one of the most under rated, a whole library of excellent songs, absolutely change ld the face of music, opened the door for so many people, the messages in the songs, the joy and all done in a very short time I think the question to ask is "How many young people today are discovering and revering Bob Marley and his music". The answer is possibly some but many many millions more are still discovering the Beatles. And generally speaking reggae has been supplanted by rap worldwide, which doesn't do much for Bob's legacy, impressive though it is. " I wouldn't agree with that to be fair, I think Bob marley is still very relevant and being embraced by every generation, especially with the state of the world now,also he doesn't get the main stream publicity as the beatles do..his songs, the message he sends resonate with so many many people not just because they are catchy but because of the words he preaches | |||
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"The Sex Pistols achieved more in their short time." ... ... As exciting a band as the Pistols were, they did not have the cultural clout of the Fab Four, they did nothing in America and sold a pithy amount in comparison. The Beatles ostensibly revolutionised music in the way it was made and in terms of content. | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. " That's great that you have music you enjoy But the greatest band of all time ! Maybe in your opinion. For myself, I would put a huge number of bands in front of the beatles such as; Bob Seger Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Roger Waters (solo) Frank Zappa Creedence Clearwater Revival The Doors Little Feat Lady Gaga Even Madonna has huge influence and plays Free concerts to over 1 million in audience The list can go on and on | |||
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"Never liked any Beatles song, they sounded average at best" Wow !! Your record collection must be amazing.... | |||
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"The Sex Pistols achieved more in their short time." I was a big fan of The Pistols, bought NMTB on release day and agree they had a big impact in their time. One album wonders, probably for the best, but comparing them to The Beatles is ridiculous. | |||
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"It would be hard to argue against the quantity of classic songs they wrote. No other band comes close. Live performance is a different kettle of fish though." They played a lot in their early days and were superb live performers. Ringo absolutely drove them, a powerhouse. | |||
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"The Beatles had the advantage of being early in terms of the charts: it would be interesting if they appeared later" Sorry but that makes no sense. The majority of their music is timeless and that's why it's still relevant today. If anything they were at a disadvantage because sound production and music technology was still in its infancy and mostly benefitted the bands that came after the Beatles. | |||
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"The Beatles had the advantage of being early in terms of the charts: it would be interesting if they appeared later Sorry but that makes no sense. The majority of their music is timeless and that's why it's still relevant today. If anything they were at a disadvantage because sound production and music technology was still in its infancy and mostly benefitted the bands that came after the Beatles." . Sg pepper, let it be and dolo tracks all came in late 60s. Nothing early about that | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. " Surely that depends on your own personal tastes? I accept that they changed music and I like a lot of their stuff, especially from Revolver onwards and there's no questioning their writing talent. In fact, writing their own songs was one of their most 'revolutionary' achievements, because it was still unusual for bands to write their own material in the early 60's. Indeed, as an example, of the 12 tracks on the Rolling Stones first album only the Jagger/Richards penned "Tell Me (You're Coming Back)" was their own composition. Within a few years however the majority of bands, with the exception of the typical gooey, formularised, throwaway pop impresario acts managed by the 60's versions of Simon Cowell, were writing their own material. Personally however, if I were asked to compile a top 500 of my favourite songs, the list would be far more likely to contain tracks by the likes of Motorhead, Metallica, New Model Army, The Clash, Rush, Bob Dylan, the Jam, or my personal favourites, Bad Religion, than any Beatles tracks. | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. " Don’t like em | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. Don’t like em" I heard Little Britain's Andy character when I read that ![]() | |||
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"The Worzels changed the perception of combine harvesters and cider drinking for all. Also the Wombles generated a zeitgeist still felt in tennis and football today. Mx ![]() Q/ What do you call a nest of baby wobbles? A/ A litter. | |||
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"I agree yes the Beatles were hugely influential and fantastic for their time, not forgetting all the other bands in the ‘ British Invasion’ e.g Animals, Kinks, Rolling Stones(who I preferred in my youth) etc. Greatest bands is a difficult one, I came up with an idea that if you can name 50 quality songs from a band, and I mean ‘quality’ then could they be classed as a great band. Already in that category both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones would smash it. It’s only an idea. " Fifty quality songs? After The Beatles you'd maybe have composers and songwriters such as Burt Bacharach and Carol King but don't think many other bands could claim it. The BeeGees wrote many hits for other people as did Prince, but maybe not 50. | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. " Too many great songs? Errrr. | |||
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"And in my opinion Bob marley and the the wailers yes you may day it was more just bob, are one of the most under rated, a whole library of excellent songs, absolutely change ld the face of music, opened the door for so many people, the messages in the songs, the joy and all done in a very short time I think the question to ask is "How many young people today are discovering and revering Bob Marley and his music". The answer is possibly some but many many millions more are still discovering the Beatles. And generally speaking reggae has been supplanted by rap worldwide, which doesn't do much for Bob's legacy, impressive though it is. I wouldn't agree with that to be fair, I think Bob marley is still very relevant and being embraced by every generation, especially with the state of the world now,also he doesn't get the main stream publicity as the beatles do..his songs, the message he sends resonate with so many many people not just because they are catchy but because of the words he preaches" It is strange that pop stars that start propagating political messages to the youth of a country... soon disappear! John Lennon, Bob Marley etc. Makes you wonder? ![]() | |||
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"What about wings, only the band the Beatles could have been. ![]() Got your big plate, Alan? ![]() | |||
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"I agree yes the Beatles were hugely influential and fantastic for their time, not forgetting all the other bands in the ‘ British Invasion’ e.g Animals, Kinks, Rolling Stones(who I preferred in my youth) etc. Greatest bands is a difficult one, I came up with an idea that if you can name 50 quality songs from a band, and I mean ‘quality’ then could they be classed as a great band. Already in that category both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones would smash it. It’s only an idea. " As an idea it assumes longevity goes with greatness, or vice versa, which assumes a short lived band cannot be great, which leaves many great bands out…influential like the Pistols, The Clash, The Jam. Political like Bronski Beat, Style Council, otherwise Nirvana.. so for me the bar would be much lower in terms of songs | |||
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"✂️... Greatest bands is a difficult one, I came up with an idea that if you can name 50 quality songs from a band, and I mean ‘quality’ then could they be classed as a great band. Already in that category both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones would smash it.. 🎤 " Satisfaction I'm Free Jumping Jack Flash Start Me Up Je Suis Un Rockstar...🤔 | |||
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"✂️... Greatest bands is a difficult one, I came up with an idea that if you can name 50 quality songs from a band, and I mean ‘quality’ then could they be classed as a great band. Already in that category both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones would smash it.. 🎤 Satisfaction I'm Free Jumping Jack Flash Start Me Up Je Suis Un Rockstar...🤔" Four out of five ain’t bad but there’s a lot you don’t mention | |||
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"Overated " The income they've generated over the last 60+ years proves otherwise. | |||
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"Overated The income they've generated over the last 60+ years proves otherwise." 👍👍 | |||
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"Overated The income they've generated over the last 60+ years proves otherwise." I certainly don't think that they're overrated but if greatness were measured purely by commercial clout, the list of all-time greats would end up with the likes of Ed Sheeran, Coldplay and Phil Collins on it. ![]() | |||
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"Overated The income they've generated over the last 60+ years proves otherwise. I certainly don't think that they're overrated but if greatness were measured purely by commercial clout, the list of all-time greats would end up with the likes of Ed Sheeran, Coldplay and Phil Collins on it. ![]() But would it? Yes the actual amount when compared directly may be greater for those 3 but money was a lot less in those days and went a lot further. Wonder what the values would be when adjusted for time and inflation. Also don’t forget that the beetles song have been earning royalties for around 50 years now. | |||
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"But of course there are so many genres of music now , Metal bands playing with orchestra s , collabs every other chart position . The real test is live in these times and I don’t know if The Beatles would have been as good as some were and still are ! " How many times did you see the Beatles to say this? Their reputation was built on their live shows in places like the cavern and in Hamburg, where you had to be a great live band or you didn’t get second and third shows. My dad, who saw many many singers and bands throughout the 50s and 60s always rated them as one of the best live bands he saw. Also, they stopped performing live quite early in their career, when they realised the audiences were only coming to see them, not to hear the songs. I don’t think bands today would do that, they’re too busy raking in the cash. | |||
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"For me it’s ABBA. Nine UK No 1 albums in a foreign language, smash hit musical, two blockbuster movies and Voyage selling out night after night for last three years. Plus ABBA Gold second biggest selling UK album of all time." But then tangentially.. would ABBA be so big without Roy Wood? | |||
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"I always thought the Bay City Rollers were on a par" HA HA HA. | |||
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"... Fifty quality songs? After The Beatles you'd maybe have composers and songwriters such as Burt Bacharach and Carol King but don't think many other bands could claim it. The BeeGees wrote many hits for other people as did Prince, but maybe not 50." A song doesn't have to be a 'hit' to be considered a great song. Apart from the fact that music is subjective there is also the issue of air play to be taken into account. The fact is that the majority of people buy what they hear on daytime radio and sadly these days that excludes genres like punk, heavy metal and rock. Therefore, bands that play music of those genres struggle to get airplay. To give an illustration of how times have changed, take The Jam's Going Underground. It received airplay and went straight to number 1. It was a song with biting political comment ... "You choose your leaders and place your trust As their lies wash you down and their promises rust And you'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns And the public wants what the public gets But I don't get what this society wants, I'm going underground" These days a band like The Jam would struggle to even get a record deal never mind have their music played on daytime radio! | |||
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"The Sex Pistols achieved more in their short time." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 | |||
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"The Beatles will forever the greatest band of all time! Too many great songs. The best of all time. " Oh totally But…… That’s because of the musical landscape at the time… Lennon and McCartney songwriting is exemplary of course…. And they set a stupidly high benchmark Lots of others close in terms of songwriting (Paul Simon, Joni Mitchell, Taupin/John..etc) but as a unit totally phenomenal | |||
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"Dylan is probably the most influential lyricist/songwriter ever ,who strangely enough was influenced him self by woody Guthrie ,who also is right up there with the biggest and best ever. Xx " Never understood the appeal of Dylan with that whingey whining voice! | |||
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"Dylan is probably the most influential lyricist/songwriter ever ,who strangely enough was influenced him self by woody Guthrie ,who also is right up there with the biggest and best ever. Xx Never understood the appeal of Dylan with that whingey whining voice!" It's his songwriting rather than his vocals is what makes him up there with the best. | |||
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