FabGuys.com forum: TV Licensing hassle.

By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

No, the other kind of TV...

Crapita, who run the television licensing scam on behalf of an increasingly desperate Bonkers Broadcasting Corporation, have increased their frequency of nagging the unlicensed. They now want your declaration of televisual innocence annually, rather than two-yearly. I made the declaration, along with a complaint, last week. I've just been told (not asked, obvs) by the Crapita jobsworth named in the email.to make the same declaration again.

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

I am well aware that increasing the frequency of your checks is less to do with "fairness to others" than with increasing Capita's already obscene profits. But I bet your wages haven't changed much! Is it worth being universally detested, I wonder?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

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By *usan _onesTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

Funny x

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By *tar33Man
4 weeks ago

North London (outer)

I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value.

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value."

I don't share your taste in entertainment, and I have other demands on my limited resources. But bully for you.

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By *ucksitupMan
4 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

Not clever, not funny, sad really. You don’t reach the person who makes the decisions or decides policy you just essentially harass some poor soul who has to sift through the abuse. They probably aren’t paid much but they have to suffer your vitriol.

I hope you are proud of yourself.

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By *itherneitherTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Burnham on sea

They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

I hope you are proud of yourself. "

Do please let me know who makes the decisions and suggest a way of getting them to take the slightest notice of my concerns, and I'll be glad to try it your way. Meanwhile, I'll continue attacking the only part of the structure I can reach, through the only route that I am given.

Thank you for your input. Are you a BBC exec, perhaps?

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By *ishop666Man
4 weeks ago

ls19

Not paid for a license in 4 years

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By *oasyouwishMan
4 weeks ago

benfleet

Can you still watch live sports on other tv channels?

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By *attersbyMan
4 weeks ago

cotswold

Well I think it’s jolly good value .

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

"Can you still watch live sports on other tv channels?"

Without paying protection money to the BBC you can't watch anything live on any channel on anything.

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By *ishop666Man
4 weeks ago

ls19

Only live tv any channels but plus 1 is allowed

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By *ucksitupMan
4 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

I hope you are proud of yourself.

Thank you for your input. Are you a BBC exec, perhaps?"

I am nothing to do with the BBC or Capita.

It’s ironic that you are essentially imitating one of the BBCs most successful characters Victor Meldrew.

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By *tar33Man
4 weeks ago

North London (outer)

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value.

I don't share your taste in entertainment, and I have other demands on my limited resources. But bully for you."

Not that many demands if you have the time to compose a rant like this that will no doubt be ignored, and serve no useful purpose.

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By *heff24Man
4 weeks ago

Sheffield

Pay for TV licence? 😂😂

Not in this lifetime

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By *tar33Man
4 weeks ago

North London (outer)

"Pay for TV licence? 😂😂

Not in this lifetime"

Edgy, and a little like vegans in that you always feel it necessary to share your smugness.

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By *heff24Man
4 weeks ago

Sheffield

"Pay for TV licence? 😂😂

Not in this lifetime

Edgy, and a little like vegans in that you always feel it necessary to share your smugness."

Ouch burn!

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By *rm_navMan
4 weeks ago

WATFORD

There are several channels on YouTube advising on how to deal with them, as they are getting increasingly aggressive. As they're contractors paid bonuses by results they're under pressure so often go beyond the point.

The best channel is The Black Belt Barrister. While he is careful to state he is not offering direct advice or legal opinion, he believes that the threatening letters they use (often on a first visit) could be viewed as illegal as they border on harassment.

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By *aturedaddy123Man
4 weeks ago

Wirral

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion."

It's "only" 5 billion - but they should tell the orange fascist to eff off (in nice legal jargon of course)

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By *arleyBearMan
4 weeks ago

chester

I just don’t interact with them at all I haven’t had a license for over 15 years or so now but I don’t watch live TV so my conscience is clear. I did have a few visits when I first stopped paying and I did invite them in to check but it seems they didn’t want to pay £30 admission fee

All letters straight into recycle bin if not addressed to me

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By *xtraoneMan
4 weeks ago

Gloucester

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

Wow I wouldn't like to meet meet you Inn a pub.

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By *tmguylookingMan
4 weeks ago

Chesterfield

I'm happy to pay the TV licence. I won't however, pay for any of the dozens of other subscription channels, it's these channels that have promoted most of the Americanisms we now have to put up with during our every day lives.

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By *astDevonGuyMan
4 weeks ago

East Devon

Happy to pay the TV licence .

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By *antienicTV/TS
4 weeks ago

nottingham

Wots a tv licence!

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By *elljelMan
4 weeks ago

clacton/harlow

Imagine being gullible enough to pay a license fee to watch left wing propagandists (& a few limp- footed celebrities being dragged around a dance floor)

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By *rowserMan
4 weeks ago

East Kent

£3.35 per week seems good value to me for all I get from the Corporation. Radio 4 and 5 Live, online news and features, excellent depth of content new and old on i-Player.

Last time I paid the fee it felt good to support the BBC in my tiny way against the White House abomination. (Apart from being a consumer as noted, I have no connection to the BBC.)

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By *hrisUKMan
4 weeks ago

Leicester

I don't watch tv and I don't subscribe to any streaming services either; I'm simply not interested. I do resent the regular demands for a 'no licence needed' declaration (and the Capita bastards who try and enforce it). It's the strangest of systems; if you don't have a driving licence, they don't try and visit your house to see if you've got a car hidden under the stairs, do they?

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By *ary1066Man
4 weeks ago

Preston

"Pay for TV licence? 😂😂

Not in this lifetime

Edgy, and a little like vegans in that you always feel it necessary to share your smugness."

Perhaps he pays by direct debit too😂

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By *alterP888Man
4 weeks ago

Bridlington

A good way to wind king trump, given that you need a license to watch any live TV station - point out to trump that an American citizen in the UK watching a live broadcast from the USA needs to pay a license fee but the US broadcaster receives nothing

Then stand well back 😅

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By *bone75Man
4 weeks ago

Bensham

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By *bone75Man
4 weeks ago

Bensham

"A good way to wind king trump, given that you need a license to watch any live TV station - point out to trump that an American citizen in the UK watching a live broadcast from the USA needs to pay a license fee but the US broadcaster receives nothing

Then stand well back 😅"

He's going to donate his $10billion winnings to them 😂😂😂😂😂

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By *anleybeatonMan
4 weeks ago

london

I pay the licence but never watch TV which makes me the kind of mug they love

I hate the attitude of the TV licence wording on the website "YOU HAVE FALLEN BEHIND IN YOUR PAYMENTS PAY WHAT IS OWED IMMEDIATELY"

ok keep your hair on. And I haven't 'fallen behind' I pay in installments which is why I'm on the website

why are they so aggressive in all their reminders it's really like they think they're talking to people inferior to them

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

"I don't watch tv and I don't subscribe to any streaming services either; I'm simply not interested. I do resent the regular demands for a 'no licence needed' declaration (and the Capita bastards who try and enforce it). It's the strangest of systems; if you don't have a driving licence, they don't try and visit your house to see if you've got a car hidden under the stairs, do they?

Exactly. I don't get threatening letters demanding I buy a licence to run a nonexistent whisky still. The CAA sees no reason to remind me annually that I need a private pilot's licence, because I don't.

And it's a lousy way to fund the BBC in any case. If its TV programming were subscription-only, we'd soon see some improvements all round.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Waterlooville

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value.

I don't share your taste in entertainment, and I have other demands on my limited resources. But bully for you."

Do you not listen to any of the BBC national or local radio. Use the BBC web site or have children or grand children who watch or have watched the children's programmes?

The BBC was set up to inform educate and entertain for all in the UK. They are good value for money.

Unfortunately they occasionally make some stupid mistakes. Never the less for all theire faults they provide a valuable contribution to our society in the UK and beyond.

We all make mistakes from time to time, including you.

What did you gain by your actions in a somewhat childish response to capita. Why berate a person, in a third party company for just doing their job.

Your correspondence will only reinforce the younger generation opinions that all old people probably have dementia and are senile.

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By *ucksitupMan
4 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

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By *einmeMan
4 weeks ago

Comber

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value.

I don't share your taste in entertainment, and I have other demands on my limited resources. But bully for you.

Do you not listen to any of the BBC national or local radio. Use the BBC web site or have children or grand children who watch or have watched the children's programmes?

The BBC was set up to inform educate and entertain for all in the UK. They are good value for money.

Unfortunately they occasionally make some stupid mistakes. Never the less for all theire faults they provide a valuable contribution to our society in the UK and beyond.

We all make mistakes from time to time, including you.

What did you gain by your actions in a somewhat childish response to capita. Why berate a person, in a third party company for just doing their job.

Your correspondence will only reinforce the younger generation opinions that all old people probably have dementia and are senile.

Become a poor educator with all channels endlessly displaying idioms, colloquialisms and generally bad grammar.

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By *alking HeadMan
4 weeks ago

Bolton

Have you tried filling in the form using the PMs details, wiping your arse on it and sending that in? Probably more satisfying.

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By *onMan
4 weeks ago

Bispham, Blackpool.

I agree

They seem to think that they constantly need to remind you and explain the rules, it's an insult to your intelligence.

They threaten visits by their law enforcement officers when in fact they're just cold callers trying to sell a product, they have no legal right to gain entry to your property.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford

Just ignore the letters. Throw them in the bin. None of us have ever entered a contract to tell a service when we're not using it, so going to the bother of responding to them seems a bit daft.

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By *rooozerMan
4 weeks ago

If I watch ANY live TV, I must BY LAW, pay the BBC!!

So for example.. to watch live broadcasts on YOU TUBE I have to pay the BBC! (not YOU TUBE)

To watch live broadcasts on itv, I have to pay the BBC! (Not ITV)

The list goes on….

Where’s the logic?

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By *arrogateDadMan
4 weeks ago

Harrogate

The logic is it’s a Universal Service like the NHS. You may never use it or only use occasionally chose to, but it there to use it should you chose. Personally I use it every day …..mostly Radio & Website for Sports coverage so I get tremendous value for money. I hardly ever watch any kind of TV these days other than Sport. I don’t begrudge paying a relatively small amount for this - just like I don’t begrudge paying a lot more to educate other peoples kids or save other peoples lives or keep them safe. It’s called civilisation & supporting others, rather than the “I’m alright Jack” culture that unfortunately is fast pervading our once proud country, where the financially fortunate used to be happy to contribute to the welfare of the whole. How much is a Sky / Netflix subscription again ???

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

The beeb is a desperate sinking ship

People are ditching them in favour of other superior and cheaper providers

Yes there are people who will watch their stuff illegally without paying

But its so easy now to chose a better alternative

I havent had a tv license for 7 years now

Money well saved !

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By *evanianMan
4 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru

"If I watch ANY live TV, I must BY LAW, pay the BBC!!

So for example.. to watch live broadcasts on YOU TUBE I have to pay the BBC! (not YOU TUBE)

To watch live broadcasts on itv, I have to pay the BBC! (Not ITV)

The list goes on….

Where’s the logic? "

Quite clearly, there is simply no logic in being compulsorily forced to pay for a substandard, often biased service that many of us never use!

We're now approaching the second quarter of the 21st century, and Aunty Beeb is a dinosaur and very much a very tired old lady from over a century ago and no longer fits in with the requirements of today's world, she's had her day and her time is well and truly over!

BBC ~ 1922-2025.

Requiescat in Pace. 🌿

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

"If I watch ANY live TV, I must BY LAW, pay the BBC!!

So for example.. to watch live broadcasts on YOU TUBE I have to pay the BBC! (not YOU TUBE)

To watch live broadcasts on itv, I have to pay the BBC! (Not ITV)

The list goes on….

Where’s the logic?

Quite clearly, there is simply no logic in being compulsorily forced to pay for a substandard, often biased service that many of us never use!

BBC ~ 1922-2025.

Requiescat in Pace. 🌿

Here here !

Amen to the beeb

Since covid alone they've lost more than 3 million license payers

The younger generation in particular refuse to pay for their content in favour of better platforms

Paying the tv license fee is a bit like going into a chinese restaurant paying for everything on the menu but only eating a portion of prawn crackers

By paying the license fee you are funding the whole out of date organisation incl dozens of local radio stations etc that you'll never use

Their days are well and truly numbered !

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford

100% commercial tv and radio is on the horizon. The BBC will simply have to find other ways to fund itself (or be funded via general taxation but i believe govt is not in favour of a state controlled media outlet) which no doubt will effect production quality and choice. I know plenty of people who dont pay as they feel its some kind of rebellion. They all watch live tv and bbc content though.

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By *ammy39Man
4 weeks ago

Glenrothes

The big bonus of watching anything on any Beeb channel is no adverts! That alone makes it worth the licence fee.

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By *ertbottomMan
4 weeks ago

ramsgate

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By *itherMan
4 weeks ago

Leeds

Long winded.

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By *ruemaleMan
4 weeks ago

notts

"The beeb is a desperate sinking ship

People are ditching them in favour of other superior and cheaper providers

Yes there are people who will watch their stuff illegally without paying

But its so easy now to chose a better alternative

I havent had a tv license for 7 years now

Money well saved !

I would love to stop paying for the licence but scared to. I don't want to get in trouble though

However, 95% of my viewing time is Netflix, Utube or U.

Just wish I knew how to stop paying.

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By *evanianMan
4 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru

"The beeb is a desperate sinking ship

People are ditching them in favour of other superior and cheaper providers

Yes there are people who will watch their stuff illegally without paying

But its so easy now to chose a better alternative

I havent had a tv license for 7 years now

Money well saved !

I would love to stop paying for the licence but scared to. I don't want to get in trouble though

However, 95% of my viewing time is Netflix, Utube or U.

Just wish I knew how to stop paying.

Just cancel your direct debit if you pay your TV licence fee that way or just don't renew next time it's due.

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By *arleyBearMan
4 weeks ago

chester

"The logic is it’s a Universal Service like the NHS. You may never use it or only use occasionally chose to, but it there to use it should you chose. Personally I use it every day …..mostly Radio & Website for Sports coverage so I get tremendous value for money. I hardly ever watch any kind of TV these days other than Sport. I don’t begrudge paying a relatively small amount for this - just like I don’t begrudge paying a lot more to educate other peoples kids or save other peoples lives or keep them safe. It’s called civilisation & supporting others, rather than the “I’m alright Jack” culture that unfortunately is fast pervading our once proud country, where the financially fortunate used to be happy to contribute to the welfare of the whole. How much is a Sky / Netflix subscription again ???"

I think you are missing the main point, it’s about CHOICE I use the NHS unfortunately and all my treatment was free but I can’t get a NHS Dentist so have to pay, that is a choice, I can’t watch ITV or any live sport unless I pay to something I don’t want….would you pay Tesco to shop at Aldi

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By *evanianMan
4 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru

Hear! Hear! 😊👍👍👍

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By *tar33Man
4 weeks ago

North London (outer)

I assume you pay Council Tax, but do you benefit from everything they provide? Likewise National Insurance, some things are for the greater good.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
4 weeks ago

south wales and south west

What an absolute wet weekend. The fact you think this is some kind of gotya moment is hysterically funny.

Firstly, whoever you sent that too had a great laugh at your expense. Secondly, they don't care about the ramblings of imbeciles. Lastly, you're misguided and uniformed nature of assuming the licence is only for the BBC is also hysterically funny.

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By *ruemaleMan
4 weeks ago

notts

Sods law. I've just had an email from TV licence rem nders

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

"What an absolute wet weekend. The fact you think this is some kind of gotya moment is hysterically funny.

No longer a member of the Forces, and not in uniform....but I take your minuscule point. In addition to funding all of the BBC, the fee also helps S4C. Nothing else. If you can't control your hysteria, check Wikipedia.

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By *se_my_assMan
4 weeks ago

Erdington

If capita contact you just ignore them.

I sign the declaration every couple of years and have never paid for a tv licence.

I don't watch terrestrial or cable, don't use iplayer, don't watch live. I only ever use YouTube and other free catchup channels.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
4 weeks ago

south wales and south west

"What an absolute wet weekend. The fact you think this is some kind of gotya moment is hysterically funny.

S4c, channel 4, ITV and a proportion goes to other "free" channels.

My point still stands, they had a great laugh at your expense because of the hysterical nature of your ramblings

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By *areman OP Man
4 weeks ago

Hingham

S4c, channel 4, ITV and a proportion goes to other "free" channels.

My point still stands, they had a great laugh at your expense because of the hysterical nature of your ramblings"

This obviously matters a great deal to you. How dare I criticise -even lightheartedly - the enormous government-subsidised private consortium Crapita's heavyhanded and authoritarian approach to mere peasants such as myself? Disgraceful. BBC exec, are you?

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By *rancd2TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

A lot of local news reporters, for all media not just tv, are funded by the BBC.

If for nothing other than that, I’m happy to pay a licence fee.

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By *MZ10458Man
4 weeks ago

rotherham

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By *idingcockMan
4 weeks ago

Driffield

Couldn’t have put it better myself. Of courses the Beeb gets it wrong from time to time, what organisation doesn’t? My Mum loved Radio 4, I love Radio 3 and Strictly. I can’t bear the adverts on the other channels.

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By *im le2Man
4 weeks ago

aylestone leic

Is it still live tv if you watch the +1 channel after all it was shown live an hour ago.

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

The numbers speak for themselves

People are opting out every year there are less licenses sold

As the old generation shuffle off the numbers will drop further

funding for the beeb is doomed !

They spend millions each year sending out their door knocking enforcement teams and threatening letters trying to intimidate people into paying their rip off license fee

Just watch the u tube vids on the matter by the barrister guy

Im 7 years license free

The best decision I made and certainly don't regret ditching the dinasour

Dont delay ditch today !

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By *IPMANMan
4 weeks ago

LONDON WEST

Sadly I still pay for the BBC. I was a staunch supporters for many years but have little regard for it now

It's constant bleating about "rights" , too many programmes with "Strictly" or "Celebrity", its role in supporting washed up "national treasures", blanket sports coverage etc etc etc

And let's not mention its obsession with regional accents, non white bias and screeching women

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By *ruemaleMan
4 weeks ago

notts

"Sadly I still pay for the BBC. I was a staunch supporters for many years but have little regard for it now

It's constant bleating about "rights" , too many programmes with "Strictly" or "Celebrity", its role in supporting washed up "national treasures", blanket sports coverage etc etc etc

And let's not mention its obsession with regional accents, non white bias and screeching women"

Totally agree

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By *inkyroleMan
4 weeks ago

Bournemouth - Poole

I agree with the above post ^^

High time the licence was scrapped and replaced with ‘pay per view’ for those who choose to watch it

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By *ammy57TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Stevenage

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value."

You will have a national propaganda station. There is one in every country.

BBC is respected because generally it's pretty reliable and it's world service tended to be factual.

The alternative is something like faux or GB news entertainment channels.

We pay a lot of the BBC bills.

And as a result we get great content and govt propaganda in relatively small doses, unlike national channels in China or Hungary.

This latest stitch up job by project 25 aligned plants, needs to be recognised as foreign and commercial interference it is and the BBC supported.

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By *ottomguy8919Man
4 weeks ago

Thetford

I personally think that the TV licence is an outdated thing now. You definitely don't get good value for money. There is so much crap on TV now that's it's just not worth paying the TV licence for. Especially if your already paying for sky etc which should have the TV licence included on it. I for one refuse to pay the TV licence as it's pointless. Besides other than coming into your house they have no way of telling if you watch TV or not. And what you do in your home is not any of their business.

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

"Happy to pay the TV licence . "

Its good that there are mainly older people willing to pay and dont mind the price hikes that will follow to compensate for the millions that are ditching the beeb and its awful license cost and biast content

But as their toes curl up the beeb lises even more revenue

Amen

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By *bear67Man
4 weeks ago

Aldershot

I happily pay the licence but respect the choice of those who don't watch and therefore don't pay. What really gets my goat are those who don't pay but watch anyway. I would like to see the BBC become a subscription service to thwart these fraudsters.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford

"Happy to pay the TV licence .

But as their toes curl up the beeb lises even more revenue

Amen"

The vast majprity of people who dont pay the licence fee, thinking it is some kind of rebellion, do watch the BBC content. We have to accept that no licence fee means that we put up with adverts on every channel. I dont mind that, but I also dont mind paying a small amount each year for a licence. I pay for Sky, Amazon, Netflix etc after all. Its the same thing.

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By *elfordsubMan
4 weeks ago

Telford

I haven't paid for over a decade and don't watch it. I think the BBC specifically should perhaps be subscription as why on earth do you need one for all TV channels everywhere. Yes there is some good stuff on it but they're is on most services and I don't pay for them either.

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By *einmeMan
4 weeks ago

Comber

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By *xMartixxTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Cambridge

I don't and won't pay.

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By *ames canMan
4 weeks ago

monaghan

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

It's "only" 5 billion - but they should tell the orange fascist to eff off (in nice legal jargon of course)"
...aah...dont spoil it...

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

"Happy to pay the TV licence .

But as their toes curl up the beeb lises even more revenue

Amen

It's all about choice, and paying for what you want to see and view

Netflix Amazon etc don't send threatening letters and enforcement officers out to visit if you don't subscribe to their products

And you don't have to remove their right of access to your property either

i had 3 visits from tc licensing this year I live on the top (15th) floor of a block of flats which has a single shared tv aeriel mast for all of the flats in this building

So the setector van doesnt know who is watching what

The bbc's enforcement officers make their way through the building knocking on doors

I have a ring door bell so i don't even open the door to them now

All I say when they show their id and say who they are is "not today thank you" then mute them and play the theme tune to laurel and hardy through the doirbells speaker as they walk away.

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By *ottomguy8919Man
4 weeks ago

Thetford

"Happy to pay the TV licence .

But as their toes curl up the beeb lises even more revenue

Amen

So you are happy to pay for a TV licence as well as netflix sky etc. do you not think that maybe the TV licence should be included in any of these subscriptions. For example if someone pays sky each month then they should have the TV licence included into their subscription.

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By *ealmeetsearcherMan
4 weeks ago

stevenage

Boycott the TV licence. Don’t support a woke, left biased, pedo covering corporation.

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By *rooozerMan
4 weeks ago

I’m pro choice! Make it simple - For example:

If you want Netflix pay for it

If you want Sky pay for it

If you want BBC pay for it

No one should be forced to pay for ANY of the above if they don’t want them.

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford

"Happy to pay the TV licence .

But as their toes curl up the beeb lises even more revenue

Amen

How would people who dont already have a subscription service pay? Their licence is the subscription for bbc content. On that basis, it's very cheap!

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

It's all about viewers Choice

If you want BBC live content then pay the license fee

But if you do opt out of the bbc be prepared for their threatening letters that will follow along with the visits from their tv licensing agents, just say no thank you and close the door in their faces

You would be best to remove their right of access to your property

There are u tube videos explaining all this

I opted out 7 years ago and I still get the threatening letters and despite removing access to the property I get at least 2 visits per year

Why don't amazon or netflix send letters or door knockers ??

Because they're not sinking like the bbc is?

The beeb are desperately trying to claw back money as people ditch them in the millions

Goodbye and good riddance to an out of date biased corrupt service

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By *erscumdumpMan
4 weeks ago

Watford

"It's all about viewers Choice

If you want BBC live content then pay the license fee

You would be best to remove their right of access to your property

There are u tube videos explaining all this

I opted out 7 years ago and I still get the threatening letters and despite removing access to the property I get at least 2 visits per year

Why don't amazon or netflix send letters or door knockers ??

Because they're not sinking like the bbc is?

The beeb are desperately trying to claw back money as people ditch them in the millions

Goodbye and good riddance to an out of date biased corrupt service

Netflix and Amazon dont need to send people to knock on doors because unless you pay (or do it illegally via a kody box or the like) you can't access their services. Perhaps the BBC should go that route - no licence/no access to content. Its pretty simple really.

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By *cunnySucker69Man
4 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value."

Yes I also pay by monthly direct debit then I don't have to think about it

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By *egginzboyMan
4 weeks ago

Rugeley

"It's all about viewers Choice

If you want BBC live content then pay the license fee

You would be best to remove their right of access to your property

There are u tube videos explaining all this

I opted out 7 years ago and I still get the threatening letters and despite removing access to the property I get at least 2 visits per year

Why don't amazon or netflix send letters or door knockers ??

Because they're not sinking like the bbc is?

The beeb are desperately trying to claw back money as people ditch them in the millions

Goodbye and good riddance to an out of date biased corrupt service

if you walk into b&q tescos asda etc and look around and exit without buying anything

You dont get their letters and enforcement officers knocking at your door accusing you of stealing

The fact is you can legally watch over 80% of bbc content without a license as long as it's not live or via the iplayer

I'm glad the tv license numbers are dwindling in this digital era it"s an out of date method of collecting revenue

And considering the beeb spend around 50 million each year on letters and door knockers to threaten people

That money is funded by license payers

The oaps are currently propping up the bbc as they are old skool and will always pay the tv license fee as they are stuck in their ways until they depart this earth that is

The younger generations are a lot more savvy and won't pay it

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By *ruemaleMan
4 weeks ago

notts

One of today's headlines is

Woman faces TV licence conviction after her house burned down.

I suggest all should read it if you can.

Is l very to not pay but this article is a warning so I guess I'll have to continue paying.

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By *ruemaleMan
4 weeks ago

notts

Meant to say I'd prefer not to pay etc

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By *ig Bad JohnMan
4 weeks ago

Farnborough

I have always been under the impression that I, and at least 90% of other FGs Caucasians, are fascinated and absolutely love gazing at all the delicious BBCs shown on FGs, especially the larger members glinting in oil and cum!

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By *issy crystalTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Hook

"I have always been under the impression that I, and at least 90% of other FGs Caucasians, are fascinated and absolutely love gazing at all the delicious BBCs shown on FGs, especially the larger members glinting in oil and cum!"

And that alone is worth the licence fee

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By *lexieMan
4 weeks ago

Just north of Southampton

"Can you still watch live sports on other tv channels?

Without paying protection money to the BBC you can't watch anything live on any channel on anything."

The licence fee is not collected by the BBC. It is collected by a commercial private company called Capita or some such... they then give the money to the treasury after being paid a fee for the bully boy tactics used during collection. The Government of the day then pays the BBC a set amount of money to run its broadcast operation! This amount has no relationship to the amount of money extracted by Capita. The money granted to the BBC is handed over with strings... i.e. the government of the day chooses the Governor General and Trustees who run the BBC. The BBC is supposed to be an independent, unbiased public broadcast service, however, with the way it is currently funded... it can be anything but that; and that is the root of the BBC's dilemma... political interference! The BBC is also grossly inefficient... I purchased a new surplus stock BBC/JVC studio monitor from an approved equipment supplier for £300... you could buy them on the high street for just over £400, the BBC paid it's supplier £4.5k for the very same device! The BBC equipment buyers don't have clue of the value of the equipment they are buying! Just how deep this gross inefficiency goes in purchasing other services is anyone's guess! The BBC has lost its way and needs a complete overhaul from top to tail. The UK needs a PSB... but it needs one without government interference and one that works effectively! Bring on the BBC charter review and get this right... but don't hold ya breathe with our current crop of inept legislators

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By *rytonTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Chatham

I just send the letters back unopened. Saves gett8ng angry or upset,

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By *ocbigMan
4 weeks ago

Birmingham

I hope you are proud of yourself.

Thank you for your input. Are you a BBC exec, perhaps?"

When I had an issue with a bureaucratic behemoth, I used email…. Everyone in the company will have a your.name@ capita.com/org type email. Go on line & find as many senior positions names as possible and carpet bomb them with a similar message to above, almost inevitably someone will bite, I got a ‘how dare you message me’ reply to which I fired back ‘who the f*** do you think you are? Your company has been….etc so don’t tell me I can’t email you etc. my problem was rapidly resolved…

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By *izzeekMan
4 weeks ago

Out & about

"Can you still watch live sports on other tv channels?

Without paying protection money to the BBC you can't watch anything live on any channel on anything.

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

As the Uk population grows each year

The amount of Tv licenses sold each year falls

That statistic alone should tell you enough

The Beeb is failing & is doomed

People are voting with their feet !

And the beeb Do Not,

I say they Do Not like it

Hence the array of threatening visits and letters they send to non licensed addresses

I havent had a tv license since 2017

And in that time Ive had 25 threatening letters and 16 visits by their enforcement officers

They don't understand the term Go Away !

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By *tmguylookingMan
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

"As the Uk population grows each year

The amount of Tv licenses sold each year falls

That statistic alone should tell you enough

The Beeb is failing & is doomed

People are voting with their feet !

And the beeb Do Not,

I say they Do Not like it

Hence the array of threatening visits and letters they send to non licensed addresses

I havent had a tv license since 2017

And in that time Ive had 25 threatening letters and 16 visits by their enforcement officers

They don't understand the term Go Away !

As long as you're not viewing any tv at the tome it's broadcast, or listening to any bbc radio station at any time, then you should be ok. Having said that, I think it's a very readonable price to pay for watching whatever I fancy.

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

"As the Uk population grows each year

The amount of Tv licenses sold each year falls

That statistic alone should tell you enough

The Beeb is failing & is doomed

People are voting with their feet !

And the beeb Do Not,

I say they Do Not like it

Hence the array of threatening visits and letters they send to non licensed addresses

I havent had a tv license since 2017

And in that time Ive had 25 threatening letters and 16 visits by their enforcement officers

They don't understand the term Go Away !

hi there fyi You can legally listen to radio without a tv license incl bbc sounds

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By *ammy39Man
3 weeks ago

Glenrothes

Just a thought! Do all those boat invaders (ably assisted by the RNLI taxi service) get to watch TV while being house in hotels?

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

"Just a thought! Do all those boat invaders (ably assisted by the RNLI taxi service) get to watch TV while being house in hotels? "

Yes of course they do, but it's the hotels responsibility to ensure their TV license & their Broadcasting license are up to date not the guests

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

"Just a thought! Do all those boat invaders (ably assisted by the RNLI taxi service) get to watch TV while being house in hotels?

Yes of course they do, but it's the hotels responsibility to ensure their TV license & their Broadcasting license are up to date not the guests

It was only a matter of time before someone made this thread about small boats. The need to do that is like a fucking sti nobody wants.

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By *ammy39Man
3 weeks ago

Glenrothes

"Just a thought! Do all those boat invaders (ably assisted by the RNLI taxi service) get to watch TV while being house in hotels?

Yes of course they do, but it's the hotels responsibility to ensure their TV license & their Broadcasting license are up to date not the guests

But it's no longer a hotel, it's temporary housing apparently. But hey better to leave it as is or the taxpayer will foot the bill for every room

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By *ustinsideMan
3 weeks ago

chester wales border

"I just don’t interact with them at all I haven’t had a license for over 15 years or so now but I don’t watch live TV so my conscience is clear. I did have a few visits when I first stopped paying and I did invite them in to check but it seems they didn’t want to pay £30 admission fee

All letters straight into recycle bin if not addressed to me "

I'm like you I don't even open their letters because they are addressed to the occupier and as I understand it you are not meant to open letters that aren't addressed to you so I just write on them not known at this address and put them back in the post box

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By *tewardMan
3 weeks ago

Falkirk

Don't have and don't require a tv licence as I don't watch or record any live tv. If it's going up again in price next year I'll be saving even more money. I usually open the threatograms for a laugh just too see if they're opening yet another investigation into my address.

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By *ittlewilly100Man
3 weeks ago

Staple Hill, Bristol

And rightly so he should sue the ass off them. They have lied to the UK populace for too long.

They are the lipstick on the ugly face of today's journalism

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By *antyLover66Man
3 weeks ago

Ilkeston

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

The more you talk to them the more they'll harass you, stop it.

Just declare then ignore. Been doing t for ten years. Only had one visit, politely told them I had already declared and removed their implied right of access. Watch chilli _on carne on YouTube

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By *ammy39Man
3 weeks ago

Glenrothes

It's less than 50p per day. Just saying

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By *q oralistMan
3 weeks ago

Torquay

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

"
. When I was being harrassed by them I wrote back in the guise of a German in the 2nd World war writing in English including phrases like "We have veys of making you pay, you English pig dog etc .etc clearly implying they are acting lile fascists. Never heard from them again

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

Dont forget over 80% of whats shown on the bbc you can watch free as long as you dont watch or record it live

And you can legally listen to bbc radio stations free without a license

i had 3 visits from their enforcement officers this year

Even though I havent had a tv license for 7 years

Dont delay Cancel Today !

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By *0yguyMan
3 weeks ago

Cumberland

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

. When I was being harrassed by them I wrote back in the guise of a German in the 2nd World war writing in English including phrases like "We have veys of making you pay, you English pig dog etc .etc clearly implying they are acting lile fascists. Never heard from them again"

Yes, they clearly decided they were dealing with a lunatic.

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By *issy SiMan
3 weeks ago

Horsham

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

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By *issy SiMan
3 weeks ago

Horsham

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

What a ridiculously childish post. You really sound quite pathetic

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

News article ....

The number of paid-for TV licences fell by 314,000 in 2024-25 as 'no licence needed' declarations continue to rise.

The Beeb has lost 4 million license payers since covid & losing more and more every day of the week

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)

"News article ....

The number of paid-for TV licences fell by 314,000 in 2024-25 as 'no licence needed' declarations continue to rise.

The Beeb has lost 4 million license payers since covid & losing more and more every day of the week

Shameless freeloaders, thinking they're edgy when they brag about it but ultimately subsided by us honest licence payers.

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By *laireKTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Manchester

"News article ....

The number of paid-for TV licences fell by 314,000 in 2024-25 as 'no licence needed' declarations continue to rise.

The Beeb has lost 4 million license payers since covid & losing more and more every day of the week

Shameless freeloaders, thinking they're edgy when they brag about it but ultimately subsided by us honest licence payers."

Maybe it's not that simple.

There are several million more people in the UK since COVID, people who are not used to paying a fee like this.

If the population changes the state bodies have to adapt.

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By *ruemaleMan
3 weeks ago

notts

"News article ....

The number of paid-for TV licences fell by 314,000 in 2024-25 as 'no licence needed' declarations continue to rise.

The Beeb has lost 4 million license payers since covid & losing more and more every day of the week

Shameless freeloaders, thinking they're edgy when they brag about it but ultimately subsided by us honest licence payers."

That I agree with.

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By *obsdogMan
3 weeks ago

St Austell

The thing that pissed me of this Christmas. Was that at the beginning of the month the hospital I work at said we couldn't have the eadio on in non public areas because they weren't going to renew the live music licence. It just ruined staff morale.

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By *0yguyMan
3 weeks ago

Cumberland

"The thing that pissed me of this Christmas. Was that at the beginning of the month the hospital I work at said we couldn't have the eadio on in non public areas because they weren't going to renew the live music licence. It just ruined staff morale. "

You mean couldn't have the radio on in public surely. You don’t need a PR licence for non- public areas for private listening.

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By *ottomguy8919Man
3 weeks ago

Thetford

My question is, if everyone in England just stopped paying for the TV licence what could really be done? Think about it the courts are struggling to keep up with everything so far and there simply isn't enough room in prisons for everyone in the country.

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)

"My question is, if everyone in England just stopped paying for the TV licence what could really be done? Think about it the courts are struggling to keep up with everything so far and there simply isn't enough room in prisons for everyone in the country. "

The solution would be to deduct it from people's benefits, or by tax code if they're working. The BBC is a public service for the benefit of us all, just like the NHS.

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By *espectdueMan
3 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

I wish people that don't want to pay it would just stop.

See what happens.

Just stop going on about it.

There is great content on BBC, there are many tv and radio channels.

Don't want to listen, stop paying.

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By *laireKTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Manchester

The solution would be to deduct it from people's benefits, or by tax code if they're working. The BBC is a public service for the benefit of us all, just like the NHS."

Maybe the BBC could be split into a core service paid for through taxation, and a supplementary product for those who enjoy the programming.

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By *0yguyMan
3 weeks ago

Cumberland

The solution would be to deduct it from people's benefits, or by tax code if they're working. The BBC is a public service for the benefit of us all, just like the NHS.

Maybe the BBC could be split into a core service paid for through taxation, and a supplementary product for those who enjoy the programming.

Or just add it onto income tax as a equitable way of funding the public broadcasting service.

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By *ancjay2000Man
3 weeks ago

Manchester

I wish that people who were radicalised by online memes from foreign countries would stop talking shit about the BBC. It's the most trusted news broadcaster in the world, it's programming is absolutely first rate and it's radio content alone is worth the license fee.

The people who attack the BBC are people trying to spin false narratives in order to get people to believe lies, and the truth that the BBC produces daily is a danger to them. Now I'm sure one or two people will start pointing to the odd scandal here and there and ignore the fact that this is a producer of 24 news and has been going for 103 years. It's one of this nation's crown jewels, I don't care what Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson or Donald Trump think of it. It's amazing.

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)

The solution would be to deduct it from people's benefits, or by tax code if they're working. The BBC is a public service for the benefit of us all, just like the NHS.

Maybe the BBC could be split into a core service paid for through taxation, and a supplementary product for those who enjoy the programming.

Or just add it onto income tax as a equitable way of funding the public broadcasting service."

Some good ideas there, we should appreciate the value it provides to our nation.

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By *idingcockMan
3 weeks ago

Driffield

"I wish that people who were radicalised by online memes from foreign countries would stop talking shit about the BBC. It's the most trusted news broadcaster in the world, it's programming is absolutely first rate and it's radio content alone is worth the license fee.

Brilliantly put!

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

If the beeb went off air completely overnight

The world would carry on without their boring content, it can't be classed the same as the nhs the fire service etc

As its only an optional source of entertainment there are plenty of other providers

4 million licenses cancelled since 2020

And the uk population has grown since then

So the proof is in the pudding

The beeb is doomed

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3 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

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By *lackbootzMan
3 weeks ago

Hayes, Middx

"I wish people that don't want to pay it would just stop.

See what happens.

Just stop going on about it.

There is great content on BBC, there are many tv and radio channels.

Don't want to listen, stop paying."

I did stop paying. Many years ago. I don’t want to watch it or listen to it. And that’s fine.

Only problem is I still can’t seem to avoid people like you braying on about what a marvellous treasure the creaking, antiquated BBC and its model is. And the thread tells me that other users would still happily use some of the taxes I pay on the BBC or some similar model if everyone else stopped paying the licence fee.

So I fear I’m going to continue to be fucked over by the soi-disant BBC cognoscenti no matter.

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By *ocky30Man
3 weeks ago

Wellingborough

You mean couldn't have the radio on in public surely. You don’t need a PR licence for non- public areas for private listening."

Yes you do need a PRS licence to play the radio at work - even if it is only in the staff room.

And if you have the TV on and pay for a TV licence you also need a PRS licence as it is all classed as a public performance.

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By *azadarMan
3 weeks ago

North Birmingham

Agreed.

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

The General public of the uk are voting with their feet

Since 2020 2.4 million households have CANCELLED their tv licenses in favour of other services

Another 1.6 million failed to renew their licenses in the same period

Those were estimated to be from people dying, going into care emmigrating etc

Nearly 4 million in total !

That's a huge load of cash that the beeb has lost

And the total amount of tv licenses sold each year continues to fall

You don't have to be a fortune teller to predict the furure of the beeb looks very grim indeed

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By *q oralistMan
3 weeks ago

Torquay

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

Yes, they clearly decided they were dealing with a lunatic."

But a rather calculating lunatic as it served its purpose and they stopped harrassing me - job done

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By *q oralistMan
3 weeks ago

Torquay

On the pother hand long serving ex BBC insiders have written extensivley to reveal how little trust we should putin the BBC.How and why it distorts the news to its own agenda. I am currnetl reading The Noble Liar by Robin ATiken who worked in the Beeb for 25 years. A man of great integrity.

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By *awsMan
3 weeks ago

Portsmouth

The odd Scandal! Where have you been living the last 20 years, you need to remove those rose tinted glasses man!

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By *espectdueMan
3 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

"I wish people that don't want to pay it would just stop.

See what happens.

Just stop going on about it.

There is great content on BBC, there are many tv and radio channels.

Don't want to listen, stop paying.

I did stop paying. Many years ago. I don’t want to watch it or listen to it. And that’s fine.

So I fear I’m going to continue to be fucked over by the soi-disant BBC cognoscenti no matter. "

Diddums.

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)

The odd Scandal! Where have you been living the last 20 years, you need to remove those rose tinted glasses man!"

Yes, the odd scandal is exactly what it is. Mostly involving a few people who were freelancers who also worked at other places. As you say, many of the allegations were carried out over 50-60 years ago, and unconnected to the Beeb.

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By *wansmickMan
3 weeks ago

Belfast

I just don't answer and rip the crap up. I haven't had a license for 20 odd years lol 😂😂.

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

I hope you are proud of yourself.

Thank you for your input. Are you a BBC exec, perhaps?

I am nothing to do with the BBC or Capita.

It’s ironic that you are essentially imitating one of the BBCs most successful characters Victor Meldrew. "

Really,I don't beleeeeve it, honestly Margaret, the gall of some people, it's enough to make you cancel your subscription to the BBC...... oh hold on, some bugger has put a citreon cv in my skip

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By *unMoonTattooMan
3 weeks ago

Wareham

You must have been lobotomized

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

"You must have been lobotomized "

Who me....have you seen the NHS waiting list

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

Newsflash :

On yahoos news today

The beebs christmas viewing figures are out & the worst ever

With their highest number being 4 million for the kings speech

A fraction compared to the previous years

The writing is well and truly on the wall

The been is doomed to fail

Folks aren't watching their content anymore

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By *awsMan
3 weeks ago

Portsmouth

The odd Scandal! Where have you been living the last 20 years, you need to remove those rose tinted glasses man!

Really, what’s the colour of the sky in your world?

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By *egginzboyMan
3 weeks ago

Rugeley

The odd Scandal! Where have you been living the last 20 years, you need to remove those rose tinted glasses man!

Really, what’s the colour of the sky in your world?"

I think it would be a very dull colour

And Sky being an alternative service to the beeb !

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By *2468Man
3 weeks ago

horsham

"No, the other kind of TV...

Here is my reply:

"Dear (jobsworth)

For your enormous records:

No device, TV or not, is being used at my address to watch or record any live TV or BBC iplayer.

Or even to make the toast....

As I have already told you in the course of making this complaint, by means of your (expanded) online form. Why did you have to ask me again? Do you get a performance bonus for enhanced harassment?

Hope this Christmas's TV programming consists of old Soviet propaganda, and that you have to justify the expense of your license by watching it. Over and out, hopefully.

(initials)"

Feel free to copy and use this.

I hope you are proud of yourself. "

I got a letter the other day and they are going too visit my property.

They may be not paid much either and i will tell them politely to fuck off and i dont watch live television and i do not need their letters every 5 minutes.

I will not reach the person who makes the decisions either and all i want is left alone.

They're the sad fucks not us.

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By *ocky30Man
2 weeks ago

Wellingborough

"Newsflash :

On yahoos news today

The beebs christmas viewing figures are out & the worst ever

With their highest number being 4 million for the kings speech

A fraction compared to the previous years

The writing is well and truly on the wall

The been is doomed to fail

Folks aren't watching their content anymore

People are watching but just watching it differently.

Had family staying since Christmas Eve and the TV hasn’t been switched on so if my house was one of the minuscule number in the BARB panel that’s 5 pairs of eyes that would be missing from their algorithm.

The BBC showed things we will all catch up with at some point on iPlayer so they’ll be part of the 7 or 14 day consolidated figure just not the VOSDALs that were being reported.

It’s also more indicative to look at the share rather than the numbers. Take Strictly as an example. Their reported eyes on the screen numbers may be falling but it still attracts around a 50% share of the total TV viewing audience - not too shabby for a company whose content nobody wants to watch anymore…

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

Ive had some friends from Ireland staying and the "tv" has been off since they arrived

We have been playing board games and taking it in turns to do the cooking for one another and going out walking

Their kids are 13 and 11 and are permanently on the internet night n day with their earpphones chatting to their friends and playing online games

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By *nT on the RocksMan
2 weeks ago

Oswestry

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By *nT on the RocksMan
2 weeks ago

Oswestry

Thanks for the clarification. I was stupid enough to believe that Panorama and Newsnight spliced together different parts of Trumps speech during the Biden inauguration to present a completely false narrative of Trump inciting rioters. Now you’ve put me straight I’ll certainly be writing to the DG railing against all these adjacent far right lies.

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

Ditch the beeb

Dont delay ditch today !

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By *addy7x6Man
2 weeks ago

High Wycombe

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion."

He hasn't got a hope. I follow several US vlogs on YouTube, and the point they make is that Orangina is claiming that the BBC used AI to "put words in his mouth". They simply edited out about an hour (yes!) of rambling nonsense, so didn't fake anything.

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By *uffieldMan
2 weeks ago

Hertford

It's a licence not a license.

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

Who cares I haven't got one

And I have been lisence free for 7 years now

I'm due a visit any day now, I had my threatening letter 3 weeks before christmas

They normally knock my door about 6 weeks after the letter

Because I havent responded to their threatening letter

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By *erscumdumpMan
2 weeks ago

Watford

The sooner the BBC goes to subscription only the better. I'm not sure any country needs a public funded broadcaster.

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By *erry_bottomMan
2 weeks ago

Derry

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value."

This has to be rage bait lol

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By *erry_bottomMan
2 weeks ago

Derry

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

Yes but they but words together to make a sentence which he didn't say and it mad him look bad

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By *rowserMan
2 weeks ago

East Kent

It made him look quite bad also when he sat and watched the Capitol building being smashed up and befouled by hordes of rioters while politicians cowered in cupboards fearing for their lives.

He sat and watched for hours as mayhem unfolded and people died, before saying on TV, go home peacefully. Since he likes influential public speaking so much, why did he not say that hours previously?

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By *ldmagic4uMan
2 weeks ago

Clevedon

UK the only place in the world if you don't pay your TV licence can get sent to jail.

In jail they let you watch TV without a licence!! Lol

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By *ruemaleMan
2 weeks ago

notts

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

He doesn't need the BBC to make him look bad. His time will come the evil......

Yes but they but words together to make a sentence which he didn't say and it mad him look bad"

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By *ruemaleMan
2 weeks ago

notts

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

He doesn't need the BBC to make him look bad. His time will come the evil......

Yes but they but words together to make a sentence which he didn't say and it mad him look bad"

He doesn't need the BBC to make him look bad. His time will come the evil......POS

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By *imme99Man
2 weeks ago

South Gloucestershire

If you don't need a licence, you don't need to tell them. Just ignore the letters.

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By *iss TTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Durham

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value."

I agree x

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By *iley_Starr115TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Glasgow

Biggest scam going. I've told them numerous times I don't need a licence as I don't watch live TV. The only media I consume is Netflix and Disney+ of which I pay for both. I just bin any letters they send me now, don't bother replying to them

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By *ancjay2000Man
2 weeks ago

Manchester

As I said. The odd scandal. The actions of one rogue editor making a man who regularly incites violence look like he incited violence slightly more and you're willing to throw out a century old national institution and (as I have said previously) THE MOST TRUSTED BROADCAST NEWS OUTLET IN THE WORLD.

The lurch to the far right in this country makes me want to weep.

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By *laireKTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Manchester

"I just pay by direct debit. No big deal, it's fantastic value.

I agree x"

Judging by this thread, it's clearly right for some people and not suitable for others.

That sounds like consumerism to me.

We need a product which is seen as value for money based on your need.

I think it needs to be tiered.

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By *laireKTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Manchester

The lurch to the far right in this country makes me want to weep. "

It was the arrival of great value for money products like Netflix which undermine the value of the BBC.

Not some unproven far right agenda at all.

People are showing their preference through actions. The days of Xmas BBC shows attracting 12m+ are gone.

The viewing numbers tell us that.

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

Yes but they but words together to make a sentence which he didn't say and it mad him look bad"

The beeb knew exactly what they'd done here i'm not a fan of trump but you can't go altering what someone says to incite violence

The beeb need a stiff sentence for what they did

Heads have already rolled but that's not enough

The organisation needs to be punished here to the full extent of the law

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By *manMan
2 weeks ago

wiltshire near stapleford

I'm obviously woke, whatever that is, loony left wing, PC, and any other derogatory labels some may think. But I pay DD for an excellent TV and radio provided by the BBC. I don't believe everything not do I like all ps the output. But I feel that they provide probably the best TV

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By *evanianMan
2 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru

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By *evanianMan
2 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru

As we approach the second quarter of the 21st century, Aunty Beeb, having served admirably for over a century, now seems like a relic of the past, and no longer fitting today's world. Her recent Christmas offerings were generally abysmal.

Her day is done, her time is over. Time for the final curtain to fall.

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By *rancd2TV/TS
2 weeks ago

Wolverhampton

150 odd quid a year for a single channel of netflix, 110 ish quid a year for a single channel of prime, 75 or so quid a year for Disney again one channel. Sky sports is pushing 250 a year even to new subscribers and that’s for only one kind of entertainment. Same for sky movies, which is separate from the sports.

And yet people keep on insisting that the licence fee isn’t worth it, for all the tv and radio stations it delivers and its myriad of entertainment styles, aswell as the stuff it does online.

At that kind of price, it’s not a problem for me.

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

4 million less tv licenses purchased since 2020, and the uk population is increasing year on year

It's mostly about the quality of viewing content, and the accuracy of news reporting or not as the case maybe

There are certain no go areas of reporting with the beeb

Things happen right under everyones noses that go completely unreported by the good old beeb

As the old saying goes......

There are none so blind as those who don't want to see

There are none so deaf as those who don't want to hear

Cancel cancel cancel !

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By *matoMan
2 weeks ago

somewhere around there

"They're going to need every penny they can get now Trump is sueing them for $10 Billion.

Scammers the world over would love you to represent them!

So according to you I could record your real voice and remix bits and pieces to make it look like you said something you never said, and broadcast it to millions and it would be all perfectly OK? You would love that, surely?

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By *hin white dukeMan
2 weeks ago

North Tyneside

The beeb is worth every penny. The world's most trusted news organisation (no matter what the numpties think) which is the only one that tries to be accurate and unbiased (not saying they always get it right). If you fgo to any other countries you'd realise what a good news service it actually is. Plus hundreds of hours of sports, entertainment, and everything else. If you want Americanised shit, then fair enough, just keep watching Stranger Things and other crap on Netflix, but for people with a broad range of interests and the required number of brain cells, the BBC outshine every other tv service in the world.

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By *egginzboyMan
2 weeks ago

Rugeley

Its strange that some people can't see the wood for the trees

The facts speak for themselves , the beeb has just had its worst christmas ever for extremely low programme audience figures its current news (except on the beeb) check it out

Combine that with the millions that aren't renewing their tv licenses

If the beeb was such excellent value for money then why aren't the tv license numbers increasing along with the increase in uk population?

The rapid decline year after year can only lead to one thing.....

The End

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By *ary1066Man
2 weeks ago

Preston

"The beeb is worth every penny. The world's most trusted news organisation (no matter what the numpties think) which is the only one that tries to be accurate and unbiased (not saying they always get it right). If you fgo to any other countries you'd realise what a good news service it actually is. Plus hundreds of hours of sports, entertainment, and everything else. If you want Americanised shit, then fair enough, just keep watching Stranger Things and other crap on Netflix, but for people with a broad range of interests and the required number of brain cells, the BBC outshine every other tv service in the world. "

Then you pay for it but let others that are not interested in rehashed junk programming at least have the choice to spend our money where we like , simple really if the beeb is so great let it survive the real world and have to fund itself

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By *ldmanMan
2 weeks ago

Rawcliffe Bridge.

I haven't even got a TV aerial, and certainly don't watch iplayer, as the few TV programmes I did watch went woke, Dr who, and the news is so sqewed, and hardly any relevant to the UK.

If a TV company can paint this government in a constantly good light, then there really is something wrong with it.

I haven't paid the TV tax for 12 + years, and still get threatening letters, but no visit, even when it asked if I'd be in on 25th December, as they have scheduled a visit!

Non came!

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By *arty87PLMan
2 weeks ago

leicester

I lived in few different countries, this is the only one where you have to pay TV License. You still could watch live sports legally in there without license, streaming channel was paying it and made money back on advertising.

I would understand paying it here if there were no ads, but paying for advertising is something I cant do.

It is also weird to see how this company lies, get caught on lying, they get sued and have to pay massive fine, but people are happy to pay it for the lying company because of their political stance.

We truly live in strange times

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By *erscumdumpMan
2 weeks ago

Watford

I do wonder how so many people saying the bbc is rubbish so they dont pay the fee know that it's rubbish as they dont watch it. I pay, I watch quite a lot of bbc content. Compared to the other subscriptions I pay - Amazon, Sky, Disney, Netflix - the BBC represents excellent value for money. By all means dont pay if you dont watch or listen, but if you're watching or listening to any BBC content and not paying - well, you're just a wanker really. I'd be happy for the BBC to move to subscription access, so those who dont pay can't access it. I guess the thrill of not paying £175 a year is more important than viewing intelligent content after all.

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