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"No way I would grass my family. " If the shoe was on the other foot and someone shot your son, would you want someone to do there family member in. | |||
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"If my son did what he did I would dob him in reward or not " …knowing he will get the death penalty in Utah? Apparently he was going to end his own life, but was persuaded to hand himself in. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. " Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares." The state is our enemy? They provide the education, NHS, roads, sewers, libraries, employment What has the state ever done for us? | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy...." If that's your answer then you are the one in need of psychiatric help. | |||
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"Never grass it's better to sort ityourself " And we wonder why there is so much war and turmoil in the world. | |||
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"The alleged assassin was wearing a turtle suit in his mugshot photos, this means they've taken all his clothes away and he's on suicide watch. It doesn't necessarily mean he's in a suicidal state but it is being said that he threatened to do himself in to his dad but his dad convinced him otherwise. His dad is probably the reason he's still alive. According to my source, the cell he'll be in now won't have the usual wall with a door and a long thin piece of glass in it, that wall will be up to 90% glass and no toilet in the cell there will just be a hole in the floor. After sentencing the alleged assassin will serve his time in a super max facility which is supposed to be really bad in the State of Utah, if he gets the death penalty he will go on death row which is even worse." And death row in America could mean 20 years plus before getting the chop!! | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk" I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve." It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should be shot slowly | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk" No as there have been miscarriages of justice, but life should mean life. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should be shot slowly" How do you shoot someone slowly. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk No as there have been miscarriages of justice, but life should mean life." We have DNA evidence now. I would slowly shoot them. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk" Yes. For littering and texting while driving. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares. The state is our enemy? They provide the education, NHS, roads, sewers, libraries, employment What has the state ever done for us?" For most people do some mad psychotic killing, drugs have been their enemay no the state. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares. The state is our enemy? They provide the education, NHS, roads, sewers, libraries, employment What has the state ever done for us?" Being a grass cos of the state is not our enemy? Honestly if it was my son I would feel some protectiveness and try to sort him out myself or get him help. A death penalty? I would go through every avenue to make sure that was the last resort. That's my son and I love him no matter how he comes but if he did there would be hell from me until he's righted, turning him in is the last resort, he's my boy | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve." Difficult to reoffend when you're dead. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. Difficult to reoffend when you're dead." It is! But it's also difficult to be different and change who you are with a death sentence. I've known a few in hospital who've acted on instinct, in the moment, I'm not saying they're completely right in what they've done but circumstances... Everybody changes throughout their lifetime and so can criminals and I was in a hospital with criminals and they were right with me. We are not who we were for some...! I'm definitely changed from who I was 15 years ago so maybe they are too but take it with precaution and your own mind | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk Yes. For littering and texting while driving. And letting dogs shit in public and owners not pick up. Shoot their fucking dogs dead.. " And for sucking cocks and taking it up the arse while your wife doesn’t have a clue she is in an open marriage | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should slowly" No death penalty in the UK. God forbid anything happens to my children but if it did I want that person to suffer for the rest of his natural life, killing him removes that they are dead it's over for them not for the victims family. The penal system needs to be changed where prison isn't defended by human rights it should be a serious deterant. We should keep them alive. I'm not saying what state of of alive they should be kept in though. But I would hope every day they would wish they were dead and I would happily keep paying my taxes for that | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk Yes. For littering and texting while driving. And letting dogs shit in public and owners not pick up. Shoot their fucking dogs dead.. And for sucking cocks and taking it up the arse while your wife doesn’t have a clue she is in an open marriage " A bit strong for someone who says they’re into bi/married guys. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. " You are part of the problem. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares." Tell me why I shouldn't inform Police if I had evidence of someone who'd carried out a burglary, a robbery on an elderly person, an unprovoked assault or a sexual offence on a young woman? I'd be quite happy to provide information on anyone who'd committed a crime like that, rather than let them carry on walking the streets. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly " Although, of course, he hasn’t been found guilty of it. Yet. So he’s an alleged murderer. Utah’s death penalty is firing squad, so pretty quick. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy.... If that's your answer then you are the one in need of psychiatric help." Well said | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly " Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares." Just clip him round the ear and tell him “He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy” | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully." No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk Yes. For littering and texting while driving. And letting dogs shit in public and owners not pick up. Shoot their fucking dogs dead.. And for sucking cocks and taking it up the arse while your wife doesn’t have a clue she is in an open marriage A bit strong for someone who says they’re into bi/married guys." I was being as tongue in cheek as the posters above. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. " "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." " He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. | |||
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"Reports that it was the father who dobbed in hus son who shot Charlie Kirk. Does he get the 100,000 dollar reward and would you dob a family member for 100 grand? " If they hurt someone, yes for free! | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. " He's dead, no reason to hate him now | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Although, of course, he hasn’t been found guilty of it. Yet. So he’s an alleged murderer. Utah’s death penalty is firing squad, so pretty quick. " It’s lethal injection with the option of firing squad. They will go with the former. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now " I suppose that's also going to be your reason for not retracting your earlier post? | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. " The bible has context all of its own…and we know what that is. Surely a good debater would have pointed out that for some child rearing is more important than career and the opposite for some & convinced his questioner that one size does not fit all and it is possible to do both. Burning flags is Ok? Try doing that to the Stars and Stripes in front of a MAGA fan and see what happens…or even a regular US citizen. No hate needed. | |||
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"I doubt there was alot of other options available. We all know how the justice distance works in the USA. His father knowing and saying noting is obstruction in a case of capital murder he would be considered as an accessory after the fact." Are you sure about that? Police dramas are often quite inaccurate if that's where your knowledge comes from. In the UK it is not an offence to stay quiet if you know, and have evidence, that someone has committed a crime. | |||
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"Trumps administration is cascading down that people who say negative things about Kirk should be sacked from their jobs. Cancel Culture. " How hypocritical, the American right make such a big deal about freedom of speech and then cry when someone else uses it. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. The bible has context all of its own…and we know what that is. Surely a good debater would have pointed out that for some child rearing is more important than career and the opposite for some & convinced his questioner that one size does not fit all and it is possible to do both. Burning flags is Ok? Try doing that to the Stars and Stripes in front of a MAGA fan and see what happens…or even a regular US citizen. No hate needed." The bible is also utter garbage, so not much to be relied on there. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now I suppose that's also going to be your reason for not retracting your earlier post? " Absolutely | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now I suppose that's also going to be your reason for not retracting your earlier post? Absolutely " So much for integrity. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now I suppose that's also going to be your reason for not retracting your earlier post? Absolutely So much for integrity. " He can now do no harm, why waste the energy on a stiff? | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now " like many this last week you are taking quotes out of context to make someone, in this case a dead guy, look bad, anyone can have things they have said taking out of context and make them look bad, with a public speaker like Charlie Kirk with thousands of hours of off the cuff debates online it's so easy for any shit for brains dishonest mug to go through just a small section and take things out of context as has been shown in the last few days, there is nothing even remotely appropriate about that, it's just liars telling lies, try to be better than a liar. Yesterday I watched a debate of his where he staunchly defended gay people from a right winger. "Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay extremist" is the name of the clip, am not sure if I can post the Addy or Googling it will bring it up. Also worth looking at an interview with Dave Ruben who says him and his husband regularly spent weekends at Charlie home with his family. Tell liars to go get fucked | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now like many this last week you are taking quotes out of context to make someone, in this case a dead guy, look bad, anyone can have things they have said taking out of context and make them look bad, with a public speaker like Charlie Kirk with thousands of hours of off the cuff debates online it's so easy for any shit for brains dishonest mug to go through just a small section and take things out of context as has been shown in the last few days, there is nothing even remotely appropriate about that, it's just liars telling lies, try to be better than a liar. Yesterday I watched a debate of his where he staunchly defended gay people from a right winger. "Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay extremist" is the name of the clip, am not sure if I can post the Addy or Googling it will bring it up. Also worth looking at an interview with Dave Ruben who says him and his husband regularly spent weekends at Charlie home with his family. Tell liars to go get fucked " He's dead, so there will be no more of his pro-gay rhetoric- oity | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now like many this last week you are taking quotes out of context to make someone, in this case a dead guy, look bad, anyone can have things they have said taking out of context and make them look bad, with a public speaker like Charlie Kirk with thousands of hours of off the cuff debates online it's so easy for any shit for brains dishonest mug to go through just a small section and take things out of context as has been shown in the last few days, there is nothing even remotely appropriate about that, it's just liars telling lies, try to be better than a liar. Yesterday I watched a debate of his where he staunchly defended gay people from a right winger. "Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay extremist" is the name of the clip, am not sure if I can post the Addy or Googling it will bring it up. Also worth looking at an interview with Dave Ruben who says him and his husband regularly spent weekends at Charlie home with his family. Tell liars to go get fucked He's dead, so there will be no more of his pro-gay rhetoric- oity" *pity | |||
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"Reports that it was the father who dobbed in hus son who shot Charlie Kirk. Does he get the 100,000 dollar reward and would you dob a family member for 100 grand? " Not the money but the murder. | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now like many this last week you are taking quotes out of context to make someone, in this case a dead guy, look bad, anyone can have things they have said taking out of context and make them look bad, with a public speaker like Charlie Kirk with thousands of hours of off the cuff debates online it's so easy for any shit for brains dishonest mug to go through just a small section and take things out of context as has been shown in the last few days, there is nothing even remotely appropriate about that, it's just liars telling lies, try to be better than a liar. Yesterday I watched a debate of his where he staunchly defended gay people from a right winger. "Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay extremist" is the name of the clip, am not sure if I can post the Addy or Googling it will bring it up. Also worth looking at an interview with Dave Ruben who says him and his husband regularly spent weekends at Charlie home with his family. Tell liars to go get fucked " Or like most people with political grifting ambitions, he will say what fits his target audience and what fits with the agenda at the time… see Johnson, Lammy, Faridge etc etc | |||
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"That piece off well off shit killed a true and just man hope they execute him slowly Kirk was a right-wing white supremacist, sexist, homophobic bully. No he wasn't. He said a lot of things that people did not agree with, but he was not the things that you've said here. It's a sorry state of affairs that you can just write this stuff without justification. "opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” "It should be legal to burn a rainbow or [Black Lives Matter] flag in public.” "Young women, he said, are prioritizing “careerism and consumerism” at the expense of more meaningful pursuits. “Having children is more important than having a good career..." He was not homophobic, the bible quote is taken out of context, he was referring to how people cherry pick bits. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with burning flags, not sure what your beef is there. And the women and careers thing is where he was put on the spot and asked to choose which he saw as more important. He said he'd get in trouble whatever he chose, so picked having children while young and getting a career later. Go find someone else to hate. He's dead, no reason to hate him now like many this last week you are taking quotes out of context to make someone, in this case a dead guy, look bad, anyone can have things they have said taking out of context and make them look bad, with a public speaker like Charlie Kirk with thousands of hours of off the cuff debates online it's so easy for any shit for brains dishonest mug to go through just a small section and take things out of context as has been shown in the last few days, there is nothing even remotely appropriate about that, it's just liars telling lies, try to be better than a liar. Yesterday I watched a debate of his where he staunchly defended gay people from a right winger. "Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay extremist" is the name of the clip, am not sure if I can post the Addy or Googling it will bring it up. Also worth looking at an interview with Dave Ruben who says him and his husband regularly spent weekends at Charlie home with his family. Tell liars to go get fucked " Or like most people with political grifting ambitions, he will say what fits his target audience and what fits with the agenda at the time… see Johnson, Lammy, Faridge etc etc | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play?" But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. " Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. " Jews according to Charlie "Jewish donors have been the No. 1 funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now they're coming for Jews, and they're like, "What on Earth happened?" And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it." | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk" We can’t we signed up to Human Rights Act | |||
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"Reports that it was the father who dobbed in hus son who shot Charlie Kirk. Does he get the 100,000 dollar reward and would you dob a family member for 100 grand? " If a family member of mine behaved like that I would definitely report them, its murder for goodness sake | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. Nor would i. I would give him a bloody good hiding. He wouldn't be able to move for a week and get him psychiatric help. I would never hand my own over to the state. The state is our enemy. If my son looked like he was going to be a repeat offender, i would take care of it myself. Nothing is lower than a grass and only betrayal compares. The state is our enemy? They provide the education, NHS, roads, sewers, libraries, employment What has the state ever done for us?" Go and silently hold up a sign condemning Genocide in Gaza and you'll quickly find out how much of a friend the state is......  | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views." What a waste of time. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should be shot slowly" ...like sex offenders you mean? | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. " I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills. | |||
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"If my son did what he did I would dob him in reward or not " Me too. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should be shot slowly" It doesn't save money. The last time I looked into this, to execute a 20yr old male cost the State just over $5m. To incarcerate him for his entire life cost $2.5m. | |||
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"You truly see how gullible and manipulated people are when they defend a man who literally thinks their existence should be illegal, their rights should be taken away and incites people to attack and harm them, all because he says one or two things that fit their own bigoted views. Honestly, it's abhorrent " Quite. It's rather astounding isn't it? | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills." I'm disinclined to 'debate' with someone who comments "never heard of this person, do not engage with people like this this, no idea or care about...". Not really sure what you're going to bring to the table. | |||
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"You truly see how gullible and manipulated people are when they defend a man who literally thinks their existence should be illegal, their rights should be taken away and incites people to attack and harm them, all because he says one or two things that fit their own bigoted views. Honestly, it's abhorrent " For some reason this comment passed me by. I was probably too busy being gullible and manipulated, and bigoted, almost forgot abhorrent too! None of what you're saying is actually true, but you'll probably just go on saying it anyway. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. " You'd be an accessory if you didn't and end up in jail yourself. | |||
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"Working class society has this thing about dobbing in or grassing My wife had two women working for her one of whom was bang at thieving. The other (who had previously mentioned not grassing up in previous conversations)must have seen/known it but said nothing, choosing to keep quiet rather than tell my wife(her friend of four years) what was going off " What was the outcome? I hope she reported the thief to police, and sacked the other. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. You'd be an accessory if you didn't and end up in jail yourself. " You have zero legal knowledge. No one is legally obliged to report any such matter of this nature. Not reporting something does not make them an accessory. | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills. I'm disinclined to 'debate' with someone who comments "never heard of this person, do not engage with people like this this, no idea or care about...". Not really sure what you're going to bring to the table. " That was in response to your previous comment where you seem to think I was invested in running down an individual, I was not I was merely suggesting an alternative scenario for someone as a person, not a person who I had any particular opinion of one way or another. Well done | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills. I'm disinclined to 'debate' with someone who comments "never heard of this person, do not engage with people like this this, no idea or care about...". Not really sure what you're going to bring to the table. That was in response to your previous comment where you seem to think I was invested in running down an individual, I was not I was merely suggesting an alternative scenario for someone as a person, not a person who I had any particular opinion of one way or another. Well done" In which case, I go back to my previous comment, what a waste of time. | |||
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"Reports that it was the father who dobbed in hus son who shot Charlie Kirk. Does he get the 100,000 dollar reward and would you dob a family member for 100 grand? Not the money but the murder." Can you have both ? | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk I don't think so, I'm not sure what it would achieve. It would kill the most evil ans save a lot of money in the long run. They should be shot slowly It doesn't save money. The last time I looked into this, to execute a 20yr old male cost the State just over $5m. To incarcerate him for his entire life cost $2.5m. " One bullet is 50 cents surely | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills. I'm disinclined to 'debate' with someone who comments "never heard of this person, do not engage with people like this this, no idea or care about...". Not really sure what you're going to bring to the table. That was in response to your previous comment where you seem to think I was invested in running down an individual, I was not I was merely suggesting an alternative scenario for someone as a person, not a person who I had any particular opinion of one way or another. Well done In which case, I go back to my previous comment, what a waste of time. " Clearly a waste of time commenting on your posts since there is no debate from you, so I couldn’t agree more, there was me thinking a forum was about an exchange, apologies for overestimating you. | |||
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"Oh and the ‘I can’t be racist /mysoginistic, some of my best friends are black/I am married…also in play? But he wasn't racist or misogynistic, how about just accepting that is the way it is, instead of trying to twist it into what you want it to be? You'll be much happier for it. Perfectly happy thanks, I had never heard of this person prior to his death, I do not engage with people like this, I have no idea or care about his tendencies or opinions, I was merely suggesting a scenario different to the one you suggested that seems to fit with the general outline of his views. What a waste of time. I believe it’s a forum, for discussion… exactly why I posted. Well done good comeback/ debating skills. I'm disinclined to 'debate' with someone who comments "never heard of this person, do not engage with people like this this, no idea or care about...". Not really sure what you're going to bring to the table. That was in response to your previous comment where you seem to think I was invested in running down an individual, I was not I was merely suggesting an alternative scenario for someone as a person, not a person who I had any particular opinion of one way or another. Well done In which case, I go back to my previous comment, what a waste of time. Clearly a waste of time commenting on your posts since there is no debate from you, so I couldn’t agree more, there was me thinking a forum was about an exchange, apologies for overestimating you." You said it yourself, you hadn't heard of the guy, have no interest in him and so on. It's not like we're going to have much to talk about. | |||
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"No way I would grass my family. You'd be an accessory if you didn't and end up in jail yourself. You have zero legal knowledge. No one is legally obliged to report any such matter of this nature. Not reporting something does not make them an accessory." I’m in the US now, on holiday. Unsurprisingly, there’s been discussions about the legal implications of not disclosing crimes. In some states, it is illegal not to report a violent crime if you have information that could be used by law enforcement. It is rare though. In most states, there’s no such requirement. The issue is also clouded by the 5th Amendment. | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk" It was never a deterrent and one in four cases are unsound.... | |||
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"Should we have the death penalty in the uk It was never a deterrent and one in four cases are unsound...." DNA now tho | |||
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