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"No second chance? Why do we need him here? .... ... Illogical. " Why is it illogical? Is he a British citizen? What asset is he to this country? | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out." Best post on this whole site | |||
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"Alaa Abd El-Fattah will probably end up standing as a Green Party candidate within the next year or so. " The Green Party I did have time for - I thought Caroline Lucas MP genuinely cared about Green issues - she has now left the House of Commons to be replaced by a small number of new Green MPs who are not a patch on her and as for the Leadership team of Zak Polanski, Mothin Ali & Rachel Millward well they all need put in straight jackets | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out." Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions. "Nigel-Bashing for Nigel-Bashings' sake aside for a mo,..... which of the two is seriously likely to be of interest to the UK's Counter-Terrorism programmes? | |||
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"Call me what you like I simply don't care. But if you actively support a misogynistic west hating homophobe, you are CRAZY. I would suggest that if you're not comfortable telling your wife/family/friends you have a penchant for dick, you REALLY would want him living next door to you" I expect those who think he should stay are also the ones who waves banners around saying 'Queers for Palestine' and 'Gays for Hamas'. Oh the irony | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester." Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief" No, the question was 'why does nobody take these guys on?', and I gave an example. MI5, MI6 and Counter-terrorism police have been taking these people on since before the turn of the century. | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions. "Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian But who are we to cast the first stone | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have." Again, a perfect example of the double standards of the left. It hasn’t been a month since Liebour politicians and the British Biased Corruption were calling for Farage’s head for allegedly making antisemitic remarks when he was at school. And now they are willing to forgive someone who has actively called for the death of Jews and members of the Police. Two tier Kier at his best! | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone"Has good old nigel changed his views since then? And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for. But he's white and racist, but thats ok. This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up. | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Again, a perfect example of the double standards of the left. It hasn’t been a month since Liebour politicians and the British Biased Corruption were calling for Farage’s head for allegedly making antisemitic remarks when he was at school. And now they are willing to forgive someone who has actively called for the death of Jews and members of the Police. Two tier Kier at his best! " It's not a double standard. One has accepted, apologised and corrected their behaviour. The other has denied, lied and made a mockery of it whilst refusing to have the guts to proudly wear what he is on his chest. It's always the same with right wing, simply deflect and claim "whatabout". This is equally true of the hard left so there's no rose tinted glasses seeing one side over the other | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Again, a perfect example of the double standards of the left. It hasn’t been a month since Liebour politicians and the British Biased Corruption were calling for Farage’s head for allegedly making antisemitic remarks when he was at school. And now they are willing to forgive someone who has actively called for the death of Jews and members of the Police. Two tier Kier at his best! " That individual was his classmate, not a member of the Labour Party. Why are you concerned about Farage? A sycophant of the USA? | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Again, a perfect example of the double standards of the left. It hasn’t been a month since Liebour politicians and the British Biased Corruption were calling for Farage’s head for allegedly making antisemitic remarks when he was at school. And now they are willing to forgive someone who has actively called for the death of Jews and members of the Police. Two tier Kier at his best! It wasn't Labour or the beeb, it was a journalist who made the claims 12 years ago. One of the people he was antisemitic too decided to speak out. But nige decided to refuse to speak to the beeb because he won't admit he was wrong. Just like his lying orange chum. By the way, antizionism is not the same as antisemitism. But hey ho, good old nige. " | |||
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. " That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes? | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes?" If you'd like to point out the actual inaccuracies in my sensational post ... For argument's sake, and all that jazz | |||
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes? If you'd like to point out the actual inaccuracies in my sensational post ... For argument's sake, and all that jazz" "yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues." Please point out any facts because you called our country a henhouse, an immigrant a fox, a group of immigrants foxes, claimed starmer is delighted (please enlighten us to how you saw his reaction or were present for it), made an unsubstantiated and inaccurate assessment of our security services all whilst not actually making any sort of point. I congratulate you on successfully making a salad, though most enjoy it with vegetables not words. | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief No, the question was 'why does nobody take these guys on?', and I gave an example. MI5, MI6 and Counter-terrorism police have been taking these people on since before the turn of the century." With obvious success because they are still here | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief No, the question was 'why does nobody take these guys on?', and I gave an example. MI5, MI6 and Counter-terrorism police have been taking these people on since before the turn of the century. With obvious success because they are still here" "Better to know where they are than hiding in a cave in a country that won't even try to stop them" - an actual counter terrorism officer that I personally know. Honestly, it would blow peoples minds if they even had 1/2 a clue of what the security services can do, access and track. It is truly impressive | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief No, the question was 'why does nobody take these guys on?', and I gave an example. MI5, MI6 and Counter-terrorism police have been taking these people on since before the turn of the century. With obvious success because they are still here "Better to know where they are than hiding in a cave in a country that won't even try to stop them" - an actual counter terrorism officer that I personally know. Honestly, it would blow peoples minds if they even had 1/2 a clue of what the security services can do, access and track. It is truly impressive" I’m sure you’re right but why are the hate preachers allowed to go on preaching hate? Could it be that a lot of them are sponsored by Saudis, Qataris and others? Mustn’t upset them I guess. | |||
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"The hypocrisy is amazing. It is well known that there are islamists spouting hatred, misogyny and homophobia every week in mosques around the country and on social media. Why does nobody take these guys on? Yes this guy should ideally be kicked back to Egypt (unlikely due to appeals) but there’s a whole bunch of Muslim Brotherhood people who should also be kicked out. Do you not think that MI5 and Special Branch have already infiltrated these places, with members on the inside. Only a couple of weeks ago there were two brothers jailed for planning a large-scale attack on the Jewish community in Manchester. Whether they have or have not been infiltrated is not the point. They continue to be allowed to radicalise particularly younger men in mosques and online. I’m guessing the authorities have left it too late and are too scared to act. It defies belief No, the question was 'why does nobody take these guys on?', and I gave an example. MI5, MI6 and Counter-terrorism police have been taking these people on since before the turn of the century. With obvious success because they are still here "Better to know where they are than hiding in a cave in a country that won't even try to stop them" - an actual counter terrorism officer that I personally know. Honestly, it would blow peoples minds if they even had 1/2 a clue of what the security services can do, access and track. It is truly impressive I’m sure you’re right but why are the hate preachers allowed to go on preaching hate? Could it be that a lot of them are sponsored by Saudis, Qataris and others? Mustn’t upset them I guess." Because we all have freedom of expression, whether that be a muslim extremist or stephen lennon the speech is allowed, the actions subsequently are not. There are thousands of arrests each year because of hate speech and inciting violence which are consequences of being free to say anything and they're not just white people or innocent mums, they're also the extremists | |||
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes? If you'd like to point out the actual inaccuracies in my sensational post ... For argument's sake, and all that jazz "yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues." Please point out any facts because you called our country a henhouse, an immigrant a fox, a group of immigrants foxes, claimed starmer is delighted (please enlighten us to how you saw his reaction or were present for it), made an unsubstantiated and inaccurate assessment of our security services all whilst not actually making any sort of point. I congratulate you on successfully making a salad, though most enjoy it with vegetables not words. " Starmer posted his delight on Boxing day. 'I am delighted that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in the UK and has been reunited with his loved ones, who must be feeling profound relief. I want to pay tribute to Alaa's family, and to all those who have worked and campaigned for this moment. Alla's case has been a top priority for this government since we came to office. I'm grateful to President Sisi for his decision to grant the pardon' - Keir Starmer 26/12/25 (3.7M Views) And 'Henhouse/Fox' ... Alegorical .... Most people understand a simple allegory. Get the point now  .... or are you still fumbling about in the dark?
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
changed views , do you really believe that gentlemen’s time in an Egyptian prison with isis prisoners and all manner of bad lads ,That this upstanding member of our green and pleasant land had an epiphany about killing of police personnel / Zionist if so I have a bridge in London going cheap in the Boxing Day sales I’m sure you would be interested in."And the proof that you have that he has been radicalised in prison? He was made a British citizen by Boris, both parties have campaigned for his release, yet starmer is being blamed. Hypocrisy again. Much. | |||
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes? If you'd like to point out the actual inaccuracies in my sensational post ... For argument's sake, and all that jazz "yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues." Please point out any facts because you called our country a henhouse, an immigrant a fox, a group of immigrants foxes, claimed starmer is delighted (please enlighten us to how you saw his reaction or were present for it), made an unsubstantiated and inaccurate assessment of our security services all whilst not actually making any sort of point. I congratulate you on successfully making a salad, though most enjoy it with vegetables not words. Starmer posted his delight on Boxing day. 'I am delighted that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in the UK and has been reunited with his loved ones, who must be feeling profound relief. I want to pay tribute to Alaa's family, and to all those who have worked and campaigned for this moment. Alla's case has been a top priority for this government since we came to office. I'm grateful to President Sisi for his decision to grant the pardon' - Keir Starmer 26/12/25 (3.7M Views) And 'Henhouse/Fox' ... Alegorical .... Most people understand a simple allegory. Get the point now .... or are you still fumbling about in the dark?
Boris made him a uk citizen, then the tories campaigned for his release ever since, which starmer carried on.
He celebrated the mans release after 12 years.
At the time he was unaware of the historic tweets.
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"Should his citizenship be revoked? Yes clearly, it shouldn't even be a question! " The global optics are brilliant aren't they. Hate whites, make clear incitements to violence, display anti Jewish hatred. Then pretend you have somehow seen the error in your ways to gain entry into soft touch UK. The rest of the world must think we are fucking idiots. | |||
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"No second chance? Why do we need him here? .... ... Illogical. Why is it illogical? Is he a British citizen? What asset is he to this country?" I'm intrigued by that sentence. Lots of citizens are not assets and lots are. It's just people. Do we all need to be assets? Is the extended royal family to be audited too? The core of them who bring in tourism aside I see them as a waste of reserves. Def not assets | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Again, a perfect example of the double standards of the left. It hasn’t been a month since Liebour politicians and the British Biased Corruption were calling for Farage’s head for allegedly making antisemitic remarks when he was at school. And now they are willing to forgive someone who has actively called for the death of Jews and members of the Police. Two tier Kier at his best! It's not a double standard. One has accepted, apologised and corrected their behaviour. The other has denied, lied and made a mockery of it whilst refusing to have the guts to proudly wear what he is on his chest. It's always the same with right wing, simply deflect and claim "whatabout". This is equally true of the hard left so there's no rose tinted glasses seeing one side over the other" “One has accepted, apologised and corrected their behaviour” ! Yes am sure they have? Let’s just watch this space shall we! | |||
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"yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues. That is sensationalism at its finest. I'm actually impressed by it. Do you teach classes? If you'd like to point out the actual inaccuracies in my sensational post ... For argument's sake, and all that jazz "yet another fox is being let into the henhouse ... and the already established foxes are breeding at an alarming rate. Just why is Starmer so delighted that such a potentially dangerous foreigner has made his way into Britain after years of detention in his native Egypt? The present government seems to have some very peculiar priorities and utterly bizarre attitudes when it comes to homeland security issues." Please point out any facts because you called our country a henhouse, an immigrant a fox, a group of immigrants foxes, claimed starmer is delighted (please enlighten us to how you saw his reaction or were present for it), made an unsubstantiated and inaccurate assessment of our security services all whilst not actually making any sort of point. I congratulate you on successfully making a salad, though most enjoy it with vegetables not words. Starmer posted his delight on Boxing day. 'I am delighted that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in the UK and has been reunited with his loved ones, who must be feeling profound relief. I want to pay tribute to Alaa's family, and to all those who have worked and campaigned for this moment. Alla's case has been a top priority for this government since we came to office. I'm grateful to President Sisi for his decision to grant the pardon' - Keir Starmer 26/12/25 (3.7M Views) And 'Henhouse/Fox' ... Alegorical .... Most people understand a simple allegory. Get the point now .... or are you still fumbling about in the dark?
Boris made him a uk citizen, then the tories campaigned for his release ever since, which starmer carried on.
He celebrated the mans release after 12 years.
At the time he was unaware of the historic tweets.
"Perhaps he might have looked into his history before making it a governmental priority to achieve the end result, which has delighted our uninformed PM so effusively. | |||
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"Should his citizenship be revoked? Yes clearly, it shouldn't even be a question! The global optics are brilliant aren't they. Hate whites, make clear incitements to violence, display anti Jewish hatred. Then pretend you have somehow seen the error in your ways to gain entry into soft touch UK. The rest of the world must think we are fucking idiots." That's newspaper talk. The reality is getting my Australian ex wife into the country was a fucking nightmare. 6 months of paperwork and then a spouse visa with no recourse to public funds. A year later the right to work and use of the NHS. She was a qualified lawyer with cash in the bank too. Not having this soft touch idea. It just isn't the case. Pure propaganda. | |||
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"I love these threads, helps me make private notes to avoid all the hate filled gammons" What’s a gammon? I had a gammon ham with Christmas lunch but I don’t think that’s what it means here | |||
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"I love these threads, helps me make private notes to avoid all the hate filled gammons" Inundated are you? | |||
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"What’s a gammon?" Somebody who pronounces England as a three-syllable word, thinks Farage and Tommeh are perfectly reasonable chaps, and whose (usually bald or shaven) head turns the colour of said delicious ham whenever boats are mentioned. | |||
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"Dog whistle politics at its finest. Have you heard some of things the Reform leader has said or the members of the party? It’s one statement and he’s apologised for making it, more than Reform’s leader has. " One statement? There’s a whole slew of revolting tweets | |||
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"Dog whistle politics at its finest. Have you heard some of things the Reform leader has said or the members of the party? It’s one statement and he’s apologised for making it, more than Reform’s leader has. " So are we to conclude that he's no longer delighted ... or just sorry for expressing his delight? | |||
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"No second chance? Why do we need him here? .... ... Illogical. Why is it illogical? Is he a British citizen? What asset is he to this country? I'm intrigued by that sentence. Lots of citizens are not assets and lots are. It's just people. Do we all need to be assets? Is the extended royal family to be audited too? The core of them who bring in tourism aside I see them as a waste of reserves. Def not assets" I'm even more intrigued by your comment. Since making my post, I have discovered, via the lunchtime news, that he was granted British citizenship in 2021. Perhaps the powers that be, who granted this, had not heard his vile statements. Yes a fair few people are of no asset to this country. However some were born here and could probably trace there ancestry back over a thousand years or more, so we are stuck with them. To become a British citizen whilst having been born in another country, is a privilege and not an automatic right. Hence why immigration has become a major issue and the Faragites are enjoying popularity. This person may have apologised and tried to retract the vile things he said but do we trust his sincerity? I have my doubts | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have." Yawn… | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
changed views , do you really believe that gentlemen’s time in an Egyptian prison with isis prisoners and all manner of bad lads ,That this upstanding member of our green and pleasant land had an epiphany about killing of police personnel / Zionist if so I have a bridge in London going cheap in the Boxing Day sales I’m sure you would be interested in.
And the proof that you have that he has been radicalised in prison?
He was made a British citizen by Boris, both parties have campaigned for his release, yet starmer is being blamed.
Hypocrisy again. Much."He wasn’t radicalised in prison he was uttering radical views before he went there a few years with the brotherhood and you think his ideological thinking might of done a 180 , Bridge for sale bridge for sale 😂 | |||
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"So many turkeys voting for Christmas on here. Truly scary. It's not about a historic tweet. It's about an agenda, a belief system and intent. The fear of causing offence has superceded our right to live in safety. " Well said ! | |||
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"So many turkeys voting for Christmas on here. Truly scary. It's not about a historic tweet. It's about an agenda, a belief system and intent. The fear of causing offence has superceded our right to live in safety. " Well said ! | |||
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"Should his citizenship be revoked?" Yes, and that of anybody who's ever used the language of violence with regard to another grouping. I'd happily see all extremist Islamic clerics and racist gammons dumped on an island together so they could fight it out while the rest of us actually practice British values like getting along together. I also think faith schools need to be dumped as an idea and religion to be seriously segregated into its own box and kept right out of public life. | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
changed views , do you really believe that gentlemen’s time in an Egyptian prison with isis prisoners and all manner of bad lads ,That this upstanding member of our green and pleasant land had an epiphany about killing of police personnel / Zionist if so I have a bridge in London going cheap in the Boxing Day sales I’m sure you would be interested in.
And the proof that you have that he has been radicalised in prison?
He was made a British citizen by Boris, both parties have campaigned for his release, yet starmer is being blamed.
Hypocrisy again. Much.
He wasn’t radicalised in prison he was uttering radical views before he went there a few years with the brotherhood and you think his ideological thinking might of done a 180 ,
Bridge for sale bridge for sale 😂"I was replying to someone who said that he had no doubt been sharing a cell with isis members. Try reading the whole thread. | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
changed views , do you really believe that gentlemen’s time in an Egyptian prison with isis prisoners and all manner of bad lads ,That this upstanding member of our green and pleasant land had an epiphany about killing of police personnel / Zionist if so I have a bridge in London going cheap in the Boxing Day sales I’m sure you would be interested in.
And the proof that you have that he has been radicalised in prison?
He was made a British citizen by Boris, both parties have campaigned for his release, yet starmer is being blamed.
Hypocrisy again. Much.
He wasn’t radicalised in prison he was uttering radical views before he went there a few years with the brotherhood and you think his ideological thinking might of done a 180 ,
Bridge for sale bridge for sale 😂
I was replying to someone who said that he had no doubt been sharing a cell with isis members.
Try reading the whole thread."Try yourself it’s my post you answered I implied that this guy has spent years banged up with isis jihadis , can’t think the Egyptian prisons supply single cells so I shouldn’t wonder he spent time with them if not cooper wants to bustle over there and find out how they manage over crowding cause she’s doing he haw about it here | |||
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"Hilarious to see farage wanting him to be deported for old tweets, some of which the guy has undeservedly apologised. While refusing to acknowledge the harm done by his own historic antisemitic actions.
Undeservedly indeed 😂 after watching the mouth frothing that accompanied good old Nigel’s supposed utterances as a teen , not may I point out a grown man as was the case with this Egyptian
But who are we to cast the first stone
Has good old nigel changed his views since then?
And to the other reply, having helped start the Stockport riots he does have things to answer for.
But he's white and racist, but thats ok.
This Egyptian probably needs reporting or locking up.
changed views , do you really believe that gentlemen’s time in an Egyptian prison with isis prisoners and all manner of bad lads ,That this upstanding member of our green and pleasant land had an epiphany about killing of police personnel / Zionist if so I have a bridge in London going cheap in the Boxing Day sales I’m sure you would be interested in.
And the proof that you have that he has been radicalised in prison?
He was made a British citizen by Boris, both parties have campaigned for his release, yet starmer is being blamed.
Hypocrisy again. Much.
He wasn’t radicalised in prison he was uttering radical views before he went there a few years with the brotherhood and you think his ideological thinking might of done a 180 ,
Bridge for sale bridge for sale 😂
I was replying to someone who said that he had no doubt been sharing a cell with isis members.
Try reading the whole thread.
Try yourself it’s my post you answered I implied that this guy has spent years banged up with isis jihadis , can’t think the Egyptian prisons supply single cells so I shouldn’t wonder he spent time with them if not cooper wants to bustle over there and find out how they manage over crowding cause she’s doing he haw about it here"Exactly, you wonder. So as I said, what proof do you have? None. Its your opinion. And mine is mine. | |||
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"No second chance? Why do we need him here? .... ... Illogical. Why is it illogical? Is he a British citizen? What asset is he to this country? I'm intrigued by that sentence. Lots of citizens are not assets and lots are. It's just people. Do we all need to be assets? Is the extended royal family to be audited too? The core of them who bring in tourism aside I see them as a waste of reserves. Def not assets I'm even more intrigued by your comment. Since making my post, I have discovered, via the lunchtime news, that he was granted British citizenship in 2021. Perhaps the powers that be, who granted this, had not heard his vile statements. Yes a fair few people are of no asset to this country. However some were born here and could probably trace there ancestry back over a thousand years or more, so we are stuck with them. To become a British citizen whilst having been born in another country, is a privilege and not an automatic right. Hence why immigration has become a major issue and the Faragites are enjoying popularity. This person may have apologised and tried to retract the vile things he said but do we trust his sincerity? I have my doubts" To be fair I didn't mention I haven't a clue about the case this thread is based on. I don't care either. I'm intrigued by the idea of assets to the country and where we draw the line on who is and who isn't an asset. Also the royal family aren't British. I've always been ok with that. | |||
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"Should his citizenship be revoked?" He has legal citizenship, this can't be revoked just because he made some vile comments | |||
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"Typical The far left defends people who cause divide and hate. You can't make this up. Thank God time is running out day by day for the loony leftwing traitors.. Labour won't be in power for decades after the next election." Who is this far left you speak of? You don't think farage and Tommy ten names don't seek to decide people? | |||
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"Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has launched a review into what she calls "serious information failures" in the case of British-Egyptian activist Alaa Abd El Fattah. In a letter to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Cooper said she, Sir Keir Starmer and Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy "were all unaware" of Mr Abd El Fattah's historical tweets, which they consider to be "abhorrent". *Isn't it good how we have a government who, instead of lieing and trying to cover things up, actually act quickly, let us know how something happened, and actually seem to have a plan. Oh thank goodness .... Another review! They haven't let us know' anything ... Others pointed it out to them ... and they had to do a very fast U-Turn (yet again) .... Just another disastrous piss-up in the Starmer Government Brewery. It makes me laugh when people use the bale 'U-turn' when a government respond quickly to an event, own it, and tell us what they intend to do. Would you prefer the government to ignore the matter, and sweep it under the carpet? When it comes to matters of National Security - I'd prefer the government to get things right in the first place ... Instead of fucking up, and then when the fuck up is pointed out to them .... launching a review into why they fucked it up. wait for the we inherited this problem , which of two tier keir’s minions will be first to use that flogged to death old chestnut " Well, there is the fact he was made a citizen by Boris and the tories campaigned for his release, so thats at least 3 tory pm's. But its starmers fault? How do you work that out? | |||
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"Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has launched a review into what she calls "serious information failures" in the case of British-Egyptian activist Alaa Abd El Fattah. In a letter to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Cooper said she, Sir Keir Starmer and Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy "were all unaware" of Mr Abd El Fattah's historical tweets, which they consider to be "abhorrent". *Isn't it good how we have a government who, instead of lieing and trying to cover things up, actually act quickly, let us know how something happened, and actually seem to have a plan. Oh thank goodness .... Another review! They haven't let us know' anything ... Others pointed it out to them ... and they had to do a very fast U-Turn (yet again) .... Just another disastrous piss-up in the Starmer Government Brewery. It makes me laugh when people use the bale 'U-turn' when a government respond quickly to an event, own it, and tell us what they intend to do. Would you prefer the government to ignore the matter, and sweep it under the carpet? When it comes to matters of National Security - I'd prefer the government to get things right in the first place ... Instead of fucking up, and then when the fuck up is pointed out to them .... launching a review into why they fucked it up. wait for the we inherited this problem , which of two tier keir’s minions will be first to use that flogged to death old chestnut Well, there is the fact he was made a citizen by Boris and the tories campaigned for his release, so thats at least 3 tory pm's. But its starmers fault? How do you work that out? The due diligence to allow his entry into Britain is the present governments duty , to say they didn’t know his past is like saying the 9/11 guys only took lessons in landing. Previous Tory and Labour ministers lobbied for his release that happened three month ago that should of been job done " You understand that the vetting of anyone coming here doesn't necessarily include posts on social media right? The due diligence is based around criminal history, medical history, references, education etc. | |||
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"Yes because although there is freedom of expression and you can say anything you want to, there is no freedom of or from the consequences of what you say whether or not you're white british person or otherwise. There was no complaints when it was muslim extremists, only when white racists/cunts started getting arrested. | |||
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"Typical The far left defends people who cause divide and hate. You can't make this up. Thank God time is running out day by day for the loony leftwing traitors.. Labour won't be in power for decades after the next election." Traitors! Isn’t that hyperbole? And who else are you going to vote for? That charming Mr Farage and his one man band? Mrs Badenoch who can have a fight in an empty room? | |||
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"Get rid off him " Ship him off to the Falklands. He can spend his days ranting at all the white sheep there. | |||
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Yes because although there is freedom of expression and you can say anything you want to, there is no freedom of or from the consequences of what you say whether or not you're white british person or otherwise. There was no complaints when it was muslim extremists, only when white racists/cunts started getting arrested. "But why the leniency towards the scumbag Egyptian Alaa Abd El-Fattah when it comes to the vetting process? And do you think he should be arrested, charged, and tried for his highly inflammatory online posts? | |||
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Yes because although there is freedom of expression and you can say anything you want to, there is no freedom of or from the consequences of what you say whether or not you're white british person or otherwise. There was no complaints when it was muslim extremists, only when white racists/cunts started getting arrested.
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"Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has launched a review into what she calls "serious information failures" in the case of British-Egyptian activist Alaa Abd El Fattah. In a letter to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, Cooper said she, Sir Keir Starmer and Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy "were all unaware" of Mr Abd El Fattah's historical tweets, which they consider to be "abhorrent". *Isn't it good how we have a government who, instead of lieing and trying to cover things up, actually act quickly, let us know how something happened, and actually seem to have a plan. Oh thank goodness .... Another review! They haven't let us know' anything ... Others pointed it out to them ... and they had to do a very fast U-Turn (yet again) .... Just another disastrous piss-up in the Starmer Government Brewery. It makes me laugh when people use the bale 'U-turn' when a government respond quickly to an event, own it, and tell us what they intend to do. Would you prefer the government to ignore the matter, and sweep it under the carpet? When it comes to matters of National Security - I'd prefer the government to get things right in the first place ... Instead of fucking up, and then when the fuck up is pointed out to them .... launching a review into why they fucked it up. wait for the we inherited this problem , which of two tier keir’s minions will be first to use that flogged to death old chestnut Well, there is the fact he was made a citizen by Boris and the tories campaigned for his release, so thats at least 3 tory pm's. But its starmers fault? How do you work that out? The due diligence to allow his entry into Britain is the present governments duty , to say they didn’t know his past is like saying the 9/11 guys only took lessons in landing. Previous Tory and Labour ministers lobbied for his release that happened three month ago that should of been job done You understand that the vetting of anyone coming here doesn't necessarily include posts on social media right? The due diligence is based around criminal history, medical history, references, education etc. And yet significant custodial sentences have been given to British people for making inflmitory posts on social media. Go figure
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"He shouldn't be here. He hates white people and western culture and has specifically called for the deaths of white people. What even is there to discuss about this?" Exactly! Revoke his UK citizenship and deport him! Simple as that! CASE CLOSED. | |||
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"Farage should be also deported to USA . "Farage is a UK-citizen, born in Kent, so deportation cannot technically apply to him. Deportation typically applies to non-citizens. | |||
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"Inverse racism?" Is that what you call.it when people object to others preaching about wanting them dead? | |||
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"Your frame of reference was white. Any thoughts on asylum seekers?" Would you be happy to house a couple of “asylum” seekers? Just one maybe? No, didn’t think so. | |||
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" Also the royal family aren't British. I've always been ok with that. " Re Carol Ann whom I am quoting. Cannot see any comparison between El Fattah and the British Royal Family. All monarch since, and including George III, have been born in this country. Some consorts were born abroad it's true. But they are hardly citizenship seeking foreigners. | |||
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"Would you be deporting the weaklings who hate black and asian people via social media postings?" Or the wet dreamers that run through forum post calling for Putin to be shot. Pre judicial murder is still murder | |||
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"Farage should be also deported to USA .
Farage is a UK-citizen, born in Kent, so deportation cannot technically apply to him. Deportation typically applies to non-citizens."Actually it does . Wasn’t Shamima Begum a British-born woman???? | |||
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Farage is a UK-citizen, born in Kent, so deportation cannot technically apply to him. Deportation typically applies to non-citizens.
Actually it does . Wasn’t Shamima Begum a British-born woman????"Her parents were Bangladeshi and using the same premise as Fattah's mother who was born in Britain, citizenship can also be determined by parentage | |||
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Farage is a UK-citizen, born in Kent, so deportation cannot technically apply to him. Deportation typically applies to non-citizens.
Actually it does . Wasn’t Shamima Begum a British-born woman????"Check the nationality act. After 1982 being born in the uk doesn't automatically make you british | |||
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"Brits invade half the world, then whinge when a few stragglers follow them home....you couldn't make this shit up.... "You absolute moron. | |||
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Check the nationality act. After 1982 being born in the uk doesn't automatically make you british"Ok.. they can change the law again np | |||
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"Would you be deporting the weaklings who hate black and asian people via social media postings?" Yes any visitor who is racist and encourages violence or crime should be removed from whatever country they are in. Nice cock tho | |||
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Actually it does . Wasn’t Shamima Begum a British-born woman????
Her parents were Bangladeshi and using the same premise as Fattah's mother who was born in Britain, citizenship can also be determined by parentage"The law is absurd regardless. The individual does not communicate in the language of his parents' homeland, having been born in England, yet he is sent to a remote location due to the authorities' inability to manage their terrorists. The terrorists are returned to a country he has never been while someone like Mo Farah is allowed to remain here despite his illegal status??? Is it because he is a gold medalist???? It is impossible to find humour in such nonsensical decisions. | |||
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Her parents were Bangladeshi and using the same premise as Fattah's mother who was born in Britain, citizenship can also be determined by parentage
The law is absurd regardless. The individual does not communicate in the language of his parents' homeland, having been born in England, yet he is sent to a remote location due to the authorities' inability to manage their terrorists. The terrorists are returned to a country he has never been while someone like Mo Farah is allowed to remain here despite his illegal status??? Is it because he is a gold medalist???? It is impossible to find humour in such nonsensical decisions."Fattah was born in Egypt and speaks Arabic | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have." Hear hear!! | |||
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Her parents were Bangladeshi and using the same premise as Fattah's mother who was born in Britain, citizenship can also be determined by parentage
The law is absurd regardless. The individual does not communicate in the language of his parents' homeland, having been born in England, yet he is sent to a remote location due to the authorities' inability to manage their terrorists. The terrorists are returned to a country he has never been while someone like Mo Farah is allowed to remain here despite his illegal status??? Is it because he is a gold medalist???? It is impossible to find humour in such nonsensical decisions.
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"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. —Martin Niemöller " That version of the poem is incorrect. It was edited by the American Holocaust Museum in the 1950s due to the Cold War with the Soviet Union. The original version reads: 'First they came for the Communists, And I did not speak out because I was not a Communist' So they just removed the Communists, and no one spoke out ... Because the narrative was that the Communists were coming after anyone who opposed communism. The Socialists just looked the other way while shuffling uncomfortably from foot to foot. And the Jews maintained that everyone else has been coming for them since the Neo-Babylonian Empire conquered the Kingdom of Judah These days, everyone is convinced that various entities are coming for them ... and are constantly speaking out against whoever, or whatever they feel is snapping at their heels. | |||
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Really? Assuming you are Irish--and yes I have Irish blood on my mother's side--seem to recall the Irish were only too happy to jump on the bandwagon "...which bandwagon was that? | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Hear hear!!" Apologised?? Oh, that's ok then. I think not! | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron." wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.. | |||
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Really? Assuming you are Irish--and yes I have Irish blood on my mother's side--seem to recall the Irish were only too happy to jump on the bandwagon ...which bandwagon was that?"Quite a lot of Irishmen joined the British army and colonising forces around the world | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron.wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.." Do you think this guy has killed someone then? | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron.wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.. Do you think this guy has killed someone then?" he wanted to please dont tell me your one of the people sticking up for the guy to remain in this country | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron.wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.." ...and the "palastinions" have killed how many exactly...? | |||
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"No second chance? Why do we need him here? .... ... Illogical. Why is it illogical? Is he a British citizen? What asset is he to this country?" Yes. He is a British Citizen. | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron.wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.....and the "palastinions" have killed how many exactly...?hammas killed thousands " ...you seem to be confusing Palestinians with Hammas? | |||
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So we are expected to suffer for the wrongdoings of our ancestors?...well you folks started it...."Tell me, what was it the Irish did to the West Coast of the main landmass of Britain? I won't say Wales and England as they were not called that then. Whas that "you folks"? Or is there a cutoff point of responsibility? | |||
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So we are expected to suffer for the wrongdoings of our ancestors?...well you folks started it....
Tell me, what was it the Irish did to the West Coast of the main landmass of Britain? I won't say Wales and England as they were not called that then.
Whas that "you folks"?
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Hear hear!! Apologised?? Oh, that's ok then. I think not! " Farage hasn't. | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Hear hear!! Apologised?? Oh, that's ok then. I think not! Farage hasn't. " 👍 | |||
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"of course it shouldn't. He made a couple of tweets a few years ago which he apologised for. Typical right wing, populist bandwagon jumping by Jenrick and Farage two most apalling politicians we have. Hear hear!! Apologised?? Oh, that's ok then. I think not! Farage hasn't. Nor should he " Did Nig advocate the murder of Zionist or police officers or did he allegedly rag on some one as a school boy unlike the Egyptian adult Those invoking his name in the the same category where exactly is your prospective ? | |||
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"Should his citizenship be revoked?" Absolutely it should, and be deported. | |||
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"Yes. And deported immediately" Sounds like his sister is just as bad? Apples don't fall far from trees. Deport the both of them. Vile pair. | |||
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"But ok for Tommy Robinson to remain?! Remind what Tommy has said that’s so bad and violent? Pathetic, brainwashed moron.wondered how long it would be before the left mentioned tommy..yes he has a past so what hes never killed anyone and hes opened a lot of peoples eyes these last few years..i belive him more than i belive starmer and co...the only people who want this egyptian guy to stay are probably the ones out every weekend supporting that palastinion lot.. Do you think this guy has killed someone then?he wanted to please dont tell me your one of the people sticking up for the guy to remain in this country Yes, they were angry tweets written by this guy a decade ago while in the middle of being harassed by a dictatorship. He clearly condemns his views from that time and having read them they aren't even that bad. Worse stuff is written on these forums everyday." He is reported to have liked comments on the internet in the last few days that suggested the media attacks on him about his historic tweets / blogs are a Zionist slur campaign . Absolutely genuine and contrite apology my hairy swingers | |||
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