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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran." They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). " Hmmmm. Maybe. | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe." There's no maybe about it. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time)." Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE?? | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe." I have no doubt the USA's motivations go beyond the nuclear question, but the enrichment programme has gone beyond what is required for civilian uses. As I say. The prospect of a militarily nuclear capable Iran is not an attractive one. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE??" According to my sources it would affect the U.S. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE?? According to my sources it would affect the U.S. " It would effect the international price, so yeah it would. | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it." There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. | |||
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"The IAEA stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. The Islamic Republic regime consistently presents biased information. For instance, when they struck the Ukrainian passenger plane, they claimed it was due to a technical malfunction. Later, it was revealed that they intentionally shot down the aircraft. I am astonished that you are citing their reports." And the U.S. such proven truth tellers. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time)." Given that that the US exports more oil than it imports, are they not self sufficient in oil products? | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate." I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Given that that the US exports more oil than it imports, are they not self sufficient in oil products?" Oil is sold on international markets, it's owned by companies and harvested in countries. Countries like Sweden do benefit from theirs because they nationalised it and made it their sovereign wealth fund. Our form of capitalism makes winners of individuals not the state | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit." I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb' | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb'" Or they could think fuck this!! Nothing Korea don't get this shit and they have nukes | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb' Or they could think fuck this!! Nothing Korea don't get this shit and they have nukes " *North | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Given that that the US exports more oil than it imports, are they not self sufficient in oil products?" Oil prices are expected to rise in the U.S. if there is a blockage according to many sources. | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb'" I think they'd be safer with one especially after all this shit. Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours." And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. | |||
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"The Yemeni's could also block access to the Red Sea which would hurt, especially Israel." America and Britain recently tried to stop them and failed. | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. " That's ridiculous, it's not like Israel don't take regular opportunities to bomb their neighbours, or steal land and hardly as if they aren't part of this conflict is it? | |||
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"The Yemeni's could also block access to the Red Sea which would hurt, especially Israel. America and Britain recently tried to stop them and failed." Indeed, and I've heard today that they have 'ripped up' the ceasefire agreement. | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. That's ridiculous, it's not like Israel don't take regular opportunities to bomb their neighbours, or steal land and hardly as if they aren't part of this conflict is it?" So this isn't about USA bombing Iran's nuclear sites then? | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. That's ridiculous, it's not like Israel don't take regular opportunities to bomb their neighbours, or steal land and hardly as if they aren't part of this conflict is it? So this isn't about USA bombing Iran's nuclear sites then?" Oh Christ. You really think Israel shouldn't be part of this conversation? | |||
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". Oh Christ. You really think Israel shouldn't be part of this conversation? " Well from someone who recently used the phrase 'Khazari inbreds' your motivation to get Israel into this conversation is quite clear. | |||
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". Oh Christ. You really think Israel shouldn't be part of this conversation? Well from someone who recently used the phrase 'Khazari inbreds' your motivation to get Israel into this conversation is quite clear." You not read Koestler? | |||
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"Sir Kier has kept us out this conflict. That's the good news." This may age like milk. Labour prime ministers seem to like to suck up to republican presidents. Poodles Unless he's said something in the last few hours I haven't heard | |||
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"As been pointed out america has crossed a red line , for months ukraine has bleated that Russia has fire missiles around their nuclear power stations . This has roundly been condemned by the eu , USA and the atomic agencies. Today it appears that these sites are legitimate targets after all . " Doesn't count if your a Muslim state - orange baby said | |||
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"Here's a thing! Now here IS a thing. Iran's signed the NNPT. Iran has on occasion permitted inspections and the IAEA has been given some access from time to time. Iran is reasonably believed to possess NO operational weapons. Whereas... Israel has not signed the NNPT. Israel has never let anyone into Dimona or its other nuclear facilities. It has repeatedly told the IAEA to fuck off. Israel is credibly reported to hold 100 to 400 nuclear warheads. It's even more of a threat to regional stability than Iran, and routinely commits acts of war against other sovereign nations. So when will the fat orange cunt unleash the B2s on Dimona? (rapturous applause from standup comedy audience) I've been an awkward bastard and you've been great. Goodnight. " The Islamic regime of Iran is a participant in the NPT; however, they have obstructed IAEA inspectors from visiting and examining sites more than ten times. Additionally, they have misled regarding concealed locations intended for uranium enrichment, which they concealed during inspections. Therefore, it is unwise to place trust in these individuals and assume they demonstrate transparency simply due to their membership. | |||
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"Sir Kier has kept us out this conflict. That's the good news. This may age like milk. Labour prime ministers seem to like to suck up to republican presidents. Poodles Unless he's said something in the last few hours I haven't heard " The last time a UK Prime Minister turned down a request to join a US military adventure was in the 1960s. A Labour PM, Harold Wilson, who refused to send UK troops to Vietnam. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time)." . Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. | |||
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". Oh Christ. You really think Israel shouldn't be part of this conversation? Well from someone who recently used the phrase 'Khazari inbreds' your motivation to get Israel into this conversation is quite clear. You not read Koestler?" I'd recommend his book on the subject as a good read, also Shlomo Sand, both accurate according to Chomsky. | |||
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"Sir Kier has kept us out this conflict. That's the good news. This may age like milk. Labour prime ministers seem to like to suck up to republican presidents. Poodles Unless he's said something in the last few hours I haven't heard The last time a UK Prime Minister turned down a request to join a US military adventure was in the 1960s. A Labour PM, Harold Wilson, who refused to send UK troops to Vietnam." Accurate, but TBF it's not like there's been many | |||
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"Fuckwit. You want Iran!! Fuck off there " No thanks, not with all those Israeli bombs flying around. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. " I don’t think other western european countries will do anything to stop the americans if Iran blocks oil journeys. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. " Man's clueless!! You not heard the morning round? TBF the Iranian spokes person sounded more reasonable than the spokes person for Israel. Israel are foot to the floor wanting this. Iran said we're not sure how much room for diplomacy is left after this. Jonathan Reynolds was 100% behind Israel and America even if he didn't know it was legal or not. Escalation is on!! Britain will be drawn in. | |||
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"Sir Kier has kept us out this conflict. That's the good news. This may age like milk. Labour prime ministers seem to like to suck up to republican presidents. Poodles Unless he's said something in the last few hours I haven't heard The last time a UK Prime Minister turned down a request to join a US military adventure was in the 1960s. A Labour PM, Harold Wilson, who refused to send UK troops to Vietnam." Good call didn’t a recent elected republican take hell no we won’t go to a new level  | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. I don’t think other western european countries will do anything to stop the americans if Iran blocks oil journeys. " This is Iran's best bet, western democracies react to opinion polls let alone dissent Iran have total control and will beat their population into submission | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. " Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic."  i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away."This argument is so pathetic. It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran. It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them. If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!! Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them. So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic." Not as ridiculous as you appear to think!! While it's true that Iran's government has been known to make claims that contradict reality, this doesn't necessarily mean that diplomatic efforts are doomed to fail. In fact, engagement through diplomacy can provide opportunities to address these discrepancies and work towards mutual understanding. Moreover, dismissing diplomatic talks outright may lead to further escalation and instability. History has shown that even with regimes having complex relationships with the West, diplomatic efforts can yield positive outcomes, such as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in 2015. It's also worth noting that diplomatic engagement doesn't imply endorsement or approval of a regime's human rights record. Rather, it provides a platform to address these concerns and work towards improvements. Ultimately, diplomacy is a complex process that requires patience, persistence, and a willingness to engage with differing perspectives. By maintaining open channels of communication, countries can better understand each other's concerns and work towards finding mutually beneficial solutions. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve."I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire. | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. " I would not agree. Hamas (and Iran) calling for the genocide of every Jew, the butchery, r4pe, k1dnap, murder 1,500 innocent people, complete disrespect of the Prophet and the Quran, the promise to repeat October 7th 2023 time and time again, the celebration of the death of innocents (including their own) and more, does not , to any rational being, could be called provocation. | |||
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"It has to come from the people of Iran with a plan, because they know the tensions between ethnicities and what sort of rulership would work for them. I'd support us to help them if they have a plan. I won't support cutting the head of the hydra one for a thousand snakes to appear " Only | |||
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". Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. And THERE it is. Given the nature of your usual posts I just knew this was coming. So was this a thread to genuinely debate the US strikes on Iran, or another thread to give you the opportunity to get a dig in at Israel? And, given the tone of some of your recent posts maybe a big old chunk of anti-semitism too? BTW ... I am no supporter of the extent of the Israeli government's current activities in Gaza which has escalated into a massive over reaction to Hamas' clear provocation. Yes, provocation. I would not agree. Hamas (and Iran) calling for the genocide of every Jew, the butchery, r4pe, k1dnap, murder 1,500 innocent people, complete disrespect of the Prophet and the Quran, the promise to repeat October 7th 2023 time and time again, the celebration of the death of innocents (including their own) and more, does not , to any rational being, could be called provocation." You saw 2 million people in Gaza celebrate and 90 million in Iran? | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire."Once the bombing stops I'm sure they will come out onto the streets. Hopefully overthrowing the Regime. Then going back to my earlier point, gay/bi men would be be able to live openly as they please, as their counterparts in Israel are able to. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
Once the bombing stops I'm sure they will come out onto the streets. Hopefully overthrowing the Regime. Then going back to my earlier point, gay/bi men would be be able to live openly as they please, as their counterparts in Israel are able to."If that's what they want.... They may like the Israel model I doubt it. They may want to be more like other Islamic states like UAE, Egypt or Bahrain which is more likely. One thing Islam doesn't like it's raw capitalism and individualism the kind America stands for and Thatcher promoted although we lean more American we do have a level of European statism too. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. Not as ridiculous as you appear to think!! While it's true that Iran's government has been known to make claims that contradict reality, this doesn't necessarily mean that diplomatic efforts are doomed to fail. In fact, engagement through diplomacy can provide opportunities to address these discrepancies and work towards mutual understanding. Moreover, dismissing diplomatic talks outright may lead to further escalation and instability. History has shown that even with regimes having complex relationships with the West, diplomatic efforts can yield positive outcomes, such as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in 2015. It's also worth noting that diplomatic engagement doesn't imply endorsement or approval of a regime's human rights record. Rather, it provides a platform to address these concerns and work towards improvements. Ultimately, diplomacy is a complex process that requires patience, persistence, and a willingness to engage with differing perspectives. By maintaining open channels of communication, countries can better understand each other's concerns and work towards finding mutually beneficial solutions. " Is it unreasonable to believe that the negotiation will not be successful after two decades of discussions with them???? Have you been fantasizing all these years? Or have you ever monitored their negotiations concerning uranium enrichment? They consistently emphasised transparency, yet suddenly revealed enrichment sites that they had not previously disclosed. These include the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant, the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, and the Arak heavy water reactor and production plant. Additionally, Iran was found to have undeclared uranium particles at a location not previously declared to the IAEA. Good luck with your theory . | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
Once the bombing stops I'm sure they will come out onto the streets. Hopefully overthrowing the Regime. Then going back to my earlier point, gay/bi men would be be able to live openly as they please, as their counterparts in Israel are able to."The idea that bombing would somehow pave the way for a better future for Iranian citizens, especially the LGBTQ+ community, is complete fantasy! Military action would likely cause immense harm and loss of life, disproportionately affecting vulnerable populations. It's crucial to prioritise humanitarian considerations and explore alternatives that promote human rights and dignity. Supporting grassroots movements and advocating for peaceful, inclusive change might be more effective in achieving long-term progress for marginalised communities in Iran. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
Once the bombing stops I'm sure they will come out onto the streets. Hopefully overthrowing the Regime. Then going back to my earlier point, gay/bi men would be be able to live openly as they please, as their counterparts in Israel are able to.
If that's what they want.... They may like the Israel model I doubt it.
They may want to be more like other Islamic states like UAE, Egypt or Bahrain which is more likely.
One thing Islam doesn't like it's raw capitalism and individualism the kind America stands for and Thatcher promoted although we lean more American we do have a level of European statism too."It appears they desire the restoration of the kingdom. While I cannot ascertain if this will indeed transpire, one thing is certain: they will remove the Islamic Republic from Iran's official title, and the Islamic flag will be discarded. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
Once the bombing stops I'm sure they will come out onto the streets. Hopefully overthrowing the Regime. Then going back to my earlier point, gay/bi men would be be able to live openly as they please, as their counterparts in Israel are able to.
If that's what they want.... They may like the Israel model I doubt it.
They may want to be more like other Islamic states like UAE, Egypt or Bahrain which is more likely.
One thing Islam doesn't like it's raw capitalism and individualism the kind America stands for and Thatcher promoted although we lean more American we do have a level of European statism too.
It appears they desire the restoration of the kingdom. While I cannot ascertain if this will indeed transpire, one thing is certain: they will remove the Islamic Republic from Iran's official title, and the Islamic flag will be discarded."I've heard this. I think it's more the dreams of a Shah in exile in America than reality. They were toppled for a reason and this is what I mean by be careful of what you want. | |||
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"Is it unreasonable to believe that the negotiation will not be successful after two decades of discussions with them???? Have you been fantasizing all these years? Or have you ever monitored their negotiations concerning uranium enrichment? They consistently emphasised transparency, yet suddenly revealed enrichment sites that they had not previously disclosed. These include the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant, the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, and the Arak heavy water reactor and production plant. Additionally, Iran was found to have undeclared uranium particles at a location not previously declared to the IAEA. Good luck with your theory . " Rather than resorting to speculation, point scoring and personal attacks, let's focus on the issue at hand. The question isn't about fantasising or having 'good luck' with a theory; it's about whether continued diplomatic efforts can yield better outcomes. Given the complexities of international negotiations, it's reasonable to believe that a refined approach, built on past experiences and lessons, might lead to more successful outcomes. Ultimately, the goal should be to find solutions that not only address our concerns but also protect innocent lives and promote global stability. | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire."All that would happen is another western folly, another failed state and if you think the Islamic dictatorship is bad now just look at the slide into the rabbit hole that is occurring in Syria and the west are celebrating that little fuck up | |||
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"Is it unreasonable to believe that the negotiation will not be successful after two decades of discussions with them???? Have you been fantasizing all these years? Or have you ever monitored their negotiations concerning uranium enrichment? They consistently emphasised transparency, yet suddenly revealed enrichment sites that they had not previously disclosed. These include the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant, the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, and the Arak heavy water reactor and production plant. Additionally, Iran was found to have undeclared uranium particles at a location not previously declared to the IAEA. Good luck with your theory . Rather than resorting to speculation, point scoring and personal attacks, let's focus on the issue at hand. The question isn't about fantasising or having 'good luck' with a theory; it's about whether continued diplomatic efforts can yield better outcomes. Given the complexities of international negotiations, it's reasonable to believe that a refined approach, built on past experiences and lessons, might lead to more successful outcomes. Ultimately, the goal should be to find solutions that not only address our concerns but also protect innocent lives and promote global stability." Neither America or Britain can be serious about diplomacy whilst cutting foreign aid and ergo soft power | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
All that would happen is another western folly, another failed state and if you think the Islamic dictatorship is bad now just look at the slide into the rabbit hole that is occurring in Syria and the west are celebrating that little fuck up"Add Lybia and Iraq to your list. We don't understand what they control and the death and destruction it unveils is on our consciousness. If the people want it show it, get a plan together and then we can support them | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time).. Iran's response to US aggression is complex. If they blocked the Strait of Hormuz, it would greatly affect global oil markets and escalate tensions. This would also impact the UK and West, causing oil price hikes, economic instability, and disrupting trade. Higher oil prices could lead to inflation, slower economic growth, and increased costs. The UK and West would need to find alternative energy sources or use emergency stockpiles. It's crucial to prioritise diplomacy to reduce tensions and avoid a bigger conflict. The international community should work towards a peaceful resolution through dialogue and restraint. Diplomacy and peaceful resolution with Iran??? Ha ha ha... they represent one of the most perilous regimes globally, filled with deceit. The UK, France, and Germany have been negotiating for over 20 years. They are well aware of how to deceive you during talks. Inquire about human rights in Iran, and they will claim to be the most democratic nation in the entire world. This is the type of negotiation you can expect from the Islamic Republic. i wonder how many Gay/Bi men would want to go and live there, openly and honestly? Much safer to support Iran from the safety of a keyboard, thousands of miles away.
This argument is so pathetic.
It's not about being able to live as a homosexul in Iran.
It's about the right for states to live how they want to with out western interference or bombs dropping on them.
If the people of Iran want it to be a liberal democracy like the west now is their chance!!
Netenyah has been on social media and I think a channel that can get in to Iran encouraging them.
So far they haven't. Probably because it's caught everyone off guard but you'd expect dissent to show that they approve.
I completely concur. This is the most opportune moment for Iranians to oust this corrupt regime once and for all and liberate themselves from Islamic dictatorship. It could happen; you never know. This regime is in a significant quagmire.
All that would happen is another western folly, another failed state and if you think the Islamic dictatorship is bad now just look at the slide into the rabbit hole that is occurring in Syria and the west are celebrating that little fuck up"I find it difficult to envision a proxy group infiltrating that system. Therefore, I will refrain from making any comparisons with Syria. | |||
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"Neither America or Britain can be serious about diplomacy whilst cutting foreign aid and ergo soft power" The relationship between foreign aid, soft power, and diplomacy is complex. Cutting foreign aid doesn't necessarily mean a country is insincere about diplomacy. Countries reassess their foreign aid budgets for various reasons, including economic constraints or shifting priorities. Soft power is built on a range of factors, including cultural exchange, education, and economic ties, not just foreign aid. Effective diplomacy involves a nuanced approach, combining different tools and strategies to achieve specific goals. Reducing foreign aid might reflect a strategic re-evaluation rather than a lack of seriousness about diplomatic engagement. The picture is more complex than a direct correlation between aid and diplomatic intent. | |||
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"Neither America or Britain can be serious about diplomacy whilst cutting foreign aid and ergo soft power The relationship between foreign aid, soft power, and diplomacy is complex. Cutting foreign aid doesn't necessarily mean a country is insincere about diplomacy. Countries reassess their foreign aid budgets for various reasons, including economic constraints or shifting priorities. Soft power is built on a range of factors, including cultural exchange, education, and economic ties, not just foreign aid. Effective diplomacy involves a nuanced approach, combining different tools and strategies to achieve specific goals. Reducing foreign aid might reflect a strategic re-evaluation rather than a lack of seriousness about diplomatic engagement. The picture is more complex than a direct correlation between aid and diplomatic intent." Yes it does, it buys you influence! What you've written is naïve!! We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. But hey, racist gonna shrink out economy and make us poorer | |||
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"Really don’t understand why Iran is seen as an isolated threat to the western world. Regardless of what is being reported today, Iran is part of the Authoritarian Alliance, nevermind in a recently signed strategic partnership with Russia. Where does anyone think Iran has acquired its current ballistic missile arsenal from? It certainly hasn’t produced them in-country. Frankly, the west needs to get a grip of global influencers and their multitude of proxy antagonists. Whether Iran is a sole-trader in war at this point in time, if it is seen beneficial by Russian and Chinese governments it won’t be stand-alone for long. And if anyone wants to see the effects of the authoritarian alliance in action for themselves just tune into the UN Security Council emergency hearing right now!" Iran's perceived threat to the Western world is multifaceted, stemming from its ballistic missile programme, nuclear ambitions, regional destabilisation, and human rights record. Its partnerships with Russia and China add complexity, as these relationships can facilitate technology transfers and strategic coordination. The origins of Iran's ballistic missile arsenal are indeed linked to foreign assistance, including from Russia and North Korea. This underscores the need for the West to address not just Iran's actions but also the broader dynamics of its alliances. The suggestion that the West needs a more comprehensive strategy to counter global influencers and their proxies is well-taken. An approach that considers the interplay between Iran, Russia, and China could help mitigate regional tensions and prevent further escalation. The UN Security Council hearings highlight these global implications. | |||
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"I love the international experts on foreign policy and diplomacy who frequent Fabguys There isn’t any point going down the pub with this degree of talent on show. "Good to know that you are enjoying the topic, armchair experts abound, don't they? Your insightful commentary is duly noted. Meanwhile, those actually engaging with the complexities of foreign policy might appreciate constructive input rather than sarcasm from self-proclaimed authorities on the sideline who've yet to contribute meaningfully to the discussion!! | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE?? According to my sources it would affect the U.S. " According to all sources, the street's the place to go | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE?? According to my sources it would affect the U.S. According to all sources, the street's the place to go " Cos' tonight for the first time | |||
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"The IAEA and the Iranians have said there is no radiation leakage. Retaliating against the U.S. militarily would just play into Netanyahu's hand so I don't think that's going to happen, certainly not at this point. Hitting Israel with the bigger more technically advanced missiles looks like it is on the cards but seems obvious and certain. Hit the U.S. where it hurts, in the pocket, block off the Strait of Hormuz. This would hurt Trump when Americans are short of gas at the station or are paying $15 per gallon. They'll be up in arms, probably march on Washington (but remember to take their guns this time). Is this true? Seems unlikely when I heard they produce more than Saudi at the moment. Certainly true for the European countries. It would also hurt Iran not being able to export so much oil, although I think it is a future option I think the more likely is an American based or possibly even an allied base, British Cyprus or UAE?? According to my sources it would affect the U.S. According to all sources, the street's the place to go Cos' tonight for the first time" It certainly ain't men that's raining down out there | |||
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"The Americans have enough energy resources ready to use at home. They've just been using imports from around the world before using their own resources They won't go without. But the UK will. I've filled my oil tank you should too." Spot on! The US has been ramping up its domestic production, but it's true they've still been importing oil. That said, they've got substantial reserves and production capacity, so they'd likely weather a disruption better than some other countries. Meanwhile, the UK's more vulnerable to disruptions in global oil supplies, given its smaller domestic production and reliance on imports. Filling up your oil tank might be a prudent move, especially if you're concerned about potential price hikes or supply chain disruptions! | |||
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"The Americans have enough energy resources ready to use at home. They've just been using imports from around the world before using their own resources They won't go without. But the UK will. I've filled my oil tank you should too." Not how oil works. BP or shell or whatever own oil not countries It's sold on the international market | |||
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"The Americans have enough energy resources ready to use at home. They've just been using imports from around the world before using their own resources They won't go without. But the UK will. I've filled my oil tank you should too. Not how oil works. BP or shell or whatever own oil not countries It's sold on the international market " It's not entirely accurate to say countries don't own oil. While it's true that companies like BP and Shell play a significant role in oil production and trading, many countries have state-owned oil companies or national reserves that give them a degree of control over their oil resources. Countries with significant oil reserves often implement policies to manage their resources, such as setting production levels, imposing taxes or royalties, and regulating exports. This means that while oil is indeed traded on the international market, countries can still exert influence over their own oil industries and benefit financially from their resources. The global oil market is complex, with many players involved, including national oil companies, international oil companies, and governments. Each of these players has a role to play in shaping the market and determining prices. | |||
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"The Americans have enough energy resources ready to use at home. They've just been using imports from around the world before using their own resources They won't go without. But the UK will. I've filled my oil tank you should too. Spot on! The US has been ramping up its domestic production, but it's true they've still been importing oil. That said, they've got substantial reserves and production capacity, so they'd likely weather a disruption better than some other countries. Meanwhile, the UK's more vulnerable to disruptions in global oil supplies, given its smaller domestic production and reliance on imports. Filling up your oil tank might be a prudent move, especially if you're concerned about potential price hikes or supply chain disruptions!" The only way to disrupt production is by producing greater volumes to float on the market. These free marketers understand about as much as Boris and Liz Truss about free markets | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. " Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. " I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime | |||
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"The Americans have enough energy resources ready to use at home. They've just been using imports from around the world before using their own resources They won't go without. But the UK will. I've filled my oil tank you should too. Spot on! The US has been ramping up its domestic production, but it's true they've still been importing oil. That said, they've got substantial reserves and production capacity, so they'd likely weather a disruption better than some other countries. Meanwhile, the UK's more vulnerable to disruptions in global oil supplies, given its smaller domestic production and reliance on imports. Filling up your oil tank might be a prudent move, especially if you're concerned about potential price hikes or supply chain disruptions! The only way to disrupt production is by producing greater volumes to float on the market. These free marketers understand about as much as Boris and Liz Truss about free markets " That's a totally simplistic view of market dynamics. Disrupting production isn't just about flooding the market with more supply. Factors like production capacity, refining constraints, geopolitical events, and global demand shifts can all impact oil production and prices. Moreover, the idea that simply producing more volumes would stabilize the market overlooks the complexity of global oil markets. OPEC+ and other producers often adjust production levels to manage prices and balance supply and demand. As for the childish jab at Boris and Liz Truss, it's clear that policymakers' understanding of markets can be debated. However, the notion that free marketers have a one-size-fits-all solution for complex global markets like oil is also an oversimplification. Market dynamics involve many variables, and effective management requires a deep understanding of these complexities. | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime " How many did you want? | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? " He wants you to name em all!! 😅 | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? " Now name the people who have been educated in Britain and done well. Over 1/4 world leaders were educated Britain! That's soft power, and you lot don't want them to bring family......in case | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? He wants you to name em all!! 😅" He's desperate for me to find a white one. - There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? He wants you to name em all!! 😅" You think it's longer than the list of who did well? That's a very sad, small mindset | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? He wants you to name em all!! 😅 He's desperate for me to find a white one. - There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? " The state of this........ | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? He wants you to name em all!! 😅 You think it's longer than the list of who did well? That's a very sad,small mindset You didn't study in Beijing or the University of Lagos by any chance did you? Babe! Oh! Dear!! Week week week!! Edinburgh and London FYI. You left that high rise??" Delighted that it made you into the man you are today ...Lofty heights indeed! Well done London & Edinburgh | |||
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"Derailed from what??? I'm responding to abuse from a certain person who resides in reading but pretty sure Iceland is his homogeneous home " Derailed as in off-topic, but of course abuse is never acceptable under any circumstance. | |||
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"direct We are shrinking our role in the world not just through the foreign aid budget but also by not allowing foreign students in. When their in our country they see our values our system etc etc and then when they go home they either think of us fondly or if they become important they think of us fondly. Yes ... Bashar al-Assad -The former Syrian president, who was overthrown in 2024, trained as an ophthalmologist in London. And cannibalistic Idi Amin - The Ugandan dictator received military training in the UK before he got a taste for human flesh. Then there was the corrupt Benazir Bhutto (Pakistan) - who studied at Oxford University. Plus Muammar Gaddafi (Libya) - He attended a British military academy In the 23/24 academic year there were 732,285 international students studying at UK higher education institutions ... Some of them even eventually return to their home countries and undoubtably spend the rest of their UK-enriched lives spreading the British values they soaked up while studying here ... and stopping people in the street to talk fondly of how wonderful the British are in every way. I'm glad you've found 4 from hundreds of thousands to base your thesis. It explains a lot about your mentality towards brown people and the few crimes they commit in the greater scheme of of crime How many did you want? He wants you to name em all!! 😅 He's desperate for me to find a white one. - There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol" Would have got nicked during the subsequent riots anyway | |||
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"I do think it is a bit strange if the person who is in charge of the us intelligence says no evidence of Iran nuclear and trump disagrees" And then she quickly agrees with orange man baby | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran." EXACTLY | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). " You are wrong im afraid,there is documented evidence that for everyday life iran needs to produce 3% enriched uranium,they have upped theyre production to 60% | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. I have no doubt the USA's motivations go beyond the nuclear question, but the enrichment programme has gone beyond what is required for civilian uses. As I say. The prospect of a militarily nuclear capable Iran is not an attractive one." You are spot on with your facts,ive read the same | |||
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" There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol" Further to the above, interestingly William Patrick Hitler, Adolf Hitler's nephew, defied his infamous family ties by fighting against the Nazi regime in World War II. Born in Liverpool in 1911 to Alois Hitler Jr., Adolf's half-brother, William later met his uncle in Germany before fleeing to the United States in 1939. Disillusioned by the Nazi party, William enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1944, serving in the Pacific Theater as a Pharmacist's Mate. He was wounded in action and awarded the Purple Heart. After the war, William changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and built a new life in New York, distancing himself from his notorious ancestry. | |||
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" There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol Further to the above, interestingly William Patrick Hitler, Adolf Hitler's nephew, defied his infamous family ties by fighting against the Nazi regime in World War II. Born in Liverpool in 1911 to Alois Hitler Jr., Adolf's half-brother, William later met his uncle in Germany before fleeing to the United States in 1939. Disillusioned by the Nazi party, William enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1944, serving in the Pacific Theater as a Pharmacist's Mate. He was wounded in action and awarded the Purple Heart. After the war, William changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and built a new life in New York, distancing himself from his notorious ancestry." Interesting to who? You? | |||
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" There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol Further to the above, interestingly William Patrick Hitler, Adolf Hitler's nephew, defied his infamous family ties by fighting against the Nazi regime in World War II. Born in Liverpool in 1911 to Alois Hitler Jr., Adolf's half-brother, William later met his uncle in Germany before fleeing to the United States in 1939. Disillusioned by the Nazi party, William enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1944, serving in the Pacific Theater as a Pharmacist's Mate. He was wounded in action and awarded the Purple Heart. After the war, William changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and built a new life in New York, distancing himself from his notorious ancestry." That's very interesting. I guess all the surviving Hitlers changed their name eventually. | |||
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" There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol Further to the above, interestingly William Patrick Hitler, Adolf Hitler's nephew, defied his infamous family ties by fighting against the Nazi regime in World War II. Born in Liverpool in 1911 to Alois Hitler Jr., Adolf's half-brother, William later met his uncle in Germany before fleeing to the United States in 1939. Disillusioned by the Nazi party, William enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1944, serving in the Pacific Theater as a Pharmacist's Mate. He was wounded in action and awarded the Purple Heart. After the war, William changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and built a new life in New York, distancing himself from his notorious ancestry. That's very interesting. I guess all the surviving Hitlers changed their name eventually. " Yes another interesting topic Randomguy! 😉 | |||
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"Adolph Hitler's father, was Alois Schicklgruber was born out of wedlock to Maria Schicklgruber with an unknown biological father. Alois later claimed his step-father Johann Georg Hiedler as his father, changing his surname to Hitler (due to a spelling error). This made his third wife, Klara (Adolf's mother), his first cousin once removed." Any geneticist worth their salt would find that fascinating. | |||
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" There's the urban legend that claims a young Adolf Hitler lived in Liverpool around about 1912-13, ... but rather disappointingly, evidence of this is scant. However, Alois Hitler Jr. (Adolf's half-brother) did live in Liverpool with his wife Bridget and their son, William Patrick, in the early 20th century. They lived at 102 Upper Stanhope Street in Toxteth. Not sure if there's a blue plaque there to commemorate the strange occurrence now or not? 102 Stanhope street, ironically was bombed by Hitler in the war so...no blue plaque fir that lol Further to the above, interestingly William Patrick Hitler, Adolf Hitler's nephew, defied his infamous family ties by fighting against the Nazi regime in World War II. Born in Liverpool in 1911 to Alois Hitler Jr., Adolf's half-brother, William later met his uncle in Germany before fleeing to the United States in 1939. Disillusioned by the Nazi party, William enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1944, serving in the Pacific Theater as a Pharmacist's Mate. He was wounded in action and awarded the Purple Heart. After the war, William changed his surname to Stuart-Houston and built a new life in New York, distancing himself from his notorious ancestry. That's very interesting. I guess all the surviving Hitlers changed their name eventually. Yes another interesting topic Randomguy! 😉" How's your brown nose? Smell? | |||
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"Adolph Hitler's father, was Alois Schicklgruber was born out of wedlock to Maria Schicklgruber with an unknown biological father. Alois later claimed his step-father Johann Georg Hiedler as his father, changing his surname to Hitler (due to a spelling error). This made his third wife, Klara (Adolf's mother), his first cousin once removed. Any geneticist worth their salt would find that fascinating. " Hear say...... absolutely | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb' I think they'd be safer with one especially after all this shit. Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours." So supply HAMAS with rockets to fire on Israel by Iran . Is not an aggressive act by Iran . And then tell the world your going build a Nuclear bomb to wipe out Isreal of face of earth . I say that’s pretty aggressive. Isreal needs to remove the head of snake , that’s yet to come . Then also free Iranian’s from the fear of death , being locked up tortured beaten by the Revolutionary guard. World be better place . | |||
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" You are wrong im afraid,there is documented evidence that for everyday life iran needs to produce 3% enriched uranium,they have upped theyre production to 60%" Standard nuclear fuel for an electricity-generating station is enriched to about 3% Anything above 20% is highly-enriched. Research reactors run on fuel enriched to 80-odd per cent (though many have been incentivised to reduce to below 20%). So, too, do the power plant on submarines. Enrichment to 90% and above is weapons-grade. | |||
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb' I think they'd be safer with one especially after all this shit. Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. So supply HAMAS with rockets to fire on Israel by Iran . Is not an aggressive act by Iran . And then tell the world your going build a Nuclear bomb to wipe out Isreal of face of earth . I say that’s pretty aggressive. Isreal needs to remove the head of snake , that’s yet to come . Then also free Iranian’s from the fear of death , being locked up tortured beaten by the Revolutionary guard. World be better place ." | |||
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"Let’s be honest, Bibi has been saying since 2012 that Iran is only “days away” from having a weapon, to see the US become the puppet of Isreal is more worrying. Inspectors in 2025 said there was no sign of weapons, it’s another Iraq and worry for when we get dragged into a ground war! Does this mean I back Iran? No it doesn’t but it also means I support Isreal or the US. This is a huge mistake, Iran was at the table before the US bombed them." The IAEA stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. Islamic regime engages in negotiations while simultaneously enriching uranium, all under the guise of discussing peace with uk , France , Germany . This pattern has been evident in negotiations over the past twenty years. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! " And why should they be? | |||
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"Israel is one of only 4 countries in the world to refuse to sign up to the Non Proliferation Treaty. "
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"Still probably better than the prospect of nuclear capable Iran. Even the risk of a nuclear capable Iran. They certainly doo have the capability but there is no evidence that they are even attempting to weaponise. (except one poster of a cartoon ACHME bomb held up by Netanyahu). Hmmmm. Maybe. There's no maybe about it. There is. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on this site has access to the intelligence. But there will be something behind the assertion of 60% enriched uranium and Iran's refusal to cooperate with inspections. The US strikes would appear (so far at least)to have been limited to atomic facilities. Of course the US are no doubt loving the opportunity to flex muscles. Possible even hoping for a retaliation that will justify a wider response on their part. But for now, yes, damaging - maybe even destroying - Iran's enrichment capabilities seems proportionate. I wouldn't be surprised if the Iranians are hell bent at this point to weaponise and who could blame them after all this shit. I have no doubt they would have weaponised already if the could. Best not let them maybe. Of the many nations in the world, Iran would be on my list of 'Who would you be most scared of getting the bomb' I think they'd be safer with one especially after all this shit. Would certainly make Israel think twice next time they consider an unprovoked act of aggression on their neighbours. So supply HAMAS with rockets to fire on Israel by Iran . Is not an aggressive act by Iran . And then tell the world your going build a Nuclear bomb to wipe out Isreal of face of earth . I say that’s pretty aggressive. Isreal needs to remove the head of snake , that’s yet to come . Then also free Iranian’s from the fear of death , being locked up tortured beaten by the Revolutionary guard. World be better place . " | |||
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"Israel is one of only 4 countries in the world to refuse to sign up to the Non Proliferation Treaty.
What’s the point to sign up and lie to the whole world ? Like ayatollahs "The Non Proliferation Treaty is the most comprehensive and successful arms control treaty in history. It enables the P5 - US, Russia, China, UK and France - to share nuclear technology for civilian purposes with countries who sign up to its commitment not to develop nuclear weapons. Iran signed up to it, and has been supplied with nuclear technology for civil use by the USA, Russia and China. Israel never signed up to it, and obtained its nuclear technology through theft and subterfuge. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be?" Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. | |||
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"Why regime change? Iran has been engaging in bullying for the past 46 years, including summary executions, numerous executions of individuals under 18, beating women for their hijab, mass executions of political dissidents, shooting directly at protesters eyes last year, with around 600 casualties just in the past year, poisoning elementary school children in at least fifty schools across Iran, shooting down a passenger plane full of dual nationalities and denying it, arresting dual nationals and extorting foreign governments, and immediately filing complaints with the United Nations upon any protests.mullahs the fkers. , stop that shit that they are innocent . " no one is suggest g Iran is “innocent” but what has just happened is wrong and let’s be honest it’s at the behest of Isreal who is as guilty as Iran for some of its actions. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities." No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world | |||
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"Why regime change? Iran has been engaging in bullying for the past 46 years, including summary executions, numerous executions of individuals under 18, beating women for their hijab, mass executions of political dissidents, shooting directly at protesters eyes last year, with around 600 casualties just in the past year, poisoning elementary school children in at least fifty schools across Iran, shooting down a passenger plane full of dual nationalities and denying it, arresting dual nationals and extorting foreign governments, and immediately filing complaints with the United Nations upon any protests.mullahs the fkers. , stop that shit that they are innocent . no one is suggest g Iran is “innocent” but what has just happened is wrong and let’s be honest it’s at the behest of Isreal who is as guilty as Iran for some of its actions. " just tell us what was wrong about Iran? | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world " The hypocrisy is astounding. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world " The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The hypocrisy is astounding." Oh talk a little bit more sweet heart | |||
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"So tell me this, where does Mr Trump get his legitimacy from to drop bombs on a sovereign state? There is no ruling that Iran is in breach of any safeguards requirements of the IAEA or its obligations under the NPT. " At times, I find myself astonished by your remarks. You hesitate to visit Iran because they claim to be peaceful and welcoming to tourists? Would you? You wouldn't stick your finger into an electrical socket simply because you haven't experienced it. The mullahs thrive on deception and terror, with their aim being the eradication of Israel and all Western nations. The enrichment levels have surged from 3 percent to 60 percent. Why is that? Do you believe the Iranians needed this? Absolutely not; they have invested billions to assert their dominance in the Middle East and subsequently over Israel and European countries. They will undermine all nations. Just ask the Iranian people; they will clarify their identity to you. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website" Are you telling me that Grossy didn’t tell that??? | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website Are you telling me that Grossy didn’t tell that???" Oh, I've no doubt Iran wants to get its hands on a bomb - it is the best way to deter aggression from nuclear-armed states such as USA and Israel. (The lesson from Libya is stark. Ghadaffi was persuaded to give up his clandestine programme, before being decpatitated by the very same people) But it is not evidence of an active bomb programme. Both the IAEA and US intelligence say there is no evidence of an active bomb programme. | |||
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"One key difference is that unlike George W Bush in Iraq, Donald J Trump is acting in Iran without any accountability to Congress. His declaration of a "state of emergency" in the USA allows him to bypass the normal controls of the US constitution. " The USA law does let him . Of course If the war is not lasting more than 7 days I guess . So it took only 25 minutes . | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The hypocrisy is astounding. Oh talk a little bit more sweet heart " You're the one continually bleating, doubling down on your pro war hypocrisy. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website Are you telling me that Grossy didn’t tell that??? Oh, I've no doubt Iran wants to get its hands on a bomb - it is the best way to deter aggression from nuclear-armed states such as USA and Israel. (The lesson from Libya is stark. Ghadaffi was persuaded to give up his clandestine programme, before being decpatitated by the very same people) But it is not evidence of an active bomb programme. Both the IAEA and US intelligence say there is no evidence of an active bomb programme." If you are certain about this, why are you looking for documents that will never materialize? Over the past two decades, Iran has misled regarding three primary enrichment facilities. They only acknowledged their existence after spies brought them to the attention of the IAEA. Why delay in seeking documents before it becomes too late? | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The hypocrisy is astounding. Oh talk a little bit more sweet heart You're the one continually bleating, doubling down on your pro war hypocrisy." What utter nonsense! I am referring to the mullah regime, and your interruptions claiming their innocence are truly astonishing. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The hypocrisy is astounding. Oh talk a little bit more sweet heart You're the one continually bleating, doubling down on your pro war hypocrisy. What utter nonsense! I am referring to the mullah regime, and your interruptions claiming their innocence are truly astonishing." Yes I know what you're referring to, and so do you- Israel's secret nuclear programme good- Iran bad. Massive hypocrisy on your part. | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website Are you telling me that Grossy didn’t tell that??? Oh, I've no doubt Iran wants to get its hands on a bomb - it is the best way to deter aggression from nuclear-armed states such as USA and Israel. (The lesson from Libya is stark. Ghadaffi was persuaded to give up his clandestine programme, before being decpatitated by the very same people) But it is not evidence of an active bomb programme. Both the IAEA and US intelligence say there is no evidence of an active bomb programme. If you are certain about this, why are you looking for documents that will never materialize? Over the past two decades, Iran has misled regarding three primary enrichment facilities. They only acknowledged their existence after spies brought them to the attention of the IAEA. Why delay in seeking documents before it becomes too late?" The documents you refer to are circa 2003. Years of negotiation lead to Iran signing an international accord that put nuclear weapons beyond its reach. In return, the P5 eased sanctions. Trump tore up the accord (he detested everything Mr Obama did). Now he complains Iran is out of control. This crisis is of his own making. And the parallels with Iraq are obvious. Dubious claims about WMD production stoking up international tension to justify war. | |||
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"I love the international experts on foreign policy and diplomacy who frequent Fabguys There isn’t any point going down the pub with this degree of talent on show.
Good to know that you are enjoying the topic, armchair experts abound, don't they? Your insightful commentary is duly noted.
Meanwhile, those actually engaging with the complexities of foreign policy might appreciate constructive input rather than sarcasm from self-proclaimed authorities on the sideline who've yet to contribute meaningfully to the discussion!!
"Your performative indignancy is entertaining but totally missed the point. 
The armchair experts are the ones hurling mud at each other in this thread who seem to know more about what’s going on than the governments involved and who seem to be able to counsel and coach said governments from the comfort of their bedrooms.
To suggest spaffing half baked theories gleaned from 4chan and the daily mirror is “engaging with the complexities” is both hilarious and the best confirmation of my point possible. Thank you | |||
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"And don’t forget the nuclear inspectors have not been allowed into Isreal! And why should they be? Iran permits IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The last verification visit was a few days before Israel started bombing them. Israel does not permit inspections of its facilities, so there is zero transparency of its activities. No that is not right .. after that visit Grossy stated that they cannot guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is solely for peaceful purposes. And they didn’t let him to visit other sites . What is the logic behind their transparency ??? Would you believe in mullahs , the dirtiest dictators in the world The report of the IAEA’s latest inspection a few days before bombing started is on the IAEA website Are you telling me that Grossy didn’t tell that??? Oh, I've no doubt Iran wants to get its hands on a bomb - it is the best way to deter aggression from nuclear-armed states such as USA and Israel. (The lesson from Libya is stark. Ghadaffi was persuaded to give up his clandestine programme, before being decpatitated by the very same people) But it is not evidence of an active bomb programme. Both the IAEA and US intelligence say there is no evidence of an active bomb programme. If you are certain about this, why are you looking for documents that will never materialize? Over the past two decades, Iran has misled regarding three primary enrichment facilities. They only acknowledged their existence after spies brought them to the attention of the IAEA. Why delay in seeking documents before it becomes too late? The documents you refer to are circa 2003. Years of negotiation lead to Iran signing an international accord that put nuclear weapons beyond its reach. In return, the P5 eased sanctions. Trump tore up the accord (he detested everything Mr Obama did). Now he complains Iran is out of control. This crisis is of his own making. And the parallels with Iraq are obvious. Dubious claims about WMD production stoking up international tension to justify war." My intention was merely to emphasise their deceit and to mention what Grossy stated upon his return from Iran about 7 or 8 days ago. The Iranian government even threatened him. | |||
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