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"Continuing the debate (sic), where is the actual evidence that proves Labour are practicing socialism? What precisely have independent commentators said that argues that the £28billion Green Investment is socialistic in nature? What has been said about the lack of a cohesive plan by those commentators who have no particular allegiance to a party? Critical thought rather than disgenuity. Labour in Wales for example being discussed without any thought of budgets imparted from tory administrations is sophistry par excellence. " A year in to this Labour government, the public do not feel hope for the future. He hasn't won the hearts and minds of the British people. | |||
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"Discuss 🤔" Why do people feel its necessary to end their posts with discuss? Are they used to dealing with school children aged 6 ? | |||
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"Discuss 🤔 Why do people feel its necessary to end their posts with discuss? Are they used to dealing with school children aged 6 ? " Ahem!! University exam questions sometimes end with "discuss" | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51]" Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. | |||
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"Discuss 🤔 Why do people feel its necessary to end their posts with discuss? Are they used to dealing with school children aged 6 ? " Lol, I thought exactly the same. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51] Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. " To be fair we flew these in because a MOD person pressed the wrong button( do they still have a job?), the others find their own way. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51] Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. I would rather think it was so expensive because that was a whole settlement scheme with flights and housing, rather different from other refugees. " | |||
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"Kick labour out of power now and save the country " With what? 14 years of Tory’s left the country in a stinking mess with £3+ tn National debt. If you think that Fartrage will save you, think again he’s only interest is publicising himself and lining his own pockets - look at his record as an MEP and now as an MP takes the money but can’t be arsed to turn up and do the job the public are paying him to do - too busy doing other paying jobs - the country would be well and truly screwed if he got in. That only really leaves the Lib-dems. They have made Gaines but not enough so far. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51] Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. " It would be more appropriate to send the Afghans to Pakistan instead ... Bringing them here isn't going to end well. | |||
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"There are some complete cxxxs on here, for 14 years we've been led down the garden path and been told bullshit but the xxxx still believe them " Arguably 35 years. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51] Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. It would be more appropriate to send the Afghans to Pakistan instead ... Bringing them here isn't going to end well. " Iran's sending its Afghans back. That'll be more buying a berth on a rubber boat. | |||
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"There are some complete cxxxs on here, for 14 years we've been led down the garden path and been told bullshit but the xxxx still believe them " Like there are some complete cxxxs on here who believe Labour are the answer to everything and hate anyone to have a different opinion. It's politics and we all have different views. Always amuses me that people go in about the 14 years of various Conservative governments. It was not an imposed dictatorship. They were elected four times over that period either as the largest party or with an outright majority. They got some things badly wrong. They missed opportunities and things didn't always run smoothly. But was it so terrible? Up until the last couple of years of Conservative rule, when they did lose the plot, things weren't that bad. If you think Labour are the answer then it must have been a pretty silly question. But hey that's politics and varying opinions. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 18/07/25 18:19:51] Did anybody notice the slip this week. £7 Billion to bring a few thousand Afghans into the UK. Makes you think about the real cost of the legions arriving daily. It certainly appears much more than we are being told. " I think your mixing up your Mail headlines Hun. 7billion is the maximum cost under gdpr (plus legal costs),that the 20k plus afgan allies who had data leaked exposing their complicity with UK forces and putting their lives and the lives of their family in danger, could claim as damages. (Assuming they are all alive. And get to make a claim And are not left in limbo because they might incriminate British troops for copying mercenary contractors committing war crimes. In other word ... Normal daily mail half truth innuendo and shit stirring)  | |||
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"WW3 is what we need . Would sort everything out " While the lads are away fighting they can have the warm and fuzzy feeling that back home their lass is getting a right seeing too by the latest boat arrivals, thank god they have the hotel rooms . The knee trembler in a back alley is never that rewarding  | |||
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"....ty. They got some things badly wrong. They missed opportunities and things didn't always run smoothly. But was it so terrible? Up until the last couple of years of Conservative rule, when they did lose the plot, things weren't that bad. " Sorry I think there is plenty of factual evidence that previous government oversaw a continuation of decline in the UK economically, massive rise in inequality. Drastic devaluation of countries wealth and hemorrhaging profits overseas with reduced taxes, including massive relative decreases in wages, standards of living education health and even longevity. I kid you not. They were a continuation of the previous Tory shit show. With Blaire as an interim stalking horse to curb the worst excess and make it palatable. Starmer is the same. Starmer's govt is labour or socialist in name only, and he has eviscerated the party leaving it's support almost as weak as the Tories but without such obvious Graft. Quite a feat. And now having wiped the floor with the mi5 plant the business class will crown reform as the new "people's" champion! I agree with some who say it's time to get angry. And demand workable plans and not sound bites. Amazingly the people saying this and actually comming up with some well thought out costed alternatives are the lib Dems and the greens! Not Starmer. Not reform and it has never been a feature of the Tories in last 20 years. | |||
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