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"Prats who don't understand that you give way to the right at roundabouts! Simples!" Plenty people don’t get this | |||
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem."" Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. | |||
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"When people don't indicate. Especially on motorways!" Ha Ha, my car will fight you if you try and change lanes without indicating. Middle lane hoggers Unnecessary use of fog lights, front or rear. People who don't understand what merge in turn means so sit between both lanes 1/2 a mile from the merge point, HGV drivers are particularly guilty of this. people in 4x4 vehicles that feel the need to come to an almost complete stop every time they negotiate a speed bump. | |||
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"The dreaded rear fog lights a) when there is no need to have them on in the first place as visibility doesn’t warrant it and b) even if they are required to be on, leaving them on and blinding the vehicle close behind. I live rural and one main road is about 20 miles long, so can be blinded the entire length." There's a special place in Hell for these people | |||
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"Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." You seem cock sure? | |||
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"My pet hate is people that do nit use there indicators people who start to change lanes before they use there indicators An idiots who drive around in poor visibility with no lights on at all Driving my other pet hate is cyclists who ride on the road where there is a perfectly good cycle track provided for them and those that ride two a breast on roads I just get another cold drink now" Cyclist and certain car drivers [Audi in particular] who are above the law and do not need to follow the Highway Code or commonsense courtesy when using the roads | |||
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"What’s your pet hates when Driving??? Pedestrians who just walk out into the road without even looking " These days, in certain circumstances, they have right of way anyway.... | |||
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"What’s your pet hates when Driving??? Pedestrians who just walk out into the road without even looking These days, in certain circumstances, they have right of way anyway...." They do but it doesn’t mean they can walk out in the road without looking 🤷🏻 | |||
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"Aggressive drivers + zipper lanes..." Yep, the ones who are impatient and will aggressively and often dangerously get in front so that they are a whole car length in front in a long line of congested traffic. Strange people. | |||
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"Cocky little fuckers who try to undertake on the left, especially in city traffic. Had one the other day, trying to sneak past on the left when I pulled over to the right to pass some parked cars about 100 yds ahead already doing a decent speed. Thought no fucking chance and gave it the beans till he had to drop back. Obviously when I got back over to the left and kept it legal he just had to make his point and blast past but I made sure he got the universal hand signal and saw it "Sounds like appalling driving/behaviour on both counts! | |||
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"Aggressive drivers + zipper lanes... Yep, the ones who are impatient and will aggressively and often dangerously get in front so that they are a whole car length in front in a long line of congested traffic. Strange people." It's the ones that accelerate past the queue at ridiculous speeds all the way to the angle of cones and attempts to force themselves in without waiting for a second like "merge in turn" isn't a thing... | |||
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Had a few run ins with people like that, I always ask them if their name Ama Clevertwat. | |||
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"The purpose on indicators is to indicate what you intend to do, its not to indicate what you are doing after you have started to do what you intended to do, this pisses me right off" This. I don’t really care when people don’t indicate, but the ones that indicate while they’re mid-manoeuvre, piss me of. | |||
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"Cocky little fuckers who try to undertake on the left, especially in city traffic. Had one the other day, trying to sneak past on the left when I pulled over to the right to pass some parked cars about 100 yds ahead already doing a decent speed. Thought no fucking chance and gave it the beans till he had to drop back. Obviously when I got back over to the left and kept it legal he just had to make his point and blast past but I made sure he got the universal hand signal and saw it
Sounds like appalling driving/behaviour on both counts!"Fair point, as the grownup I shouldn't rise to the bait. All that lingerie wearing has obviously had zero effect on my testosterone levels | |||
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"People who drive everywhere no matter the speed limit at 40mph 60 zone 40mph 30 zone 40mph. So your not confident enough to drive up to 60 but can drive 10mph over the speed limit in an urban area where your more likely to kill somebody. Boggling! "people who do the opposite, because they are brainless lemmings. The love 20mph. They must of had orgasms galore when 20 mph was plastered everywhere. Doesn't matter the road speed, 30, 40 they don't care. They just love tootling around at 20mph. Nothing else to do i suppose. | |||
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"Boy racers in souped up Corsas etc with a loud exhaust who think they are so cool when they tear-arse off with their sound system making an equally awful... BOOM! BOOM!!! godamn row! " How quaint. It's like a return to the days of Max Power
All the lads round Brum who want to drive like twats now have Audis/Mercs/Beemers. Or they hire a Lambo or Porsche. They wouldn't be seen dead in a British car. | |||
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"People who sit on thier foot brake at traffic lights and blind you." I'm with you on that one, the excuse is usually that the car is automatic, I've driven automatics for a living and never did I have a problem using the handbrake and putting the car in N and then D and handbrake off. | |||
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"Cocky little fuckers who try to undertake on the left, especially in city traffic. Had one the other day, trying to sneak past on the left when I pulled over to the right to pass some parked cars about 100 yds ahead already doing a decent speed. Thought no fucking chance and gave it the beans till he had to drop back. Obviously when I got back over to the left and kept it legal he just had to make his point and blast past but I made sure he got the universal hand signal and saw it "If someone can/has undertaken YOU! YOUR IN THE WRONG LANE! I shocked that you seriously believe you were in the right for 1st pulling over so soon then 2nd making a point of speeding up just to fuck up the other driver ! Please let me know where in the Highway Code it states for you to drive so aggressively?? | |||
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. " What a fucking joke Every post you put on this thread is about your aggressive driving attitude!! You sir are a blatant lier ! You wouldn’t know defensive driving if it layed down in front of your face And just Wtaf is submissive driving? Fucking delusional  | |||
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. What a fucking joke Every post you put on this thread is about your aggressive driving attitude!! You sir are a blatant lier ! You wouldn’t know defensive driving if it layed down in front of your face And just Wtaf is submissive driving? Fucking delusional "What else you got? I like to make progress. Usually not aggressively but I will drive fast up to the limits and occasionally exceed them e.g. when overtaking trucks or slow coaches. Defensive driving is looking ahead and behind, eyes everywhere, having a sense for the unexpected. I'd define submissive driving as just letting wankers walk all over you, undertake, cut in etc without letting them know they're in the wrong. Sometimes I can't be arsed. Sometimes I let them wind me up. But hey whatever, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Haven't had an accident in nearly forty years of driving by the way. My insurance premium is subterranean. | |||
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"People who drive everywhere no matter the speed limit at 40mph 60 zone 40mph 30 zone 40mph. So your not confident enough to drive up to 60 but can drive 10mph over the speed limit in an urban area where your more likely to kill somebody. Boggling! "Yes, and Driving Miss Daisy types. I have a long rural road near me that isn’t always easy to overtake, 50 to 60 zones, yet will not go above 30 or even less. Road menaces. | |||
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"If someone can/has undertaken YOU! YOUR IN THE WRONG LANE! I shocked that you seriously believe you were in the right for 1st pulling over so soon then 2nd making a point of speeding up just to fuck up the other driver ! Please let me know where in the Highway Code it states for you to drive so aggressively?? " No, with respect you are entirely incorrect. For Brum drivers this is where you pull off the Robin Hood roundabout heading south towards Shirley on Stratford Rd. About 100 yds up there are designated parking spaces on the urban dual carriageway and there's always a parked car or two in them (I do this route every day). So the safe thing to do is move to the right in plenty of time so as not to cut in front of people behind you unexpectedly. Now if some twat wants to do that to me, he's not getting the chance. It doesn't mean I'm going over 40 but just accelerating fast enough to make it clear he's going to have to obey the rules too. | |||
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"Cunts who don't understand how a yellow box junction works. ." Especially turning right with traffic lights, delaying everybody behind and inevitably the lights change making you wait even longer. And even without a box the drivers who don’t proceed forward to wait to turn right on a green when about 5 cars could move forward from the lights. Fucking arseholes. | |||
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"Not indicating" The majority of these seem to drive German cars which is odd. Germany is probably the most technically advances country in Europe so you would have thought they would fit all their cars with indicators as standard. | |||
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"Not indicating The majority of these seem to drive German cars which is odd. Germany is probably the most technically advances country in Europe so you would have thought they would fit all their cars with indicators as standard." Very stereotypical comment! Me personally who covers between 800-1000 per week find it’s more small cars and vans that tend not to indicate In particular Amazon dpd seem to be the worst for not indicating | |||
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"So my driving pet hate is idiots who think no matter what they do on the road is right ! No matter how wrong they are ! For instance claiming be a professional “defensive” driver when clearly stating they are an aggressive crap driver with a car that happens to be more powerful than the Ford fiesta they are holding up and plays pathetic games when said fiesta tries to get past em " Now now guys let’s try to be nice eh We are all adults here 😁 | |||
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. What a fucking joke Every post you put on this thread is about your aggressive driving attitude!! You sir are a blatant lier ! You wouldn’t know defensive driving if it layed down in front of your face And just Wtaf is submissive driving? Fucking delusional
What else you got?
I like to make progress. Usually not aggressively but I will drive fast up to the limits and occasionally exceed them e.g. when overtaking trucks or slow coaches.
Defensive driving is looking ahead and behind, eyes everywhere, having a sense for the unexpected. I'd define submissive driving as just letting wankers walk all over you, undertake, cut in etc without letting them know they're in the wrong. Sometimes I can't be arsed. Sometimes I let them wind me up.
But hey whatever, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Haven't had an accident in nearly forty years of driving by the way. My insurance premium is subterranean.
Again you are fucking delusional
Please tell everyone who wishes to read what license you hold and when and when it was issued
Whilst your at it i would love to know more about what is entailed in your defensive driving licence more in particular where was is issued when was it issued?
Before you answer I have my advanced plus driving licence psv, lgv and 2 current race licenses
I have achieved these over the last 25 years ! Believe me when I tell you not a single thing you have written has every been part of anything I have ever been taught
Not in any of them was I taught that if someone undertakes me my mission would be to speed up and make them brake !
You honestly think that is defensive ?
The fact you state you haven’t had a accident in 40 years i think is either a lie or only due to other people seeing you for the dickhead on the road that you have clearly written here on this very tread and given you a wide berth (submissive driving as you put it!)
Which in your very own words makes you the wanker !
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. What a fucking joke Every post you put on this thread is about your aggressive driving attitude!! You sir are a blatant lier ! You wouldn’t know defensive driving if it layed down in front of your face And just Wtaf is submissive driving? Fucking delusional
What else you got?
I like to make progress. Usually not aggressively but I will drive fast up to the limits and occasionally exceed them e.g. when overtaking trucks or slow coaches.
Defensive driving is looking ahead and behind, eyes everywhere, having a sense for the unexpected. I'd define submissive driving as just letting wankers walk all over you, undertake, cut in etc without letting them know they're in the wrong. Sometimes I can't be arsed. Sometimes I let them wind me up.
But hey whatever, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Haven't had an accident in nearly forty years of driving by the way. My insurance premium is subterranean.
Again you are fucking delusional
Please tell everyone who wishes to read what license you hold and when and when it was issued
Whilst your at it i would love to know more about what is entailed in your defensive driving licence more in particular where was is issued when was it issued?
Before you answer I have my advanced plus driving licence psv, lgv and 2 current race licenses
I have achieved these over the last 25 years ! Believe me when I tell you not a single thing you have written has every been part of anything I have ever been taught
Not in any of them was I taught that if someone undertakes me my mission would be to speed up and make them brake !
You honestly think that is defensive ?
The fact you state you haven’t had a accident in 40 years i think is either a lie or only due to other people seeing you for the dickhead on the road that you have clearly written here on this very tread and given you a wide berth (submissive driving as you put it!)
Which in your very own words makes you the wanker !
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"Gets out the popcorn" Sorry, I've run out of fucks to give on this one | |||
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"Gets out the popcorn Sorry, I've run out of fucks to give on this one "😁 it’s good to let off steam 😉 | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow!" Excellent excuse! | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow!" I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳 | |||
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"Dickheads right up your arse when your doing the maximum legal speed limit trying to force you to speed up " Yep, flashing their lights to get out the way in the mistaken belief they’re more important. | |||
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"Dickheads right up your arse when your doing the maximum legal speed limit trying to force you to speed up Yep, flashing their lights to get out the way in the mistaken belief they’re more important." thats the poibt where you sudde ly become a granby driver,40mph max,and a few brake tests thrown in for good measure,lol | |||
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"Drivers who stop at junctions with half of their bonnets over the white lines. Drivers, usually on motorways who think queues by exits don’t apply to them and try and nudge in at the head of the queue right on the junction.simple solution is have a valve tool, remove the dust cap and unscrew the valves leave them on their wiper blades, no damage but also no air in their tyres!!! Drivers who don’t indicate Inconsiderate parking, I live near a school and for about 20 minutes morning and afternoon in term-time they block drives and footpaths whilst waiting for their kids." | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow! I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳" Ffs what else would you use it for? It stops you going over a certain speed. If you brake you stop. Mine even has intelligent braking and keeps a safe distance from anything infront. Just doesn't work below 25mph. | |||
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"Parents who take their offspring to school by car. Children should walk too & from school. This would probably reduce CO2 emissions by quite a bit & ease the rush hour traffic. " That would presuppose all kids attend their nearest school, which hasn't happened since about 1979 or so. | |||
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"Nobs who pull out to overtake and take five miles to do so because their only doing one mile an hour faster than the inner lane. Drivers who hog the outside lane. Those who cannot judge that the people in the outside lane are travelling much faster than them and still pull out without consulting their mirrors nearly causing a rear end accident. Women who constantly tail gate you because they have NO COMMON FUCKING SENSE about safety. " Agree with the last one it’s a common thing to see on the roads now They fly around like lunatics it’s as if they are trying to prove a point that they can actually drive 🤷🏻 | |||
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"excessive unnecessary hesitation to enter roundabout when it’s their right of way" There's one on my daily commute, mini roundabout with four entry/exits and usually plenty of traffic. I swear when four cars arrive at each it's Mexican standoff time, every time. Like who's making the first move? | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow! I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳 Ffs what else would you use it for? It stops you going over a certain speed. If you brake you stop. Mine even has intelligent braking and keeps a safe distance from anything infront. Just doesn't work below 25mph." As I said, it makes little sense. You said you often set cruise control when in Wales due to 20mph limits. 20mph limits in Wales are mostly urban city streets which are typically short distances and city driving requires frequent braking. I’m near Cardiff and the longest roads, all connected at 20 mph, take a few minutes if clear or 20mph would be an ambition in heavy traffic. You’re on the Welsh borders, name me a road at 20mph that you use regularly with the need for cruise control? Your car probably doesn’t work below 25mph as there is no need for it as cruise control is meant for much longer and higher speeds, not pootling around city streets. Learn how to properly use cruise control or, better still, take a refresher course where you’re able to drive at 20mph for short distances. As I said, it makes little sense. 🫤 | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow! I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳 Ffs what else would you use it for? It stops you going over a certain speed. If you brake you stop. Mine even has intelligent braking and keeps a safe distance from anything infront. Just doesn't work below 25mph. As I said, it makes little sense. You said you often set cruise control when in Wales due to 20mph limits. 20mph limits in Wales are mostly urban city streets which are typically short distances and city driving requires frequent braking. I’m near Cardiff and the longest roads, all connected at 20 mph, take a few minutes if clear or 20mph would be an ambition in heavy traffic. You’re on the Welsh borders, name me a road at 20mph that you use regularly with the need for cruise control? Your car probably doesn’t work below 25mph as there is no need for it as cruise control is meant for much longer and higher speeds, not pootling around city streets. Learn how to properly use cruise control or, better still, take a refresher course where you’re able to drive at 20mph for short distances. As I said, it makes little sense. 🫤" Just take my eye off the road and constantly watch the speedometer. | |||
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"Parents who take their offspring to school by car. Children should walk too & from school. This would probably reduce CO2 emissions by quite a bit & ease the rush hour traffic. All children should be taken to school the same way that we take a Goose to market; by a man with a big stick. That would presuppose all kids attend their nearest school, which hasn't happened since about 1979 or so. " | |||
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"Not indicating The majority of these seem to drive German cars which is odd. Germany is probably the most technically advances country in Europe so you would have thought they would fit all their cars with indicators as standard." This ‘German cars’ opinion is a ridiculous urban myth. | |||
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"Audi Drivers!! We arnt all bad 😘 " Hmmm, well you look and sound pretty naughty to me, Darling! I mean in the right circumstances I'm quite happy if a gentleman comes up fast behind me, with a throbbing roar, and starts flashing me....but less when I'm already overtaking someone slower in the middle lane and he's doing 90. Where does he expect me to go? | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow! I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳 Ffs what else would you use it for? It stops you going over a certain speed. If you brake you stop. Mine even has intelligent braking and keeps a safe distance from anything infront. Just doesn't work below 25mph. As I said, it makes little sense. You said you often set cruise control when in Wales due to 20mph limits. 20mph limits in Wales are mostly urban city streets which are typically short distances and city driving requires frequent braking. I’m near Cardiff and the longest roads, all connected at 20 mph, take a few minutes if clear or 20mph would be an ambition in heavy traffic. You’re on the Welsh borders, name me a road at 20mph that you use regularly with the need for cruise control? Your car probably doesn’t work below 25mph as there is no need for it as cruise control is meant for much longer and higher speeds, not pootling around city streets. Learn how to properly use cruise control or, better still, take a refresher course where you’re able to drive at 20mph for short distances. As I said, it makes little sense. 🫤 Just take my eye off the road and constantly watch the speedometer." Eh? Every driver is required to multitask for various functions. Do you never look in your mirrors? If you require the constant need to look at your speedo then you obviously need to consider using the bus instead as that is driving without due care & attention. Speedo reads are fractions of a second for competent drivers. I don’t agree with the blanket 20mph limit but it’s not difficult to adhere to, just an annoyance. | |||
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"People in the wrong lane at a filter junction who then try to cut in in front of you on green. Again, no fucking chance kiddo, saw you creeping and that's not happening "Lol you sound like one of the idiots you are complaining about. Oh dear. | |||
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"People in the wrong lane at a filter junction who then try to cut in in front of you on green. Again, no fucking chance kiddo, saw you creeping and that's not happening
Lol you sound like one of the idiots you are complaining about. Oh dear. "So you think it's OK for people to ignore the road markings then try to get past you from the wrong side when you're not expecting it. OK. I had this with that idiot above. It's about awareness of what the other idiots are doing. And giving them a small lesson while doing so. | |||
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"20 mph on so many roads in Wales. My cruise control often won't actually set that slow! I can’t make sense of this. Cruise control shouldn’t really be set on urban roads anyway. 😳 Ffs what else would you use it for? It stops you going over a certain speed. If you brake you stop. Mine even has intelligent braking and keeps a safe distance from anything infront. Just doesn't work below 25mph." Don't you have speed limiter function, most can be set from 15mph upwards? | |||
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"What’s your pet hates when Driving??? For me it’s when you let someone through and they don’t acknowledge to say thank you 😡 When drivers slow right down or even stop at roundabouts even though they can clearly see it’s clear Pedestrians who just walk out into the road without even looking " people who think if they are doing 60mph on an empty motorway they still need to be in the middle lane or hog the outside lane after they have over taken a car | |||
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"Blimey... Calm down hun 😂☺️ " Lol.. I need a wank | |||
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"Blimey... Calm down hun 😂☺️ Lol.. I need a wank 😄" It's that fucker in the HGV who pulls out a bit to stop it being used. Like he's doing us all a favour. Smug fucking look on his face like we should be giving him a round of applause??? Applause? I want to drag the fat fuck from his cab and lump him one. Deep breath...I'm now calm | |||
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"People who think they're doing you a favour by stopping and letting you out, or letting you past an obstacle, when there'd no one behind them? You've actually stopped and slowed everything off down. The whole process (traffic flow) is now slightly longer because you had to slow down to then stop....BUT THERE'S NO traffic behind you do if you had just kept your speed you would have gone by, then I could proceed. You haven't achieved anything...if you were part of a q of traffic and I was waiting and waiting then yes...you have been gracious and done me a favour. But that's not the case..you're a twat. And worse of all ..I still feel obliged to smile and give a little lift of my hand as a thank you." I got stuck at the lights behind an old twat who although we had the green light, was letting all the right turning traffic go, even though there was a filter for them in the traffic light sequence, the result, everyone behind him didn't get through the lights and had to wait for the next green. | |||
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"Not indicating The majority of these seem to drive German cars which is odd. Germany is probably the most technically advances country in Europe so you would have thought they would fit all their cars with indicators as standard. This ‘German cars’ opinion is a ridiculous urban myth. " Perhaps it is. I used to live near a large Audi dealership so there were plenty of Audis around and their drivers thought they ruled the roost. I've heard the same said about BMWs. | |||
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"Not being able to find a safe place to stop and wank" | |||
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"People who refuse to drive in a bus lane when it’s not a bus lane. Several bus lanes near me are clearly marked Monday - Friday 7-10AM and 4-7PM. Yesterday (Sunday) for example I went to watch Manchester City beat Arsenal. On the way home I was the only person driving in the bus lane which isn’t a bus lane on a Sunday and must have passed a couple of hundred cars at least who wouldn’t use the bus lane. " Most likely Arsenal supporters,they just live to get overtaken. It's a recurring theme. | |||
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"People who park at a Bus Stop , ( even if it just to Pop into adjacent shop ) , the stops are specifically designed for people to get on and off if they have mobility issues or even in a wheelchair ,, ,, if you are able bodied it may be something you appreciate later in life " Which I believe is illegal unless you have ??? Perhaps a P licence (badge?)Which I think are given to school transport/ disabled transport buses. I'm probably wrong. Some pedant will inform us. | |||
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"People who park at a Bus Stop , ( even if it just to Pop into adjacent shop ) , the stops are specifically designed for people to get on and off if they have mobility issues or even in a wheelchair ,, ,, if you are able bodied it may be something you appreciate later in life Which I believe is illegal unless you have ??? Perhaps a P licence (badge?)Which I think are given to school transport/ disabled transport buses. I'm probably wrong. Some pedant will inform us. " Not all bus stops, only some, and there has to be a traffic order in place for those that are restricted with signage and painted lines. Restrictions can be anything, like local buses & Hackneys only 24/7. Some bus stops will have enforcement cameras. I note you’re in Scotland which I believe would be the same but I’m talking in general and also London tends to be even more stricter. | |||
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"As an ex lorry driver, probably all of the above and below lol. But as I get older, LED headlights are the worst things." Those Polestar vehicles have an LED brake light strip that goes across the boot. On dark, wet nights it just dazzles and it always seems really dangerous. | |||
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"More cocky little fuckers, the ones who you see creeping forward next to you and revving at a red light. I have pretty good manual launch control though and can usually see most of them off up to the speed limit "Just buy an electric car and leave them standing. | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks." You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks. You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. " Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time. And refer to me where it officially states I am wrong. | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks. You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time. And refer to me where it officially states I am wrong." You refer to entering the box when there is ample space from ONCOMING traffic. It doesn’t matter how much traffic is oncoming, it is the traffic in your exit (the right turn) that is the governing factor. If you enter the box whilst the right turn is full and end up stopping there when the lights change you are committing an offence. If you are turning right on a filter the lights will not “inevitably turn red”, that’s the point of a filter, it operates when the oncoming traffic is held at red. What you appear to be suggesting is that cars should enter the box before the right turn filter is active (when oncoming vehicles have right of way) without consideration in respect of the right turn being clear or not. | |||
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"People who think they can push in when everybody has been queuing for ages and then you get a knob who lets everyone in " But obviously this wouldn't apply to a merge/zipper lane situation | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks. You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time. And refer to me where it officially states I am wrong. You refer to entering the box when there is ample space from ONCOMING traffic. It doesn’t matter how much traffic is oncoming, it is the traffic in your exit (the right turn) that is the governing factor. If you enter the box whilst the right turn is full and end up stopping there when the lights change you are committing an offence. If you are turning right on a filter the lights will not “inevitably turn red”, that’s the point of a filter, it operates when the oncoming traffic is held at red. What you appear to be suggesting is that cars should enter the box before the right turn filter is active (when oncoming vehicles have right of way) without consideration in respect of the right turn being clear or not. " Oh dear. Now, point me in the direction of any legislation that proves your point and I’ll do the same by return. | |||
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"As an ex lorry driver, probably all of the above and below lol. But as I get older, LED headlights are the worst things." Dito. | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks. You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time. And refer to me where it officially states I am wrong. You refer to entering the box when there is ample space from ONCOMING traffic. It doesn’t matter how much traffic is oncoming, it is the traffic in your exit (the right turn) that is the governing factor. If you enter the box whilst the right turn is full and end up stopping there when the lights change you are committing an offence. If you are turning right on a filter the lights will not “inevitably turn red”, that’s the point of a filter, it operates when the oncoming traffic is held at red. What you appear to be suggesting is that cars should enter the box before the right turn filter is active (when oncoming vehicles have right of way) without consideration in respect of the right turn being clear or not. Oh dear. Now, point me in the direction of any legislation that proves your point and I’ll do the same by return." For goodness sake just look up the rules on a box junction. If you can’t do that you shouldn’t be driving But hey, here you go Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road (see ‘Road markings‘). You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear. However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping Law The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002: Regulations 10(1) & 29(2) At lights with a filter you are not stopped by oncoming traffic, that’s what the filter is for. Hope that helps. | |||
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""Having these duels on our roads with idiots make you as big a problem." Except that I'm not 19, not stoned off my box or showing off to my mates, and very aware of what's ahead. I got taught defensive driving, but that's not the same as submissive driving. I'll only take them when it feels safe, never in crowded traffic or when lots of pedestrians are around. What a fucking joke Every post you put on this thread is about your aggressive driving attitude!! You sir are a blatant lier ! You wouldn’t know defensive driving if it layed down in front of your face And just Wtaf is submissive driving? Fucking delusional
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I like to make progress. Usually not aggressively but I will drive fast up to the limits and occasionally exceed them e.g. when overtaking trucks or slow coaches.
Defensive driving is looking ahead and behind, eyes everywhere, having a sense for the unexpected. I'd define submissive driving as just letting wankers walk all over you, undertake, cut in etc without letting them know they're in the wrong. Sometimes I can't be arsed. Sometimes I let them wind me up.
But hey whatever, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Haven't had an accident in nearly forty years of driving by the way. My insurance premium is subterranean. "You have clearly not met the wrong driver yet. You sound like you are playing a lottery and one day you will meet somebody who won’t be too impressed with your so called defensive driving skills. Then you are going to need to defend yourself in an entirely different way. Life’s too short ! | |||
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"Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right, once there is ample space from oncoming traffic to turn right on a filter light, and instead wait at the lights that will inevitably change red. Probably 4 or 5 cars could have turned right the thick fucks. You only enter the yellow box when your exit is clear, not when there is no oncoming traffic. Read what I wrote again, more carefully this time. And refer to me where it officially states I am wrong. You refer to entering the box when there is ample space from ONCOMING traffic. It doesn’t matter how much traffic is oncoming, it is the traffic in your exit (the right turn) that is the governing factor. If you enter the box whilst the right turn is full and end up stopping there when the lights change you are committing an offence. If you are turning right on a filter the lights will not “inevitably turn red”, that’s the point of a filter, it operates when the oncoming traffic is held at red. What you appear to be suggesting is that cars should enter the box before the right turn filter is active (when oncoming vehicles have right of way) without consideration in respect of the right turn being clear or not. Oh dear. Now, point me in the direction of any legislation that proves your point and I’ll do the same by return. For goodness sake just look up the rules on a box junction. If you can’t do that you shouldn’t be driving But hey, here you go Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road (see ‘Road markings‘). You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear. However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping Law The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002: Regulations 10(1) & 29(2) At lights with a filter you are not stopped by oncoming traffic, that’s what the filter is for. Hope that helps. " Good grief man! The TSRGD 2002 you quote above has largely been rescinded and replaced with TSRGD 2016, that’s your first error and most fatal. Now read, yet again, what I originally wrote. “Drivers who do not go forward into a yellow box to turn right…” “…and instead wait at the lights (that they are obviously already stopped at) that will inevitably turn red.” It is NOT an offence to proceed into a yellow box junction on a green light and wait inside it in order to turn right, impeded by oncoming vehicles or other vehicles which are stationary whilst waiting to ‘complete’ a right turn. The filter light, if there is one, will illuminate and complete the right turn, if one has not done so already by turning right on green with enough space in between oncoming traffic. My original gripe was about those drivers who do not proceed at all into the yellow box junction to turn right but instead stay behind the stop line of the lights they are already at. Sometimes a filter light will only last a few seconds and everybody behind the first car will be held behind the lights they were waiting at because the idiot in front is effectively just waiting for the filter to go forward in one manoeuvre to turn right, which is quite obviously what you do then probably argue with the drivers behind you quoting largely rescinded legislation. 🙄 | |||
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"Tractor drivers (or combine harvester) whistling away as they trundle along the fairly busy road which just happens to have long stretches where it's impossible to overtake. Too many bends, ups downs to safely overtake even a relatively slow vehicle. But hey..what's that behind you,? A mile of fucking traffic!!! But hey... what's those things that appear frequently along the left of the road? Fucking lay-bys. Look you don't have to .you're obeying every law of the road, not in error in any way but... Would it really fucking hurt that much to pull in once every now and again...be nice for all road users...I do the occasional nice thing for people for no reward. I think the world is a better place if people are like that... so why can't you recognise that it'd be a helpful thing to others...and be considerate. And yes, it does mean you will be later to get where you're going but does that really ruin your day? And that "ha ha ha" look to drivers who look a bit pissed off when they eventually get past, the "ha ha you can do fuck all mate" look You know when I think "ha ha ha" now? When I see you on tele whining about how you now have to pay inheritance tax...ha ha fucking ha " I was going to post something funny about farmers, basically taking the piss out myself, but I just want to try clear something up. Most of my days are 13/14 hours long, but during harvest, we can push 18/19 hour days, flat out. Its hard work and long days. We do try pull in, but that quick pull into a layby can last 10+ minutes because no one wants to let us out, as they dont want to he stuck behind a tractor. Do that 5/6 times over a day and its an hour onto an already long day. I spend alot of time on the A1 when going between fields and farm, I try to pull over, but a 20 minute drive the other day took an hour because I tried to clear traffic as much as i could, and I had to do it during rush hour, I had no option unfortunately. As for the tax thing... thats a different discussion and will be off topic. | |||
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