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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

The fox hunters on horseback are gathering to follow trails. I think full on fox hunts are banned so the hounds chase a trail of fox scent. Hunt sacateurs will follow.

Police may follow.

Should the sacateurs be banned.?

Or time to Stop the Hunts?

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By *dstefiMan
3 weeks ago

Solihull

Yes, ban the secateurs. All that pruning should be illegal. Stop the pruners!

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By *ick ZuckerMan
3 weeks ago

sheffield

The secateurs aren’t as sharp as they once were.they just don’t cut it anymore

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By *espectdueMan
3 weeks ago

Stratford-Upon-Avon

Hunting should be pruned back

The problem seems to be that the hounds follow the trail until they get the scent of a real fox and will then chase and kill that.

Seems rather barbaric in modern times.

Stop the hunts

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By *thleticSensualMan
3 weeks ago

essex

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By *thleticSensualMan
3 weeks ago

essex

Killing for pleasure is bad

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By (user no longer on site)
3 weeks ago

Instead of being sly, perhaps they should just nip it in the bud . . . .

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By *ucksitupMan
3 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

Spelling errors are a regular feature in here but it’s hard to see where that one came from 🤣🤣🤣

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"The fox hunters on horseback are gathering to follow trails. I think full on fox hunts are banned so the hounds chase a trail of fox scent. Hunt sacateurs will follow.

Police may follow.

Should the sacateurs be banned.?

Or time to Stop the Hunts?

"

Saboteurs

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown

Since foxes also kill for pleasure I can't dredge up too much sympathy for them ...real foxhunting with hounds is banned anyway , so there's probably far more taken with guns .

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By *ick ZuckerMan
3 weeks ago

sheffield


"Since foxes also kill for pleasure I can't dredge up too much sympathy for them ...real foxhunting with hounds is banned anyway , so there's probably far more taken with guns . "

Not sure it’s proven that foxes take pleasure in killing. They might take out a barn full of chickens but it could be in panic with all the flapping and squawking around them

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"Since foxes also kill for pleasure I can't dredge up too much sympathy for them ...real foxhunting with hounds is banned anyway , so there's probably far more taken with guns .

Not sure it’s proven that foxes take pleasure in killing. They might take out a barn full of chickens but it could be in panic with all the flapping and squawking around them "

...they're just another cat...

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By *thleticSensualMan
3 weeks ago

essex

Im amazed by flat earth believers.

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By *nthebuffMan
3 weeks ago

Liskeard


"The fox hunters on horseback are gathering to follow trails. I think full on fox hunts are banned so the hounds chase a trail of fox scent. Hunt sacateurs will follow.

Police may follow.

Should the sacateurs be banned.?

Or time to Stop the Hunts?

"

It's long past time that all the hunts were banned. Still too many "trail hunts" resulting in chasing and/or killing of wildlife and in a few cases (not that it makes it any less horrific) terrorising people out walking dogs being attacked by hounds.

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By *elfryMan
3 weeks ago

Rossendale

Most of the hunts don't set a trail. That is just a smokescreen. If the did, why does the trail lead over main roads, railways and private land.

A message has recently gone out to the hunts to stop/ hide the actions of the terrier men, who are not needed on a trail hunt.

It is time to stop this barbaric activity. The hounds are also treated really badly and are often shot when they have outlived their usefulness.

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By *hades Of GreyMan
3 weeks ago

North Leeds area


"

...they're just another cat..."

Actually a type of dog

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By *antsMeetsMan
3 weeks ago

uxbridge

Its a tradition and shouldn't be banned but adapted so the dogs wear muzzles, so they get the chase but don't kill the fox.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

There's not really any evidence that a trail hunt has been used as a cover for a fox hunt. Trail hunting and fox hunting are not the same thing, but gobshite sabs get orgasmic about trail hunting and always turn up. The sabs put down other scents (usually meat) to distract the hounds which causes problems for those who are controlling the hounds. Hounds will follow the scent theyre told to, and stick to it. The scent used for trail hunting is paraffin and aniseed, not meat, not fox. I know it because I have got hounds, although mine dont hunt. Foxhounds were bred to kill, that is thier instinct, but it is not always foxhounds that are used for trail hunting. The ban on trail hunting is just labours next hit to people they dont like.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Fairly indifferent to fox hunting or trail hunting. Foxes can be a menace to farmers especially ones with poultry and new born lambs. However there are more affective and humane ways of keeping the fox population under control.

Hunting is a British tradition and can be quite a spectacle. Thousand enjoy watching it as well as those participating. Always amuses me that the biggest opponents of hunting are townies who probably thing all huntsmen/women are toffs and that foxes are cute and cuddly.

If it is totally banned it will cause more unemployment in the rural areas. What will happen to the packs of foxhounds. Also foxhound kennels often pick up fallen livestock from farms rather than the farmer having to pay exorbitant fees to have the dead animals removed

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"

...they're just another cat...

Actually a type of dog "

Yes, dogs who have evolved to adapt feline behaviour, such as an ability to climb , which dogs can't, and an ability to kill for their own satisfaction..

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By *ick ZuckerMan
3 weeks ago

sheffield


"Fairly indifferent to fox hunting or trail hunting.. What will happen to the packs of foxhounds. Also foxhound kennels often pick up fallen livestock from farms rather than the farmer having to pay exorbitant fees to have the dead animals removed"

I guess they’ll be shot which they will anyway once they’ve lived out their useful life, but at least future generations won’t be bred to live a life of squalor and neglect

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Fairly indifferent to fox hunting or trail hunting.. What will happen to the packs of foxhounds. Also foxhound kennels often pick up fallen livestock from farms rather than the farmer having to pay exorbitant fees to have the dead animals removed

I guess they’ll be shot which they will anyway once they’ve lived out their useful life, but at least future generations won’t be bred to live a life of squalor and neglect "

Foxhounds dont live in squalor and neglect. They're working animals, well fed but kept lean, kept in pack kennels. They're not domesticated pets but many will be retired into a very loving home and they make awesome house dogs.

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"

I guess they’ll be shot which they will anyway once they’ve lived out their useful life, but at least future generations won’t be bred to live a life of squalor and neglect "

Foxhounds living in squalor? C'mon, don't make me laugh . There'll be few better looked after dogs out there ....

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By *YbtmMan
3 weeks ago

Nr Wem

Probably wise to leave the running of the countryside to those that live and work in that environment.

I live in a rural area and have lost several flocks of chickens to mr fox, our neighbour lost 16 lambs last season.

Its common for the most vocal of campaigners against hunting to live in towns and cities.

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By *hades Of GreyMan
3 weeks ago

North Leeds area


"

...they're just another cat...

Actually a type of dog

Yes, dogs who have evolved to adapt feline behaviour, such as an ability to climb , which dogs can't, and an ability to kill for their own satisfaction.."

You've not seen a Malinois climb a tree then? Methinks that Foxes actually kill to feed themselves would male more sense.

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)

It's a class thing more than anything else, inverted snobbery.

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By *ightbulb16Man
3 weeks ago

Glasgow

Fox hunters are disgusting, total scum. I’d be banned if I said what I’d like to see happen to them

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By *ig3Man
3 weeks ago

Maldon

Foxes are vermin to many in built up area's spreading there germs

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By *enardeMan
3 weeks ago

Barnsley

Ban fox hunting which is all trail hunting is really

Foxes are easy to control with bait and 22rifle and lamp

It’s humane

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

Fox hunting and trail hunting are different sports. The scent used isnt even the same. In many trails foxhounds are not used.

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By *enardeMan
3 weeks ago

Barnsley

It’s an excuse to kill foxes

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"It’s an excuse to kill foxes "

There's no foxes involved in trail hunting.

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By *rytonTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Chatham

Swap out the foxes this year for labour MPs

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By *has2Man
3 weeks ago

Chaddesden, Derby


"Probably wise to leave the running of the countryside to those that live and work in that environment.

I live in a rural area and have lost several flocks of chickens to mr fox, our neighbour lost 16 lambs last season.

Its common for the most vocal of campaigners against hunting to live in towns and cities.

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Hear, hear! I lost 7 chickens one evening, the fox might eat bits of a few but the rest they just kill & left.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Fairly indifferent to fox hunting or trail hunting.. What will happen to the packs of foxhounds. Also foxhound kennels often pick up fallen livestock from farms rather than the farmer having to pay exorbitant fees to have the dead animals removed

I guess they’ll be shot which they will anyway once they’ve lived out their useful life, but at least future generations won’t be bred to live a life of squalor and neglect "

Possibly some will get shot before their time. They are pack animals so don't really make good pets or live without other hounds as company.

As for living in squalor, don't make me laugh. I've actually been to hunt kennels where they are well fed, well housed and looked after but dedicated kennel maids and lads.

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By *astersteve906Man
3 weeks ago

Near Lutterworth

Stop the hunt, the pack will still chase a fox if they find one and the hunt will let the pack chase it, seen it happen near here. My grandfather banned the hunt on his farm in the 1950s, the pack chased a fox and the fox went into a badger set on the railway bank. The hunt dug the fox out and threw it over his shoulders into the pack, that's not hunting.

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By *njoysfunMan
3 weeks ago

Telford

Trail hunting done right is essentially jus a cross country course across a set route, absolutely some foxes will get caught up in that and I agree that hunts that are deliberately targeting the foxes should be penalised but for all of them to be banned I think is excessive. Saba has it down as a class war and hate anyone on a horse. If it was truly about the animals they should have a much bigger problem with pheasant shoots and they don’t go harassing those

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By *speedoMan
3 weeks ago

eastbourne

Why not. This government are hell bent on banning or destroying everything

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"

...they're just another cat...

Actually a type of dog

Yes, dogs who have evolved to adapt feline behaviour, such as an ability to climb , which dogs can't, and an ability to kill for their own satisfaction..

You've not seen a Malinois climb a tree then? Methinks that Foxes actually kill to feed themselves would male more sense."

Hmmmm, my elderly neighbour who lost all 6 hens from his coop in one night to the fox with none of the dead birds removed would probably disagree with you there ....

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

"Possibly some will get shot before their time. They are pack animals so don't really make good pets or live without other hounds as company."

A lot of effort goes into rehoming foxhounds. Most make fantastic pets and out of a pack quickly dampen the hunt instint (usually). Hundreds, of not thousands, get rehomed every year. Banning trail hunting is about labours hatred of country folk. If it were about animal welfare they'd ban rodent poison, sport shooting and sport fishing.

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading

Firstly ... When the government "suddenly" does something, you can safely assume it's meant as a distraction.

Toss the electorate a bone to chew on ... keep em preoccupied for a while.

Secondly ... If Labour really cared about animal welfare, it would ban the barbaric and cruel practice of ritualistic halal & kosher slaughter in this country. But no, Labour needs the Muslim vote, and dare not risk offending the Jewish lobby.

Sly old Starmer isn't unlike a fox himself ... and he's got a free run of the henhouse.

Not hard to follow this government's scent trail at all ... it absolutely reeks of hypocrisy and duplicity.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


""Possibly some will get shot before their time. They are pack animals so don't really make good pets or live without other hounds as company."

A lot of effort goes into rehoming foxhounds. Most make fantastic pets and out of a pack quickly dampen the hunt instint (usually). Hundreds, of not thousands, get rehomed every year. Banning trail hunting is about labours hatred of country folk. If it were about animal welfare they'd ban rodent poison, sport shooting and sport fishing."

I do know that they try hard to rehome 'retired' foxhounds but not so sure that many do. I have known people who take them on and have said they are difficult to adapt to a domestic way of life.

I agree it is Labour's hatred of country folk that causes them to try and destroy country pursuits and traditions.

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By *ammy39Man
3 weeks ago

Glenrothes

Very good point re halal and kosher slaughter. Just as bad as fox hunting(which I'm against)

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By *ock006Man
3 weeks ago

near okehampton

Shoot the posh bastards

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By *tokerY2OMan
3 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Im one of the 'country' folk...and tbh the hunters have brought this upon themselves.

Trail hunts have been used to cover up illegal fox hunting for years - if the hunters had stuck to the original ban the ban on trail hunting wouldn't be needed.

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By *lenheimMan
3 weeks ago

Woodstock

There are an awful lot of very ignorant comments on here. I would like to ask all the men that have submitted a reply, to say how many times they have actually been out hunting, to gain such knowledge and information and have such an opinion.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Very good point re halal and kosher slaughter. Just as bad as fox hunting(which I'm against)

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Exactly. Reckon halal slaughter is far crueler.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"There are an awful lot of very ignorant comments on here. I would like to ask all the men that have submitted a reply, to say how many times they have actually been out hunting, to gain such knowledge and information and have such an opinion."

Never been hunting but i have watched. Very involved in hound rehoming. Ive got 2 right now, sitting beside me on the sofa drying after giving them both a bath following a massive run in the countryside, where no foxes were involved. I know many breeders and kennel masters and many people who have rehomed hounds. Ive had hounds that didn't care much for home life, but most love to be retired and make amazing pets. They need exercise and they need to use thier noses. If trail hunting was such a problem why have no hunt leaders been prosecuted? Its a countryside industry that employs many people.

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By *xMartixxTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Cambridge


"There are an awful lot of very ignorant comments on here. I would like to ask all the men that have submitted a reply, to say how many times they have actually been out hunting, to gain such knowledge and information and have such an opinion."

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading


"Very good point re halal and kosher slaughter. Just as bad as fox hunting(which I'm against)

Exactly. Reckon halal slaughter is far crueler."

An alien imported custom - So protected/supported by the lawmakers/government.

Whereas foxhunting is an indigenous rural tradition .... So it gets stamped out.

Double standards.

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By *0yguyMan
3 weeks ago

Cumberland


"Killing for pleasure is bad"

… but trailing hounds on a scent is good exercise for the dogs and horses. I don’t see the problem as no animals are injured.

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By *mandaWhenDressedMan
3 weeks ago

around

Been a foxes fan since my first game in 1979. Obvious highlight was 2016 but now all back to our natural position.

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By *hyna HutchMan
3 weeks ago

valleys


"The fox hunters on horseback are gathering to follow trails. I think full on fox hunts are banned so the hounds chase a trail of fox scent. Hunt sacateurs will follow.

Police may follow.

Should the sacateurs be banned.?

Or time to Stop the Hunts?

Saboteurs "

Yes, we know, we're just having fun.

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"There are an awful lot of very ignorant comments on here. I would like to ask all the men that have submitted a reply, to say how many times they have actually been out hunting, to gain such knowledge and information and have such an opinion."

Brought up on a farm so used to seeing the fox hunts during the winter months. Also ran a village pub were hunts met twice a year before setting off on the hunt. Have a stepsister who is a farmer and who is grateful that the hunt will collect any fallen livestock. So know a bit about the subject.

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By *tmguylookingMan
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield


"Im amazed by flat earth believers. "

You mean it's not flat???.. when did that happen

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By *eepeter4Man
3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"Shoot the posh bastards"
we can't Shoot the bastard's, Rachel from accounts needs their money to run this lovely country

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By *astersteve906Man
3 weeks ago

Near Lutterworth


"

...they're just another cat...

Actually a type of dog

Yes, dogs who have evolved to adapt feline behaviour, such as an ability to climb , which dogs can't, and an ability to kill for their own satisfaction..

You've not seen a Malinois climb a tree then? Methinks that Foxes actually kill to feed themselves would male more sense.

Hmmmm, my elderly neighbour who lost all 6 hens from his coop in one night to the fox with none of the dead birds removed would probably disagree with you there ...."

Your elderly neighbour should have his hens locked in or spread bird flue

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading


"Shoot the posh bastardswe can't Shoot the bastard's, Rachel from accounts needs their money to run this lovely country "

I think you meant '... needs their money to ruin this once lovely country'

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham

Legalise hunting the sabs. Problem solved.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

A local hunt left my village today and to be fair. They looked amazing in their jodpurs and jackets. The women especially so. If they did get fox by accident today I wonder if the ladies get more sex tonight with all that hunters tetesterone released.. ?

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By *eepeter4Man
3 weeks ago

Bournemouth


"A local hunt left my village today and to be fair. They looked amazing in their jodpurs and jackets. The women especially so. If they did get fox by accident today I wonder if the ladies get more sex tonight with all that hunters tetesterone released.. ?"
haven't you got any beaches to defend

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"A local hunt left my village today and to be fair. They looked amazing in their jodpurs and jackets. The women especially so. If they did get fox by accident today I wonder if the ladies get more sex tonight with all that hunters tetesterone released.. ? haven't you got any beaches to defend "

I have more sympathy for the fox than these illegals.. Fleeing war torn France in search of a better benefits..

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By *tar33Man
3 weeks ago

North London (outer)


"Ban fox hunting which is all trail hunting is really

Foxes are easy to control with bait and 22rifle and lamp

It’s humane "

I'm not surprised you're against it considering your username, mon ami.

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By *ockswainMan
3 weeks ago

sometown


"Probably wise to leave the running of the countryside to those that live and work in that environment.

I live in a rural area and have lost several flocks of chickens to mr fox, our neighbour lost 16 lambs last season.

Its common for the most vocal of campaigners against hunting to live in towns and cities.

Hear, hear! I lost 7 chickens one evening, the fox might eat bits of a few but the rest they just kill & left."

So the solution is to chase them to the point of exhaustion in total fear then have another animal tear them apart while theyre still alive? And if they go underground dig them up and drag them through the pack while still alive as the dogs take lumps out of them....then throw them into the pack....to be torn apart while still alive?

If you think losing some chickens justifies this....well you need help.

Utterly barbaric and not justifiable.

Plenty of hunt footage on YT....sickening.

Oh and Ive lost chickens and live in the country

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By *essa_MTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Red Rose County

It makes you wonder why over a quarter of the way through the 21st century people still consider the hunting of wild animals with other animals on horseback wearing fancy dress is acceptable.

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

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"It makes you wonder why over a quarter of the way through the 21st century people still consider the hunting of wild animals with other animals on horseback wearing fancy dress is acceptable.

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Well, probably because our species has spent hundreds of thousands of years as hunter-gatherers.

It's in our DNA.

It's only relatively recently that we got others to do the messy stuff like killing/butchering/processing the animals for us .... and packaging it all up neatly and sold on to satisfy our natural carnivore cravings.

As for people wearing 'fancy dress' ...... As an old song says .... "Now heaven knows, anything goes"

Right?

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By *ountainMan
3 weeks ago

ipswich

And it definitely needs 50 or 60 riders and 70 dogs to take on 1 fox.

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East

Stop the Hunts!!!!!!! The cruel fuckers that enjoy watching a Fox get chased and then ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds are sick in the head 😡

Fully support the Hunt Saboteurs 👊

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"

...they're just another cat...

Actually a type of dog

Yes, dogs who have evolved to adapt feline behaviour, such as an ability to climb , which dogs can't, and an ability to kill for their own satisfaction..

You've not seen a Malinois climb a tree then? Methinks that Foxes actually kill to feed themselves would male more sense.

Hmmmm, my elderly neighbour who lost all 6 hens from his coop in one night to the fox with none of the dead birds removed would probably disagree with you there ....

Your elderly neighbour should have his hens locked in or spread bird flue"

Nah, he just restocked and got his other neighbour in to shoot the fox ...

Problem solved ..👌👍

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"Fox hunters are disgusting, total scum. I’d be banned if I said what I’d like to see happen to them"

Freedom of speech mate 😉

Oh and I agree they are Scum

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By *awihMan
3 weeks ago

Aldershot


"foxes they're just another cat..."

Foxes are K 9 as on Dog

Not feline as in Cat

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Is some of this a class war between the haves and have nots..

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By *essa_MTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Red Rose County


"It makes you wonder why over a quarter of the way through the 21st century people still consider the hunting of wild animals with other animals on horseback wearing fancy dress is acceptable.

Well, probably because our species has spent hundreds of thousands of years as hunter-gatherers.

It's in our DNA.

It's only relatively recently that we got others to do the messy stuff like killing/butchering/processing the animals for us .... and packaging it all up neatly and sold on to satisfy our natural carnivore cravings.

As for people wearing 'fancy dress' ...... As an old song says .... "Now heaven knows, anything goes"

Right?

"

Right

I was under the impression that over the last hundreds of thousands of years we had built a civilisation. I wasn’t aware that Neanderthals were still holding us back after all those millennia

I stand corrected, I don’t think

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Fox hunting with hounds is already banned. They merely follow trails and follow a scent dragged by a human

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By *ickSeekerMan
3 weeks ago

Canterbury

Barbaric, anachronistic, futile and frankly for imbeciles. Ban the hunts

(and the c*nts that partake in the 'sport') 🦊

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By *ammy39Man
3 weeks ago

Glenrothes


"Fox hunting with hounds is already banned. They merely follow trails and follow a scent dragged by a human"

And you believe that?

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading


"It makes you wonder why over a quarter of the way through the 21st century people still consider the hunting of wild animals with other animals on horseback wearing fancy dress is acceptable.

Well, probably because our species has spent hundreds of thousands of years as hunter-gatherers.

It's in our DNA.

It's only relatively recently that we got others to do the messy stuff like killing/butchering/processing the animals for us .... and packaging it all up neatly and sold on to satisfy our natural carnivore cravings.

As for people wearing 'fancy dress' ...... As an old song says .... "Now heaven knows, anything goes"

Right?

Right

I was under the impression that over the last hundreds of thousands of years we had built a civilisation. I wasn’t aware that Neanderthals were still holding us back after all those millennia

I stand corrected, I don’t think"

Well yea, 'not thinking' is probably where you are going wrong.

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By *hirtyguyMan
3 weeks ago

Coleraine

The ignorance demonstrated by most contributors is actually stunning. Fox’s kill to live but being opportunistic predators rather then mathematicians and will kill everything they can in a chicken coop, that’s nature and nothing to do with pleasure.

One man hunts the hounds with assistance of a whipper in, all other mounted followers are spectators only and MUST NOT interfere with the hounds. Why these ignorant people get so worked up about the colour of coats worn by those spectators I have to admit I fail to understand.

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By *essa_MTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Red Rose County


"It makes you wonder why over a quarter of the way through the 21st century people still consider the hunting of wild animals with other animals on horseback wearing fancy dress is acceptable.

Well, probably because our species has spent hundreds of thousands of years as hunter-gatherers.

It's in our DNA.

It's only relatively recently that we got others to do the messy stuff like killing/butchering/processing the animals for us .... and packaging it all up neatly and sold on to satisfy our natural carnivore cravings.

As for people wearing 'fancy dress' ...... As an old song says .... "Now heaven knows, anything goes"

Right?

Right

I was under the impression that over the last hundreds of thousands of years we had built a civilisation. I wasn’t aware that Neanderthals were still holding us back after all those millennia

I stand corrected, I don’t think

Well yea, 'not thinking' is probably where you are going wrong. "

I really am happy not to think like a Neanderthal.

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By *ighway expressMan
3 weeks ago

Campbeltown


"Fox’s kill to live but being opportunistic predators rather then mathematicians and will kill everything they can in a chicken coop, that’s nature and nothing to do with pleasure.

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Drivel

An "opportunistic predator " kills what it needs to eat .

A fox kills six and eats none because it enjoys it .

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham

The mass killing of people* in territorial disputes simply fades into insignificance beside it, no?

* Normally painfully and accompanied by destruction of the environment.

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By *nT on the RocksMan
3 weeks ago

Oswestry

So foxes kill in a panic. That’ll be some consolation to the chickens.

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By *iono555Man
3 weeks ago

DERBY

I agree with Count Binface that we legalise the hunting of foxhunters.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

This thread is a perfect example of, or a consequence of, the misunderstanding that trail hunting and fox hunting are the same thing. Trail hunting came about because of the 2005 ban on fox hunting. Hounds used for trail hunting have never been used for fox hunting. If trail hunting were being used as a cover for fox hunting there would have been prosecutions - but there hasn't been. Most of the horses and riders in trail hunting have never been involved in fox hunting. Hysteria is whipped up by scum sabs who are probably simply jealous and bored and enjoy nasty conflict. They do it to virtue signal on social media for claps from stupid people who fall for their bullshit lies. They are not interested in animal welfare, demonstrated by their constant endangerment of hounds, horses and riders. Any moron who assumes without evidence that trail hunting is the same as banned fox hunting really should visit country communities and discover some facts, and then give their head a wobble.

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By *iono555Man
3 weeks ago

DERBY

Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that.

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By *ucksitupMan
3 weeks ago

Shrewsbury

It’s fun to see that this topic (like many in the Forums) attracts an equal amount of bollocks from both sides of the argument.

Keep going chaps. Tally Ho!! 🦊

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that. "

But farmers dont, because fox hunting was banned 20 years ago and they know the hounds aren't being used for fox hunting and are trained to ignore scents other than the one theyre given to follow. Domesticated dogs on the other hand...

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By *iono555Man
3 weeks ago

DERBY

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By *iono555Man
3 weeks ago

DERBY


"Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that.

But farmers dont, because fox hunting was banned 20 years ago and they know the hounds aren't being used for fox hunting and are trained to ignore scents other than the one theyre given to follow. Domesticated dogs on the other hand..."

An uncle of mine, who is a farmer, has informed Hunts in the past of his right to do just that if they ever come near his land.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that.

But farmers dont, because fox hunting was banned 20 years ago and they know the hounds aren't being used for fox hunting and are trained to ignore scents other than the one theyre given to follow. Domesticated dogs on the other hand...

An uncle of mine, who is a farmer, has informed Hunts in the past of his right to do just that if they ever come near his land. "

I'm sure all hunts are perfectly aware that like all horseriders, that they can't just go wherever they like. Hunt masters lay a trail on land they have permission to be on. Dog walkers on the other hand... Its really quite simple.

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By *ucksitupMan
3 weeks ago

Shrewsbury


"Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that. "

Funnily enough that Act has been rewritten, changed and amended many times since 1950. You may wish to check your “facts”

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

My hounds no longer hunt but will once in a while get them to follow a scent and race each other. Its a faff and hard work, but its awesome to see them work and good for them to exercise thier nose. It reminds them that I tell them what scent to follow and they dont have free will. The last thing I'd do is run the scent through anywhere there is smaller livestock as it could distract them from the scent I laid. Its not rocket science. A hound, or any scent dog, will instinctively want to kill what's at the end of the trail. Thats just nature. But if there's nothing to kill, as is the case in trail hunting, the dogs aren't doing it to kill. Usually they do it for the bucket of sweet tea at the end.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

I actually saw the aftermath of a fox attack on a hen house. Every chicken lay dead and as that evil fox trotted off into night. I swear the fox was smirking...

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By *ucksitupMan
3 weeks ago

Shrewsbury


"I actually saw the aftermath of a fox attack on a hen house. Every chicken lay dead and as that evil fox trotted off into night. I swear the fox was smirking... "

Since it was a hen house I assume the hens lay dead. Chicken is a generic term.

If it was dark and the fox was leaving, how did you see its face?

Foxes kill due to their nature rather than being evil per se.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"I actually saw the aftermath of a fox attack on a hen house. Every chicken lay dead and as that evil fox trotted off into night. I swear the fox was smirking...

Since it was a hen house I assume the hens lay dead. Chicken is a generic term.

If it was dark and the fox was leaving, how did you see its face?

Foxes kill due to their nature rather than being evil per se. "

I can honestly remember the horrific sight. We responded to noises akin to trench warfare when the artillery stops and all can be heard was the gasps and groans of the dieing. Looking in the hen house was like looking into a butcher shop window. Blood, flesh and feathers..

Then I heard a gutteral sound. The fox looked as proud as Punch as I lit up the fox's face with my torch. He watched a mere ten metres away. He had blood on his snout and the odd stray feather. He actually looked pleased with his nights work. His mouth curled at the edges like a smirk as if laughing. He drifted into the shadows, his barks resembling guffaws. Do not interfere with nature and the ways of country folk. A fox is is a cunning evil bugger for sure and in some ways, the way he harmed those innocent chickens is no different to the brave hounds who in turn will dispatch the evil Mr Fox

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By *ountainMan
3 weeks ago

ipswich


"I actually saw the aftermath of a fox attack on a hen house. Every chicken lay dead and as that evil fox trotted off into night. I swear the fox was smirking...

Since it was a hen house I assume the hens lay dead. Chicken is a generic term.

If it was dark and the fox was leaving, how did you see its face?

Foxes kill due to their nature rather than being evil per se.

I can honestly remember the horrific sight. We responded to noises akin to trench warfare when the artillery stops and all can be heard was the gasps and groans of the dieing. Looking in the hen house was like looking into a butcher shop window. Blood, flesh and feathers..

Then I heard a gutteral sound. The fox looked as proud as Punch as I lit up the fox's face with my torch. He watched a mere ten metres away. He had blood on his snout and the odd stray feather. He actually looked pleased with his nights work. His mouth curled at the edges like a smirk as if laughing. He drifted into the shadows, his barks resembling guffaws. Do not interfere with nature and the ways of country folk. A fox is is a cunning evil bugger for sure and in some ways, the way he harmed those innocent chickens is no different to the brave hounds who in turn will dispatch the evil Mr Fox"

Well that's the pecking order for you

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"Is some of this a class war between the haves and have nots.. "

Allegedly. People from all walks of life go foxhunting or enjoy watching it. I believe there were miners hunts in some coal mining areas. People need an interest from the daily grind whether you approve or not. Seem to remember many years ago a Labour MP was master of the fox hunt

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"Is some of this a class war between the haves and have nots..

Allegedly. People from all walks of life go foxhunting or enjoy watching it. I believe there were miners hunts in some coal mining areas. People need an interest from the daily grind whether you approve or not. Seem to remember many years ago a Labour MP was master of the fox hunt"

Agree. Sheer (middle-) class envy, and perhaps a town vs country thing. Maybe helps to remember the Yorkshire Terrier was bred by miners for the purpose of tearing captive rats to pieces.

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By *iono555Man
3 weeks ago

DERBY


"Funnily enough if you own livestock you have the legal right to shoot foxhunting hounds that come onto your property (Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1950). Yet the sadistic, bloodthirsty, inbred psychopaths who propagate the myth that it's for pest control never mention that.

Funnily enough that Act has been rewritten, changed and amended many times since 1950. You may wish to check your “facts”

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I have and... Yes, the most recent legislation dates from 1981 & 2006 & still gives livestock farmers a right to shoot dogs on their land IF they can reasonably show their livestock were affected or under threat of attack.

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By *aringtogo00TV/TS
3 weeks ago

glasgow

A man with a rifle will kill more foxes in one night than a traditional hunt will kill in 10 years or more .

Hunts a more traditional than anything else there kill rate was very small, it was more of a gathering of folk from all sorts of backgrounds who enjoyed a gallop .

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"...the most recent legislation dates from 1981 & 2006 & still gives livestock farmers a right to shoot dogs on their land IF they can reasonably show their livestock were affected or under threat of attack. "

Most of the sheep deaths due to dogs are caused by individuals, not hunts. Hunts these days need to maintain good relations with local farmers, but twat-with-big-dog doesn't give a fuck....

https://nationalsheep.org.uk/assets/documents/Results-Of-The-February-2023-Sheep-Worrying-By-Dogs-Survey-Here.pdf?v=1714142572

Note that 36% of twats-with-big-dogs are abusive when asked to keep their dogs on a lead....

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By *hyna HutchMan
3 weeks ago

valleys

I think the red coats just like riding through towns on high horses to show off, literally looking down on people.

We are considerably richer than you.😌

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"I think the red coats just like riding through towns on high horses to show off, literally looking down on people.

..."

Ah. Monster SUV Syndrome.

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By *lowSubMan
3 weeks ago

Northampton

Men in Hunting Pink and Jods with blood on their hands plus a pack of hyped up hounds..... God this sounds like heaven on earth..... Woof🐕🦊😜Howl...

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading


"Men in Hunting Pink and Jods with blood on their hands plus a pack of hyped up hounds..... God this sounds like heaven on earth..... Woof🐕🦊😜Howl..."

Then there's the magnificent stallions... Steam bursting forth from flared nostrils, flanks gleaming with sweat ... effortlessly casting the howling scabby-sabbies aside at full gallop.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

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And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

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By *lowSubMan
3 weeks ago

Northampton


"Men in Hunting Pink and Jods with blood on their hands plus a pack of hyped up hounds..... God this sounds like heaven on earth..... Woof🐕🦊😜Howl...

Then there's the magnificent stallions... Steam bursting forth from flared nostrils, flanks gleaming with sweat ... effortlessly casting the howling scabby-sabbies aside at full gallop.

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I can think of better things to do with stallions...🐎😮🐎

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins "

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

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By *eepeter4Man
3 weeks ago

Bournemouth

Tally Ho

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money "

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville

Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment "

The fox did that to the chickens..

Truly evil...what comes around hoes around. Is there such thing as an innocent chicken ? Yes. An innocent fox? NO WAY

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment

The fox did that to the chickens..

Truly evil...what comes around hoes around. Is there such thing as an innocent chicken ? Yes. An innocent fox? NO WAY"

Merry Christmas 😁

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

"

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment

The fox did that to the chickens..

Truly evil...what comes around hoes around. Is there such thing as an innocent chicken ? Yes. An innocent fox? NO WAY"

A Fox has to kill for its food, same as humans. So are you implieing that a fox is guilty but we humans are innocent, from carrying out the same practice?

We like any other preditor will kill more than we require for one day. We freeze the rest, the fox hopes it can come back, later and retrieve it's food stash at a later date. That is why they leave the rest of the kill.

The only animal that I know that has a blood lust and a desire to cause pain, are human beings.

Fox hunting is barbaric.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment

The fox did that to the chickens..

Truly evil...what comes around hoes around. Is there such thing as an innocent chicken ? Yes. An innocent fox? NO WAY

A Fox has to kill for its food, same as humans. So are you implieing that a fox is guilty but we humans are innocent, from carrying out the same practice?

We like any other preditor will kill more than we require for one day. We freeze the rest, the fox hopes it can come back, later and retrieve it's food stash at a later date. That is why they leave the rest of the kill.

The only animal that I know that has a blood lust and a desire to cause pain, are human beings.

Fox hunting is barbaric."

Breaking News. Fox hunting with.dogs is illegal. They trail hunt

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes. "

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, it is because there is believed to be evidence to prove fox hunting is still going on.

Fox hunting is barbaric.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes.

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, it is because there is believed to be evidence to prove fox hunting is still going on.

Fox hunting is barbaric."

There is no evidence of that and there has been no prosecutions because it simply does not happen. Its simply yet another Labour distraction attack on the countryside life. Thousands of jobs will go. Occasionally a pack will divert to a fox scent, or a deer, or a badger, or a hare, but its rare. These are laser focused and trained hounds who do as they are told and follow the trail as its been set. Would you like to ban cars too, seeing as they kill thousands of foxes, and people, every year? Would you like to ban domestic dogs, seeing as they kill countless sheep and lambs, and some people, every year?

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes.

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, it is because there is believed to be evidence to prove fox hunting is still going on.

Fox hunting is barbaric.

There is no evidence of that and there has been no prosecutions because it simply does not happen. Its simply yet another Labour distraction attack on the countryside life. Thousands of jobs will go. Occasionally a pack will divert to a fox scent, or a deer, or a badger, or a hare, but its rare. These are laser focused and trained hounds who do as they are told and follow the trail as its been set. Would you like to ban cars too, seeing as they kill thousands of foxes, and people, every year? Would you like to ban domestic dogs, seeing as they kill countless sheep and lambs, and some people, every year? "

Then answer the question why is it a government proposal?

Why are there packs of dogs, if there is no fox hunting?

And there is contradictory evidence on this thread implying that fox hunting does go on.

Just answer these 3 simple questions.

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"These sab types are the ones who oppose, whatever the cause, hunt one day, Palasticene the next, Parliament Square in masks, throwing bottles at police horses and usually riding a pushbike through a red light. No tolerant society should suffer these fools

.

And no fox should be ripped to bits by a pack of blood thirsty hounds while a bunch of posh pricks on horseback watch on with big grins

Posh pricks? This is about envy of those with money

Don’t envy anyone with money but i do hate people who enjoy watching a defenceless animal get torn and ripped to bits all for their enjoyment

The fox did that to the chickens..

Truly evil...what comes around hoes around. Is there such thing as an innocent chicken ? Yes. An innocent fox? NO WAY

A Fox has to kill for its food, same as humans. So are you implieing that a fox is guilty but we humans are innocent, from carrying out the same practice?

We like any other preditor will kill more than we require for one day. We freeze the rest, the fox hopes it can come back, later and retrieve it's food stash at a later date. That is why they leave the rest of the kill.

The only animal that I know that has a blood lust and a desire to cause pain, are human beings.

Fox hunting is barbaric."

Well said

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By *hyna HutchMan
3 weeks ago

valleys

It's going to end.

It's just a matter of time.

Maybe it'll go the way of illegal dog fighting. Hunting at night? no horn blowing and wearing black not red.

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, ...."

Because a bunch of virtue-signalling Islington townies don't want to adress the question of grooming gangs, perhaps?


"

Fox hunting is barbaric."

And I'm a barbarian*. Leave my recreations alone!

*for the purposes of this discussion.

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading

Nature is, and always has been, red in tooth and claw.

The townies just think of the countryside as somewhere for a day out, or aspire to get a 2nd-home retreat among green rolling hills & poncey gastro-pubs.

Rural Britain isn't some Instagram-friendly themepark ... and barbaric practices are far more plentiful in urban-modernity than they ever are in what remains of our countryside.

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By *antyLover66Man
3 weeks ago

Ilkeston

I think we none hunters should hunt the hunters, see how they fucking like it!

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"Nature is, and always has been, red in tooth and claw.

The townies just think of the countryside as somewhere for a day out, or aspire to get a 2nd-home retreat among green rolling hills & poncey gastro-pubs.

Rural Britain isn't some Instagram-friendly themepark ... and barbaric practices are far more plentiful in urban-modernity than they ever are in what remains of our countryside.

"

We don't always agree, but...exactly.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville


"

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, ....

Because a bunch of virtue-signalling Islington townies don't want to adress the question of grooming gangs, perhaps?

Fox hunting is barbaric.

And I'm a barbarian*. Leave my recreations alone!

*for the purposes of this discussion. "

I put forward 3 questions.

One, grooming gangs, are you refering to Foxs? If yes I did not believe foxes were capable of such crimes. Or are talking nonsense?

Question 2 the hounds, there is no answer, so I assume you have no defence of why they exist.

If you admit that your recreation is barbaric. You should seek help.

But also that is no excuse for inflicting pain on animals.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

There are packs of dogs because there is trail hunting. the dogs have never hunted to kill. They're not trained to.

There are horses and riders because there is trail hunting. they do it for the love of horses, the love of the chase and the love of countryside life.

Trail hunting is not hunting foxes. Trail hunting is not hunting any animal at all. The scent laid is usually paraffin and aniseed (not fox urine as is often reported - you ever tried collecting urine off of a fox?). It's all been said above, numerous times, if you care to read it.

If you don't know what trail hunting is, do some research, instead of repeating nonsense about fox hunting ad nauseam, because trail hunting and fox hunting are not the same thing, yet are tarred with the fox hunting label by moronic virtue signalling idiots. There is no evidence, at all, that trail hunting is cover for illegal fox hunting. If it was happening, there would be prosecutions, but that has not happened. The government is virtue signalling to other virtue signallers who know very, very little about countryside life. Countryside is an easy diversion target for a hapless government because there are few people. Hunt sabs are a reckless, dangerous bunch of leftie cretins hell-bent on getting likes on social media from people who have no clue. They deliberately cause danger, conflict and violence for no other reason than they enjoy it. Fox hunting is illegal. Trail hunting is not fox hunting. Most hounds retire after 4 or 5 years and are then re-homed as domestic pets, particularly in the north of the UK.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford

"But also that is no excuse for inflicting pain on animals."

You do understand that sabs deliberately attempt to harm hounds, horses and riders, don't you? They will stop thier vehicles in roads where teh hounds and horses, at speed, need to cross. The stand in front of jumps leaving no time for the horse to pull up. They lay distract scents to confuse the hounds - with the intention the hounds will then run after a valid fox scent, catch and kill the fox, for them to film it all and then scream blue murder. Its a miracle no sab has been killed - but that might be bacause the riders are expert riders and go out of their way to avoid the violent sabs.

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By *andomguy321Man
3 weeks ago

reading


"Nature is, and always has been, red in tooth and claw.

The townies just think of the countryside as somewhere for a day out, or aspire to get a 2nd-home retreat among green rolling hills & poncey gastro-pubs.

Rural Britain isn't some Instagram-friendly themepark ... and barbaric practices are far more plentiful in urban-modernity than they ever are in what remains of our countryside.

We don't always agree, but...exactly."

Cheers

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East


"I think we none hunters should hunt the hunters, see how they fucking like it! "

Fucking rights 😁

I’ve seen the pain inflicted on a Fox by the fuckers 😡

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville

One last point.

I see riders out every day in the country enjoying themselves.

Why therefore can't former hunts go out for a ride without hounds and have a social event afterwards?

It would be the same, not cause harm and still achieve the same enjoyment to the participants.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes. "

Your language let's you down, it shows your lack of respect for humans that have other opinions.

And perhaps gives an answer as to why you seem to want to harm other animals.

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"One last point.

I see riders out every day in the country enjoying themselves.

Why therefore can't former hunts go out for a ride without hounds and have a social event afterwards?

It would be the same, not cause harm and still achieve the same enjoyment to the participants."

Trail hunting does not cause harm. It is a pursuit, a hobby, an event. It is equivalent to ParkRun or GeoCaching but for horses and hounds. People enjoy doing it, and people enjoy watching it and taking part. The whole point of it is the sport of breeding, keeping and running the hounds (which the hounds absolutely love doing) with the horses following. It is nothing to do with hunting foxes, which became illegal 20 years ago.

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By *atureTransTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Waterlooville

Mery Christmas and a happy and free of hunting new year.

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By *ountrygentsCouple (MM)
3 weeks ago

Llandudno


"There's not really any evidence that a trail hunt has been used as a cover for a fox hunt. Trail hunting and fox hunting are not the same thing, but gobshite sabs get orgasmic about trail hunting and always turn up. The sabs put down other scents (usually meat) to distract the hounds which causes problems for those who are controlling the hounds. Hounds will follow the scent theyre told to, and stick to it. The scent used for trail hunting is paraffin and aniseed, not meat, not fox. I know it because I have got hounds, although mine dont hunt. Foxhounds were bred to kill, that is thier instinct, but it is not always foxhounds that are used for trail hunting. The ban on trail hunting is just labours next hit to people they dont like. "

Here here great comment.

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"

Why is there a proposal to ban trail hunting then, ....

Because a bunch of virtue-signalling Islington townies don't want to adress the question of grooming gangs, perhaps?

Fox hunting is barbaric.

And I'm a barbarian*. Leave my recreations alone!

*for the purposes of this discussion.

I put forward 3 questions.

One, grooming gangs, are you refering to Foxs? If yes I did not believe foxes were capable of such crimes. Or are talking nonsense?

Question 2 the hounds, there is no answer, so I assume you have no defence of why they exist.

If you admit that your recreation is barbaric. You should seek help.

But also that is no excuse for inflicting pain on animals.

"

That's terribly judgemental of you. Where's Question 3, btw?

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By *erscumdumpMan
3 weeks ago

Watford


"Fox hunting is barbaric.

Why are packs of hounds still in existence, if there is no fox hunting?

What experience do you require to have knowledge of hunting with hounds, apart from riding a horse. And having someone with you to control a pack of hounds.

Trail hunting. Its quite a big thing in rural communities. If you dont know the difference you're as moronic as the sabs, who dont give a flying fuck about animal welfare. Fox hunting has been illegal for years. Trail hunting looks the same - but no foxes.

Your language let's you down, it shows your lack of respect for humans that have other opinions.

And perhaps gives an answer as to why you seem to want to harm other animals."

You don't have an other opinion though. You just have a lack of knowledge, combined with an inability to read. I actually don't care what you think about me, its none of my business. I have tried to explain to you in quite basic language how trailing does not harm other animals, and give you an idea of what trailing actually is, yet you choose ignorance, or blind stupidity. That's on you and speaks volumes about you.

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

Just putting it out there maybe controversial but anyone in support of fox hunting. I worry about chickens and other animals been slaughtered by foxes not for food just because they can

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Stop the Foxes

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By *weddolMan
3 weeks ago

Chester

Fox hunting has been illegal for the past 20 odd years.

Some hunts converted to trail hunting where the hounds follow a pre-laid scent. They pre publish their trails so they are compliant with the law and can be held accountable. They do not attract the attention of hunt sabs because they don't hunt foxes.

Other hunts say they are following a pre laid trail, because it is illegal to hunt, but do not publish any routes, and apparently these pre laid traiks often cross main roads, railway lines, go through patches of brambles that are impenetrable to adult humans, and often 'accidentally' catch foxes.

Now, these hunts attract the attention of sabs, who point out that if the trails were pre published, then they would observe the hunts sticking to the route, and would no longer sab them.

Also, if these hunts are not intentionally hunting foxes, then they wouldn't need to have terriermen with them, obviously. Yet they do.

People concerned about the welfare of chickens - get real. The vast majority of chickens are kept locked in industrial style barns/sheds and never see daylight let alone foxes. The idyllic notion of chickens ranging free within a bit of wire netting is a daydream. Even your freerange organic chickens are kept securely locked up due to bird flu laws (avian influenza regulations).

If you own any birds and give away or sell the eggs, they legally have to be housed.

Everyone owning more than 50 birds must keep them housed whether you give away or sell the eggs or not. They have to be kept do that there is zero chance of them coming into contact with wild birds or vermin, to limit the spread of disease. So legally, there is no excuse for foxes ever getting in contact with chickens.

And yes, obviously foxes will enjoy killing. They are fixes. You would do well do stop anthropomorphisising them.

Humans are capable of rational thought and can make decisions based on morals and ethics. Foxes don't. They act on instinct and opportunity. They aren't little people.

Humans are, and should be expected to act responsibly. Killing for fun should not be a rational human passtime.

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By *hyna HutchMan
3 weeks ago

valleys

What a sound post. Awesome.

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By *DEmileyRoseTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Derry, Ireland

Love to see fox hunters only different role lol, years back watching a film, plus heard from history that the Dane vikings used to capture English Saxon, now was said for spying and sabotage, anyway the king of area would have that Saxon integrated, if he didn't talk well he had a wolf pen, one guard just a slit on either arm or leg would let the dogs sorry wolfs know, especially they were not fed for a week, anyway they would lower him in and wait to see if the Saxon talk, no well open the wolf gates, it's poetic lol, actually I had two Belgian shepherds and someone from Donegal thought bring my farm to an estate, , my little girls did what is natural, owner never said anything because he shouldn't of had filthy chicken, my point is fox and dog and cat will do what nature does but man well we do it for fun, humans know right from wrong, animals don't.

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

I love shooting and ferreting ita awesome

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By *DEmileyRoseTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Derry, Ireland


"I love shooting and ferreting ita awesome "

You should be hunted lol bang bang

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By *amarinMan
3 weeks ago

St Helens


"Fox hunting has been illegal for the past 20 odd years.

Some hunts converted to trail hunting where the hounds follow a pre-laid scent. They pre publish their trails so they are compliant with the law and can be held accountable. They do not attract the attention of hunt sabs because they don't hunt foxes.

Other hunts say they are following a pre laid trail, because it is illegal to hunt, but do not publish any routes, and apparently these pre laid traiks often cross main roads, railway lines, go through patches of brambles that are impenetrable to adult humans, and often 'accidentally' catch foxes.

Now, these hunts attract the attention of sabs, who point out that if the trails were pre published, then they would observe the hunts sticking to the route, and would no longer sab them.

Also, if these hunts are not intentionally hunting foxes, then they wouldn't need to have terriermen with them, obviously. Yet they do.

People concerned about the welfare of chickens - get real. The vast majority of chickens are kept locked in industrial style barns/sheds and never see daylight let alone foxes. The idyllic notion of chickens ranging free within a bit of wire netting is a daydream. Even your freerange organic chickens are kept securely locked up due to bird flu laws (avian influenza regulations).

If you own any birds and give away or sell the eggs, they legally have to be housed.

Everyone owning more than 50 birds must keep them housed whether you give away or sell the eggs or not. They have to be kept do that there is zero chance of them coming into contact with wild birds or vermin, to limit the spread of disease. So legally, there is no excuse for foxes ever getting in contact with chickens.

And yes, obviously foxes will enjoy killing. They are fixes. You would do well do stop anthropomorphisising them.

Humans are capable of rational thought and can make decisions based on morals and ethics. Foxes don't. They act on instinct and opportunity. They aren't little people.

Humans are, and should be expected to act responsibly. Killing for fun should not be a rational human passtime.

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By *DEmileyRoseTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Derry, Ireland


"Fox hunting has been illegal for the past 20 odd years.

Some hunts converted to trail hunting where the hounds follow a pre-laid scent. They pre publish their trails so they are compliant with the law and can be held accountable. They do not attract the attention of hunt sabs because they don't hunt foxes.

Other hunts say they are following a pre laid trail, because it is illegal to hunt, but do not publish any routes, and apparently these pre laid traiks often cross main roads, railway lines, go through patches of brambles that are impenetrable to adult humans, and often 'accidentally' catch foxes.

Now, these hunts attract the attention of sabs, who point out that if the trails were pre published, then they would observe the hunts sticking to the route, and would no longer sab them.

Also, if these hunts are not intentionally hunting foxes, then they wouldn't need to have terriermen with them, obviously. Yet they do.

People concerned about the welfare of chickens - get real. The vast majority of chickens are kept locked in industrial style barns/sheds and never see daylight let alone foxes. The idyllic notion of chickens ranging free within a bit of wire netting is a daydream. Even your freerange organic chickens are kept securely locked up due to bird flu laws (avian influenza regulations).

If you own any birds and give away or sell the eggs, they legally have to be housed.

Everyone owning more than 50 birds must keep them housed whether you give away or sell the eggs or not. They have to be kept do that there is zero chance of them coming into contact with wild birds or vermin, to limit the spread of disease. So legally, there is no excuse for foxes ever getting in contact with chickens.

And yes, obviously foxes will enjoy killing. They are fixes. You would do well do stop anthropomorphisising them.

Humans are capable of rational thought and can make decisions based on morals and ethics. Foxes don't. They act on instinct and opportunity. They aren't little people.

Humans are, and should be expected to act responsibly. Killing for fun should not be a rational human passtime.

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By *iley_Starr115TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Glasgow

Fox hunting is barbaric

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Fox hunting is barbaric "

Its also illegal. Thats why we have replaced it with drag hunting..

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

Obviously not a country guy

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By *evanianMan
3 weeks ago

Sir y Fflint - Gogledd Cymru


"Fox hunting is barbaric

Its also illegal. Thats why we have replaced it with drag hunting.."

Indeed and thankfully so!

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By *op07041952Man
3 weeks ago

birmingham

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

So what about

Deer stalking

Mole catching

Ferreting

Long netting

Rat trapping

Shooting

The list is endless

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By *astDevonGuyMan
3 weeks ago

East Devon

Boxing Day Hunt here today ….but they don’t wear drag ?

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By *imonxxx200TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Thirsk

Have they got there horn

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells

Can't help but think that it is a knee-jerk reaction by the government to keep the 'green with envy' lobby on their side and to cause a distraction from the government's many woes and failures. Some Labour MPs are not happy about this proposal. Especially those who have found themselves representing rural seats after winning them by default in last years calamitous election.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

I pray that nobody is hurt during any of the hunts today. It can be very dangerous for the riders jumping hedges and not knowing where the sacateurs are or what tricks they will pull. Hope all the horses teturn safely too

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"I pray that nobody is hurt during any of the hunts today. It can be very dangerous for the riders jumping hedges and not knowing where the sacateurs are or what tricks they will pull. Hope all the horses teturn safely too"

I hope not either. Many years ago I rented a flat in a country house owned by a very nice, if rather eccentric, gentleman. He went out hunting and at that time [early 2000s] it was trail hunting rather than fox hunting. Although an experienced and lifelong horse rider in his early 60s, he was thrown from his horse whilst jumping a fence and killed.

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By *ugged NorthernerMan
3 weeks ago

North East

Let’s hope no Foxes are harmed today 🙏

Good luck to all the Sabs 👊

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By *orace555Man
3 weeks ago

cork

I quite like hunting a fox if I see them out and about and sexily dressed

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By *urryheathbearMan
3 weeks ago

Camberley

Ive talked and listened to both sides on the issue of trail hunts. As a lad born and bred in the countryside i can see some good benefits of legal trail hunts to conituning to operate for the environment and ecology.

Unfortunately its evident from listening to both sides of the argument, pro hunting and anti, that there are many fox hunts across the county that use tail hunting as a legal loophole to hunt foxes. That includes the hounds are still trained to follow and prey on foxes, and the use of fox scent whether its illegal to use or not, to train the hounds.

It's these hunts that need to be targeted and shut down. The authorities could do this now if they wished, impose huge fines, imprisonment, including the land owners who actively aid these hunts. It would also be necessary to euthanize the entire pack of hounds, as much as an example, to bring about change across all the rogue hunts, but also seeing the dogs as no different to killing other certain dangerous breeds of dog that are illegal in this country.

I think taking this approach will encourage all the other rogue fox hunts and the establishment that supports them, to change thier ways.

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By *aremanMan
3 weeks ago

Hingham


"Ive talked and listened to both sides on the issue of trail hunts. As a lad born and bred in the countryside i can see some good benefits of legal trail hunts to conituning to operate for the environment and ecology.

Unfortunately its evident from listening to both sides of the argument, pro hunting and anti, that there are many fox hunts across the county that use tail hunting as a legal loophole to hunt foxes. That includes the hounds are still trained to follow and prey on foxes, and the use of fox scent whether its illegal to use or not, to train the hounds.

It's these hunts that need to be targeted and shut down. The authorities could do this now if they wished, impose huge fines, imprisonment, including the land owners who actively aid these hunts. It would also be necessary to euthanize the entire pack of hounds, as much as an example, to bring about change across all the rogue hunts, but also seeing the dogs as no different to killing other certain dangerous breeds of dog that are illegal in this country.

I think taking this approach will encourage all the other rogue fox hunts and the establishment that supports them, to change thier ways.

"

Nice to see some constructive ideas on this. But the ideology of the Islington townie does not permit rational debate.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

I saw our local hunt leave the village today. Totally inclusive. Old, young, fine horses and nags, all united in one cause. Tradition and compromise. No fox hunted just a drag race

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By *ildwestheroMan
3 weeks ago

Llandrindod Wells


"

Nice to see some constructive ideas on this. But the ideology of the Islington townie does not permit rational debate."

About the most sensible comment yet in this debate.

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By *om_essex OP   Man
3 weeks ago

Chelmsford

These Islington Townies should never be involved in country ways despite them driving tractors, Chelsea tractors.. the type who buy a country cottage as a hiliday home and moan about the church bells...

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By *essa_MTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Red Rose County

Seems to be some people with the opinion that townsfolk should hold no opinions on “country pastimes”. Have heard justifications for fox/trail hunting as it’s in our DNA it’s heritage, we’ve always done it. We need to exercise the horses.

Can I suggest then as an alternative to hunting of what ever persuasion. People who want the spectacle of horses being exercised for sport. Take up jousting. The horses get exercised. No animals are chased and potentially ripped apart. The bonus is jousting was only done by knights and if a few of them and their supporters get knocked on their arses preferably bloodied and bruised. No one will really care. Jousting is part of our heritage so it’s a reasonable alternative

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By *erscumdumpMan
2 weeks ago

Watford

Fox hunting is cruel and has been banned for 20 years. Trail hunting does not involve killing any animals. If trail hunting has been used as smoke screen for fox hunting, there would have been prosecutions, but that's not happened. Most packs went out on boxing day, and were peddled as 'fox hunting' to the gullible newspaper readers. Again no prosecutions for killing a fox.

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By *aremanMan
2 weeks ago

Hingham

I've long had the impression that the sabs get as much of a kick out of a day out in the fresh air, with the opportunity to demonstrate their prejudices, as anyone on a trail hunt does. Without horsey people to obstruct, insult, and occasionally endanger, what will the poor sods do for entertainment then?

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By *evoncrhisMan
2 weeks ago

Torbay

Just totally ban the whole bloody cruel thing!!!

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By *erscumdumpMan
2 weeks ago

Watford


"Just totally ban the whole bloody cruel thing!!!"

Trail hunting isnt cruel, but it is the focus of attention by idiots assuming it is fox hunting because it looks similar.

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By *ndy457Man
2 weeks ago

Gosport


"Fox hunting is cruel and has been banned for 20 years. Trail hunting does not involve killing any animals. If trail hunting has been used as smoke screen for fox hunting, there would have been prosecutions, but that's not happened. Most packs went out on boxing day, and were peddled as 'fox hunting' to the gullible newspaper readers. Again no prosecutions for killing a fox. "

There have been a few prosecutions.

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By *erscumdumpMan
2 weeks ago

Watford


"Fox hunting is cruel and has been banned for 20 years. Trail hunting does not involve killing any animals. If trail hunting has been used as smoke screen for fox hunting, there would have been prosecutions, but that's not happened. Most packs went out on boxing day, and were peddled as 'fox hunting' to the gullible newspaper readers. Again no prosecutions for killing a fox.

There have been a few prosecutions. "

Reportedly less than 30 - in 20 years. There's are about 15,000 trail hunt days each year. So 1 in maybe 15,000.

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By *annyDanielleMan
2 weeks ago

Street, Somerset


"It's a class thing more than anything else, inverted snobbery."

Now that these self proclaimed guardians (the saboteurs) of the nation's 'morals' have had a taste of power one has to wonder what they will set their sights on next? Deer stalking, falconery, pheasant/duck hunting?

By rights angling should also be included in that list though somehow, as a sport frequented by the working class, i don't think it will be. Snobbery it is and a slippery slope.

It was a sad day when hunting with hounds was banned.

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By *elfordsubMan
2 weeks ago

Telford


"It was a sad day when hunting with hounds was banned. "

Not for the foxes

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By *oodpeckerMan
2 weeks ago

Falkirk

Notwithstanding the barbarity of fox hunting, some Masters of the Hounds are quite spunky

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