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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! " I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. " No it isnt sad , its the world we live in . | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! " What is the relevance of the attacker's colour? | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! What is the relevance of the attacker's colour?"  | |||
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"What a sick country we live in" No, there are some sick people in the country we live in - just like any other country. | |||
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"What a sick country we live in No, there are some sick people in the country we live in - just like any other country." | |||
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"Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza" That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? | |||
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"Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester?" Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.] | |||
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"[Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.]" Can you export cultural sensitivity? It's tricky. I don't particularly like FGM, but I wouldn't want to try and stop it in Africa. That's a modest point, but what happens when it extends to the point of genocide. Cambodia was an extreme example. What did the West do to intervene? These things rarely work out as planned. | |||
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"[Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.]" That's rather disingenuous - the attacker could have targeted anywhere in the UK if that was the reason - but instead targeted a synagogue on Yom Kippur- they were targeted because they were Jewish | |||
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"[Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.] That's rather disingenuous - the attacker could have targeted anywhere in the UK if that was the reason - but instead targeted a synagogue on Yom Kippur- they were targeted because they were Jewish" .. Didn't the police ""raid"" a house close by..perhaps the attacker lived close by .. | |||
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"[Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.] That's rather disingenuous - the attacker could have targeted anywhere in the UK if that was the reason - but instead targeted a synagogue on Yom Kippur- they were targeted because they were Jewish" My statement was absolutely true so I struggle to understand why you describe it as disingenuous. I will make no assumptions on what motivated the attack but I will say that many thousands of Jews have utterly condemned the actions of Israel in this act of genocide.] | |||
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"[Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Because they are British and are complicit with Israel and others in the genocide being visited on the civilian Arab people.]" That's some strange reasoning, how w are these particular people complicit with anything? | |||
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"What a sick country we live in No, there are some sick people in the country we live in - just like any other country." | |||
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"Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester?" Absolutely nothing, but some people just see monolithic groups and don’t differentiate between two people living thousands of miles apart. The results are generally tragic and nonsensical like this. Jews are good people Muslims are good people. There are plenty twats which use both of these religions to commit horrifying acts, but they are the nasty ones, not everyone else. | |||
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"I did see a pensioner in the video with a hat and a walking stick watching all the action through the railings. It did not phase him. Probably fought in the war. A brave man and did make me chuckle. They dont like it up them Captain Mainwaring" The war started 86 years ago, to be old enough to fight in it, would have made the guy 100 or so. Highly unlikely some lad wandering about Manchester on his own is that vintage but your rose tinted view is very heart warming. There is hardly anyone alive who fought in WW2 now, but a lot of people dining off it. I remember burying my grandfather 3 years ago at the age of 98, and people being shocked how young he was when he started fighting in the war. | |||
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"I did see a pensioner in the video with a hat and a walking stick watching all the action through the railings. It did not phase him. Probably fought in the war. A brave man and did make me chuckle. They dont like it up them Captain Mainwaring The war started 86 years ago, to be old enough to fight in it, would have made the guy 100 or so. Highly unlikely some lad wandering about Manchester on his own is that vintage but your rose tinted view is very heart warming. There is hardly anyone alive who fought in WW2 now, but a lot of people dining off it. I remember burying my grandfather 3 years ago at the age of 98, and people being shocked how young he was when he started fighting in the war. " There have been conflicts since WW2 that British servicemen have been involved in - Korea and the Falklands to name but two. | |||
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"I did see a pensioner in the video with a hat and a walking stick watching all the action through the railings. It did not phase him. Probably fought in the war. A brave man and did make me chuckle. They dont like it up them Captain Mainwaring The war started 86 years ago, to be old enough to fight in it, would have made the guy 100 or so. Highly unlikely some lad wandering about Manchester on his own is that vintage but your rose tinted view is very heart warming. There is hardly anyone alive who fought in WW2 now, but a lot of people dining off it. I remember burying my grandfather 3 years ago at the age of 98, and people being shocked how young he was when he started fighting in the war. There have been conflicts since WW2 that British servicemen have been involved in - Korea and the Falklands to name but two." Indeed and that’s a good point. But that’s not what our friend meant, was it? | |||
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"Possibly someone not happy with what's happening in gaza That would be an idiotic reason for the attack, what does it have to do with the people of Manchester? Absolutely nothing, but some people just see monolithic groups and don’t differentiate between two people living thousands of miles apart. The results are generally tragic and nonsensical like this. Jews are good people Muslims are good people. There are plenty twats which use both of these religions to commit horrifying acts, but they are the nasty ones, not everyone else." | |||
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"I did see a pensioner in the video with a hat and a walking stick watching all the action through the railings. It did not phase him. Probably fought in the war. A brave man and did make me chuckle. They dont like it up them Captain Mainwaring The war started 86 years ago, to be old enough to fight in it, would have made the guy 100 or so. Highly unlikely some lad wandering about Manchester on his own is that vintage but your rose tinted view is very heart warming. There is hardly anyone alive who fought in WW2 now, but a lot of people dining off it. I remember burying my grandfather 3 years ago at the age of 98, and people being shocked how young he was when he started fighting in the war. There have been conflicts since WW2 that British servicemen have been involved in - Korea and the Falklands to name but two. Indeed and that’s a good point. But that’s not what our friend meant, was it?" Our friend? I am not your friend. I have never met you and will not meet you. | |||
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"As a Jewish person it was very sad to see yesterday’s actions, especially on the most important holiday we have. Of course it comes down to a bad egg, rather than a whole religion. It’s the same closed minded thinking that believes all Jews are pro-Isreal when that’s definitely not the case. " | |||
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"It now turns out that one of the Synagogue-goers who died was shot by police. I can't see the officer being at fault for this, it must be terrible for him. All blame lies with the terrorist." Hmm. Granted, quick decisions needed to be taken, but according to one report both the fatally shot and the wounded civilian were behind a door, trying to prevent the stabber from coming into the synagogue. Which suggests the bullets went through or past the stabber and easily penetrated the door. Did no-one even guess that the civilians were there? Don't the rules of engagement envisage such a possibility? | |||
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"Fancy calling your son Jihad "The father is reported to have been rather active in that area. | |||
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"It now turns out that one of the Synagogue-goers who died was shot by police. I can't see the officer being at fault for this, it must be terrible for him. All blame lies with the terrorist. Hmm. Granted, quick decisions needed to be taken, but according to one report both the fatally shot and the wounded civilian were behind a door, trying to prevent the stabber from coming into the synagogue. Which suggests the bullets went through or past the stabber and easily penetrated the door. Did no-one even guess that the civilians were there? Don't the rules of engagement envisage such a possibility?" These highly trained officers had milliseconds to make their decisions, being faced with a crazed terrorist who said he had a bomb strapped around his torso, which they could quite clearly see. Please don't second guess their heroic actions. | |||
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"Fancy calling your son Jihad
The father is reported to have been rather active in that area. "Idiot, his Father is a surgeon who has outright condemned his deceased son's actions. I don't expect he's having a great time of things at the moment either. | |||
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"I did see a pensioner in the video with a hat and a walking stick watching all the action through the railings. It did not phase him. Probably fought in the war. A brave man and did make me chuckle. They dont like it up them Captain Mainwaring The war started 86 years ago, to be old enough to fight in it, would have made the guy 100 or so. Highly unlikely some lad wandering about Manchester on his own is that vintage but your rose tinted view is very heart warming. There is hardly anyone alive who fought in WW2 now, but a lot of people dining off it. I remember burying my grandfather 3 years ago at the age of 98, and people being shocked how young he was when he started fighting in the war. There have been conflicts since WW2 that British servicemen have been involved in - Korea and the Falklands to name but two. Indeed and that’s a good point. But that’s not what our friend meant, was it? Our friend? I am not your friend. I have never met you and will not meet you. " If that’s your only argument then I notice you aren’t arguing with the substance of what I wrote? Just a childish point about semantics? | |||
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"It now turns out that one of the Synagogue-goers who died was shot by police. I can't see the officer being at fault for this, it must be terrible for him. All blame lies with the terrorist. Hmm. Granted, quick decisions needed to be taken, but according to one report both the fatally shot and the wounded civilian were behind a door, trying to prevent the stabber from coming into the synagogue. Which suggests the bullets went through or past the stabber and easily penetrated the door. Did no-one even guess that the civilians were there? Don't the rules of engagement envisage such a possibility? These highly trained officers had milliseconds to make their decisions, being faced with a crazed terrorist who said he had a bomb strapped around his torso, which they could quite clearly see. Please don't second guess their heroic actions." By calling them heroic aren’t you second guessing them too? Your first point is really well made though, this was a split second high pressure situation by all accounts I have heard, I don’t know how anyone else would have dealt with it. | |||
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"Tragic days work , We will no doubt have the million pound inquiry , what his motives where , did any others know his intentions, the reasons behind the rise in Jewish attacks. Why an armed officer shooting at a suspected man with a suspected bomb vest on missed by so much and if it had been real and he hit that the end could have been so much worse " There were only 3 shots fired, and I understand that at least one of bullets went through the terrorist and into the other guy. Quite why you think a bullet would have caused a bomb to go off I don't know. Are you some kind of expert? | |||
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"It now turns out that one of the Synagogue-goers who died was shot by police. I can't see the officer being at fault for this, it must be terrible for him. All blame lies with the terrorist. Hmm. Granted, quick decisions needed to be taken, but according to one report both the fatally shot and the wounded civilian were behind a door, trying to prevent the stabber from coming into the synagogue. Which suggests the bullets went through or past the stabber and easily penetrated the door. Did no-one even guess that the civilians were there? Don't the rules of engagement envisage such a possibility? These highly trained officers had milliseconds to make their decisions, being faced with a crazed terrorist who said he had a bomb strapped around his torso, which they could quite clearly see. Please don't second guess their heroic actions. By calling them heroic aren’t you second guessing them too? Your first point is really well made though, this was a split second high pressure situation by all accounts I have heard, I don’t know how anyone else would have dealt with it." You don't think the officers, putting their own lives on the line, were heroic? | |||
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" You don't think the officers, putting their own lives on the line, were heroic? " Has there ever been a recorded instance of an armed police officer being injured by anyone wielding a knife? The point of being armed is that they're maintaining a distance between themselves and the threat. Call it "heroic" if you like, but I wouldn't say that's "putting their lives on the line". There is of course all the psychological stress of being called upon to face and possibly end the life of someone who is a threat to others, and take very quick decisions, but that's a different matter. | |||
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" You don't think the officers, putting their own lives on the line, were heroic? Has there ever been a recorded instance of an armed police officer being injured by anyone wielding a knife? The point of being armed is that they're maintaining a distance between themselves and the threat. Call it "heroic" if you like, but I wouldn't say that's "putting their lives on the line". There is of course all the psychological stress of being called upon to face and possibly end the life of someone who is a threat to others, and take very quick decisions, but that's a different matter." Officers are in great danger in many situations and there's always the potential of them being seriously injured or killed. It's okay to speculate from the safety of your own armchair but there's always the potential of a suspect having several weapons, or an accomplice hiding in wait for them. With hindsight we know that his suicide vest wasn't viable, but the officers didn't know that at the time, and they were well in range if it did go off. There's also a potential for secondary devices and booby traps, terrorists all over the globe are well aware of their potential. | |||
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"Tragic days work , We will no doubt have the million pound inquiry , what his motives where , did any others know his intentions, the reasons behind the rise in Jewish attacks. Why an armed officer shooting at a suspected man with a suspected bomb vest on missed by so much and if it had been real and he hit that the end could have been so much worse There were only 3 shots fired, and I understand that at least one of bullets went through the terrorist and into the other guy. Quite why you think a bullet would have caused a bomb to go off I don't know. Are you some kind of expert?" No but as usual your condescending take on other forum users input tries to imply you are. My understanding of the scant statements released was the none combatant was hit by a bullet through the door , but the inevitable inquiry will put that speculation to bed in due time. | |||
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"Tragic days work , We will no doubt have the million pound inquiry , what his motives where , did any others know his intentions, the reasons behind the rise in Jewish attacks. Why an armed officer shooting at a suspected man with a suspected bomb vest on missed by so much and if it had been real and he hit that the end could have been so much worse There were only 3 shots fired, and I understand that at least one of bullets went through the terrorist and into the other guy. Quite why you think a bullet would have caused a bomb to go off I don't know. Are you some kind of expert? No but as usual your condescending take on other forum users input tries to imply you are. My understanding of the scant statements released was the none combatant was hit by a bullet through the door , but the inevitable inquiry will put that speculation to bed in due time." Yet you assumed the officer missed his target, and that the 'bomb' could've detonated if a bullet hit it. Just correcting your false speculation. | |||
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"This was a tragic and horrible incident and is deserving our total condemnation. To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit." Excellent whataboutery there. With regards to you questioning police AFO training, that's just a joke. Do you think they just hand out guns to whatever officer happens to be on duty at the time? 'All police forces in the United Kingdom have an AFO selection process, varying slightly between each force. As with many police specialities, all authorised firearms officers have volunteered for the role. Candidates are required to gain approval from their superiors before embarking on a series of interviews, psychological and physical fitness tests, medical examinations and assessment days, before permission to commence firearms training is given. There is no guarantee of success; candidates can be returned to their previous role at any point in training if they do not meet the required standard. Once authorised, AFOs must pass regular refresher training and retests in order to maintain their authorisation. Failure to meet the required standards can result in the officer having their firearms authorisation revoked. Health or fitness problems can also result in temporary or permanent suspension from firearms duties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorised_firearms_officer | |||
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"This was a tragic and horrible incident and is deserving our total condemnation. To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit." The problem being the incident happened in Manchester but there will be other radical individuals in other UK cities that there sole intention is to destroy a particular culture, faith And quite rightly the Jewish community are concerned/ fearful . What can the government do to protect, not sure! | |||
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"…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit..." In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. | |||
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"Tragic days work , We will no doubt have the million pound inquiry , what his motives where , did any others know his intentions, the reasons behind the rise in Jewish attacks. Why an armed officer shooting at a suspected man with a suspected bomb vest on missed by so much and if it had been real and he hit that the end could have been so much worse There were only 3 shots fired, and I understand that at least one of bullets went through the terrorist and into the other guy. Quite why you think a bullet would have caused a bomb to go off I don't know. Are you some kind of expert? No but as usual your condescending take on other forum users input tries to imply you are. My understanding of the scant statements released was the none combatant was hit by a bullet through the door , but the inevitable inquiry will put that speculation to bed in due time. Yet you assumed the officer missed his target, and that the 'bomb' could've detonated if a bullet hit it. Just correcting your false speculation." In your opinion | |||
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"Tragic days work , We will no doubt have the million pound inquiry , what his motives where , did any others know his intentions, the reasons behind the rise in Jewish attacks. Why an armed officer shooting at a suspected man with a suspected bomb vest on missed by so much and if it had been real and he hit that the end could have been so much worse There were only 3 shots fired, and I understand that at least one of bullets went through the terrorist and into the other guy. Quite why you think a bullet would have caused a bomb to go off I don't know. Are you some kind of expert? No but as usual your condescending take on other forum users input tries to imply you are. My understanding of the scant statements released was the none combatant was hit by a bullet through the door , but the inevitable inquiry will put that speculation to bed in due time. Yet you assumed the officer missed his target, and that the 'bomb' could've detonated if a bullet hit it. Just correcting your false speculation. In your opinion " Not just my opinion, it's there in black and white, just as you typed it. | |||
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"Fancy calling your son Jihad
The father is reported to have been rather active in that area.
Idiot, his Father is a surgeon who has outright condemned his deceased son's actions. I don't expect he's having a great time of things at the moment either."Do you mean the guy who praised the deadly Oct. 7 slaughter as a “miracle” — and called Hamas murderers “God’s men on earth"?  xx | |||
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"Fancy calling your son Jihad
The father is reported to have been rather active in that area.
Idiot, his Father is a surgeon who has outright condemned his deceased son's actions. I don't expect he's having a great time of things at the moment either.
Do you mean the guy who praised the deadly Oct. 7 slaughter as a “miracle” — and called Hamas murderers “God’s men on earth"? xx"Currently 'away' in Sudan. Perhaps he should stay there. | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. " the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!!" Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in. | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in." As someone who doesn't believe in a 'supreme being', or any other imaginary entity, why should we favour Christians over anyone else? | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in. As someone who doesn't believe in a 'supreme being', or any other imaginary entity, why should we favour Christians over anyone else?" 👏👍👍👍 I fully agree with you.] | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in. As someone who doesn't believe in a 'supreme being', or any other imaginary entity, why should we favour Christians over anyone else?" Probably due to the level of risk for Christians in Syria - I know two who had to flee the country solely due to their beliefs. | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in. As someone who doesn't believe in a 'supreme being', or any other imaginary entity, why should we favour Christians over anyone else?" Common sense to do so. | |||
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"What happened in Manchester is truly awful. What is happening in Gaza is also truly awful. Neither can never be used to justify the other. Suggesting that attacks on Jewish people are justified because of the actions of the Israeli government is playing old-fashioned antisemitism. Equally true though is that saying that attacks on the Palestinian people are justified because of the actions of Hamas is plain old-fashioned Islamophobia. The attacker in Manchester hates people because of the social religious and ethnic group from which they come. Hardline members of these Israeli cabinet hate people because of the social religious and ethnic groups from which they come. They may view each other as enemies, but the similarity of their thought processes is profoundly shocking. Both actions barbaric and criminal: we should rightly condemn the actions of both and support the victims of each." I fully agree with you that the genocide being carried out by Israel and this attack are criminal, so how do you feel about your government being complicit in the crimes of Israel?] | |||
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"If he’s white his name will be on every news channel before he’s even arrested! I wondered who would be the first to speak about the race of the attacker. How sad. the race of the attacker is very relevant you idiot !!! Hes Syrian Muslim, the difficult thing is that there are Syrian Christians in need of asylum and we should be taking them in. As someone who doesn't believe in a 'supreme being', or any other imaginary entity, why should we favour Christians over anyone else?" Amen brother! We are all humans and we all deserve charity and humanity equally. | |||
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"…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit... In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. " Thank you for noticing that I often condemn the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent mostly women and children, turning their homes and hospitals into rubble, and starving two million innocent people to the point of death, I am pleased that my finding this objectionable has caught your eye. You seem to think that we should be in some kind of awe at what you’re police consider highly trained to mean but most people will have watched the panorama programme where they were clearly exposed for racist scum that they are.] | |||
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"[I fully agree with you that the genocide being carried out by Israel and this attack are criminal, so how do you feel about your government being complicit in the crimes of Israel?]" I am Irish and I fully agree that the current coalition has shown great leadership internationally on this issue. The opposition is broadly supportive. I would like them to go further in holding the Israeli government accountable but I can see that with South Africa and Spain, Ireland has had amongst the loudest non-Arab voices in support of the Palestinian peoples. The worrying news of IDF grenades being aimed at Irish defence forces deployed in the Lebanon was unsettling but thankfully no blue-helmets were injured. However the incident has galvanised support for peace making and peace keeping efforts. The recent presidential debate showed clear differences between the three candidates who agree about little, but all three were united in condemnation of the Israeli government’s actions. Indeed the received wisdom in Dublin is that no candidate is electable for any office, let alone the highest, if they are not in tune with the public mood on this topic. The Irish government is staunchly against the activities of Hamas too. It is clear that two wrongs do not make a right and hold publically that both politically motivated hostage taking/kidn@pping/ execution/r@pe and the collective punishment of non-involved person for those offences are each war crimes. I recognise that your UK government has been behind the curve on this but am happy that stronger actions have been taken of late. I do think it should do more. Much as I - as a guest in Britain - do not feel it is my job to scold the UK government, I think the country of my residence has a lot to learn from the country of my birth on this one. | |||
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"[I fully agree with you that the genocide being carried out by Israel and this attack are criminal, so how do you feel about your government being complicit in the crimes of Israel?] I am Irish and I fully agree that the current coalition has shown great leadership internationally on this issue. The opposition is broadly supportive. I would like them to go further in holding the Israeli government accountable but I can see that with South Africa and Spain, Ireland has had amongst the loudest non-Arab voices in support of the Palestinian peoples. The worrying news of IDF grenades being aimed at Irish defence forces deployed in the Lebanon was unsettling but thankfully no blue-helmets were injured. However the incident has galvanised support for peace making and peace keeping efforts. The recent presidential debate showed clear differences between the three candidates who agree about little, but all three were united in condemnation of the Israeli government’s actions. Indeed the received wisdom in Dublin is that no candidate is electable for any office, let alone the highest, if they are not in tune with the public mood on this topic. The Irish government is staunchly against the activities of Hamas too. It is clear that two wrongs do not make a right and hold publically that both politically motivated hostage taking/kidn@pping/ execution/r@pe and the collective punishment of non-involved person for those offences are each war crimes. I recognise that your UK government has been behind the curve on this but am happy that stronger actions have been taken of late. I do think it should do more. Much as I - as a guest in Britain - do not feel it is my job to scold the UK government, I think the country of my residence has a lot to learn from the country of my birth on this one. " There is a long history of this. The IRA leadership was secretly collaborating with the Nazis during the Second World War. | |||
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"[…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit... In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. Thank you for noticing that I often condemn the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent mostly women and children, turning their homes and hospitals into rubble, and starving two million innocent people to the point of death, I am pleased that my finding this objectionable has caught your eye. You seem to think that we should be in some kind of awe at what you’re police consider highly trained to mean but most people will have watched the panorama programme where they were clearly exposed for racist scum that they are.] " So we have police marksmen dispatched instantaneously and arriving in minutes to a scene of mayhem where a madman is hacking at Jews with what clearly could be a bomb-belt and fighting to get through the barricaded doors of the synagogue to the screaming people inside… and this is your take..? To condemn the UK police and Israel..? No clear unambiguous words of comdemnation about the sick racist scum killing the Jews - just an opportunity to grandstand about the evils of Israel and call the police racist scum. The victims just collateral damage in your pontificating racial politics. Dear Fucking Christ… we have such a major problem in this country now. Stick your stupid bloody [ [ ] ] where the sun doesn’t shine. | |||
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"[…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit... In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. Thank you for noticing that I often condemn the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent mostly women and children, turning their homes and hospitals into rubble, and starving two million innocent people to the point of death, I am pleased that my finding this objectionable has caught your eye. You seem to think that we should be in some kind of awe at what you’re police consider highly trained to mean but most people will have watched the panorama programme where they were clearly exposed for racist scum that they are.] So we have police marksmen dispatched instantaneously and arriving in minutes to a scene of mayhem where a madman is hacking at Jews with what clearly could be a bomb-belt and fighting to get through the barricaded doors of the synagogue to the screaming people inside… and this is your take..? To condemn the UK police and Israel..? No clear unambiguous words of comdemnation about the sick racist scum killing the Jews - just an opportunity to grandstand about the evils of Israel and call the police racist scum. The victims just collateral damage in your pontificating racial politics. Dear Fucking Christ… we have such a major problem in this country now. Stick your stupid bloody [ [ ] ] where the sun doesn’t shine. " I am sure if you search your local charities you will find one that will help you to read which is clearly a problem for you. Good luck with your in devour.] | |||
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"[[…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit... In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. Thank you for noticing that I often condemn the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent mostly women and children, turning their homes and hospitals into rubble, and starving two million innocent people to the point of death, I am pleased that my finding this objectionable has caught your eye. You seem to think that we should be in some kind of awe at what you’re police consider highly trained to mean but most people will have watched the panorama programme where they were clearly exposed for racist scum that they are.] So we have police marksmen dispatched instantaneously and arriving in minutes to a scene of mayhem where a madman is hacking at Jews with what clearly could be a bomb-belt and fighting to get through the barricaded doors of the synagogue to the screaming people inside… and this is your take..? To condemn the UK police and Israel..? No clear unambiguous words of comdemnation about the sick racist scum killing the Jews - just an opportunity to grandstand about the evils of Israel and call the police racist scum. The victims just collateral damage in your pontificating racial politics. Dear Fucking Christ… we have such a major problem in this country now. Stick your stupid bloody [ [ ] ] where the sun doesn’t shine. I am sure if you search your local charities you will find one that will help you to read which is clearly a problem for you. Good luck with your in devour.]" That rejoinder rather sums you up nicely. Supremely posturing but fumbling in accuracy. | |||
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"One thing i ask myself is this, the two people who died at the scene, what did they have to do with the conflict in Gaza?. does anyone know what their views were?. Were they culpable because they were Jews?. Why was David Lammy singled out for abuse?. What about the Tories who have sold billions of pounds worth of arms to Israel before Labour got in to power, not worth a mention.?." Exactly this. | |||
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"[[…To describe that police officer as “highly trained” is just ridiculous but what we are expected to accept from these so called security forces. Bear in mind that in the same 24 hours 82 civilian men women and children were slaughtered in Gaza by the Israeli butchers with whom our government is fully complicit... In a Forum far too prone to glib commentary about the reality of life and far too comfortable with the casual wearing of anti-Semitism like a showy pashmina… this is a pretty revolting example of the genre. But then again you have form. Thank you for noticing that I often condemn the murdering of tens of thousands of innocent mostly women and children, turning their homes and hospitals into rubble, and starving two million innocent people to the point of death, I am pleased that my finding this objectionable has caught your eye. You seem to think that we should be in some kind of awe at what you’re police consider highly trained to mean but most people will have watched the panorama programme where they were clearly exposed for racist scum that they are.] So we have police marksmen dispatched instantaneously and arriving in minutes to a scene of mayhem where a madman is hacking at Jews with what clearly could be a bomb-belt and fighting to get through the barricaded doors of the synagogue to the screaming people inside… and this is your take..? To condemn the UK police and Israel..? No clear unambiguous words of comdemnation about the sick racist scum killing the Jews - just an opportunity to grandstand about the evils of Israel and call the police racist scum. The victims just collateral damage in your pontificating racial politics. Dear Fucking Christ… we have such a major problem in this country now. Stick your stupid bloody [ [ ] ] where the sun doesn’t shine. I am sure if you search your local charities you will find one that will help you to read which is clearly a problem for you. Good luck with your in devour.] That rejoinder rather sums you up nicely. Supremely posturing but fumbling in accuracy. " I just have to laugh at the nonsense you keep posting, have you had any success in finding a charity that will teach you to read?.] | |||
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"I have to use brackets to get the post to load, is there another way?" There's the orthodox non-bracket method. | |||
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"I have to use brackets to get the post to load, is there another way?" I pm’d you to show you a screenshot of how it should appear when typing. And to try to avoid going off topic too much, | |||
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"I have to use brackets to get the post to load, is there another way? There's the orthodox non-bracket method. " Orthodox… Orthodox..? Not… Haredi Judaism..?! 🫨 *”Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!”* | |||
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"I have to use brackets to get the post to load, is there another way? There's the orthodox non-bracket method. Orthodox… Orthodox..? Not… Haredi Judaism..?! 🫨 *”Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!”* " He's just a Two-Bracket Solution kind of guy. #LOST-IN-BRACKETS | |||
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"Stop the Boats " Ahh he’s back with the troll lines. It always feels better when there is a random guy just yelling what the telegraph tells him to yell. | |||
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"I have to use brackets to get the post to load, is there another way? There's the orthodox non-bracket method. " He's half of Hinge & Bracket, fully orthodox. | |||
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"Stop the Boats Ahh he’s back with the troll lines. It always feels better when there is a random guy just yelling what the telegraph tells him to yell." Of course if you dont agree with another's point of view then just slag them off. Typical Remainer tactics | |||
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"Stop the Boats Ahh he’s back with the troll lines. It always feels better when there is a random guy just yelling what the telegraph tells him to yell. Of course if you dont agree with another's point of view then just slag them off. Typical Remainer tactics " Take a look in the mirror pal, you know exactly what you are doing and you know exactly what you are saying. You spend your time here writing deliberately antagonising comments and now act all hurt when it’s pointed out. Don’t pretend you are some sort of victim. If we had remained, there would be no boats. Even the tories acknowledge that. 🤣 | |||
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"Stop the Boats Ahh he’s back with the troll lines. It always feels better when there is a random guy just yelling what the telegraph tells him to yell. Of course if you dont agree with another's point of view then just slag them off. Typical Remainer tactics Take a look in the mirror pal, you know exactly what you are doing and you know exactly what you are saying. You spend your time here writing deliberately antagonising comments and now act all hurt when it’s pointed out. Don’t pretend you are some sort of victim. If we had remained, there would be no boats. Even the tories acknowledge that. 🤣" I rest my case... | |||
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"Stop the Boats Ahh he’s back with the troll lines. It always feels better when there is a random guy just yelling what the telegraph tells him to yell. Of course if you dont agree with another's point of view then just slag them off. Typical Remainer tactics Take a look in the mirror pal, you know exactly what you are doing and you know exactly what you are saying. You spend your time here writing deliberately antagonising comments and now act all hurt when it’s pointed out. Don’t pretend you are some sort of victim. If we had remained, there would be no boats. Even the tories acknowledge that. 🤣 I rest my case... " You haven't even presented a case. | |||
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" I rest my case... " You don’t have a case my friend. You are just writing random GBN Bingo lines. | |||
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