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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence?" About the same apart from some budget shuffling of small change. Unless he plans to sell off the NHS and/or stop paying anything for social care then his only other option is to print money or sell Nigel Bonds. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence?" I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short." . Nothing to do with Brexit | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit" According to Google Brexit has lowered the UK GDP. Recent economic research consistently shows that Brexit has lowered the UK's Gross Domestic Product (GDP), with estimates suggesting a reduction of 6% to 8% by 2025. That has a big impact on our ability to raise defence spending. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit" Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now! | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now!" if brexit has been a wrecking ball to business and economy, what has starmer and Rachel reeves done to it | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now!" We never had any in the first place the EU has always been a thieves and bl*kma*lers paradise under vanderliedon | |||
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"Well that makes him no worse than the T**T that's in right now,and if he stops the boats, that will make him a lot better, and as for the NHS, people are dying in corridors alone and frightened, it's imploding, casualty departments full of lonely people who are there for company or attention and to gain evidence to support there latest DWP claim,Something HAS to change AND QUICK." He won't fix any of that. He has no actual plans. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" He's a known grifter and snake oil salesman. What's truly bewildering is how otherwise intelligent people fall for him. It's a cult of personality, nothing more. | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence." Net zero = pointless when China is building a new coal power station a month. Foreign aid = fuck them, let them sort their own problems out, not our issue and we will see no return. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now! if brexit has been a wrecking ball to business and economy, what has starmer and Rachel reeves done to it" Well, so far... only sat on there hands! Starmer has a shed full of problems to solve here in the UK... but spends most of his time cruising round the world pretending to be a world leader and poking his nose into things that don't concern us! He really is cringe inducing!  | |||
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". Net zero = pointless when China is building a new coal power station a month. " Building loads but with twenty five years life span and will not need them within next ten as it's greens energy comes on line. Already produces more green energy as a percentage of total then we do and is rapidly advancing this. " Foreign aid = fuck them, let them sort their own problems out, not our issue and we will see no return." Most of our foreign aid is tied to sweetener deals for our foreign exports primarily arms industry. It's what has kept heavy industry export manufacturing in this country afloat. And as a tiny element of govt spending it's not where we should be looking. Twenty times that goes in profits to govt consultancy from big six to Serco to G4 to Microsoft and AWS. If you want to save money, stop giving it away to foreign corporates! | |||
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"People spouting the country's struggles have nothing to do with Brexit....This level of denial simply compounds the dire economic and social situation we wallow in. Absolute troll posting ends of a bell." Hear hear, couldn’t agree more. Leaving the Single Market and Customs Union has been catastrophic for our economy. Raising trade barriers against our largest and closest trading partners has been insanity. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" No different to Labour’s promises. Some have been ditched, some are denied, some watered down and others broken. Rhetoric doesn’t always make it to the manifesto at election time and those that do can be changed when elected because “Things are far worse than we believed” | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. " *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess" lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong " Remember a few years ago when Liz Truss’s budget fucked the economy so badly, so quickly, that within days the Conservatives had booted her out? Do yourself a favour, don’t believe me, and google Nigel Farage’s instant reaction to that budget, that did so much damage to the economy. Spoiler alert - he thought it was the best budget in years. And you trust him and Reform to make you and your loved ones better off? Farage and Reform are making people like you so angry about immigration (which is falling and of which only a tiny proportion is people coming over in small boats) that you don’t look at all their other policies. And all their other policies will fuck anyone, normal people like us ,who aren’t wealthy. Where do you think Farage is getting all his money from? | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong Remember a few years ago when Liz Truss’s budget fucked the economy so badly, so quickly, that within days the Conservatives had booted her out? Do yourself a favour, don’t believe me, and google Nigel Farage’s instant reaction to that budget, that did so much damage to the economy. Spoiler alert - he thought it was the best budget in years. And you trust him and Reform to make you and your loved ones better off? Farage and Reform are making people like you so angry about immigration (which is falling and of which only a tiny proportion is people coming over in small boats) that you don’t look at all their other policies. And all their other policies will fuck anyone, normal people like us ,who aren’t wealthy. Where do you think Farage is getting all his money from?" She was set up to fail as soon as she got in to power. I used to be a conservative voter from as far as I could vote. Never in my life have I ever voted for Labour a they have screwed us. I bet you have TDS. | |||
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"Well that makes him no worse than the T**T that's in right now,and if he stops the boats, that will make him a lot better, and as for the NHS, people are dying in corridors alone and frightened, it's imploding, casualty departments full of lonely people who are there for company or attention and to gain evidence to support there latest DWP claim,Something HAS to change AND QUICK." Farage will not stop the boats and he knows that. Leaving the EU helped bring the boats over and Farage knew that,but could not admit to it.He said leaving the Dublin Agreement would not make the slightest difference to immigration,but it has. We left the Dublin agreement when we left the EU.Under the Dublin agreement we could send everyone back too France and that infamous Calais Camp. Now we cannot because the smugglers,migrants and everyman and his dog knows we cannot.If we had stayed in the single market and customs union we would still be okay too send the boats back. But we left that too. Farage wanted a hard brexit. He got one. | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong " I despise Starmer's Labour, but if you'd rather vote fascist than something else, crack on. Speaks volumes. | |||
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"Got to be Farage. No other party big enough to to stop the others. Vote Reform." 100% agree. Just hope it’s not too late by the time they get in to power. | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong Remember a few years ago when Liz Truss’s budget fucked the economy so badly, so quickly, that within days the Conservatives had booted her out? Do yourself a favour, don’t believe me, and google Nigel Farage’s instant reaction to that budget, that did so much damage to the economy. Spoiler alert - he thought it was the best budget in years. And you trust him and Reform to make you and your loved ones better off? Farage and Reform are making people like you so angry about immigration (which is falling and of which only a tiny proportion is people coming over in small boats) that you don’t look at all their other policies. And all their other policies will fuck anyone, normal people like us ,who aren’t wealthy. Where do you think Farage is getting all his money from? She was set up to fail as soon as she got in to power. I used to be a conservative voter from as far as I could vote. Never in my life have I ever voted for Labour a they have screwed us. I bet you have TDS. " 15 years of Tory austerity. They lost our AAA credit rating. They pulled us out of the EU which devalued the pound, which has never recovered. Leaving the EU has led to a 6 to 8% reduction in GDP. Which in turn means £45bn a year less to the Treasury to pay for the services we need. Yes, damn Labour. If you’ve always voted Tory and now Reform this is all on you. | |||
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"Well that makes him no worse than the T**T that's in right now,and if he stops the boats, that will make him a lot better, and as for the NHS, people are dying in corridors alone and frightened, it's imploding, casualty departments full of lonely people who are there for company or attention and to gain evidence to support there latest DWP claim,Something HAS to change AND QUICK. Farage will not stop the boats and he knows that. Leaving the EU helped bring the boats over and Farage knew that,but could not admit to it.He said leaving the Dublin Agreement would not make the slightest difference to immigration,but it has. We left the Dublin agreement when we left the EU.Under the Dublin agreement we could send everyone back too France and that infamous Calais Camp. Now we cannot because the smugglers,migrants and everyman and his dog knows we cannot.If we had stayed in the single market and customs union we would still be okay too send the boats back. But we left that too. Farage wanted a hard brexit. He got one." This. 100% this. | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong Remember a few years ago when Liz Truss’s budget fucked the economy so badly, so quickly, that within days the Conservatives had booted her out? Do yourself a favour, don’t believe me, and google Nigel Farage’s instant reaction to that budget, that did so much damage to the economy. Spoiler alert - he thought it was the best budget in years. And you trust him and Reform to make you and your loved ones better off? Farage and Reform are making people like you so angry about immigration (which is falling and of which only a tiny proportion is people coming over in small boats) that you don’t look at all their other policies. And all their other policies will fuck anyone, normal people like us ,who aren’t wealthy. Where do you think Farage is getting all his money from? She was set up to fail as soon as she got in to power. I used to be a conservative voter from as far as I could vote. Never in my life have I ever voted for Labour a they have screwed us. I bet you have TDS. 15 years of Tory austerity. They lost our AAA credit rating. They pulled us out of the EU which devalued the pound, which has never recovered. Leaving the EU has led to a 6 to 8% reduction in GDP. Which in turn means £45bn a year less to the Treasury to pay for the services we need. Yes, damn Labour. If you’ve always voted Tory and now Reform this is all on you." Best thing we did was pulling out. Europe will fail and takedown all of those still in it. | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. *smacks head against brick wall* Enjoy your fascist dictatorship then, I guess lol and you don’t think the current clowns have done anything wrong Remember a few years ago when Liz Truss’s budget fucked the economy so badly, so quickly, that within days the Conservatives had booted her out? Do yourself a favour, don’t believe me, and google Nigel Farage’s instant reaction to that budget, that did so much damage to the economy. Spoiler alert - he thought it was the best budget in years. And you trust him and Reform to make you and your loved ones better off? Farage and Reform are making people like you so angry about immigration (which is falling and of which only a tiny proportion is people coming over in small boats) that you don’t look at all their other policies. And all their other policies will fuck anyone, normal people like us ,who aren’t wealthy. Where do you think Farage is getting all his money from? She was set up to fail as soon as she got in to power. I used to be a conservative voter from as far as I could vote. Never in my life have I ever voted for Labour a they have screwed us. I bet you have TDS. 15 years of Tory austerity. They lost our AAA credit rating. They pulled us out of the EU which devalued the pound, which has never recovered. Leaving the EU has led to a 6 to 8% reduction in GDP. Which in turn means £45bn a year less to the Treasury to pay for the services we need. Yes, damn Labour. If you’ve always voted Tory and now Reform this is all on you. Best thing we did was pulling out. Europe will fail and takedown all of those still in it. " You’ve gone deep down the rabbit hole, haven’t you? Logic, statistics, cold hard facts, none of them pierce your proudly worn armour of ignorance. You’ve got what you voted for, own it. We’re out of the EU, we’re all poorer, all our Tory-underfunded creaking services are even poorer and can’t be improved because of the economic impact of Brexit. These are the sunlit uplands you were duped into voting for. Rejoice. | |||
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"The only good thing about Farege he will deport these scumbags who come on rubber boats.lets hope spineless starmer learns from the polish president how to deal with asylum seekers. " Well, he won't because he'll have the same problems everyone else has. | |||
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"Got to be Farage. No other party big enough to to stop the others. Vote Reform. 100% agree. Just hope it’s not too late by the time they get in to power. " Yer da paints roundabouts and yer maw shouts at hotels. | |||
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"Got to be Farage. No other party big enough to to stop the others. Vote Reform. 100% agree. Just hope it’s not too late by the time they get in to power. Yer da paints roundabouts and yer maw shouts at hotels." 100% best comment here *doffs cap* | |||
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"Its rather worriying what it must look like to the rest of the world that the polls show that a sizable proportion of the UK population are so gullable. " And the non gullable mob. Voted in the current shit show | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit" EVERYTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT! | |||
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"The NHS for a start. But im not sure he even wants to be PM." Yes, too much like hard work for Fromage. Look at his attendance as an MEP. | |||
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"Reform will be good for one term so they can change rules and make Britain a no go area for gimmigrants (gimmigrants is a word to describe wasters who cant make it in their own country so come here to ponce off the tax payers) . One term is enough to sort the mess out, get a good Brexit and let gimmigrants know they arent wanted here and if they try we will turn them around in the channel and get a good system in place where we only take those who can support themselves, have a profession and will fit in here." There’s no such thing as a good Brexit; every single thing which was predicted (so called “project fear”) has happened and it has turned out to be a catastrophic act of national self harm. All of it’s proponents should be tried for treason; saboteurs all. | |||
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"Its rather worriying what it must look like to the rest of the world that the polls show that a sizable proportion of the UK population are so gullable. And the non gullable mob. Voted in the current shit show " Yes the current shit show are shit and have been shit with the econommy and business. But they dont scare me as much as the Ultra-conservative do. | |||
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"Its rather worriying what it must look like to the rest of the world that the polls show that a sizable proportion of the UK population are so gullable. And the non gullable mob. Voted in the current shit show " It was the biggest gullible mob at the time that voted in this current shit show, and the biggest gullible mob will vote in the next lot, just like the biggest gullible mob at the time voted in the last shit show. Politicians are all from the same stock, but they just have different ideas of the best ways to line their own pockets. None of them seem to have any ideas of how to make the place better for the general populace though. | |||
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"Good point. Farage and his ilk hate gay people." Yup, it's tragic how much self loathing is on display in these comments. Hating both refugees AND themselves in the same breath. | |||
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"Do you honestly think Farage would be nice to LGBTQ people. His friends Trump and Putin don’t inspire much confidence on that one! " They don’t need help. All they need to be is treated like the rest of us. | |||
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"Do you honestly think Farage would be nice to LGBTQ people. His friends Trump and Putin don’t inspire much confidence on that one! They don’t need help. All they need to be is treated like the rest of us. " 'They'? You must be the only straight person on this site! | |||
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"Currently we have a rising stock market that often precedes booms." Also bubbles, followed by catastrophic crashes. Keep a weather eye out for AI and crypto bubbles. There's an awful lot of instability piling up there. | |||
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name)" We need to hold them accountable then. The one in one out policy costs plenty. Give them time to prove their claims. If it fails kick the liars out of power. Same with the house building targets they set. If they fail we should judge them by this failure. The same should be true for any party in power. | |||
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"Its rather worriying what it must look like to the rest of the world that the polls show that a sizable proportion of the UK population are so gullable. And the non gullable mob. Voted in the current shit show It was the biggest gullible mob at the time that voted in this current shit show, and the biggest gullible mob will vote in the next lot, just like the biggest gullible mob at the time voted in the last shit show. Politicians are all from the same stock, but they just have different ideas of the best ways to line their own pockets. None of them seem to have any ideas of how to make the place better for the general populace though." OK then, lets hand over our governance to another state. All we need is someone to be the shitshow TV host. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit According to Google Brexit has lowered the UK GDP. Recent economic research consistently shows that Brexit has lowered the UK's Gross Domestic Product (GDP), with estimates suggesting a reduction of 6% to 8% by 2025. That has a big impact on our ability to raise defence spending. " Using facts to reason with people who didn’t use reason to vote for something is pointless. The delusional and hard of thinking only believe in a fictional SOVEREIGNTY 🤣🤣 | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates." So no different from Tory or Labour then !! | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates." For a laugh? | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit"  
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name)" You are full of hatred. Cool off mate. | |||
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name) You are full of hatred. Cool off mate." So did u go out at night painting red crosses on roundabouts by any chance? It’s because of Brexit and Farage that this government is finding it hard to deport immigrants anyway! Nige just wants to round all those seeking asylum and put them in a big plane and deport them! Mmm much like ICE in America then | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. For a laugh?" For a laugh? Go to circus for that. | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. So no different from Tory or Labour then !!" There other political parties than just these. | |||
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name) You are full of hatred. Cool off mate. So did u go out at night painting red crosses on roundabouts by any chance? It’s because of Brexit and Farage that this government is finding it hard to deport immigrants anyway! Nige just wants to round all those seeking asylum and put them in a big plane and deport them! Mmm much like ICE in America then" Yes please. 100% behind Trump and ICE. | |||
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name) You are full of hatred. Cool off mate. So did u go out at night painting red crosses on roundabouts by any chance? It’s because of Brexit and Farage that this government is finding it hard to deport immigrants anyway! Nige just wants to round all those seeking asylum and put them in a big plane and deport them! Mmm much like ICE in America then Yes please. 100% behind Trump and ICE. " Then move to the States then Timmy lol | |||
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"Reform would definitely be a vote because the current government haven't done what they are told regarding stopping immigrants coming and deporting the ones that are here. If this is sorted then Reform will be finished. It would be a last resort vote, the government seem to forget that they are paid to do what the public tells them. Regarding my vote for mayor of London it will be for whoever is the most likely to get rid of the vermin that calls itself mayor now. (Ive forgot its name) You are full of hatred. Cool off mate. So did u go out at night painting red crosses on roundabouts by any chance? It’s because of Brexit and Farage that this government is finding it hard to deport immigrants anyway! Nige just wants to round all those seeking asylum and put them in a big plane and deport them! Mmm much like ICE in America then Yes please. 100% behind Trump and ICE. " And here folks is a demonstration of the true meaning of TDS. And isn't it just so much weirder when it comes from non Americans? I mean REALLY, truly fucking weird. Thinks we should protect 'are' women , cheerleads for a foreign rapist. Very little makes sense any more. | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. For a laugh? For a laugh? Go to circus for that." It's a trivial question, but it underlines a serious point. What if many voters lose all sense of trust in the mainstream political parties? They may end up treating their vote like it was throw away, just for a laugh. That's bad news for mainstream because it lets the radicals in. | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. For a laugh? For a laugh? Go to circus for that. It's a trivial question, but it underlines a serious point. What if many voters lose all sense of trust in the mainstream political parties? They may end up treating their vote like it was throw away, just for a laugh. That's bad news for mainstream because it lets the radicals in." The radical idiots are already in that’s the problem. | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. For a laugh? For a laugh? Go to circus for that. It's a trivial question, but it underlines a serious point. What if many voters lose all sense of trust in the mainstream political parties? They may end up treating their vote like it was throw away, just for a laugh. That's bad news for mainstream because it lets the radicals in. The radical idiots are already in that’s the problem. " They're about as radical as a Coldplay record ya dafty. 🤣 | |||
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"Why would anyone vote for Farage. The guy doesn't give a flying f@k about any working class citizens. Just fueling his own pockets and his ugly posh mates. For a laugh? For a laugh? Go to circus for that. It's a trivial question, but it underlines a serious point. What if many voters lose all sense of trust in the mainstream political parties? They may end up treating their vote like it was throw away, just for a laugh. That's bad news for mainstream because it lets the radicals in. The radical idiots are already in that’s the problem. They're about as radical as a Coldplay record ya dafty. 🤣" They are radically trying to ruin this country | |||
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"I don't really care what Farage's promises or policies are. The fact that he's far too close to the orange [insert rude noun here] automatically disqualifies him from getting my vote." Agreed! | |||
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"Im 63, and i have to say that these politicians today from all parties are the worst shower ive ever seen The Tories were hopeless, but i think Labour could be worse. Theyhave no idea on the economy or how small buisiness are struggling All politicians today from whatever party are liars" Absolutely, all out for themselves,doesn't matter who's in government. BUT, On that note im sure reform UK will get in because the "ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE" Brigade will vote them in, and tbh, why not , all the other f*****s have had a stint, and made no difference, reform might as well have a go!!! | |||
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"Farridge is only interested in one thing... and thats Farridge." How that makes him different from 99% of other politicians? | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence." 👍 | |||
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"Im 63, and i have to say that these politicians today from all parties are the worst shower ive ever seen The Tories were hopeless, but i think Labour could be worse. Theyhave no idea on the economy or how small buisiness are struggling All politicians today from whatever party are liarsAbsolutely, all out for themselves,doesn't matter who's in government. BUT, On that note im sure reform UK will get in because the "ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE" Brigade will vote them in, and tbh, why not , all the other f*****s have had a stint, and made no difference, reform might as well have a go!!!" I suppose it will be good to see a few different noses in the trough. But it looks like it will be mostly ex MPs from other parties that will be filling the Reform ranks | |||
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"Re-tory supporters don't care how it happens, how much it'll cost. They all believe nothing will happen to them and it's all going to be a utopia when the brown people are gone. " Seems to be a majority of men on those george cross flag wielding marches, when utopia fails to come to fruition they will need other scapegoats, perhaps it will be equality and women stealing all 'their' jobs after that fails to satisfy them... | |||
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"To make promises, you need to be in a position to fulfil them. Farage isn't. Therefore, nothing he says should be considered a promise. This applies to all opposition parties." True, and why most parties started referring to ‘pledges’ rather than promises decades ago. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. " Governments and councils of all political colours seem to waste vast amounts of money on pet projects. A lot of them unnecessary and of little benefit to the ordinary income/council tax payer. Easy to make promises when you are not in power. Also you cannot predict things that will upset your plans like pandemics, wars, international financial crisis's. A lot of Farage's fiscal and economic rhetoric is pie in the sky. Sounded wonderful but not properly costed. Last May they won control of various council areas. Promises to cut out waste. Now those very council areas are seeing a big increase in council tax. Dread to think what would happen if the Faragites ever came to national government. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now! if brexit has been a wrecking ball to business and economy, what has starmer and Rachel reeves done to it" If the conservatives had been so wonderfully awesome at managing the economy they might not have been voted out. Labours worst is better than Conservatives best. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. Governments and councils of all political colours seem to waste vast amounts of money on pet projects. A lot of them unnecessary and of little benefit to the ordinary income/council tax payer. Easy to make promises when you are not in power. Also you cannot predict things that will upset your plans like pandemics, wars, international financial crisis's. A lot of Farage's fiscal and economic rhetoric is pie in the sky. Sounded wonderful but not properly costed. Last May they won control of various council areas. Promises to cut out waste. Now those very council areas are seeing a big increase in council tax. Dread to think what would happen if the Faragites ever came to national government." In Brighton, there’s been a roundabout in front of the pier for 100 years or so with the traffic flowing reasonably smoothly and now the labour controlled council are removing it to put in a junction. Totally pointless and will lead to more traffic congestion as it will slow then stop traffic lanes with traffic light. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. " Can you verify that statement? Before you do, consider what the Standard and Business Daily have said, which is: After the May 2025 local elections, Reform UK took control of Kent County Council. The council claimed it had identified millions of pounds in savings since taking over, for example by scrapping or pausing planned programmes such as the Net Zero Renewable Energy Programme (£32 m over four years) and postponing the switch to electric vehicles (£7.5 m). There were also moves like reducing councillor allowances and bringing children’s homes “in-house” that were presented as cost-savings.  However, independent scrutiny and reporting suggest that many of these savings claims are disputed or misleading: Some savings come from cancelling planned future spending rather than reducing ongoing core budgets, and critics argue those don’t represent real savings compared with how the previous administration had budgeted.  Opponents in Kent and local commentators have said that some actions were already planned under previous leadership or that the figures are hard to validate. There are reports of overspends and budget shortfalls since the Reform administration took over.  Reform-controlled Kent County Council has publicly claimed to have saved money compared to its previous administration. Independent analysis and local reporting cast doubt on whether those savings materialise in practice or were attributable to the reform council rather than inherited plans.  | |||
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"Re-tory supporters don't care how it happens, how much it'll cost. They all believe nothing will happen to them and it's all going to be a utopia when the brown people are gone. Seems to be a majority of men on those george cross flag wielding marches, when utopia fails to come to fruition they will need other scapegoats, perhaps it will be equality and women stealing all 'their' jobs after that fails to satisfy them..." Actually, I’m all in favour of people losing their jobs to others because it’s their own fault for not choosing to work for a company that values them and for not having the training and expertise to be kept on. If you’re (not you poster) one of these people who are worried ‘foreign’ people will ‘steal’ your job, then make yourself invaluable and not get replaced. Conservative free market, ain’t it a bitch? | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" He's already said he will reign back on international aid,so there is billions | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? About the same apart from some budget shuffling of small change. Unless he plans to sell off the NHS and/or stop paying anything for social care then his only other option is to print money or sell Nigel Bonds." No the only option is to stop foreign aid,theres your billions | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence." EXACTLY,THAT EQUALS BILLIONS | |||
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"Farage's promises are a bit like fairy dust" Bit like starmers then | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it He's already said he will reign back on international aid,so there is billions" Hmmmm…….I wonder how many babies will starve to death in order to purchase a tank? Answer: about 12,000. | |||
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"Huge cuts in the welfare budget for starters. NHS, social care etc. Education budget slashed and environment too. If Reform get into power at the next election, it ain't gonna be pretty. " BULLSHIT | |||
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"Well that makes him no worse than the T**T that's in right now,and if he stops the boats, that will make him a lot better, and as for the NHS, people are dying in corridors alone and frightened, it's imploding, casualty departments full of lonely people who are there for company or attention and to gain evidence to support there latest DWP claim,Something HAS to change AND QUICK. He won't fix any of that. He has no actual plans. " BIT LIKE STARMER THEN | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence. Net zero = pointless when China is building a new coal power station a month. Foreign aid = fuck them, let them sort their own problems out, not our issue and we will see no return." Perfectly said | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. " Thank god for some sanity | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence. Net zero = pointless when China is building a new coal power station a month. Foreign aid = fuck them, let them sort their own problems out, not our issue and we will see no return. Perfectly said" Perhaps, but not very smoothly nuanced. It’s not as simple as that. Consider this: Much of China’s coal power supports manufacturing for global consumption — including goods used in the UK, Europe, and the US., so if you buy anything made in China, you’re helping with climate change. As for the foreign aid question, consider the wider implications: Cutting aid to zero would reduce UK global influence sharply, damage alliances and soft power and likely worsen instability, disease, and famine — which eventually rebounds into security, migration, and pandemic risks for the UK So while the short-term fiscal and political gains are real, the long-term strategic costs are serious. | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. Thank god for some sanity" Lmfao | |||
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" The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. " Are there no 'righty' ones? Are you able to provide an example of an idiotic lefty project that Reform have saved money on ? Certainly not the £7 billion Farage claimed, as that would take 289 years. DEI is USA terminology, UK policies are about preventing discrimination wheras the US programme is affirmative, entirely different. | |||
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" The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. Are there no 'righty' ones? Are you able to provide an example of an idiotic lefty project that Reform have saved money on ? Certainly not the £7 billion Farage claimed, as that would take 289 years. DEI is USA terminology, UK policies are about preventing discrimination wheras the US programme is affirmative, entirely different. " Reforms councillors have resigned in droves! Private Eye keep a running tally of those who have thrown in the towel less than a year since they were elected. Each local government by-election costs c. £25k . | |||
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" The sheer amount of wastage on idiotic lefty projects that has been identified by Reform is where the money is coming from. Thats why liebour luvvies on here are screaming about it. All their beloved, pet, DEI projects going out the window. Are there no 'righty' ones? Are you able to provide an example of an idiotic lefty project that Reform have saved money on ? Certainly not the £7 billion Farage claimed, as that would take 289 years. DEI is USA terminology, UK policies are about preventing discrimination wheras the US programme is affirmative, entirely different. Reforms councillors have resigned in droves! Private Eye keep a running tally of those who have thrown in the towel less than a year since they were elected. Each local government by-election costs c. £25k . " 36 out of 677 in just under a year have resigned. | |||
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"Before anybody jumps to conclusions, I am NOT left wing. Nevertheless, I honestly believe that if Farage were to become PM, his supporters would be in for a huge disappointment. The UK is not run by democratically elected governments. It's run by the political elite, the civil service, the judiciary, the press barons and the super rich. Whoever is elected soon realises that the most they're allowed to do is to tinker around the edges. By small increments the establishment is creating a world where our rights and freedoms will be non existent. And it's not just in the UK. All around the world people are waking up to the fact that our basic freedoms are being eroded in the name of flippant phrases like public safety, the greater good and efficiency. It's all hogwash because in reality this is about population control, and Farage will discover that he's as powerless to stop the process as anybody else." Very true. But I don't believe he has any intention of doing anything other than easing the path to financial control for his sponsors. And maybe a few xenophobic side projects as much as circus for the plebs as opposed to bread and butter interests of his international corporate financiers. | |||
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"Huge cuts in the welfare budget for starters. NHS, social care etc. Education budget slashed and environment too. If Reform get in...., it ain't gonna be pretty. BULLSHIT" Actually in as much as his party has a binding manifesto or pledges that have lasted more than a newspaper print run before retraction, the above is pretty much his stated aims when elected. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" He intends to encourage North Sea oil and gas production and exploration and allowing all North Sea oil Exploration and for that alone he gets my vote. | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, " Then he drops practically the only motivator for regenerating trades in this country using govt money. The solar generation the insulation the grid replacement and the potential manufacture of this goods , all becomes pointless and won't get the billions in govt aid suggested. Instead they will do what? Pay a foreign contractor to run a nuclear plant that's already five years behind massively over budget and has no water to cool it?!? "foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence." Most of foreign aid is indirectly tied to defense contracts or exports from what's left of Britain's strategic industries. You cut aid, you cut sales, and plants close at home. " Net zero = pointless when China is building a new coal power station a month. " China has a target life span of ten to twenty years for those plants. And is already winding down their construction. It is the world leader in green energy and will continue to grow that capacity massively. Which will also reduce costs of it's manufacturing base. China is once again leaving the petro states and thier minders(us) in the sand. | |||
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"How can anybody fail to see what a hateful charlatan he is... Absolutely poisonous- he'd be a natural fit in the German nation party of the 1930s." It’s laughable isn’t it. As transparent as cling film yet people fall for it. | |||
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"If he ditches net zero, foreign aid and such there will be a fair bit to spend on defence." We are the world's 6th largest economy by nominal GDP, yet we contribute a mere 0.5% of GNI as foreign aid. And the problem is foreign aid??? If the UK can't manage its spending (defence and otherwise) from its remaining 99.5%, then there's something seriously wrong. Of course, we could do. But it's all about priorities. Can I suggest instead of jumping straight onto the far right talking points - foreigners, environmental standards - you actually focus on what the super-rich DON'T want you to focus on, which is obscene wealth inequality. It's no secret that the billionaires and millionaires are backing Reform - a part led by a fake 'man of the people' who doesn't even enjoy pints, but has enough charisma and charm to convince the low information section of the country to support his party and its brutal de-regulation agenda that will do nothing to help the lives of working people other than appeal to certain primitive prejudices. | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it He's already said he will reign back on international aid,so there is billions Hmmmm…….I wonder how many babies will starve to death in order to purchase a tank? Answer: about 12,000. " I'm guessing that if the financial movers and shakers imagine that they are about to have their foundations shaken by a war, money becomes magically available. It happened in 1939, ending the Great Depression. During WW2 we borrowed to the hilt, and didn't clear the debt until 2006. Only trouble is, the bullets have to start flying first. | |||
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" Reforms councillors have resigned in droves! Private Eye keep a running tally of those who have thrown in the towel less than a year since they were elected. Each local government by-election costs c. £25k . 36 out of 677 in just under a year have resigned. " Still quite a lot. I get the impression that these councillors, like the great Farage himself, enjoy the electioneering. The glamour of being voted in and defeating their opponents. But when it comes to the humdrum nitty-gritty of council work they don't want to know. Reckon it would be the same if the Farage ever did win the election. He would be a bone-idle PM other than jetting round the world to see his chums. After all he had one of the worse attendance and voting in the EU parliament and it's not much better in the UK parliament. | |||
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" Reforms councillors have resigned in droves! Private Eye keep a running tally of those who have thrown in the towel less than a year since they were elected. Each local government by-election costs c. £25k . 36 out of 677 in just under a year have resigned. Still quite a lot. I get the impression that these councillors, like the great Farage himself, enjoy the electioneering. The glamour of being voted in and defeating their opponents. But when it comes to the humdrum nitty-gritty of council work they don't want to know. Reckon it would be the same if the Farage ever did win the election. He would be a bone-idle PM other than jetting round the world to see his chums. After all he had one of the worse attendance and voting in the EU parliament and it's not much better in the UK parliament. " I think some of them never expected to be elected and as you say they weren’t prepared for the hum drum nature of most council business. Anecdotally I heard that some didn’t realise that councils met during the day and weren’t prepared to ask their boss for time off work (a legal entitlement) and the self employed didn’t want to turn down work. | |||
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"DEI is USA terminology, UK policies are about preventing discrimination wheras the US programme is affirmative, entirely different." Not exactly. DEI policies are the same there and here, and my understanding is that the old style US ‘affirmative action’ policies are mostly long gone. The flip side of this is the carnage being caused here by inflexible policies for recruitment of police and fire services, and even labour MP candidates. | |||
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"How much did the other 2 parties pay on defence? I think there has been a general realisation we need to spend more on defence. The trouble is, brexit has impoverished the country so its difficult to do much without leaving other areas short.. Nothing to do with Brexit Brexit has been a wrecking ball to UK business and the economy; that's universally excepted as so now! When we return to the EU, we will never get the advantages terms of membership that we previously had! It's gonna be a hard road... but the only one left to us now! if brexit has been a wrecking ball to business and economy, what has starmer and Rachel reeves done to it" All the kings men and all the kings horses can't put Humpty together again!  | |||
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"Farage is the tool of billionaires who want the same kind of economic inequalities exploitation we see in the US. If Reform get in they will fuck normal people in this country. They’ll privatise the NHS for a start. Do you know expensive it is to insure a pet, never mind a human. Particularly if you already have existing conditions or are elderly. They fucked us once with Brexit and if they get in they’ll have five years to fuck us even more. They use immigration to get people to eagerly vote to make themselves poorer, just like they did with Brexit, because they’re too busy jibbering about immigration to see all Reform’s other policies will make themselves, their familiars their communities much, much worse off." A lot of what you say is true... however Fargash only gets oxygen because of the total inadequacy of the other parties to run the country, economy and services! There is no one at the wheel and Farage is offering to drive us (to hell maybe)! | |||
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"For one he cannot do any worse than these current clowns and the previous ones. So for myself I am 100% behind him. " It's human nature to grasp at straws when desperate! | |||
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"The NHS for a start. But im not sure he even wants to be PM." He doesn't ! He wants to lord it around like a King with no actual responsibility other than sniping from the sides and making dubious money by being famous. He knows he won't get in to power and he will never be asked to actually prove anything. He's a very slimy, cowardly, c**t of a worm | |||
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"I know Farage is popular at the moment, but as for all he is promising, he’s now saying he’s going to spend untold billions on defence if he gets in, on top of all he’s already promised, it’s easy to make promises when your not in power, but where is all this money coming from, and what cuts in other areas will he have to make to pay for it" If the country does lose its mind and actually votes for this charlatan, they'll simply get an inactive and stagnant mess. All he'll do is do what he does now, campaign. He'll have access to millions for "rallies" and will use our tax money to repay his american and foreign "friends" for getting him into office. The strangest and weirdest part of this rise of retory is that despite 14 years of failure, cuts, tax rises and destruction of our country, the people most affected seem to support him without question. They sycophantically reject facts and prefer the lies he tells. There is only one reason, a pure hatred of anyone who isn't white. | |||
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