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"Do you believe in reincarnation? Do we exist as a single soul that keeps regenerating? Do you believe you were once an ancient mesopotamian goddess, or maybe an Edwardian scullery maid? What would you like to be reincarnated as? " I bloody hope not. I don't want to come back. Once is enough. | |||
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"I do keep a mind (and an eye) open to things we can't currently explain 'scientifically'. In fact, I have experienced certain manifestations I can't quite explain 👻🧙♀️🪄 "Like in Toy Story ‘strange things are happening’. Had a fee happen to me. Reincarnation? Dunno, really but probs not. | |||
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"I'm fairly logical and scientific, but I would like to think we are more than just atoms. Maybe it's just a delusional self comfort, fear that we might never really be seen to exist otherwise. I intend to next reincarnate as a wombat." And poop in cubes? Googole wombat poop. | |||
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"I'm fairly logical and scientific, but I would like to think we are more than just atoms. Maybe it's just a delusional self comfort, fear that we might never really be seen to exist otherwise. I intend to next reincarnate as a wombat." You don't want to be a bear again? | |||
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"This stuff just brings the sceptic in me rushing to the surface. There's no way of proving it and nobody ever can" Thats the Beauty of it. | |||
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"This stuff just brings the sceptic in me rushing to the surface. There's no way of proving it and nobody ever can Thats the Beauty of it. " I would agree with this. We don't need to know and understand everything. | |||
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"I’ve had 3 white feathers arrive in my house since my husband passed away " Ever time I take my cushion and pillow cases off I get white feathers | |||
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"Do you believe in reincarnation? Do we exist as a single soul that keeps regenerating? Do you believe you were once an ancient mesopotamian goddess, or maybe an Edwardian scullery maid? What would you like to be reincarnated as? " There is not a single soul that comes back, you're not the same you when reincarnated as you are now, there is no such thing as a soul to come back. What comes back is enlightenment searching for itself again in a new body. We are very fortunate to be born into human bodies, it means we're getting closer. | |||
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"Reincarnation is a non starter where have all the souls come from? The population of the earth has increased exponentially since the Victorian era. Unless you believe the wheel of life concept and we can be reincarnated from animals te fingers just don’t add up"  more humans alive now than have ever existed in totality previously. So, is there a production line of new souls? | |||
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"Reincarnation is a non starter where have all the souls come from? The population of the earth has increased exponentially since the Victorian era. Unless you believe the wheel of life concept and we can be reincarnated from animals te fingers just don’t add up more humans alive now than have ever existed in totality previously. So, is there a production line of new souls?"No, just more and more tadpoles meeting ! | |||
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"... I intend to next reincarnate as a wombat. And poop in cubes? Googole wombat poop....." I did. ..... Images too. 😐 Well ... That's enough internet for tonight. Goodnight all. xxx | |||
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"Reincarnation is a non starter where have all the souls come from? The population of the earth has increased exponentially since the Victorian era. Unless you believe the wheel of life concept and we can be reincarnated from animals te fingers just don’t add up" That's not how it works, it's not a numbers game, the idea of a soul is a fantasy. You are not your soul. | |||
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"I’ve had supernatural experiences but I’m still a sceptic. I’d really love to believe there’s a better life after this one but there’s no evidence. " A better life after this is what Christians fool people with. It's not about waiting for a better life after, that doesn't happen, it's about accepting that all life is suffering and transcending that suffering through insight. The evidence for it is in enlightenment and that is achievable for all of us. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction." It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. " Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. " They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. | |||
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"I’d love to come back as a Golden Eagle the fact it lives so free flying over the Scottish Mountains without a care in the world away from people is so appealing 😁" As long as you're not scared of heights otherwise it might be better to be a badger. | |||
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"I’d love to come back as a Golden Eagle the fact it lives so free flying over the Scottish Mountains without a care in the world away from people is so appealing 😁 As long as you're not scared of heights otherwise it might be better to be a badger." Pmsl 😂 it ok thankfully heights don’t bother me at all Known my bloody luck I’ll come back as myself 🙄 | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. " Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. " You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind. | |||
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"…..”Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind.….” I think it probably can. " Fill your boots. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind. " It’s like you are looking in a mirror when you attack me because what you accuse others of is exactly how you behave, Now the topic: “reincarnation” cannot be argued with? Erm… care to cite any evidence whatsoever for reincarnation taking place? | |||
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"Well I have a feeling I've been here before 😂. 2 hours ago 😂😂" 🤣🤣 | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind. It’s like you are looking in a mirror when you attack me because what you accuse others of is exactly how you behave, Now the topic: “reincarnation” cannot be argued with? Erm… care to cite any evidence whatsoever for reincarnation taking place? " I'm not 'attacking' you, this is another of your methods, to exaggerate things, it's part of your conflict addiction. No interest in the subject matter, just winning an argument, funnily enough it's you that starts the argument more often than not. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind. It’s like you are looking in a mirror when you attack me because what you accuse others of is exactly how you behave, Now the topic: “reincarnation” cannot be argued with? Erm… care to cite any evidence whatsoever for reincarnation taking place? I'm not 'attacking' you, this is another of your methods, to exaggerate things, it's part of your conflict addiction. No interest in the subject matter, just winning an argument, funnily enough it's you that starts the argument more often than not. " 🤣 You seem to constantly write with no memory of what you have said in the past. Your missives are totally independent of anything you have ever done and you appear to expect impunity from being held to account for what you say. You also totally ignore anything that you can’t respond to then accuse the other person of not making any points. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"The only people who can be proved wrong are those who don’t believe in some kind of afterlife. If we all turn up then those of us who do can be smug and say “Told you” If there is nothing then none of us will ever realise it. " A good point, and I would ask, where are all the re-incarnated people saying I told you so? Must be beside all the time travellers. | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… " “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”] | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”]" It’s good fun though, watching the same glitching nonsense time after time. It’s a bit like a character wheeling out their catchphrase every episode in an endearingly saccharine American sitcom. I guess the difference is most sitcom characters are less hackneyed cliches. | |||
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"There are very clear reasons why Hinduism replaced Buddhism in so many of Buddhism’s original hinterland. I think people strive for more than life as suffering and the route out of that being eternal extinction. It doesn't matter what Hinduism does, or what you think people strive for, the truth is universal regardless. Suffering diminishes once you accept that. Do you mean that what you regard as the truth should be universally accepted by everyone? Because a lot of people would challenge your assumptions about enlightenment and the afterlife with equally grounded “truth”. They can challenge away all they want, it makes no difference. Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is. Nah, I only disagree when you are talking utterly transparent nonsense. Now I admit I disagree with you a lot, there may be a cause and effect thing going on there. As you will see, given you assiduously follow me round the forum carping at everything I write, I often agree and exchange ideas with people, but that only works when the other person has even the slightest of open minds. Again, we never seem to get into that sort of conversation, cause and effect? Who knows. You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind. It’s like you are looking in a mirror when you attack me because what you accuse others of is exactly how you behave, Now the topic: “reincarnation” cannot be argued with? Erm… care to cite any evidence whatsoever for reincarnation taking place? I'm not 'attacking' you, this is another of your methods, to exaggerate things, it's part of your conflict addiction. No interest in the subject matter, just winning an argument, funnily enough it's you that starts the argument more often than not. 🤣 You seem to constantly write with no memory of what you have said in the past. Your missives are totally independent of anything you have ever done and you appear to expect impunity from being held to account for what you say. You also totally ignore anything that you can’t respond to then accuse the other person of not making any points. 🤣🤣🤣🤣" You just argue for the sake of it, you don't give a stuff about reincarnation or any of it, you want the argument and you need to win in. | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”]" You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”] You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. " 🤣🤣🤣 How many threads have you contributed to recently only to have a go at me? More than plenty. Why is it one rule for you and another for everyone else? | |||
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"...You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. " Do you know what… I don’t feel ashamed. If the “vile” [you adore that word] Forum is problematic for you then you might need to safeguard yourself by stepping back. Do you feel belittled? That one’s on you. People aren’t forced to agree with your extreme views of things: this is an open Forum - dissent is allowed. I do worry about your fragility. Say a few “Nurture not nature!”s out loud and blow an Om Mani Padme Hum through your diaphragm to get to your happy place. | |||
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"...You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. Do you know what… I don’t feel ashamed. If the “vile” [you adore that word] Forum is problematic for you then you might need to safeguard yourself by stepping back. Do you feel belittled? That one’s on you. People aren’t forced to agree with your extreme views of things: this is an open Forum - dissent is allowed. I do worry about your fragility. Say a few “Nurture not nature!”s out loud and blow an Om Mani Padme Hum through your diaphragm to get to your happy place." Dissent is not allowed! Our correspondent posts the truth and if you don’t agree it’s because you aren't open minded enough and you are only trying to pick a fight. I wasn’t aware that Buddhism promoted such closed mindedness but I guess the path to enlightenment is a long one. Maybe in his next life as an earthworm he will have more time to broaden out and figure some of this. | |||
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"...You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. Do you know what… I don’t feel ashamed. If the “vile” [you adore that word] Forum is problematic for you then you might need to safeguard yourself by stepping back. Do you feel belittled? That one’s on you. People aren’t forced to agree with your extreme views of things: this is an open Forum - dissent is allowed. I do worry about your fragility. Say a few “Nurture not nature!”s out loud and blow an Om Mani Padme Hum through your diaphragm to get to your happy place." I use the word vile a lot because it best describes your behaviour. | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”] You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. 🤣🤣🤣 How many threads have you contributed to recently only to have a go at me? More than plenty. Why is it one rule for you and another for everyone else?" Clearly it's not, you have a very clear set of rules and you get your kicks from hitting people over the head with them. What do you do when you can't win an argument? Oh yeah, you go quiet and slink away to the next thread. Off you go. | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”] You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. 🤣🤣🤣 How many threads have you contributed to recently only to have a go at me? More than plenty. Why is it one rule for you and another for everyone else? Clearly it's not, you have a very clear set of rules and you get your kicks from hitting people over the head with them. What do you do when you can't win an argument? Oh yeah, you go quiet and slink away to the next thread. Off you go. " Still ignoring all the points in favour of just attacking people. The reason I keep disagreeing with your points is that they are unsubstantiated guff. Provide anything even slightly like evidence or an argument other than “I say so and it’s obvious” then people might start to be able to engage, but every time someone takes your points and tries to talk about them you have a little tantrum and start abusing them, ignoring the points made. But of course, it’s always the other person who is to blame. Not sure that was Buddha’s approach? | |||
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"...Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind… “Mindful meditation” works and is a “panacea to all mental health problems”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “There is no gay gene” and “homosexuality is from nurture not nature”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for these assertions - in fact it’s up to the counter-argument to demonstrate the existence of any gay gene. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. “Reincarnation is inarguably fact”. You don’t need to provide any evidence for it. Those who don’t agree just don’t have sufficiently open minds. [Have Forum regular readers detected a pattern yet..? “Don’t feed the troll any of your crisps, children…”] You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed. 🤣🤣🤣 How many threads have you contributed to recently only to have a go at me? More than plenty. Why is it one rule for you and another for everyone else? Clearly it's not, you have a very clear set of rules and you get your kicks from hitting people over the head with them. What do you do when you can't win an argument? Oh yeah, you go quiet and slink away to the next thread. Off you go. Still ignoring all the points in favour of just attacking people. The reason I keep disagreeing with your points is that they are unsubstantiated guff. Provide anything even slightly like evidence or an argument other than “I say so and it’s obvious” then people might start to be able to engage, but every time someone takes your points and tries to talk about them you have a little tantrum and start abusing them, ignoring the points made. But of course, it’s always the other person who is to blame. Not sure that was Buddha’s approach?" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? | |||
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"Reincarnation is indeed a fact in that we are made of atoms which are indestructible, and after death we will disintegrate and eventually return to being just atoms. These atoms will then be absorbed into one of the millions of hosts and become part of that entity which may be a blade of grass, an oak tree or an animal. This will continue for as long as there is life on earth. Every religion has its so called sacred texts which are simply excuses for murdering whoever it pleases them and the bible is right up there amongst the worst." You may be mistaking recycling for reincarnation there? | |||
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"Are they not the same thing???" Good question and I suspect there will be different views. For me incarnation is the production of a consciousness, potentially with a continuing thread of information. Whereas our atoms will be split down into the constituent parts of other things, some living and most inert. There will be no transfer of meaningful information in that process and no connection between the past animal and the future objects will be present. Just as we have absolutely no knowledge of the history of the atoms making our bodies today. Many people I am sure will argue that there is a connection and I would challenge them to evidence that and evidence that their claims are more than a desire for some sort of reassuring eternal link that makes us feel like there is more meaning in our existence than the random chemical reaction that it is. | |||
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"When the sun expands in a couple of billion years and destroys the earth where are all the reincarnated things gonna go ? " Interesting. 🤔 | |||
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" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? Yes, describing behaviour. If you don’t like it then I regret that but don’t see why reality should not be portrayed. The evidence is all above for everyone to read. Feel free to argue that it doesn’t exist when we can all see it. I'm not attacking anyone, having a tantrum or being abusive. This is another of your methods, gaslighting. Ah hahahaha the trademark quote of the floundering. Accusing anyone who says something they don’t like of gaslighting. You really are the full cliche. " You're like a broken record, it's the same pattern thread after thread. 'Something they don't like' in this case was you claiming I'm attacking and abusing, which are not true, hence gaslighting, but instead of holding your hands up and admitting to what you're doing you twist it again. This type of behaviour is very noticeable in those that emotionally manipulate and abuse their partners, it's horrible to see. | |||
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" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? Yes, describing behaviour. If you don’t like it then I regret that but don’t see why reality should not be portrayed. The evidence is all above for everyone to read. Feel free to argue that it doesn’t exist when we can all see it. I'm not attacking anyone, having a tantrum or being abusive. This is another of your methods, gaslighting. Ah hahahaha the trademark quote of the floundering. Accusing anyone who says something they don’t like of gaslighting. You really are the full cliche. You're like a broken record, it's the same pattern thread after thread. 'Something they don't like' in this case was you claiming I'm attacking and abusing, which are not true, hence gaslighting, but instead of holding your hands up and admitting to what you're doing you twist it again. This type of behaviour is very noticeable in those that emotionally manipulate and abuse their partners, it's horrible to see. " You know gaslighting isn’t just saying things that someone else doesn’t believe is true? | |||
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"I have to disagree with you, we certainly have no knowledge of the past history of the atoms from which we are formed nor do we need any, an atom is just smallest piece of any element and will be contained in the periodic table. An atom carries no consciousness and many are required to make 1 brain cell of which we have millions. Physics informs us that matter is indestructible so the atoms from which you are composed are indeed millions of years old and have been in many previous entities. I am stating facts and I am of course happy to hear any different opinions. I hope not to hear anything from that idiot with whom you have been communicating for some time." Your point is well made and interesting. I assume I am the idiot to whom you refer so apologies if it is annoying to respond to you. I’m curious about the constituent parts of atoms and the more we learn about their behaviour across space time is well beyond me but very exciting to hear about. | |||
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" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? Yes, describing behaviour. If you don’t like it then I regret that but don’t see why reality should not be portrayed. The evidence is all above for everyone to read. Feel free to argue that it doesn’t exist when we can all see it. I'm not attacking anyone, having a tantrum or being abusive. This is another of your methods, gaslighting. Ah hahahaha the trademark quote of the floundering. Accusing anyone who says something they don’t like of gaslighting. You really are the full cliche. You're like a broken record, it's the same pattern thread after thread. 'Something they don't like' in this case was you claiming I'm attacking and abusing, which are not true, hence gaslighting, but instead of holding your hands up and admitting to what you're doing you twist it again. This type of behaviour is very noticeable in those that emotionally manipulate and abuse their partners, it's horrible to see. You know gaslighting isn’t just saying things that someone else doesn’t believe is true? " I am not attacking and abusing. | |||
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" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? Yes, describing behaviour. If you don’t like it then I regret that but don’t see why reality should not be portrayed. The evidence is all above for everyone to read. Feel free to argue that it doesn’t exist when we can all see it. I'm not attacking anyone, having a tantrum or being abusive. This is another of your methods, gaslighting. Ah hahahaha the trademark quote of the floundering. Accusing anyone who says something they don’t like of gaslighting. You really are the full cliche. You're like a broken record, it's the same pattern thread after thread. 'Something they don't like' in this case was you claiming I'm attacking and abusing, which are not true, hence gaslighting, but instead of holding your hands up and admitting to what you're doing you twist it again. This type of behaviour is very noticeable in those that emotionally manipulate and abuse their partners, it's horrible to see. You know gaslighting isn’t just saying things that someone else doesn’t believe is true? I am not attacking and abusing. " Tell that to those who you stalk around the forum and try to continuously belittle and undermine with ad hominem attacks. | |||
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"I have to disagree with you, we certainly have no knowledge of the past history of the atoms from which we are formed nor do we need any, an atom is just smallest piece of any element and will be contained in the periodic table. An atom carries no consciousness and many are required to make 1 brain cell of which we have millions. Physics informs us that matter is indestructible so the atoms from which you are composed are indeed millions of years old and have been in many previous entities. I am stating facts and I am of course happy to hear any different opinions. I hope not to hear anything from that idiot with whom you have been communicating for some time. Your point is well made and interesting. I assume I am the idiot to whom you refer so apologies if it is annoying to respond to you. I’m curious about the constituent parts of atoms and the more we learn about their behaviour across space time is well beyond me but very exciting to hear about." NO you are not the idiot to whom I was referring, you made good points but all to no avail, this clown just ignored everything that you said and kept repeating pure nonsense.] | |||
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" 'Attacking', Tantrum' and 'abusing', do you see what you're doing here? Yes, describing behaviour. If you don’t like it then I regret that but don’t see why reality should not be portrayed. The evidence is all above for everyone to read. Feel free to argue that it doesn’t exist when we can all see it. I'm not attacking anyone, having a tantrum or being abusive. This is another of your methods, gaslighting. Ah hahahaha the trademark quote of the floundering. Accusing anyone who says something they don’t like of gaslighting. You really are the full cliche. You're like a broken record, it's the same pattern thread after thread. 'Something they don't like' in this case was you claiming I'm attacking and abusing, which are not true, hence gaslighting, but instead of holding your hands up and admitting to what you're doing you twist it again. This type of behaviour is very noticeable in those that emotionally manipulate and abuse their partners, it's horrible to see. You know gaslighting isn’t just saying things that someone else doesn’t believe is true? I am not attacking and abusing. Tell that to those who you stalk around the forum and try to continuously belittle and undermine with ad hominem attacks." The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. " You would say that, wouldn’t you? | |||
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"[I have to disagree with you, we certainly have no knowledge of the past history of the atoms from which we are formed nor do we need any, an atom is just smallest piece of any element and will be contained in the periodic table. An atom carries no consciousness and many are required to make 1 brain cell of which we have millions. Physics informs us that matter is indestructible so the atoms from which you are composed are indeed millions of years old and have been in many previous entities. I am stating facts and I am of course happy to hear any different opinions. I hope not to hear anything from that idiot with whom you have been communicating for some time. Your point is well made and interesting. I assume I am the idiot to whom you refer so apologies if it is annoying to respond to you. I’m curious about the constituent parts of atoms and the more we learn about their behaviour across space time is well beyond me but very exciting to hear about. NO you are not the idiot to whom I was referring, you made good points but all to no avail, this clown just ignored everything that you said and kept repeating pure nonsense.]" Which nonsense please? | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. You would say that, wouldn’t you?" See?! This is what emotional abuse looks like from a guy whose insecure and possessive and has to control everything around them. | |||
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"[I have to disagree with you, we certainly have no knowledge of the past history of the atoms from which we are formed nor do we need any, an atom is just smallest piece of any element and will be contained in the periodic table. An atom carries no consciousness and many are required to make 1 brain cell of which we have millions. Physics informs us that matter is indestructible so the atoms from which you are composed are indeed millions of years old and have been in many previous entities. I am stating facts and I am of course happy to hear any different opinions. I hope not to hear anything from that idiot with whom you have been communicating for some time. Your point is well made and interesting. I assume I am the idiot to whom you refer so apologies if it is annoying to respond to you. I’m curious about the constituent parts of atoms and the more we learn about their behaviour across space time is well beyond me but very exciting to hear about. NO you are not the idiot to whom I was referring, you made good points but all to no avail, this clown just ignored everything that you said and kept repeating pure nonsense.]" Ah apologies, usually when there is a clown, I assume it is me folks are referring to. 🤣 Too self obsessed! | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. You would say that, wouldn’t you? See?! This is what emotional abuse looks like from a guy whose insecure and possessive and has to control everything around them. " Emotional abuse? Calling out your utter nonsense isn’t emotional abuse, it’s holding you to account for your bullshit. Sorry you don’t like it and sorry you seem to have learned the victim’s lexicon but unfortunately don’t seem to know what any of it means. | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. You would say that, wouldn’t you? See?! This is what emotional abuse looks like from a guy whose insecure and possessive and has to control everything around them. Emotional abuse? Calling out your utter nonsense isn’t emotional abuse, it’s holding you to account for your bullshit. Sorry you don’t like it and sorry you seem to have learned the victim’s lexicon but unfortunately don’t seem to know what any of it means." And this is how you move away from the part where you accuse me of being abusive and attacking people so you don't have to admit you're lying. | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. You would say that, wouldn’t you? See?! This is what emotional abuse looks like from a guy whose insecure and possessive and has to control everything around them. Emotional abuse? Calling out your utter nonsense isn’t emotional abuse, it’s holding you to account for your bullshit. Sorry you don’t like it and sorry you seem to have learned the victim’s lexicon but unfortunately don’t seem to know what any of it means. And this is how you move away from the part where you accuse me of being abusive and attacking people so you don't have to admit you're lying. " What exactly are you talking about? Every single comment seems to be yet another totally independent topic where it is not obvious that whoever wrote it was involved in the rest of the conversation. Maybe you need to rest? | |||
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" The part where you say "the evidence is all above for everyone to read" is not true, but you're broadcasting that it is, that's you gaslightling. And there's your favorite phrase again too. You would say that, wouldn’t you? See?! This is what emotional abuse looks like from a guy whose insecure and possessive and has to control everything around them. Emotional abuse? Calling out your utter nonsense isn’t emotional abuse, it’s holding you to account for your bullshit. Sorry you don’t like it and sorry you seem to have learned the victim’s lexicon but unfortunately don’t seem to know what any of it means. And this is how you move away from the part where you accuse me of being abusive and attacking people so you don't have to admit you're lying. What exactly are you talking about? Every single comment seems to be yet another totally independent topic where it is not obvious that whoever wrote it was involved in the rest of the conversation. Maybe you need to rest?" This one here... "..in favour of just attacking people...you have a little tantrum and start abusing..." It's the same point I've made for several comments now. You said those words and they're not true. But you can't be seen to be wrong so you shift the topic away, again. | |||
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" This one here... "..in favour of just attacking people...you have a little tantrum and start abusing..." It's the same point I've made for several comments now. You said those words and they're not true. But you can't be seen to be wrong so you shift the topic away, again. " “Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is.” “You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind.” “You just argue for the sake of it, you don't give a stuff about reincarnation or any of it, you want the argument and you need to win in.” “You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed.” 4 comments, 4 ad-hominem attacks. As I said, it’s all above for anyone to read. You seem to think one rule applies to you and a different one for others. Gaslighting is trying to convince someone that they are experiencing a different reality to the one in front of them. Making you face up to your own reality isn’t gaslighting. | |||
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" This one here... "..in favour of just attacking people...you have a little tantrum and start abusing..." It's the same point I've made for several comments now. You said those words and they're not true. But you can't be seen to be wrong so you shift the topic away, again. “Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is.” “You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind.” “You just argue for the sake of it, you don't give a stuff about reincarnation or any of it, you want the argument and you need to win in.” “You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed.” 4 comments, 4 ad-hominem attacks. As I said, it’s all above for anyone to read. You seem to think one rule applies to you and a different one for others. Gaslighting is trying to convince someone that they are experiencing a different reality to the one in front of them. Making you face up to your own reality isn’t gaslighting. " They're not personal attacks, they are great descriptions of your behaviour, thanks for summing it up for me. | |||
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" This one here... "..in favour of just attacking people...you have a little tantrum and start abusing..." It's the same point I've made for several comments now. You said those words and they're not true. But you can't be seen to be wrong so you shift the topic away, again. “Some people would rather argue against everything than see reality as it is.” “You only agree with the people that don't argue with you. You have no interest in the subject of discussion, just in winning the argument, that is abundantly clear. Fortunately, the subject of this thread cannot be argued with, as you would see if you had an open mind.” “You just argue for the sake of it, you don't give a stuff about reincarnation or any of it, you want the argument and you need to win in.” “You're much the same, just come on here to pick holes and belittle people, it's a vile behaviour and you should feel ashamed.” 4 comments, 4 ad-hominem attacks. As I said, it’s all above for anyone to read. You seem to think one rule applies to you and a different one for others. Gaslighting is trying to convince someone that they are experiencing a different reality to the one in front of them. Making you face up to your own reality isn’t gaslighting. They're not personal attacks, they are great descriptions of your behaviour, thanks for summing it up for me. " 🤣🤣🤣 You really just don’t think you are to be held to the same standards as you hold everyone else to. | |||
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"Can I get a bag of salted caramel 🍿 please Noooo! Who knows what those caramels were before their reincarnation! " On their path to enlightenment apparently | |||
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"When the sun expands in a couple of billion years and destroys the earth where are all the reincarnated things gonna go ? " To a reincarnated Earth probably …..or one in a different universe , maybe they will reincarnate into a whole new species. I will wait to see with an open mind. | |||
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"Reincarnation is a non starter where have all the souls come from? The population of the earth has increased exponentially since the Victorian era. Unless you believe the wheel of life concept and we can be reincarnated from animals te fingers just don’t add up That's not how it works, it's not a numbers game, the idea of a soul is a fantasy. You are not your soul." What do you mean? Are you saying there is no soul? Because the mathematics says reincarnation cannot work without a warehouse full of new souls ready to fill the greater amount of bodies than the second hand souls can fill. It's just utter fucking nonsense from start to finish. At least Odin promised to rid the world of Ice Giants. I haven't seen any. Not even in the last couple of bad winters. | |||
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"Reincarnation is a non starter where have all the souls come from? The population of the earth has increased exponentially since the Victorian era. Unless you believe the wheel of life concept and we can be reincarnated from animals te fingers just don’t add up That's not how it works, it's not a numbers game, the idea of a soul is a fantasy. You are not your soul. What do you mean? Are you saying there is no soul? Because the mathematics says reincarnation cannot work without a warehouse full of new souls ready to fill the greater amount of bodies than the second hand souls can fill. It's just utter fucking nonsense from start to finish. At least Odin promised to rid the world of Ice Giants. I haven't seen any. Not even in the last couple of bad winters." There is no soul, it's not complicated, there is no You that comes back, all of you goes back to the fantasy that is sustained by you being alive. | |||
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"Yes i believe in it, I know of a monk who before he died predicted the name of the family he would next be born into and when, it all added up. You keep coming back until you get it right. Eh? Are you sure he didn't just know a woman who was pregnant?" Nope, hed never met the family, different countries. | |||
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"Yes i believe in it, I know of a monk who before he died predicted the name of the family he would next be born into and when, it all added up. You keep coming back until you get it right. Eh? Are you sure he didn't just know a woman who was pregnant? Nope, hed never met the family, different countries." Of course not, and of course it was exactly he who was reincarnated too. Not just a random baby. | |||
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"And again...we come down to that ever so troublesome subject of proof and evidence. " There is a third way, just accuse anyone who questions you of being an idiot or deliberately being argumentative! | |||
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"And again...we come down to that ever so troublesome subject of proof and evidence. There is a third way, just accuse anyone who questions you of being an idiot or deliberately being argumentative!" Next they'll be telling us we just don't WANT to believe. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example?" Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. | |||
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"And again...we come down to that ever so troublesome subject of proof and evidence. There is a third way, just accuse anyone who questions you of being an idiot or deliberately being argumentative! Next they'll be telling us we just don't WANT to believe." Wasn’t that Dana Scully? | |||
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"What's the point of dying "IF" there is life after death 🤣🤣🤣" Because death isn't really, life isn't real, it's all a fantasy, albeit a persistent one. | |||
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"What's the point of dying "IF" there is life after death 🤣🤣🤣" It’s like hell on earth and heaven. One has to go from one place t’ next. Hove to Brighton for example. | |||
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"What's the point of dying "IF" there is life after death 🤣🤣🤣 It’s like hell on earth and heaven. One has to go from one place t’ next. Hove to Brighton for example. " Ever tried Brighton to Calne? You have to go through a looking glass. | |||
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"Is there a more pointless discussion in the history of discussions. People who have true faith will believe in some kind of afterlife or reincarnation, whereas people who don’t won’t. And the two sides will never agree. There is, and will never be, any proof either way. Only anecdotal evidence in favour of an afterlife in some form. Personally, I’m inclined to try to believe there will be, because if I’m wrong, it won’t matter anyway because I’ll be dead." Yes, but you can reincarnate as someone and tell everyone ha it was like being dead. Dead easy, in fact. | |||
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"Is there a more pointless discussion in the history of discussions. People who have true faith will believe in some kind of afterlife or reincarnation, whereas people who don’t won’t. And the two sides will never agree. There is, and will never be, any proof either way. Only anecdotal evidence in favour of an afterlife in some form. Personally, I’m inclined to try to believe there will be, because if I’m wrong, it won’t matter anyway because I’ll be dead. Yes, but you can reincarnate as someone and tell everyone ha it was like being dead. Dead easy, in fact. " But then I’d be reincarnated so my beliefs would be correct 😁 | |||
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"If reincarnation is possible, I'd hope my next life would be better than the current one! And I'd probably want to be a woman. " I have to admit, a life of absolute impunity does sound good. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing." So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief | |||
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"We are all gods and all made of star material "I'm not | |||
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I'm not "To be fair, we are all made of stars. Nearly all the local matter which makes up the planets and all on the planets came out of old stars. | |||
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"Is there a more pointless discussion in the history of discussions. People who have true faith will believe in some kind of afterlife or reincarnation, whereas people who don’t won’t. And the two sides will never agree. There is, and will never be, any proof either way. Only anecdotal evidence in favour of an afterlife in some form. Personally, I’m inclined to try to believe there will be, because if I’m wrong, it won’t matter anyway because I’ll be dead." The difference with the Buddhist perspective is that you can find the answers here and now is this life, if you put some effort into it. A religious outlook doesn't give you that, they tell you that you'll receive your reward after death, which is clearly garbage. The proof is in the doing, but you have to actually do it to find out. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief " Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy." Fortunately, this is one topic where it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't change the truth and the more you argue against it the further from it you push yourself, just stop. | |||
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"It's crap guys! When lights go out, they are OUT. " But the light that has come from the source continues its journey either indefinitely or until it is absorbed by something. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy." Exactly, wishy thinking, nothing more. | |||
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"I don't believe in reincarnation if there was such a thing knowing my look I'd come back as me. That said I do believe that our soul/spirit goes on to some other place. Our bodies have electrical energy coursing through them it's only small but it's there in the brain and nervous system. Now, we can't create energy nor can we kill it and it doesn't just stop or fade away it has to be used somehow and even then it has to be used to produce something so I always wondered when we die where does that energy go , after all said and done none of us are right or wrong we just don't know..... yet" Entropy. The 2nd law of thermodynamics. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. " Surely mediation practice just shows that mediation can be done, or else follow your cycling example, because I can ride that shows I am moto gp champion. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy. Fortunately, this is one topic where it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't change the truth and the more you argue against it the further from it you push yourself, just stop. " What are you talking about and what gives you the right to tell other people what they can and cannot say and think? You might think you are Jesus, but I assure you, you aren’t. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. Surely mediation practice just shows that mediation can be done, or else follow your cycling example, because I can ride that shows I am moto gp champion." Nope, meditation leads to insight and insight leads to enlightenment, but you have to do it. Just as a moto GP champion could not have achieved that status without learning to ride. Anyone could be a champion, but only if they do it. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy. Fortunately, this is one topic where it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't change the truth and the more you argue against it the further from it you push yourself, just stop. What are you talking about and what gives you the right to tell other people what they can and cannot say and think? You might think you are Jesus, but I assure you, you aren’t." Clearly I'm not telling others what they can and cannot say and think. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy. Fortunately, this is one topic where it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't change the truth and the more you argue against it the further from it you push yourself, just stop. What are you talking about and what gives you the right to tell other people what they can and cannot say and think? You might think you are Jesus, but I assure you, you aren’t. Clearly I'm not telling others what they can and cannot say and think. " Your memory is awful, need I quote the text above, “…just stop” You write every single post as if nothing happened before that anyone will remember. Which given you are advocating for some weirdly agressive form of Buddhist antagonism is deeply ironic. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. Surely mediation practice just shows that mediation can be done, or else follow your cycling example, because I can ride that shows I am moto gp champion. Nope, meditation leads to insight and insight leads to enlightenment, but you have to do it. Just as a moto GP champion could not have achieved that status without learning to ride. Anyone could be a champion, but only if they do it." I had better get my helmet then. | |||
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"Nah you get the answer either way. If you want to invent a reality to make you feel better, it’s not an answer, you are just telling yourself it is to justify your flight of fantasy. Fortunately, this is one topic where it doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't change the truth and the more you argue against it the further from it you push yourself, just stop. What are you talking about and what gives you the right to tell other people what they can and cannot say and think? You might think you are Jesus, but I assure you, you aren’t. Clearly I'm not telling others what they can and cannot say and think. Your memory is awful, need I quote the text above, “…just stop” You write every single post as if nothing happened before that anyone will remember. Which given you are advocating for some weirdly agressive form of Buddhist antagonism is deeply ironic. " Thanks for quoting the text above, you didn't need to, because it doesn't show that I'm telling people what they can and cannot say and think. Also, it's you suggesting that I'm advocating an aggressive form of Buddhist antagonism, not me doing it. I don't understand why you've done that. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. Surely mediation practice just shows that mediation can be done, or else follow your cycling example, because I can ride that shows I am moto gp champion. Nope, meditation leads to insight and insight leads to enlightenment, but you have to do it. Just as a moto GP champion could not have achieved that status without learning to ride. Anyone could be a champion, but only if they do it." It still seems a leap, just the act of concentrating and thinking deeply proves incarnation is real. | |||
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"I have experienced in life that even in relatively mundane matters not all truths are proveable, so 8n sophisticated metaphysical matters this shouldn't necessarily be the bottom line so to speak. Example? Clearly there is not going to be a solid piece of evidence that will demonstrate the truth of reincarnation. While there is lots of anecdotal evidence, this is not sufficient for most people. The thing with Buddhism is that you actually have to do it to see the proof. It's like riding a bike, you follow instructions and learn that it's true a bike can be ridden, by doing it. Meditation has to be done to see the truth of enlightenment and reincarnation. The proof, the evidence that you need, is in the doing. So...zilch. just wishy thinking, like every other supernatural belief Nope, not zilch, do it and you'll get your answers, don't do it and you won't. The choice is yours. Surely mediation practice just shows that mediation can be done, or else follow your cycling example, because I can ride that shows I am moto gp champion. Nope, meditation leads to insight and insight leads to enlightenment, but you have to do it. Just as a moto GP champion could not have achieved that status without learning to ride. Anyone could be a champion, but only if they do it. It still seems a leap, just the act of concentrating and thinking deeply proves incarnation is real." It's not thinking deeply at all, it's the act of not thinking, but you have to do it a lot. Plus there are loads of positive side effects from it. | |||
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