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"Hear today that the threshold to pay inheritance tax on farms has been raised from 1 million to 2.5 million. This is all very well but what about all the wasted lives though suicide and all the unnecessary fees paid to fat cats for tax advice who were only too keen to take advantage. Too late, people in the countryside will never trust Labour again, and I cant wait to see them dismantled bit by bit starting at May elections. 10 U turns in total from this government, dont think they have a clue in anything. " Is there much evidence anyone killed themselves over the tax their family might pay if they died? | |||
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"Hear today that the threshold to pay inheritance tax on farms has been raised from 1 million to 2.5 million. This is all very well but what about all the wasted lives though suicide and all the unnecessary fees paid to fat cats for tax advice who were only too keen to take advantage. Too late, people in the countryside will never trust Labour again, and I cant wait to see them dismantled bit by bit starting at May elections. 10 U turns in total from this government, dont think they have a clue inanything. Is there much evidence anyone killed themselves over the tax their family might pay if they died?" Yeah, if anything they'd become immortal instead to avoid the tax, rather than speed up the process. | |||
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"Hear today that the threshold to pay inheritance tax on farms has been raised from 1 million to 2.5 million. This is all very well but what about all the wasted lives though suicide and all the unnecessary fees paid to fat cats for tax advice who were only too keen to take advantage. Too late, people in the countryside will never trust Labour again, and I cant wait to see them dismantled bit by bit starting at May elections. 10 U turns in total from this government, dont think they have a clue in anything. Is there much evidence anyone killed themselves over the tax their family might pay if they died?" If you care to browse the net you will certainly find sad and tragic evidence of suicides directly linked to Inheritance Tax, concerns, one recent example was the case of Phillip Charlesworth a Yorkshire farmer who took his life as a direct result of stress and trauma that H.M. Coroner linked directly to his concerns about Inheritance Tax that could force his family to sell their farm. There have been other similar cases where farmers have also taken their lives attributed to concerns over inheritance tax. Other farmers have also expressed concerns about the impact of inheritance tax on their mental health and the future of their farms. The Royal Agricultural Benevolent Institution has reported that a third of farmers may be depressed and half may be suffering from anxiety, with some attributing this to inheritance tax concerns. | |||
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"Are some of these comments for real. Farmers are made out as rich for size of machines they have which 90%are leased at a very high cost due to the price of them and they are getting very little from crops they produce as country more interested in importing food stuffs from elsewhere which is costing billions. Starmer is a w⚓er" A leased item is not counted as part of an estate when inheritance tax is calculated. | |||
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"A step in the right direction. " The real step in the right direction will be when Starmer makes his final exit of number 10, never to return!! | |||
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"Are some of these comments for real. Farmers are made out as rich for size of machines they have which 90%are leased at a very high cost due to the price of them and they are getting very little from crops they produce as country more interested in importing food stuffs from elsewhere which is costing billions. Starmer is a w⚓er A leased item is not counted as part of an estate when inheritance tax is calculated. " no I is not but that's what so many people believe that fears are so well off dye to machinery they are running. And don't know half of what goes on | |||
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"Farmers have NEVER voted Labour. Nobody in rural areas ever votes Labour. Yet the phalicy will persist that Labour are doing this to not lose votes. They can't win, no matter what they do." ".....They can't win, no matter what they do." Perhaps it's because of their lack of progressive direction, constant U-turns, and apparent incapability to govern effectively that the electorate have lost confidence in them? | |||
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"So it's 5 million without any inheritance tax for married couples, with more tax relief above that. I guess the price of farm land is about to keep increasing as uninterested people buy it purely as a tax dodge." This is exactly the point. Investors in farm land with no interest in farming just hiding there money from inheritance tax. Inflated values of farm land as a result. The farming industry is a very complicated tax issue with these Investors. | |||
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"Farmers have NEVER voted Labour. Nobody in rural areas ever votes Labour. Yet the phalicy will persist that Labour are doing this to not lose votes. They can't win, no matter what they do. ".....They can't win, no matter what they do." Perhaps it's because of their lack of progressive direction, constant U-turns, and apparent incapability to govern effectively that the electorate have lost confidence in them? " Exactly. Dreadful government. Filled with liars, hypocrites and economically illiterate morons. | |||
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"Farmers have NEVER voted Labour. Nobody in rural areas ever votes Labour. Yet the phalicy will persist that Labour are doing this to not lose votes. They can't win, no matter what they do. ".....They can't win, no matter what they do." Perhaps it's because of their lack of progressive direction, constant U-turns, and apparent incapability to govern effectively that the electorate have lost confidence in them? Exactly. Dreadful government. Filled with liars, hypocrites and economically illiterate morons. "  | |||
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"So it's 5 million without any inheritance tax for married couples, with more tax relief above that. I guess the price of farm land is about to keep increasing as uninterested people buy it purely as a tax dodge. This is exactly the point. Investors in farm land with no interest in farming just hiding there money from inheritance tax. Inflated values of farm land as a result. The farming industry is a very complicated tax issue with these Investors." I fully support what you're saying my son inlaw farm's 1000 acres in Northamptonshire bought 2 years ago bye a sports promoter for £16M, estimated value now is £17.5M, the owner doesn't want anything to do with the farm other than take a percentage cut of the crops profits. He's not a farmer just an investor. | |||
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"Farmers have NEVER voted Labour. Nobody in rural areas ever votes Labour. Yet the phalicy will persist that Labour are doing this to not lose votes. They can't win, no matter what they do. ".....They can't win, no matter what they do." Perhaps it's because of their lack of progressive direction, constant U-turns, and apparent incapability to govern effectively that the electorate have lost confidence in them? Exactly. Dreadful government. Filled with liars, hypocrites and economically illiterate morons. "What we need is Jeremy Clarkson and James Dyson in charge! Jeremy is on record as saying that he’s in farming because of the tax avoidance wins. Dyson is more circumspect but it must be easy running a farm from Singapore. | |||
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"Bring on the 12th of January! The day parliament finally addresses the early general election " Which will be rejected. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas, nor do chickens vote fot KFC. What would be the point of a general election at the moment? If polls are anything to go by it would produce a very diverse hung parliament and an unworkable, cobbled-together coalition government. Even worse than the one we have now. | |||
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"Why would someone with a 180 seat majority go for an early general election!?! I think you’ll have to wait until 2029 to beetle off to the polls. Some Reform councillors elected last May didn’t realise that there would be meetings during the day and resigned before they’d even been sworn in because they weren’t prepared to ask their boss for time off for public duties, or lose the cash if they were self employed. The Tories still can’t quite believe that they were humiliated by Johnson and Truss. In May Reform, the LibDems, SNP and Plaid will do well. I can’t see it bringing down the government though. " Unfortunately Labour does not get a say in what is or isn’t addressed in parliament! You’re obviously not aware but 3.5 million voters signed a petition calling for an early general election! Any petition with 100000 signatures has to be addressed by parliament! Parliament will be addressing the petition on the 12th of January 2026 The fact that the amount of signatures on the petition is so great labour will be left with little option but to dismiss starmar! And replace him at bare minimum! Worst case is (which I suspect maybe the outcome!) the amount of votes against labour will call for a general election! | |||
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"It would be interesting to see how much income a typical million pound farm brings in and a 2.5 million pound farm, and then I'd have an opinion " £2.5 million hill farm typical income below minimum wage after costs | |||
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"Why would someone with a 180 seat majority go for an early general election!?! I think you’ll have to wait until 2029 to beetle off to the polls. Some Reform councillors elected last May didn’t realise that there would be meetings during the day and resigned before they’d even been sworn in because they weren’t prepared to ask their boss for time off for public duties, or lose the cash if they were self employed. The Tories still can’t quite believe that they were humiliated by Johnson and Truss. In May Reform, the LibDems, SNP and Plaid will do well. I can’t see it bringing down the government though. Unfortunately Labour does not get a say in what is or isn’t addressed in parliament! You’re obviously not aware but 3.5 million voters signed a petition calling for an early general election! Any petition with 100000 signatures has to be addressed by parliament! Parliament will be addressing the petition on the 12th of January 2026 The fact that the amount of signatures on the petition is so great labour will be left with little option but to dismiss starmar! And replace him at bare minimum! Worst case is (which I suspect maybe the outcome!) the amount of votes against labour will call for a general election! " A G.E. would be the best outcome. There simply isn't anyone of the suitable calibre for the office of PM in the Labour Party. That's the very reason for the current situation. Like him or loathe him, Starmer may be a good constituency MP, but he simply cannot carry the responsibility of high office, and there doesn't appear to be any suitable candidates in his party. | |||
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"Whilst many may not feel the Starmer Governemnt isn’t up to handling the wounded economy the Tories pretended to manage, what alternative is there? Please don’t suggest Reform as they struggle with parish council budgets and all policy seems to be about flags. The UK needs talent not changes of governmental underwear" It's not merely a personal opinion, it's a proven fact with Starmer's blatant, bungling incompetence. As regards alternatives, let's see which way the electorate takes us. We all have our own political preferences, so let the democratic consensus be the deciding factor. | |||
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"It would be interesting to see how much income a typical million pound farm brings in and a 2.5 million pound farm, and then I'd have an opinion £2.5 million hill farm typical income below minimum wage after costs" I know hill farms are borderline prospects, but just for the sake of discussion, how about good arable? Quick comparison, £2.5 M might get you 160 acres (~65 ha) according to my fag packet. That, in 2024, would have netted an average-performing farm a net margin of something like £15K, and an efficient one maybe £27K. (based on Strutt and Parker 2024 predictions.) I'd say if a farmer can make a capital gain on that, he's got a bloody good accountant. | |||
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"Why would someone with a 180 seat majority go for an early general election!?! I think you’ll have to wait until 2029 to beetle off to the polls. Some Reform councillors elected last May didn’t realise that there would be meetings during the day and resigned before they’d even been sworn in because they weren’t prepared to ask their boss for time off for public duties, or lose the cash if they were self employed. The Tories still can’t quite believe that they were humiliated by Johnson and Truss. In May Reform, the LibDems, SNP and Plaid will do well. I can’t see it bringing down the government though. Unfortunately Labour does not get a say in what is or isn’t addressed in parliament! You’re obviously not aware but 3.5 million voters signed a petition calling for an early general election! Any petition with 100000 signatures has to be addressed by parliament! Parliament will be addressing the petition on the 12th of January 2026 The fact that the amount of signatures on the petition is so great labour will be left with little option but to dismiss starmar! And replace him at bare minimum! Worst case is (which I suspect maybe the outcome!) the amount of votes against labour will call for a general election! " Only the PM decides on an early GE unless he or she loses a vote of no confidence. In a GE a lot of Labour MPs would lose their seats so why would they vote against Starmer in a confidence vote? They’re on c. £90k for the next three and a half years. Turkeys! Christmas! | |||
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