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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I love a good conversation too X

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"I love a good conversation too X"

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win?

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By *3versMan
6 weeks ago

glasgow


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

Best contestant everrrrr

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I think Comme d'habitude would be recognised as a French original song X

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By *owzerMan
6 weeks ago

Chester.....


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

He should sing Puppet on a String with Putin on backing vocals

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win?

Best contestant everrrrr"

Period!

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

Jacques Revaux

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

he wrote my way

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"he wrote my way"

Should be good for high votes from the old French then

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By *eekingcumsMan
6 weeks ago

Stoke/Stafford

Would he win?....

Certainly, Musk would rig the vote

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I was shocked when I found out "my way" was a french song called Comme d'habitude. Frank Sinatra and Gilbert Becaud did great versions too

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"I was shocked when I found out "my way" was a french song called Comme d'habitude. Frank Sinatra and Gilbert Becaud did great versions too "

Our very own David Bowie was the first person to to write an English version of the original French song "Comme d'habitude," which he called "Even a Fool Learns to Love," but his version was rejected and never commercially released.

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading

So then he wrote Life On Mars instead

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

nice, thank you will have to have a listen

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By *bonybucksMan
6 weeks ago

High Wycombe

Yes me too. It makes the person more attractive to me

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

and its nice to make friends along the way X

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading

I hope that everyone is now feeling sufficiently satisfied in the Intellectual Stimulation dept.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I have questions.. do you have to have the last word?

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

if you can't engage me intellectually you won't engage me physically.

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By *enri du lacMan
6 weeks ago

Coventry


"Jacques Revaux"

Gilles Thibaut co-wrote the lyrics of "Comme d'habitude" with popular French singer Claude François, who tragically electrocuted himself in his Paris flat in 1978 aged only 39.

Paul Anka created the lyrics to "My Way".

François also performed French language versions of original English language songs.

For example: he sang "Cette année-là" to the tune of the Four Seasons hit "December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)".

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By *bear67Man
6 weeks ago

Aldershot


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If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

No, I think the wind machine would blow his toupée off.

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By *iggreenockMan
6 weeks ago

Greenock


"I love a good conversation too X"

Did we miss the first post?

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win?

No, I think the wind machine would blow his toupée off."

He'd have a MAGA cap on to prevent sudden hairstyle loss during his performance.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I stand corrected, yet again. I was amazed when I found out it was a french song

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"I love a good conversation too X

Did we miss the first post? "

No .... The thread was instantly thrust into that intellectually stimulating statement.

Were he still with us, Auguste Rodin would have instantly reached for his hammer and chisel at the profundity of it all.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

so, donald trump singing a French song in a competition no I don't think he'd win

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

will have a think about Auguste Rodin

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"so, donald trump singing a French song in a competition no I don't think he'd win "

He would eschew the French original in favour of the proper Sinatra-Style version ... and incorporate his little dance .... The camp crowd would lap it up!

Plus ... 'Realpolitik' - Any country that didn't give him top marks would soon find itself hit with higher export tariffs.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

I liked him -Monument to Balzac was a bit controversial though..

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

after reading your comments, maybe I don't like him

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

hmmm intellectual posts turn me on X

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

still on me tod but hopefully..

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By *enri du lacMan
6 weeks ago

Coventry

Interestingly (!):

Claude François - who, as I mentioned above, sang "Comme d'habitude" - started his singing career in the fashionable French resort of Juan-les-Pins ...

... which was referenced in the lyrics of the song "Where Do You Go To (My Lovely)?" by Peter Sarstedt ...

... who died on the 82nd anniversary of the birth of Elvis Presley ...

... who sang the song "My Boy", which was an English language cover version of the French song "Parce que je t'aime, mon enfant" ...

... which was originally sung by ...

... Claude François.

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By *lackbootzMan
6 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin "

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

"

I fear that he has become involuntarily dumbstruck in a state of sapiosexual reverie BB ... If only someone could snap him out of it by way of a sensitive reading of one of Bertrand Russell's more digestible musings.

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By *lackbootzMan
6 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

I fear that he has become involuntarily dumbstruck in a state of sapiosexual reverie BB ... If only someone could snap him out of it by way of a sensitive reading of one of Bertrand Russell's more digestible musings. "

I’m not sure I’d rush to ply anyone in the Forum with Bertrand Russell, even in spite.

(On saying that, there is some interesting stuff amongst his interplay with Gilbert Murray which I was researching a few years back.)

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By *ountainMan
6 weeks ago

ipswich

Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation.

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

I fear that he has become involuntarily dumbstruck in a state of sapiosexual reverie BB ... If only someone could snap him out of it by way of a sensitive reading of one of Bertrand Russell's more digestible musings.

I’m not sure I’d rush to ply anyone in the Forum with Bertrand Russell, even in spite.

(On saying that, there is some interesting stuff amongst his interplay with Gilbert Murray which I was researching a few years back.)

"

There you go ... There's often sun-ripened wheat to be found amongst even the most unpalatable pile of dried husks.

Ahhh, dear Gilly. Now there was a man who knew his way around a Greek tragedy.

Although he must also bear some responsibility for the existence of Polly Tonybee ... Swings and roundabouts, I guess.

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation. "

"... And as my fully tumnescent toddger reamed out their pale attenuated throat, causing it to bulge obscenely at every, some might say, 'spiteful' down-stroke .... It was only then that their panic-stricken eyes somehow conveyed far more to me than they had ever managed to do by way of words. We finally understood one another perfectly."

[James Joyce - Long Weekend in Maidenhead]

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By *ountainMan
6 weeks ago

ipswich


"Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation.

"... And as my fully tumnescent toddger reamed out their pale attenuated throat, causing it to bulge obscenely at every, some might say, 'spiteful' down-stroke .... It was only then that their panic-stricken eyes somehow conveyed far more to me than they had ever managed to do by way of words. We finally understood one another perfectly."

[James Joyce - Long Weekend in Maidenhead]

"

I've tried to read Joyce, it's a difficult style of writing to understand

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation.

"... And as my fully tumnescent toddger reamed out their pale attenuated throat, causing it to bulge obscenely at every, some might say, 'spiteful' down-stroke .... It was only then that their panic-stricken eyes somehow conveyed far more to me than they had ever managed to do by way of words. We finally understood one another perfectly."

[James Joyce - Long Weekend in Maidenhead]

I've tried to read Joyce, it's a difficult style of writing to understand

"

I hope you got the general drift of the purple passage I quoted Tweety

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By *lexieMan
6 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

Cor blimey, ain't arf some biggish words in this ere fred tha. I canna ger a andle on? Caint yu lot narra spoke queens?

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By *enri du lacMan
6 weeks ago

Coventry


"Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation.

"... And as my fully tumnescent toddger reamed out their pale attenuated throat, causing it to bulge obscenely at every, some might say, 'spiteful' down-stroke .... It was only then that their panic-stricken eyes somehow conveyed far more to me than they had ever managed to do by way of words. We finally understood one another perfectly."

[James Joyce - Long Weekend in Maidenhead]

I've tried to read Joyce, it's a difficult style of writing to understand

"

It's even more difficult when non-standard spellings of "tumescent" and "todger" are employed. Most discombobulating.

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By *omyorksMan
6 weeks ago

Nr York

I loved Stop the Week on Radio 4. Robert Robinson and friends, many scintillating moments. Nothing, since, quite like it.

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By *dstefiMan
6 weeks ago

Solihull

Radio 4 still has intelligent, thought provoking content.

I happened across the most recent Briefing Room (David Aaronovitch) driving home last night, a deep dive into intergenerational wealth and income differences. Worth a listen on Sounds if you have a spare half an hour and wonder why your kids are very unlikely ever to be as well off as you are.

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By *ndsotobedMan
6 weeks ago

Towcester

Let there be sapiosexuality xxx

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By *0yguyMan
6 weeks ago

Cumberland


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

Only if he grew a big beard and dressed as a woman.

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"Its hard to have an intellectual conversation with a cock shoved down your throat, that's a very one way conversation.

"... And as my fully tumnescent toddger reamed out their pale attenuated throat, causing it to bulge obscenely at every, some might say, 'spiteful' down-stroke .... It was only then that their panic-stricken eyes somehow conveyed far more to me than they had ever managed to do by way of words. We finally understood one another perfectly."

[James Joyce - Long Weekend in Maidenhead]

I've tried to read Joyce, it's a difficult style of writing to understand

It's even more difficult when non-standard spellings of "tumescent" and "todger" are employed. Most discombobulating. "

'discombobulating' ... That has to be worth a fair few points on a Scrabble board ...

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By *ountainMan
6 weeks ago

ipswich

Stephen Fry is very intellectual and clever but he was useless at finding the traitors !

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


" Stephen Fry is very intellectual and clever but he was useless at finding the traitors ! "

Yes. He looks like the type of chap who is always misplacing things .... Like looking everywhere for his reading glasses ... while wearing them.

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By *yzantineMan
6 weeks ago

Offshore now, ignore pistcode

Radio 3 used to have a great late evening panel discussion called Free Thinking - genuine intelligent conversation guided by some bright and engaging hosts. We lost that to feel-good mental health directionless musical buffet mélanges.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

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By *ill_numbersMan
6 weeks ago

Leatherhead


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'discombobulating' ... That has to be worth a fair few points on a Scrabble board ... "

My youngest got marked down at primary school for writing down that he was feeling discombobulated as the teacher thought it was a made up word.

She did apologise eventually.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

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By *hiteroseMan
6 weeks ago

Neverwhere


" 'discombobulating' ... That has to be worth a fair few points on a Scrabble board ... "

Given that you can only play a maximum of 7 tiles in one turn, it would be impossible to build this word in a game of scrabble.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

"

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X

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By *aremanMan
6 weeks ago

Hingham


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

...

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X"

There is a fine stuffed chavender,

A chavender or chub,

That decks the rural pavender,

The pavender or pub,

Wherein I eat my gravender,

My gravender or grub.... (continues at length)

Warham St Leger

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

rhyme n rhythm X mmm X

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By *aremanMan
6 weeks ago

Hingham


"

....It's a syndrome that affects the forum in general, I'm not just singling you out by the way. Very few are capable of writing much more than a sentence, never mind paragraphs."

I have the strong impression that short and gnomic responses are due to the poster using his phone rather than a proper keyboard. This may feed into phone addicts' mental processes in general...repeatedly typing "y'know, sort of , like" on an Android must be challenging.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

no, using a standard keyboard.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

thank you X am awake now

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By *andomguy321Man
6 weeks ago

reading


"

'discombobulating' ... That has to be worth a fair few points on a Scrabble board ...

My youngest got marked down at primary school for writing down that he was feeling discombobulated as the teacher thought it was a made up word.

She did apologise eventually.

"

So the word had the precise effect on them as its meaning

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
6 weeks ago

Cheshire

love having a decent conversation X

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By *lackbootzMan
6 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X"

“us” merely referred to the rest of us reading this thread. Was interested to know if any of the topics raised were hitting the spot for you.

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

reading


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X

“us” merely referred to the rest of us reading this thread. Was interested to know if any of the topics raised were hitting the spot for you. "

I suspect that our intellectual efforts are still going through a rather long and drawn-out process of chud-chewing mastication.

In the meantime ... Their thirst for erudite stimuli remains sadly unquenched.

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By *ilke500Man
5 weeks ago

edinburgh

A guy who is a good communicator and can make me laugh is already half way into my pants….

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By *dmbiguyMan
5 weeks ago

Didcot

Yeah conversation is a big turn on for me. Anyone who can "yes and" an idea or add to a fantasy so I guess creative stimulation rather than intellectual. I've not been turned on by a challenging game of Go or Chess after all.

I like to understand why people have fantasies too. One woman I did some swinging with loved her senses being filled (so do I!) and we realised it was down to a shared sensate quirk we both had an started incorporating it more in our play sessions.

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"… I suspect that our intellectual efforts are still going through a rather long and drawn-out process of chud-chewing mastication…

"

I love the Freudianism of chewing the chud. There’s quite a few chud-chewers about.

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By *enri du lacMan
5 weeks ago

Coventry


"… I suspect that our intellectual efforts are still going through a rather long and drawn-out process of chud-chewing mastication…

I love the Freudianism of chewing the chud. There’s quite a few chud-chewers about. "

I believe you mean "cud", not "chud".

"Chud" traditionally refers to an ancient tribe from North-West Russia.

However, more recent usage derives from the 1984 film "Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers", and since 2019 it has been used as a derogatory term for far-right activists.

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"… I suspect that our intellectual efforts are still going through a rather long and drawn-out process of chud-chewing mastication…

I love the Freudianism of chewing the chud. There’s quite a few chud-chewers about.

I believe you mean "cud", not "chud".

"Chud" traditionally refers to an ancient tribe from North-West Russia.

However, more recent usage derives from the 1984 film "Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers", and since 2019 it has been used as a derogatory term for far-right activists."

The Chude or Chud were an ancient Finnic peoples in East Slavic lore (originally from the Chud Lake area).

Chuddy or chud is Ozzie slang for chewing gum.

And possibly derived from the film you mentioned (though disputed) chud is a slang word of general disparagement for a thicko or troll online. In some political instances it’s specifically a left-wing insult for someone right-leaning or elderly. It’s an equivalent of gammon.

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

reading


"… I suspect that our intellectual efforts are still going through a rather long and drawn-out process of chud-chewing mastication…

I love the Freudianism of chewing the chud. There’s quite a few chud-chewers about.

I believe you mean "cud", not "chud".

"Chud" traditionally refers to an ancient tribe from North-West Russia.

However, more recent usage derives from the 1984 film "Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers", and since 2019 it has been used as a derogatory term for far-right activists."

Yes ...I did mean 'Cud' ...Many years ago I used to date someone originally from Hartlepool (for my sins), who always referred to chewing gum as 'Chuddy' ... That's my excuse for confusing it with 'cud' anyway .... and like a battered old plimsoll's relationship with discarded chewing gum, I'm sticking to it.

But when it comes to cannibalistic political activists ... Aren't Leftists far more renowned for eating themselves than the FR?

The phrase "the left is eating itself" or "leftists constantly eat their own" is a well-established political idiom .... based on commonplace observation.

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By *rowserMan
5 weeks ago

East Kent

Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

reading


"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.' "

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

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By *ountainMan
5 weeks ago

ipswich

My brain hurts.

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By *enri du lacMan
5 weeks ago

Coventry


"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

"

I agree that "My Way" is somewhat arrogant but it isn't necessarily selfish. Doing things differently to the norm has led to significant breakthroughs during humankind's existence that have benefitted the many.

For example, tens of thousands of years ago an early human was the first to discover that meat tasted better, and was easier to chew, when cooked. This marked one of the most important events in human development because the meat did not need to be chewed as much, and was far easier to digest.

This meant that the human body could divert resources away from the digestive system and concentrate them more on the development of the brain.

If early Man (or ape, perhaps) had continued to eat raw meat then perhaps our brains would have remained at the chimpanzee level, and we wouldn't be here today contemplating the merits, or otherwise, of "My Way".

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

I agree that "My Way" is somewhat arrogant but it isn't necessarily selfish. Doing things differently to the norm has led to significant breakthroughs during humankind's existence that have benefitted the many.

For example, tens of thousands of years ago an early human was the first to discover that meat tasted better, and was easier to chew, when cooked. This marked one of the most important events in human development because the meat did not need to be chewed as much, and was far easier to digest.

This meant that the human body could divert resources away from the digestive system and concentrate them more on the development of the brain.

If early Man (or ape, perhaps) had continued to eat raw meat then perhaps our brains would have remained at the chimpanzee level, and we wouldn't be here today contemplating the merits, or otherwise, of "My Way"."

That is certainly something to ponder.

Wouldn't our brains have way surpassed that of the chimpazee by the time we started cooking meat though?

I think our ability to create and use fire would have been the real game-changer.

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By *rancd2TV/TS
5 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

I agree, learning to create and use fire was probably the biggest single jump forward in human history, everything else stems from that.

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"I agree, learning to create and use fire was probably the biggest single jump forward in human history, everything else stems from that."

Have you seen Quest For Fire? (1981 - set in the Paleolithic era, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud)

Brilliant film

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"I agree, learning to create and use fire was probably the biggest single jump forward in human history, everything else stems from that.

Have you seen Quest For Fire? (1981 - set in the Paleolithic era, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud)

Brilliant film

"

I have. It’s a bit painful - has a certain Made for ‘Mystery Science Theater 3000’ feel.

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

I agree that "My Way" is somewhat arrogant but it isn't necessarily selfish. Doing things differently to the norm has led to significant breakthroughs during humankind's existence that have benefitted the many.

For example, tens of thousands of years ago an early human was the first to discover that meat tasted better, and was easier to chew, when cooked. This marked one of the most important events in human development because the meat did not need to be chewed as much, and was far easier to digest.

This meant that the human body could divert resources away from the digestive system and concentrate them more on the development of the brain.

If early Man (or ape, perhaps) had continued to eat raw meat then perhaps our brains would have remained at the chimpanzee level, and we wouldn't be here today contemplating the merits, or otherwise, of "My Way".

That is certainly something to ponder.

Wouldn't our brains have way surpassed that of the chimpazee by the time we started cooking meat though?

I think our ability to create and use fire would have been the real game-changer.

"

This is a very good introduction to hominid development, cranial evolution and the changing dentition as early man learnt to cook with fire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r9svk

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"I agree, learning to create and use fire was probably the biggest single jump forward in human history, everything else stems from that.

Have you seen Quest For Fire? (1981 - set in the Paleolithic era, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud)

Brilliant film

I have. It’s a bit painful - has a certain Made for ‘Mystery Science Theater 3000’ feel. "

Lol ... That's part of its charm for me ... But yea, it won't be everyone's cup of tea.

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

I agree that "My Way" is somewhat arrogant but it isn't necessarily selfish. Doing things differently to the norm has led to significant breakthroughs during humankind's existence that have benefitted the many.

For example, tens of thousands of years ago an early human was the first to discover that meat tasted better, and was easier to chew, when cooked. This marked one of the most important events in human development because the meat did not need to be chewed as much, and was far easier to digest.

This meant that the human body could divert resources away from the digestive system and concentrate them more on the development of the brain.

If early Man (or ape, perhaps) had continued to eat raw meat then perhaps our brains would have remained at the chimpanzee level, and we wouldn't be here today contemplating the merits, or otherwise, of "My Way".

That is certainly something to ponder.

Wouldn't our brains have way surpassed that of the chimpazee by the time we started cooking meat though?

I think our ability to create and use fire would have been the real game-changer.

This is a very good introduction to hominid development, cranial evolution and the changing dentition as early man learnt to cook with fire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r9svk

"

Cheers BB ... I'll check it out [Despite it being on the BBC ]

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By *airythighs61Man
5 weeks ago

North Norfolk

None in North Norfolk!!!

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.'

Then he could always do a slightly rewritten version of another Sintara classic.

'You've Got Me Under Your Skin'

I agree that "My Way" is somewhat arrogant but it isn't necessarily selfish. Doing things differently to the norm has led to significant breakthroughs during humankind's existence that have benefitted the many.

For example, tens of thousands of years ago an early human was the first to discover that meat tasted better, and was easier to chew, when cooked. This marked one of the most important events in human development because the meat did not need to be chewed as much, and was far easier to digest.

This meant that the human body could divert resources away from the digestive system and concentrate them more on the development of the brain.

If early Man (or ape, perhaps) had continued to eat raw meat then perhaps our brains would have remained at the chimpanzee level, and we wouldn't be here today contemplating the merits, or otherwise, of "My Way".

That is certainly something to ponder.

Wouldn't our brains have way surpassed that of the chimpazee by the time we started cooking meat though?

I think our ability to create and use fire would have been the real game-changer.

This is a very good introduction to hominid development, cranial evolution and the changing dentition as early man learnt to cook with fire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r9svk

Cheers BB ... I'll check it out [Despite it being on the BBC ]"

There was some other more recent documentary I saw on the subject: very good female presenter palaeo-whatever she was anatomist scientist and the explanation of dental development with the increased role cooked food played in diets and brain development was fascinating. As soon as our ancestors stopped spending every waking moment hunting and we stopped taking hours chewing raw meat and brassica, we developed social skills, advanced communication, etc etc.

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By *ucksitupMan
5 weeks ago

Shrewsbury


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

He’s just won the first ever FIFA Peace Prize so he’s golden at the moment 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire


"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.' "
Don't get me started on Paul Simon, " I am a rock", no man is an island..

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"Back to 'My Way'. Sinatra being at his best a genius, he could just about lay claim to Anka's lamentable words, if regrettably to this listener. The song is a paean to egotism and arrogance - to that extent, perfect for Trump. A useful counter to the song's selfish assertion is recalling John Donne's poem, 'No Man Is An Island.' Don't get me started on Paul Simon, " I am a rock", no man is an island.."

Plenty of islands are named after men though

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

isle of man..?

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

or island called Bob?

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By *ountainMan
5 weeks ago

ipswich

Lots of things happening in astronomy now that our understanding of how it all works more,and less, clear.

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By *owzerMan
5 weeks ago

Chester.....


"Lots of things happening in astronomy now that our understanding of how it all works more,and less, clear. "

Mooning. Even without a telescope

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

hit the nail on the head, conversation is sexy and if done right, even sexier X talk / listen, not for you? jog on or take your head for a wobble X

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"hit the nail on the head, conversation is sexy and if done right, even sexier X talk / listen, not for you? jog on or take your head for a wobble X"

Could you give us an example of 'done right'

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

us, still implies there is a me, and an "us" I am am communicating with, howevever, if I was speaking to you, and just you, "done right" would mean I turned you on by talking to you and you enjoyed it and reciprocated and I enjoyed it too X

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X"

us, still implies there is a me, and an "us" I am am communicating with, howevever, if I was speaking to you, and just you, "done right" would mean I turned you on by talking to you and you enjoyed it and reciprocated and I enjoyed it too X I did not.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

bit of a bully.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

only wanted a chat, gnight people X

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By *ountainMan
5 weeks ago

ipswich

I think therefore i is.

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By *artlesMan
5 weeks ago

Nottingham

I don't really look for intellectual stimulation here, I can listen to the Reith lectures or read a book. I don't get sexy banter or erotic stimulation from those...

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By *lackbootzMan
5 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X

us, still implies there is a me, and an "us" I am am communicating with, howevever, if I was speaking to you, and just you, "done right" would mean I turned you on by talking to you and you enjoyed it and reciprocated and I enjoyed it too X I did not."

What on earth was all this about..?!

“I am he as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together…”

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By *iono555Man
5 weeks ago

DERBY


"I love a good conversation too X

Me too.

Here's one for you ....

If America was part of the Eurovision Song Contest ... And Donald Trump sang 'My Way' as their official entrant.

Do you think it would win? "

Well, he'd threaten to bomb anyone who didn't vote for him so..

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

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5 weeks ago

Cheshire

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire


"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X

us, still implies there is a me, and an "us" I am am communicating with, howevever, if I was speaking to you, and just you, "done right" would mean I turned you on by talking to you and you enjoyed it and reciprocated and I enjoyed it too X I did not.

What on earth was all this about..?!

“I am he as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together…”"

you're a bit of a bully, would have replied privately but you blocked me after being quite rude

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

if it was one conversation, fine but you've been there a few times eh!

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

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"will have a think about Auguste Rodin

Is he entering the Eurovision too..? Perhaps he can sing a song written by Donald Trump.

So far, OP, you’ve been rather passive bystander to the subject matter put forward by others. Do please provide us with intellectual provender.

Us? you sound like you are part of a group.. had to look up Provender = Dry food, such as hay, used as feed for livestock. no, will not be providing intellectual provender but good luck BB X

us, still implies there is a me, and an "us" I am am communicating with, howevever, if I was speaking to you, and just you, "done right" would mean I turned you on by talking to you and you enjoyed it and reciprocated and I enjoyed it too X I did not.

What on earth was all this about..?!

“I am he as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together…”"

"See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly"

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

inane

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

you watch people being rude and join in.

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By *andomguy321Man
5 weeks ago

reading


"inane"

Context dear boy .... Context

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

not a boy.

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By *ridayguy OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Cheshire

at 50+

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