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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford

40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats...

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford

110,000 have applied for asylum in 2025.

Stop this madness.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull

Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

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By *orestguy130Man
4 days ago

Oakham

Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer...

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford

110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

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By *lackbootzMan
4 days ago

Hayes, Middx


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace."

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?"

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

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By *attersbyMan
4 days ago

cotswold

We need these skilled men and women to boost our pensions

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones. "

Who asked you for your 2p worth?

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By *lackbootzMan
4 days ago

Hayes, Middx


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones.

Who asked you for your 2p worth? "

Why do you feel you should be allowed to comment on this thread but others are not allowed?

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better."

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag?

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones.

Who asked you for your 2p worth?

Why do you feel you should be allowed to comment on this thread but others are not allowed? "

Touchy much? I was taking the piss out of Tom's usual atrocious spelling, that's all. Anyone can say what the fuck they like on threads here, as is patently obvious. Far be it from me to deny them that pleasure.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones.

Who asked you for your 2p worth?

Why do you feel you should be allowed to comment on this thread but others are not allowed? "

Some favour cancel culture over debate. The woke up to their old tricks.

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By *ucksitupMan
4 days ago

Shrewsbury


"40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats... "

No no no, everything is ok now. The Government has told us that we went 28 days with no boats so their “smash the gangs” plan is starting to work.

Oh wait… it was down to the really bad weather in the channel and they have started coming again.

As you were.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag? "

My wife's a white American southerner who's here on an indefinite leave to remain visa because she teaches secondary maths in inner city Birmingham, a job most new UK recruits can't hack for more than a couple of years and she's been doing it for 10. Is she the sort of economic migrant you'd approve of? Because I can tell you the political climate around people who come here from elsewhere stresses her the fuck out.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag?

My wife's a white American southerner who's here on an indefinite leave to remain visa because she teaches secondary maths in inner city Birmingham, a job most new UK recruits can't hack for more than a couple of years and she's been doing it for 10. Is she the sort of economic migrant you'd approve of? Because I can tell you the political climate around people who come here from elsewhere stresses her the fuck out. "

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

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By *arridMan
4 days ago

Brighton

Tom, why aren’t you on the Calais beaches helping to stop them? Is it all talk and no action?

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Are you ashamed of your national flag? "

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity. "

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

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By *arridMan
4 days ago

Brighton

The flags made in China

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By *utdoorsGuy666Man
4 days ago

Nottingham


"Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer..."

Same!

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By *attersbyMan
4 days ago

cotswold


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag?

My wife's a white American southerner who's here on an indefinite leave to remain visa because she teaches secondary maths in inner city Birmingham, a job most new UK recruits can't hack for more than a couple of years and she's been doing it for 10. Is she the sort of economic migrant you'd approve of? Because I can tell you the political climate around people who come here from elsewhere stresses her the fuck out. "

Much like it is in America I guess?

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By *arridMan
4 days ago

Brighton

Stop the Bleats!

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?"

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

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By *arridMan
4 days ago

Brighton

Perhaps they are afraid of the ‘boat people’ taking their jobs. That’s a real and genuine concern.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Perhaps they are afraid of the ‘boat people’ taking their jobs. That’s a real and genuine concern. "

Boat people mostly get the shit jobs Brits don't want. A few educated ones get better paid and more responsible ones but you can't argue the don't deserve them if the have the skills.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull

*they*

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down. "

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling.

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By *ad Bod ManMan
4 days ago

Gloucester


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling. "

And of course all the flags flittering around at half mast on bridges and lamp posts after the sheep had their fun, were all sourced from English flag manufacturers and not from Temu or Amazon weren’t they? Keeping English manufacturers in business.

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By *dstefiMan
4 days ago

Solihull


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling. "

I honestly don't give a shit about it. That's not the same as being ashamed of it. People like you make me ashamed to share the same gene pool, I'd not argue with that.

It has very little to do with flags and everything to do with not wanting to be associated with small minded wankers by virtue of my country of birth.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
4 days ago

Chelmsford


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling.

I honestly don't give a shit about it. That's not the same as being ashamed of it. People like you make me ashamed to share the same gene pool, I'd not argue with that.

It has very little to do with flags and everything to do with not wanting to be associated with small minded wankers by virtue of my country of birth."

How enlightening. The post says little anout me and so much about you.

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By *leepflowerMan
4 days ago

Leek

Useless generation... Dumb flag scum... 🎶🕺

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By *evanianMan
4 days ago

Flintshire

Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

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By *espectdueMan
4 days ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧"

And its wonderful ethnic history.

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By *xtraoneMan
4 days ago

Gloucester


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling. "

Wow I bet you wank over our flag

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By *evanianMan
3 days ago

Flintshire


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history. "

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

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By *arridMan
3 days ago

Brighton


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

"

I hope that was Agatha and not John.

The UK for its size has contributed a huge amount to the world. I’m proud of my country but I don’t feel the need to buy a flag from China and hang it on a street lamp. I’m also proud of our democracy and laws - laws which deal with ‘boat people’. What I don’t like are men who are not kind or compassionate and don’t give a toss about others, even though, the personal impact on them is nil and the wider impact is actually negligible.

Keyboard warriors who come across as very ill educated and chippy. Bleating out pointless phrases and insulting others and not having the wit to respond without using AI. Poor show.

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By *icole FanningTV/TS
3 days ago

Navan


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

"

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

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By *egginzboyMan
3 days ago

Rugeley

The small boats could be stopped over night FACT !

If the UK sent cruise ships out to transport these poor people from their country or their closest safe country

That way it would save them trekking for months and months to get to Calais

It would also put a stop to the criminal gangs who traffic them and then they could also bring their women and children with them as well

We should welcome them with open arms and provide them with food and shelter

We have 37 male migrants in our tower block of flats who have made the crossing by small boat theyve come here for a better life from some awful places most of them are friendly and are keen to work

The Uk has plenty of land to build on to provide homes for millions of people who want to come here and we have dozens of cruise ships that we could use to bring them here.

Starmah ffs get your arse in to gear !

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By *evanianMan
3 days ago

Flintshire


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 "

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

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By *tevejbMan
3 days ago

Leeds

Try being human (humane). Welcome all immigrants. Deport the bigots.

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By *ustOneBearMan
3 days ago

Neath


"40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats... "

You ok Hun?

Youve got Fabguys mixed up with Facebook again.

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By *1CrowMan
3 days ago

Sandhurst


"Dingy boats for sure, but nobody talks about the posh boats. What about the ones cruising over here on super yachts, sipping Bolly and Cristal while plotting the overthrow of flag-shagging England? They're the real menace.

You’re away with the fairies. And not the good ones.

Who asked you for your 2p worth?

Why do you feel you should be allowed to comment on this thread but others are not allowed?

Some favour cancel culture over debate. The woke up to their old tricks. "

I never tire of the inane term "woke".

According to right wing sociopaths, being gay is a "woke" thing.

Maybe give your head a wobble ?

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By *tar33Man
3 days ago

North London (outer)


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?"

I'm ashamed of how some people are using it these days.

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By *3versMan
3 days ago

glasgow


"40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats... "

The modern day King Cnut

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By *tar33Man
3 days ago

North London (outer)


"Try being human (humane). Welcome all immigrants. Deport the bigots."

A high proportion of these people are Albanians looking to earn quick easy money. Many end up working in drug gangs and other organised crime networks, to pay off the cost of them being transported over here, and become involved in the violence that goes with it.

Mass immigration has changed the whole demographics of many towns up and down the country.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 days ago

Llandrindod Wells

It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people.

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By *3versMan
3 days ago

glasgow


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people."

Glasgow has become refugee capital of the UK, neighbourhoods are being transformed with the Scottish legal aspect of having to house homeless people which once asylum seekers have been granted refugee status they often do.

The great thing is I've never had a cold McDonald's delivered

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By *enardeMan
3 days ago

Barnsley

Well

It’s a fact that when I’m on high st at school turn out there’s a really very high proportion of migrant kids in the mix where’s a few years ago only one or two

It’s so noticeable as mining areas always had very few black people in their communities

So maybe when you’re counting those actually recorded as coming in you aren’t counting the families that then come and join them

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By *icole FanningTV/TS
3 days ago

Navan


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

If you’re going to go around declaring Irish people are British based on the fact of aggressive illegal occupation, then yes you can expect a backlash.

So by your logical, anyone born during WW2 in a country occupied by Germany, then they were all Germans until they were liberated …

I am most certainly not seeking to provoke or inflame, far from it, in fact, I am merely attempting to provide factual context of which you clearly appear to be unaware.

Ireland's history is a highly complex one, and the Acts of Union united Ireland and Britain under a single government. This is a plain historical fact, not a statement of opinion or allegiance!

Understanding the past, whether it was good or otherwise even when it's highly uncomfortable and emotive, can help us better grasp the present.

Ill mannered outbursts are always futile and serve only to highlight an ugly facet of character.

🇮🇪🇬🇧

"

Please do not presume to know more about Irish history than I do. Anything you’ve said does absolutely nothing to disprove that Oscar Wilde was Irish. And I’ve no interest in further clogging up the OPs post …. I’ve corrected you by saying Wilde was Irish & he was Irish despite whatever country was invading or occupying or power grabbing at the time.

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By *3versMan
3 days ago

glasgow


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

Would you also declare that Mahatma Gandhi was British?

Yes, Gandhi was indeed a British subject until India's independence in 1947, a fact acknowledged by Gandhi himself!

Historical context matters – people's national identities and allegiances evolve over time. Let's focus on understanding the complexities of history rather than getting bogged down in semantics.

"

Semantics are important - I didn't ask if you thought Gandhi was a British subject

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By *ondon RimmerMan
3 days ago

Islington


"but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧"

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So that wasn't you attacking someone for being cd earlier? Hypocrite.

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By *evanianMan
3 days ago

Flintshire


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

Would you also declare that Mahatma Gandhi was British?

Yes, Gandhi was indeed a British subject until India's independence in 1947, a fact acknowledged by Gandhi himself!

Historical context matters – people's national identities and allegiances evolve over time. Let's focus on understanding the complexities of history rather than getting bogged down in semantics.

Semantics are important - I didn't ask if you thought Gandhi was a British subject"

You're now shifting goalposts! I've made my point about historical context. Gandhi's status as a British subject is a matter of history!

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Well

It’s a fact that when I’m on high st at school turn out there’s a really very high proportion of migrant kids in the mix where’s a few years ago only one or two

It’s so noticeable as mining areas always had very few black people in their communities

So maybe when you’re counting those actually recorded as coming in you aren’t counting the families that then come and join them

"

Interesting point. I returned to this town in mid Wales, last year, after a 7 year absence. Currently living close to the high school. This used to be an almost exclusively white town. Now I see loads of kids from ethnic minorities walking past. I'm not criticising. Just stating a fact on how things have changed.

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By *evanianMan
3 days ago

Flintshire


"but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

----------------------------

So that wasn't you attacking someone for being cd earlier? Hypocrite."

Correct!!

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By *evanianMan
3 days ago

Flintshire


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

If you’re going to go around declaring Irish people are British based on the fact of aggressive illegal occupation, then yes you can expect a backlash.

So by your logical, anyone born during WW2 in a country occupied by Germany, then they were all Germans until they were liberated …

I am most certainly not seeking to provoke or inflame, far from it, in fact, I am merely attempting to provide factual context of which you clearly appear to be unaware.

Ireland's history is a highly complex one, and the Acts of Union united Ireland and Britain under a single government. This is a plain historical fact, not a statement of opinion or allegiance!

Understanding the past, whether it was good or otherwise even when it's highly uncomfortable and emotive, can help us better grasp the present.

Ill mannered outbursts are always futile and serve only to highlight an ugly facet of character.

🇮🇪🇬🇧

Please do not presume to know more about Irish history than I do. Anything you’ve said does absolutely nothing to disprove that Oscar Wilde was Irish. And I’ve no interest in further clogging up the OPs post …. I’ve corrected you by saying Wilde was Irish & he was Irish despite whatever country was invading or occupying or power grabbing at the time. "

Despite the axe you are attempting to grind, I have already acknowledged that Oscar Wilde was Irish, and also a British subject - a historical fact that's not up for debate. Period!

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By *lackbootzMan
3 days ago

Hayes, Middx


"…

“I am most certainly not seeking to provoke or inflame…”

“Ill mannered outbursts are always futile and serve only to highlight an ugly facet of character…”

"

Siri, show me some examples of ironic lack of self-awareness that are so egregious they sting like a slap around the cheeks.

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By *arrowCDTV/TS
3 days ago

barrow

Thought this was a warhammer post, disappointed

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By *ocbigMan
3 days ago

Birmingham


"Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer..."

Kind of is…sort of medieval warring that can’t actually be won..or lost.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
3 days ago

south wales and south west

Oh good, yet another hysterical post about asylum seekers branded as economic migrants. Tom knows more than any border agency, any government official past or present, any charity worker, social worker or home office employee. He knows more than any statistician, any journalist or anyone remotely connected to the asylum process.

Ladies and gents, it's time to vote Tom_Essex into the premiership, he is all knowing and will stop the boats single handedly. Fuck farage and his weak minions, Tom is the man!

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 days ago

Waterlooville

Two things, first this is really borning.

Second I will leave it up to someone more gifted than me to settle the history question

Being born in a stable does not make one a horse" is a famous quote associated with the Duke of Wellington.

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By *ocbigMan
3 days ago

Birmingham


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people."

I believe it is the cost that annoys most people, so call me naive, but surely the answer is instead of putting that money into ‘storing’ people for long periods of time, recruit , train and pay people to process within a realistic time frame. Solves most issues, the applicants are not stuck in limbo, less money spent on accommodation, jobs created to process, makes UK less attractive if the likelihood of being denied is high and accomplished in a timely manner allied to quick return of applicants, set up in Europe and reduce boat crossings that way….doesn’t sound as ‘sexy’ as smash the gangs…stop the boats etc does it …..’ fill some forms’ …’ process the people’

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By *MZ10458Man
3 days ago

rotherham


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people."

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
3 days ago

south wales and south west


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people.

I believe it is the cost that annoys most people, so call me naive, but surely the answer is instead of putting that money into ‘storing’ people for long periods of time, recruit , train and pay people to process within a realistic time frame. Solves most issues, the applicants are not stuck in limbo, less money spent on accommodation, jobs created to process, makes UK less attractive if the likelihood of being denied is high and accomplished in a timely manner allied to quick return of applicants, set up in Europe and reduce boat crossings that way….doesn’t sound as ‘sexy’ as smash the gangs…stop the boats etc does it …..’ fill some forms’ …’ process the people’"

The way to stop the boats is simple but not politically favourable. Simply have processing centres in france, staffed with british border agents (like at calais) and process claims within a set time frame. Boats will stop, people can go cry about pride parades again and all will be back to normal. Unfortunately, there is no political will to do so. This topic is an election winner or loser depending on how the moral compass of the country is pointing at the time.

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By *ornybisubslutMan
3 days ago

Coventry

Our birth rate is dropping our population is aging. There are already skills shortages in multiple sectors, including health, engineering, building trades, social care etc.

Let them come, they get jobs and contribute. The ills of this country are not caused by people in boats. It’s caused by millionaires and billionaires trying to stay rich. People in small boats have not been in control of power for decades. The small boats are a distraction.

Replace small boats or immigrant with jew and you will see how close the rhetoric is to a party in Germany in the 1930s.

That party came first the gays too. The right will do the same here. Just remember that as you cheer them on.

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By *DAnnetteTV/TS
3 days ago

Daventry


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

If you’re going to go around declaring Irish people are British based on the fact of aggressive illegal occupation, then yes you can expect a backlash.

So by your logical, anyone born during WW2 in a country occupied by Germany, then they were all Germans until they were liberated …

I am most certainly not seeking to provoke or inflame, far from it, in fact, I am merely attempting to provide factual context of which you clearly appear to be unaware.

Ireland's history is a highly complex one, and the Acts of Union united Ireland and Britain under a single government. This is a plain historical fact, not a statement of opinion or allegiance!

Understanding the past, whether it was good or otherwise even when it's highly uncomfortable and emotive, can help us better grasp the present.

Ill mannered outbursts are always futile and serve only to highlight an ugly facet of character.

🇮🇪🇬🇧

Please do not presume to know more about Irish history than I do. Anything you’ve said does absolutely nothing to disprove that Oscar Wilde was Irish. And I’ve no interest in further clogging up the OPs post …. I’ve corrected you by saying Wilde was Irish & he was Irish despite whatever country was invading or occupying or power grabbing at the time.

Despite the axe you are attempting to grind, I have already acknowledged that Oscar Wilde was Irish, and also a British subject - a historical fact that's not up for debate. Period!"

Whatever way you cut it you cannot state that Oscar Wilde was a part of Britain's contribution to the world,any more than you can say that W,B, Yeats, George Bernard Shaw, J.M Synge, James Joyce, Oliver Goldsmith, Sean O'Casey and Richard Brinsley Sheridan were. All Irish, not British.

Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington and our only Irish born Prime Minister famously denied his Irish heritage by stating 'a man maybe born in a stable, but that doesn't make him a horse' He was still Irish!!

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By *itherneitherTV/TS
3 days ago

Burnham on sea

The dinghies are not bringing in economic migrants.

Because they are not legally allowed to work.

Neither are the asylum seekers, because you're suppsed to seek asylum at the first safe border.

The legal migrants are economic migrants.

Moving people is big business

The trafickers have a sales pitch.

The NGO's make money from bringing them in, processing the claims, housing them, the lawyers make money fighting their cases, not to mention the govt jobs involved.

Meanwhile, they make genuine asylem seekers situation worse.

This( like many things) should not be a polirical issue.

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By *fcdTV/TS
3 days ago

Southend

I’d rather have them than a country full of people like the OP tbh.

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By *ello 1000Man
3 days ago

Lincolnshire


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag? "

Sadly , at the moment , I am quite ashamed of our flag ,, I fly a St George's flag or the Union flag at times of sporting events , i would normally be flying my flag now with The Ashes taking place in Australia but I am not , I also didn't put the flag up for England's last football international,, not because I wasn't supporting my nation but because of the type of people currently also flying flags ( I was flying our flag when they weren't ) ,, I can only really talk for the people around me but those now flying the flag tend to be the racist homophobic type and I have no wish or desire to be associated with these people ,, very sad really because it is my flag not theirs ,, somehow we need to claim it back

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By *ocbigMan
3 days ago

Birmingham


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people.

I believe it is the cost that annoys most people, so call me naive, but surely the answer is instead of putting that money into ‘storing’ people for long periods of time, recruit , train and pay people to process within a realistic time frame. Solves most issues, the applicants are not stuck in limbo, less money spent on accommodation, jobs created to process, makes UK less attractive if the likelihood of being denied is high and accomplished in a timely manner allied to quick return of applicants, set up in Europe and reduce boat crossings that way….doesn’t sound as ‘sexy’ as smash the gangs…stop the boats etc does it …..’ fill some forms’ …’ process the people’

The way to stop the boats is simple but not politically favourable. Simply have processing centres in france, staffed with british border agents (like at calais) and process claims within a set time frame. Boats will stop, people can go cry about pride parades again and all will be back to normal. Unfortunately, there is no political will to do so. This topic is an election winner or loser depending on how the moral compass of the country is pointing at the time.

"

Agreed, but why isn’t it politically favorable? Surely most people want something done, want to see results, want a humane solution? Sure for some nothing short of bombing the boats( now a precedent has been set albeit not bombing immigrants) will do, but that minority will surely be quieted by the number reduction.

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By *lackbootzMan
3 days ago

Hayes, Middx


"Oh good, yet another hysterical post about asylum seekers branded as economic migrants. Tom knows more than any border agency, any government official past or present, any charity worker, social worker or home office employee. He knows more than any statistician, any journalist or anyone remotely connected to the asylum process.

Ladies and gents, it's time to vote Tom_Essex into the premiership, he is all knowing and will stop the boats single handedly. Fuck farage and his weak minions, Tom is the man!

"

My real fear is that Tom already works for the Home Office and that’s why we’re in the mess we are.

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By *1CrowMan
3 days ago

Sandhurst


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?"

I am now, since it was hijacked by angry far right knuckledragger losers. I want my flag back.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
3 days ago

south wales and south west


"It is a concern. A lot of people turning up without accommodation and jobs ready for them to go to. Unlike legal immigrants. We the taxpayers are expected to fund them whilst they are being 'processed' which takes months if not years. Are they all going to be skilled engineers, doctors, nurses, etc? Will they eventually be valuable contributors to society and the well being of our country? Will they even make any effort to fit-in with our way of life/ I have serious doubts and so do a good many people.

I believe it is the cost that annoys most people, so call me naive, but surely the answer is instead of putting that money into ‘storing’ people for long periods of time, recruit , train and pay people to process within a realistic time frame. Solves most issues, the applicants are not stuck in limbo, less money spent on accommodation, jobs created to process, makes UK less attractive if the likelihood of being denied is high and accomplished in a timely manner allied to quick return of applicants, set up in Europe and reduce boat crossings that way….doesn’t sound as ‘sexy’ as smash the gangs…stop the boats etc does it …..’ fill some forms’ …’ process the people’

The way to stop the boats is simple but not politically favourable. Simply have processing centres in france, staffed with british border agents (like at calais) and process claims within a set time frame. Boats will stop, people can go cry about pride parades again and all will be back to normal. Unfortunately, there is no political will to do so. This topic is an election winner or loser depending on how the moral compass of the country is pointing at the time.

Agreed, but why isn’t it politically favorable? Surely most people want something done, want to see results, want a humane solution? Sure for some nothing short of bombing the boats( now a precedent has been set albeit not bombing immigrants) will do, but that minority will surely be quieted by the number reduction."

It's not politically favourable because it's a distraction from the real issues. While us mere minions are arguing about dinghies, we are distracted from other policies that consecutive governments have allowed and passed which negatively affect the country and do nothing to help the average person on a day to day basis.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
3 days ago

south wales and south west


"Oh good, yet another hysterical post about asylum seekers branded as economic migrants. Tom knows more than any border agency, any government official past or present, any charity worker, social worker or home office employee. He knows more than any statistician, any journalist or anyone remotely connected to the asylum process.

Ladies and gents, it's time to vote Tom_Essex into the premiership, he is all knowing and will stop the boats single handedly. Fuck farage and his weak minions, Tom is the man!

My real fear is that Tom already works for the Home Office and that’s why we’re in the mess we are. "

That's a terrifying prospect

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By *orwdMan
3 days ago

Sheffield

Give each a voucher for accommodation by a Green apparently they welcome them. Should make for a happy Christmas.

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By *lackbootzMan
3 days ago

Hayes, Middx

I note that our resident “expert” is providing his unique take on British cultural history.

I will remind you that Mahatma Gandhi famously said: “I am not anti-English; I am not anti-British; I am not anti-any Government… but I am anti-untruth, anti-humbug, and anti-injustice.”

Whilst the sprightly republican and son of an Irish nationalist mother, Oscar Wilde, famously said: “I am not English; I'm Irish which is quite another thing".

Please ignore contributions from the resident “expert”. You can’t expect him to read and understand all the stuff he culls from the internet.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Our birth rate is dropping our population is aging. There are already skills shortages in multiple sectors, including health, engineering, building trades, social care etc.

Let them come, they get jobs and contribute. The ills of this country are not caused by people in boats. It’s caused by millionaires and billionaires trying to stay rich. People in small boats have not been in control of power for decades. The small boats are a distraction.

Replace small boats or immigrant with jew and you will see how close the rhetoric is to a party in Germany in the 1930s.

That party came first the gays too. The right will do the same here. Just remember that as you cheer them on. "

Some of the things you say may well be true. Maybe we are heading for a skills shortage with out dwindling birthrate and ageing population. But are illegal boat people, arriving on our shores, going to solve the problem?

Legal immigrants arrive via scheduled flights and ferries. They have pre-arranged jobs and accommodation to go to. Often a great asset to some institutions like the NHS.

Can the 'boat people' be trained to be doctors, nurses, engineers, police etc? Do they have the skills, ability and willingness? Some seem to be coming for an easy life. No doubt brainwashed by the people traffickers that the UK is a soft touch, that they will be welcomed, housed, fed and well looked after.

Same as I here some armchair experts suggest our indigenous unemployed should be trained up in necessary skills. I worked all my life including serving in the army. Yet I got rejected when I applied to join the police and I would be totally unsuited to do anything in the medical profession.

Although moderately right-wing I intensely dislike Farage and his shoddy, 'simple solutions' party although I can understand frustrated people flocking to their ranks. You cannot really compare it to Nazi Germany's anti-Jewish policies. The Jews had been legally in Germany for centuries and were major contributors, rather than scroungers, of the state.

Also would be interesting to know the attitude of said 'boat people' towards gays. Remember a lot of them come from vehemently anti-gay cultures.

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By *aremanMan
3 days ago

Hingham


"The dinghies are not bringing in economic migrants.

Because they are not legally allowed to work.

Neither are the asylum seekers, because you're suppsed to seek asylum at the first safe border.

The legal migrants are economic migrants.

Moving people is big business

The trafickers have a sales pitch.

The NGO's make money from bringing them in, processing the claims, housing them, the lawyers make money fighting their cases, not to mention the govt jobs involved.

Meanwhile, they make genuine asylem seekers situation worse.

This( like many things) should not be a polirical issue.

"

One more point here: if immigrants wanting to live here could demonstrate useful skills, training or qualifications, they would face little difficulty in obtaining residence legally. The illegals on boats (or smuggled in by other means) bring nothing useful to our country...by definition.

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By *ubfordom-travellingMan
3 days ago

south wales and south west


"Our birth rate is dropping our population is aging. There are already skills shortages in multiple sectors, including health, engineering, building trades, social care etc.

Let them come, they get jobs and contribute. The ills of this country are not caused by people in boats. It’s caused by millionaires and billionaires trying to stay rich. People in small boats have not been in control of power for decades. The small boats are a distraction.

Replace small boats or immigrant with jew and you will see how close the rhetoric is to a party in Germany in the 1930s.

That party came first the gays too. The right will do the same here. Just remember that as you cheer them on.

Some of the things you say may well be true. Maybe we are heading for a skills shortage with out dwindling birthrate and ageing population. But are illegal boat people, arriving on our shores, going to solve the problem?

Legal immigrants arrive via scheduled flights and ferries. They have pre-arranged jobs and accommodation to go to. Often a great asset to some institutions like the NHS.

Can the 'boat people' be trained to be doctors, nurses, engineers, police etc? Do they have the skills, ability and willingness? Some seem to be coming for an easy life. No doubt brainwashed by the people traffickers that the UK is a soft touch, that they will be welcomed, housed, fed and well looked after.

Same as I here some armchair experts suggest our indigenous unemployed should be trained up in necessary skills. I worked all my life including serving in the army. Yet I got rejected when I applied to join the police and I would be totally unsuited to do anything in the medical profession.

Although moderately right-wing I intensely dislike Farage and his shoddy, 'simple solutions' party although I can understand frustrated people flocking to their ranks. You cannot really compare it to Nazi Germany's anti-Jewish policies. The Jews had been legally in Germany for centuries and were major contributors, rather than scroungers, of the state.

Also would be interesting to know the attitude of said 'boat people' towards gays. Remember a lot of them come from vehemently anti-gay cultures."

To answer the question, yes. They could be trained to be drs, nurses, police, military, carers, fast food workers or any other role they may or may not be qualified to do.

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals.

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By *ontainsnutzMan
3 days ago

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Speaking to a colleague who is a bit of a conspiracy theorist, he suggested that the boat "MEN" are a ready made army for the invasion of the U.K.

Make of that what you will.

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By *aremanMan
3 days ago

Hingham


"....Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals."

They enter the country illegally, They may claim asylum, but until their case is heard, they have no valid claim. If they have skills we need they shouldn't be providing a market for criminal gangs but applying through our existing procedures.

And we don't have room for them.

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By *MZ10458Man
3 days ago

rotherham


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

I'm ashamed of how some people are using it these days."

I’m more ashamed of the cunts taking them down

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By *MZ10458Man
3 days ago

rotherham


"Give each a voucher for accommodation by a Green apparently they welcome them. Should make for a happy Christmas. "

Straight round to Zacs house

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Can the 'boat people' be trained to be doctors, nurses, engineers, police etc? Do they have the skills, ability and willingness? Some seem to be coming for an easy life. No doubt brainwashed by the people traffickers that the UK is a soft touch, that they will be welcomed, housed, fed and well looked after.

Same as I here some armchair experts suggest our indigenous unemployed should be trained up in necessary skills. I worked all my life including serving in the army. Yet I got rejected when I applied to join the police and I would be totally unsuited to do anything in the medical profession.

Although moderately right-wing I intensely dislike Farage and his shoddy, 'simple solutions' party although I can understand frustrated people flocking to their ranks. You cannot really compare it to Nazi Germany's anti-Jewish policies. The Jews had been legally in Germany for centuries and were major contributors, rather than scroungers, of the state.

Also would be interesting to know the attitude of said 'boat people' towards gays. Remember a lot of them come from vehemently anti-gay cultures.

To answer the question, yes. They could be trained to be drs, nurses, police, military, carers, fast food workers or any other role they may or may not be qualified to do.

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals."

In a fantasy world as espoused by some politicians who are out of touch with reality. Of the jobs you list probably fast-food outlet workers and carers would be the only viable careers. Even then they would need training, dedication, social skills and language skills. It takes specialist skills to be doctors, nurses, police, military etc.

Also how can they be legal when they just turn up on our shores unannounced. You go abroad and try re-entering this country without a passport. You'd soon be arrested. Yes people can seek asylum but are these people genuine asylum seekers? A large contingent are from Albania which is not being torn apart by civil war, is not being invaded by a foreign power and does not have an oppressive government. No doubt some are coming from similar countries. Face reality. A lot of them are economic migrants who will probably contribute very little to the well being of this country

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By *MZ10458Man
3 days ago

rotherham


"Give each a voucher for accommodation by a Green apparently they welcome them. Should make for a happy Christmas. "

Straight round to Zacs house

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By *1CrowMan
3 days ago

Sandhurst


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

I'm ashamed of how some people are using it these days.

I’m more ashamed of the cunts taking them down"

I take down flags and I'm proud of it.

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By *fcdTV/TS
3 days ago

Southend


"

I take down flags and I'm proud of it."

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By *untzMan
3 days ago

Nantwich Cheshire

Bizarre! Three threads down guys are talking about sucking a black guys cock. You couldn't make it up could you!

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By *ames canMan
3 days ago

monaghan


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 "

...Oscar arrived by boat....

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By *arridMan
3 days ago

Brighton


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

I'm ashamed of how some people are using it these days.

I’m more ashamed of the cunts taking them down"

That would include those Reform counsellors that ordered them to be removed

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By *eebl6666Man
3 days ago

castlebar

I thought this was going to be warhammer 40k

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By *igballs4u2tugMan
3 days ago

South Cheshire


"Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Nice try but I am very happy to identify as British English. I embrace all the British values my wife is required by law to put into kids at her school.

I don't need to hang a fucking Temu flag on a lamppost to prove anything to anyone, and specifically not to intimidate people who don't share my privilege of birth here.

The real patriots don't need to shout about it like sheep led by wankers like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. We are secure in our identity.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?

Tell you what. You wank into yours and I'll fly mine (and if I do I'll look for a genuine made in England one, don't worry) when I fucking well feel like it.

Flags are just symbols for stupid people to signal with when they feel insecure about everything else. Real patriots don't feel insecure or need to do anybody else down.

So it seems you are ashamed of our national flag. Very telling. "

No, it says a lot about you.

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By *amarinMan
3 days ago

St Helens


"

Can the 'boat people' be trained to be doctors, nurses, engineers, police etc? Do they have the skills, ability and willingness? Some seem to be coming for an easy life. No doubt brainwashed by the people traffickers that the UK is a soft touch, that they will be welcomed, housed, fed and well looked after.

Same as I here some armchair experts suggest our indigenous unemployed should be trained up in necessary skills. I worked all my life including serving in the army. Yet I got rejected when I applied to join the police and I would be totally unsuited to do anything in the medical profession.

Although moderately right-wing I intensely dislike Farage and his shoddy, 'simple solutions' party although I can understand frustrated people flocking to their ranks. You cannot really compare it to Nazi Germany's anti-Jewish policies. The Jews had been legally in Germany for centuries and were major contributors, rather than scroungers, of the state.

Also would be interesting to know the attitude of said 'boat people' towards gays. Remember a lot of them come from vehemently anti-gay cultures.

To answer the question, yes. They could be trained to be drs, nurses, police, military, carers, fast food workers or any other role they may or may not be qualified to do.

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals.

In a fantasy world as espoused by some politicians who are out of touch with reality. Of the jobs you list probably fast-food outlet workers and carers would be the only viable careers. Even then they would need training, dedication, social skills and language skills. It takes specialist skills to be doctors, nurses, police, military etc.

Also how can they be legal when they just turn up on our shores unannounced. You go abroad and try re-entering this country without a passport. You'd soon be arrested. Yes people can seek asylum but are these people genuine asylum seekers? A large contingent are from Albania which is not being torn apart by civil war, is not being invaded by a foreign power and does not have an oppressive government. No doubt some are coming from similar countries. Face reality. A lot of them are economic migrants who will probably contribute very little to the well being of this country"

Bet you and loads of others take your car to them to be cleaned. Queue a mile long at the one near me

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 days ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals.

In a fantasy world as espoused by some politicians who are out of touch with reality. Of the jobs you list probably fast-food outlet workers and carers would be the only viable careers. Even then they would need training, dedication, social skills and language skills. It takes specialist skills to be doctors, nurses, police, military etc.

Also how can they be legal when they just turn up on our shores unannounced. You go abroad and try re-entering this country without a passport. You'd soon be arrested. Yes people can seek asylum but are these people genuine asylum seekers? A large contingent are from Albania which is not being torn apart by civil war, is not being invaded by a foreign power and does not have an oppressive government. No doubt some are coming from similar countries. Face reality. A lot of them are economic migrants who will probably contribute very little to the well being of this country

Bet you and loads of others take your car to them to be cleaned. Queue a mile long at the one near me"

That has got to be No 1 in the worse argument list. The only time I used to take my car to be cleaned was to four Polish immigrant, who had arrived here legally, and who had taken the lease on a disused filling station to carry out their legitimate business of car cleaning and valeting. Until they have been processed, which can take months if not years, said 'boat people' do not work. Most seem to hang around shopping centres or outside girls schools, making a nuisance of themselves.

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By *attersbyMan
3 days ago

cotswold


"I thought this was going to be warhammer 40k "

More like “War and peace”!!

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By *iFun76Man
3 days ago

Wallingford

😂😂😂😂

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By *ello 1000Man
3 days ago

Lincolnshire


"

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals.

In a fantasy world as espoused by some politicians who are out of touch with reality. Of the jobs you list probably fast-food outlet workers and carers would be the only viable careers. Even then they would need training, dedication, social skills and language skills. It takes specialist skills to be doctors, nurses, police, military etc.

Also how can they be legal when they just turn up on our shores unannounced. You go abroad and try re-entering this country without a passport. You'd soon be arrested. Yes people can seek asylum but are these people genuine asylum seekers? A large contingent are from Albania which is not being torn apart by civil war, is not being invaded by a foreign power and does not have an oppressive government. No doubt some are coming from similar countries. Face reality. A lot of them are economic migrants who will probably contribute very little to the well being of this country

Bet you and loads of others take your car to them to be cleaned. Queue a mile long at the one near me

That has got to be No 1 in the worse argument list. The only time I used to take my car to be cleaned was to four Polish immigrant, who had arrived here legally, and who had taken the lease on a disused filling station to carry out their legitimate business of car cleaning and valeting. Until they have been processed, which can take months if not years, said 'boat people' do not work. Most seem to hang around shopping centres or outside girls schools, making a nuisance of themselves."

Asylum seekers are NOT ALLOWED to work

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By *weddolMan
3 days ago

Chester

Tom Essex, I hope you manage to log off from the Internet over the festive period and find yourself some peace.

Spend some time with family or watch some entertainment on TV.

The news and social media you seem to be addicted to is not helping you at all.

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By *ew trixTV/TS
3 days ago

doncaster


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?"

40,000 of those are gimmegrants

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 days ago

Chelmsford


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

…. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien“ …

Are you referring to Oscar Wilde ? An Irishman, born in Dublin ? Get your facts right 🇮🇪 🇮🇪

At the time of dear old Oscar Wilde, Ireland was under direct British Rule old boy, indeed one should always attempt to get ones facts correct! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

You complete pompous fool. Oscar Wilde was born in Dublin, Ireland. He was Irish. His nationality didn’t change because England invaded Ireland 🇮🇪

Yes, without doubt Oscar Wilde was indeed Irish by birth and heritage. However, during his lifetime, Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, and as such, he was a British subject.

This was the case for all residents of Ireland from 1801, when the Acts of Union took effect, until the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922, although Ireland had been under British Rule since the time of Henry VIII in 1542!

It's a matter of historical fact, rather than a reflection on his personal identity or nationality. The complexities of history can sometimes be multifaceted, and it's possible to acknowledge Wilde's Irish roots while also recognising the political reality of the time.

I understand your strong feelings on the matter, but there's certainly no need for crass personal attacks – a discussion of historical facts is perfectly possible without hostility and an unwarranted outburst of ill-manners!

🇮🇪🇬🇧

Would you also declare that Mahatma Gandhi was British?

Yes, Gandhi was indeed a British subject until India's independence in 1947, a fact acknowledged by Gandhi himself!

Historical context matters – people's national identities and allegiances evolve over time. Let's focus on understanding the complexities of history rather than getting bogged down in semantics.

Semantics are important - I didn't ask if you thought Gandhi was a British subject

You're now shifting goalposts! I've made my point about historical context. Gandhi's status as a British subject is a matter of history!

"

Ghandi is overated in my opinion. After all, he only one decent movie!

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By *hilxxMan
3 days ago

lincoln


"40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats... "

You're probably one who voted for brexit, which has caused the boat problem. Before credit we could deport anyone arriving illegally straight back, now we cant. By law we have to give them shelter. My question to you is, how do we stop them, and if we do ,do you really think that will cure the problems we face because of 14 years of Tory neglect? And if right wing politics failed us so badly do you honestly think the far right is the answer?

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By *23456abc1Man
3 days ago

Chineham

It’s worth saying clearly: seeking asylum is a legal right — not a crime.

Under Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) and the 1951 UN Refugee Convention (which the UK helped to draft and ratified in 1954), anyone fleeing war or persecution has the right to seek asylum — regardless of how they entered the country. The UK’s Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 recognises this too. So despite what some headlines claim, there is no such thing as an “illegal asylum seeker.”

Most people claiming asylum in the UK come from places like Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, Eritrea, and Syria — countries torn apart by war, dictatorship, or religious persecution. Many have seen family members killed, imprisoned, or tortured.

And here’s the truth: they often have no choice about how they come here. Smugglers and traffickers decide the routes, not the passengers — some don’t even know they’re heading to the UK until they land. That’s made worse by the fact that the Conservative government has closed nearly all safe, legal routes for asylum since 2016, leaving desperate people no lawful way to reach safety.

So when they arrive and claim asylum, they’re doing exactly what the law allows them to do — and what we as a country agreed to uphold after World War II.

As for the banners saying “House Brits, Not Illegals” — the real causes of the housing crisis and NHS pressures are not asylum seekers.

🏘️ Housing: The UK has had decades of underinvestment in affordable homes, government cuts to council house building, and a housing market dominated by private developers and landlords. The average asylum seeker can’t even rent privately or work while waiting for a decision — they get about £6 a day and live in temporary accommodation chosen by the Home Office.

🏥 NHS: Chronic staff shortages, years of pay freezes, and funding cuts are the main reasons the NHS is overstretched — not refugees, who make up a tiny fraction of service users, and who often later become NHS workers themselves.

💷 Cost of living: Energy companies, rent inflation, and low wages — not migrants — are what’s squeezing most families.

The irony is, most ordinary Brits have more in common with an asylum seeker than with millionaire politicians or media figures who stoke this anger. People like Nigel Farage or Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (who calls himself Tommy Robinson) don’t share your struggles — they exploit them for attention.

We all want safety, security, and a fair shot at a decent life. That’s something that unites us — whether we were born here or fled here.

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By *lackbootzMan
3 days ago

Hayes, Middx


"Speaking to a colleague who is a bit of a conspiracy theorist, he suggested that the boat "MEN" are a ready made army for the invasion of the U.K.

Make of that what you will. "

Does he live in Essex..? Does he know Tom..?

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By *rimroseTV/TS
3 days ago

Epsom

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By *naris22Man
3 days ago

Kidderminster


"Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer..."

Same! The disappointment is real.

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By *etterbiggerMan
3 days ago

Scunthorpe


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better.

Why mention skin colour?. It matters not who they are or where they are from.

Are you ashamed of your national flag?

My wife's a white American southerner who's here on an indefinite leave to remain visa because she teaches secondary maths in inner city Birmingham, a job most new UK recruits can't hack for more than a couple of years and she's been doing it for 10. Is she the sort of economic migrant you'd approve of? Because I can tell you the political climate around people who come here from elsewhere stresses her the fuck out.

As I asked. Are you ashamed of your national flag?"

They are on lampposts all over this sceptered Isle. Well England. I didn't see any in Scotland when I was there this week. They are only half way up. Are they all at half mast for some reason. I think it's extremely patriotic of us to buy hundreds of thousands of union jacks or st George's flags. It must be helping the Chinese economy enormously. 5k about, they reckon it costs a migrant to be transported here. They don't walk from countries like Syria with an dinghy on their heads. 5k x 40,000. Do the maths organised crime is making a fortune out of selling a dream to desperate people. Send the SAS in to finish off the criminals responsible for this

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By *ivid AppleMan
3 days ago

Fakenham/Holt


"Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer...

Same! The disappointment is real. "

Yeah! Let's love each other and start talking about 40k instead.

You know those Primaris are packing! I wouldn't mind being on the receiving end of a Orc horde.

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By *oungotter31Man
3 days ago

Shrewsbury


"Came to this post hoping it was about warhammer...

Same! The disappointment is real.

Yeah! Let's love each other and start talking about 40k instead.

You know those Primaris are packing! I wouldn't mind being on the receiving end of a Orc horde."

Orcs are hot!! I recently played a video game called "Robin Morningwood" and it's given me a bit of a thing for orcs!

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By *ch69Man
3 days ago

croydon


"110,000 is more than the population of Doncaster. Whats going.on here guys?

Your country and heritage is being pillaged by dark skinned foreigners and all you can do about it is post impotently on a site where most men come in hopes of anal sex, some of them with similarly pale complexioned fellow travellers.

Sucks being you. Try putting another flag on a lamppost, you'll feel better."

“Dark skinned”?????????

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By *hrobinsonMan
3 days ago

South Shropshire


"Thought this was a warhammer post, disappointed"

Was most disappointing!

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By *MZ10458Man
3 days ago

rotherham


"Our birth rate is dropping our population is aging. There are already skills shortages in multiple sectors, including health, engineering, building trades, social care etc.

Let them come, they get jobs and contribute. The ills of this country are not caused by people in boats. It’s caused by millionaires and billionaires trying to stay rich. People in small boats have not been in control of power for decades. The small boats are a distraction.

Replace small boats or immigrant with jew and you will see how close the rhetoric is to a party in Germany in the 1930s.

That party came first the gays too. The right will do the same here. Just remember that as you cheer them on.

Some of the things you say may well be true. Maybe we are heading for a skills shortage with out dwindling birthrate and ageing population. But are illegal boat people, arriving on our shores, going to solve the problem?

Legal immigrants arrive via scheduled flights and ferries. They have pre-arranged jobs and accommodation to go to. Often a great asset to some institutions like the NHS.

Can the 'boat people' be trained to be doctors, nurses, engineers, police etc? Do they have the skills, ability and willingness? Some seem to be coming for an easy life. No doubt brainwashed by the people traffickers that the UK is a soft touch, that they will be welcomed, housed, fed and well looked after.

Same as I here some armchair experts suggest our indigenous unemployed should be trained up in necessary skills. I worked all my life including serving in the army. Yet I got rejected when I applied to join the police and I would be totally unsuited to do anything in the medical profession.

Although moderately right-wing I intensely dislike Farage and his shoddy, 'simple solutions' party although I can understand frustrated people flocking to their ranks. You cannot really compare it to Nazi Germany's anti-Jewish policies. The Jews had been legally in Germany for centuries and were major contributors, rather than scroungers, of the state.

Also would be interesting to know the attitude of said 'boat people' towards gays. Remember a lot of them come from vehemently anti-gay cultures.

To answer the question, yes. They could be trained to be drs, nurses, police, military, carers, fast food workers or any other role they may or may not be qualified to do.

Again referring to them as illegals is part of the problem, they are not illegal, as determined in British and international law. They are in the majority asylum seekers and those that are not, are deported. It's long past the time where we talk about migrants in such distasteful and deliberately inflammatory ways and long past due to announce deportations, rather than arrivals."

They are illegal migrants!!

They should seek asylum in the first country they land in

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By *lueshirt1Man
3 days ago

Berwick upon Tweed/East lothian/Edinburgh

Very worrying that the government is doing nothing about it. In my work I frequently come across migrants who have been here for years who cant speak English, have no skills to offer and are getting everything paid on Universal Credit , men and women in their 20's and 30's. With hundreds of similar coming here every week its impossible to predict what the outcome will be. In the meantime I think the cities will be all foreign and the Brits will be pushed out to the countryside.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
2 days ago

Chelmsford

Stop the Boats

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By *ello 1000Man
2 days ago

Lincolnshire


"Stop the Boats "

When Sunak first appeared at the lectern which read "stop the boats" I thought it was someone who had photoshopped what the message actually said

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By *itherMan
2 days ago

Leeds


"40,000 economic migrants have arrived this year on dingy boats alone so far and still rising.

Towns with a population of around 40,000 include the whole of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales, Wokingham in Surrey, Jarrow in the North, and Grantham in the Midlands.

Now these are big numbers. This does not include those arriving on student visas, tourist visas or family reunion visas.

Stop the boats... "

They are stocking up on cannon fodder for when the bottom falls out.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
2 days ago

Chelmsford

Will these economic migrants fight in the British army or scuttle back?

The latter I fear.. some good comes out of every war..

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By *idower67400Man
2 days ago

norwich


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

"

Well said.

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By *ocbigMan
2 days ago

Birmingham


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

Well said."

Oh come on…Donald said that America invented all that stuff, and he wouldn’t mislead would he?

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By *evanianMan
2 days ago

Flintshire


"Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

And its wonderful ethnic history.

Indeed, Britain has contributed hugely to the world:- Steam power, Railways, Shipbuilding, Engineering, Telegraph, Telephone, Light Bulb, Penicillin, Jet Engine, Hovercraft, World Wide Web, Stethoscope, ATM, Vaccination, Anaesthesia, DNA Structure, Heart Transplant, IVF, Stem Cell Research, Cancer Treatments, Antibiotics, Botox, Malaria Vaccine, Ebola Vaccine, Football, Rugby, Cricket, Tennis, Golf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dickens, Brontë sisters, Hardy, Wilde, Orwell, Christie, Tolkien, to name but a few, the list goes on.... We can truly be a proud nation!

Long may it be so! 🇬🇧

Well said."

Thanks!

The mighty Lion of this great Kingdom shall roar loud and proud forevermore, as it hath ever done. Rule Britannia! 🇬🇧

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