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"I take your point, but have to say looking at your profile, you don't really do yourself a favour with your current status and first 2 paragraphs of description. Appreciate the frustration, but I just find some of the words used almost aggressive. Please take this as constructive criticism " It would definitely put me off, the OP needs to take note of this. A decent profile should be welcoming and friendly. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people" Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. | |||
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"Do any other guys feel soul destroyed after sending out numerous messages to guys on this site and not even getting a single yes please or No thank you? I know I shouldn’t let it get to me however it does and really annoys me. I try 100% to always try and respond to anyone who messages me. I just don’t see it as hard to do. So many think they are too precious on here to have to. Oh unless of course you are gym fit and hung like a horse and under 35, then they are all over you like a rash. IMHO it’s all so very shallow, we should be supporting eachother on here to have the very best experiences available instead of making it all so hard and miserable." The vast majority on this site are time wasters. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. " Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming " You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x" I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable | |||
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"You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable " In that case may I suggest a secretary 😂 DM me if you would like to carry on chatting so we don’t go off topic on this thread x | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable " I don't get anywhere near as many messages as that, but I still get enough that it was becoming a full time job to reply to them all. That's why I hide my profile. I keep meaning to unhide it but every time I do, bam, dozens of messages. And if one message out of those is from someone who actually read the profile, it's like finding a speck of gold lmao. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable I don't get anywhere near as many messages as that, but I still get enough that it was becoming a full time job to reply to them all. That's why I hide my profile. I keep meaning to unhide it but every time I do, bam, dozens of messages. And if one message out of those is from someone who actually read the profile, it's like finding a speck of gold lmao." But what if that man of your dreams passed you by as you're hidden? | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable I don't get anywhere near as many messages as that, but I still get enough that it was becoming a full time job to reply to them all. That's why I hide my profile. I keep meaning to unhide it but every time I do, bam, dozens of messages. And if one message out of those is from someone who actually read the profile, it's like finding a speck of gold lmao. But what if that man of your dreams passed you by as you're hidden? I know you're just being playful here but honestly I don't think that man actually exists. Truth is, I find using this site overwhelming and the process of trying to meet anyone, hell, even talk to them, demoralising and frustrating. I'd rather not do something I know will put me in a bad mood, so I don't bother. Fair play to guys who can suffer through all the bullshit but I can't. You're probably now wondering why I even have an account. Well I was using it just to chat to people. I was also attempting to get some guys to talk to me offsite but have had no real luck with that despite them agreeing to do it. Which confirms my suspicion they were always just stringing me along. Sorry for the long, melancholy response. Just how I feel. | |||
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"No reply is a reply - there's a whole load of people out there who take offence if you say no thanks " Exactly so. The only people worth bothering about are the ones who send you an interesting reply. I delete every message i send as soon as i send it and then generally forget i ever did. | |||
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"Seems to me this site is similar to a straight hookup/dating site. There's a huge gulf between the people who are regularly successful on it and those who aren't. And, just as on a straight site, any time anyone tries to say anything about this you always get people saying "Well I'm doing fine, it's just a you problem" despite it being a problem for countless users across countless demographics. Meeting people using a website that reduces human connection to a meat market is fundamentally unnatural. No wonder it makes so many of us feel like shit, it's antithetical to how human interaction is supposed to work." However people haven't just said "Well I'm doing fine, it's just a you problem", they've offered useful, constructive advice. In spite of this the OP has made no changes, and has posted a similarly antagonistic status update just a few hours ago. Some people just can't be helped. | |||
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"Seems to me this site is similar to a straight hookup/dating site. There's a huge gulf between the people who are regularly successful on it and those who aren't. And, just as on a straight site, any time anyone tries to say anything about this you always get people saying "Well I'm doing fine, it's just a you problem" despite it being a problem for countless users across countless demographics. Meeting people using a website that reduces human connection to a meat market is fundamentally unnatural. No wonder it makes so many of us feel like shit, it's antithetical to how human interaction is supposed to work. However people haven't just said "Well I'm doing fine, it's just a you problem", they've offered useful, constructive advice. In spite of this the OP has made no changes, and has posted a similarly antagonistic status update just a few hours ago. Some people just can't be helped." I'm not saying that's the only feedback he got. I myself gave decent advice he didn't act upon. But I do notice a lot of replies on threads like this ultimately boil down to some variation of "stop moaning, if I can do it so can you" which ignores the personal context of whoever is complaining. In the case of OP, yeah, he could do with not using his profile to rant about other users. | |||
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"So many seem unable to grasp that negativity and anger is, largely, unattractive At this point it's obvious that OP doesn't care. Whether he vents or not he's not getting what he wants from the site so hey, why not vent? | |||
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"So many seem unable to grasp that negativity and anger is, largely, unattractive Vicious circles spring to mind | |||
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"So many seem unable to grasp that negativity and anger is, largely, unattractive Sure. A difficult thing to get free from. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable I don't get anywhere near as many messages as that, but I still get enough that it was becoming a full time job to reply to them all. That's why I hide my profile. I keep meaning to unhide it but every time I do, bam, dozens of messages. And if one message out of those is from someone who actually read the profile, it's like finding a speck of gold lmao. But what if that man of your dreams passed you by as you're hidden? Don't worry about it There's another thread... something like "why are you here' where people are having similar thoughts. They're easy to have. BUT It might be easy to say but it is partly a case of not taking things personally on a site like this. It's a hookup site, men are involved, who lets be honest are horny dogs, and it's anonymous. There's going to be lots of shite along with the good. Perhaps some, yourself? The OP? might find including other avenues. I'm just throwing ideas out there.. Try saunas, I can't remember who but there was someone on here saying he went to one that had a nice bar and food and he got chatting to guys with no pressure. Gay holiday placed...I can only think of the Rosebay place Try some social gay groups in the area if there are any, naturists? anything Search out the forums for activities you might be interested in? There's always ones up for people into camping, fishing, motorbikes, or an event being held for example Start a thread for something you like? There are other sites that may work better, there's a UK site for older guys for example (and their admirers) Might be rubbish ideas All I'm saying is for some people, if the site doesn't seem to be working or is effecting them, I wouldn't leave here, but perhaps investigate some other possible ways of meeting like minded guys. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people Drawback of being so popular on here as you are always high up the list for fabbed pics/vides, must be frustrating and flattering all at the same time. Flattering and frustrating definitely. It just makes finding the right person to meet so time consuming You may already know but you can block all incoming messages in the message filter settings, once you initiate contact they can message you back. Hope that helps x I have 4 of the filters on which has helped but still really unmanageable I don't get anywhere near as many messages as that, but I still get enough that it was becoming a full time job to reply to them all. That's why I hide my profile. I keep meaning to unhide it but every time I do, bam, dozens of messages. And if one message out of those is from someone who actually read the profile, it's like finding a speck of gold lmao. But what if that man of your dreams passed you by as you're hidden? Thanks for being so understanding. I've always had a problem with becoming depressed and demotivated and it seriously hinders my ability to form any kind of relationship. My first instinct is to not bother or run away. That said I do think the site just isn't for me. It's pretty obvious at this point. | |||
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"That might not be true but you do have to separate things here. The only advice I can give to you using this site is, nail down exactly what you are looking for...search search search...try and find a guy who seems to fit and from what they say you seem a good fit for them...if they're a good match then perhaps something happening is more likely. That's not how I approach things exactly but for some perhaps it's a better way. The other thing to think about is perhaps there is something else going on in people's lives and the way things are felt here is part of a wider issue There are help lines out there and people's local GP services to start with. Perhaps some might find checking in with those services helpful? " Thanks again. Honestly I'm not really sure what I actually want, and I tend to get skittish and easily put off. I've told myself I'm gonna delete my account 3 or 4 times now and never end up actually doing it. As for that last part, I already went to therapy. Only helpful for as long as I went to it. Didn't take long after being discharged to start feeling the same. I think it's just my personality tbh. | |||
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"If you feel " soul destroyed " there is one solution to repair your soul which you should do .... take yourself off this site. Find other ways of meeting guys." Oh do shut up you fool. | |||
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"No reply is a reply - there's a whole load of people out there who take offence if you say no thanks " This | |||
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"Perhaps check in with the GP? I think knowing what you want is a big part of finding being here fulfilling, so perhaps that needs some careful thought. Have a think about the other things I mentioned to try connecting with guys. Not perfect ideas but hopefully in the ball park of ways to connect with no pressure." Will do, thanks. | |||
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"Thanks everyone for the praise and criticism whether constructive or not. I’ve made some changes so thanks again." It's looking a lot better already. | |||
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"Thanks everyone for the praise and criticism whether constructive or not. I’ve made some changes so thanks again." Getting rid of that first bit has made such a change to the vibe! | |||
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"Thanks everyone for the praise and criticism whether constructive or not. I’ve made some changes so thanks again. Getting rid of that first bit has made such a change to the vibe! " Indeed, and I'd suggest rotating profile pic, to start off the right way (up) 👀 | |||
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"If you feel " soul destroyed " there is one solution to repair your soul which you should do .... take yourself off this site. Find other ways of meeting guys. Oh do shut up you fool." To be honest, it's a fair point there. If you feel that it really is getting you down then it's definitely not worth that. I sometimes take a break from things for a few days and it does reset you a little. | |||
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"The only way to view sites of this nature is to remember the old adage "a prick in the hand is worth 2 in the bush" Saunas make life easier but there are time wasters and picky bastards there too. I sometimes wonder exactly who it is they are looking for...." spot on I often go saunas and some guys just walk around like their looking for something they've lost xx | |||
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"Such is fab.. everyone wants cock..but no one meets.. " The issue is no one accoms | |||
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"Such is fab.. everyone wants cock..but no one meets.. The issue is no one accoms" Yeah I agree. If I could accom I'd have had more luck by now. Ultimately the majority of users won't even read OP's profile. He could have written "I have a dozen bodies buried in my garden" and he'd still have people messaging him based purely on availability and his pfp. If he could accom he'd be sorted. Issue then is finding a quality meet, not just some random scrote. | |||
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"I find the moaning about OP's moaning to be far more insufferable than anything OP actually said. Just let the guy vent ffs. For all the talk of "if you don't like the site, just leave," I can't help but notice nobody misses a chance to scold users like OP for daring to feel bad in public." “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” The same users, bemoaning the same things again and again in the Forum, whilst not altering their behaviour one iota, is a definition of insanity. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out." When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. | |||
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"I find the moaning about OP's moaning to be far more insufferable than anything OP actually said. Just let the guy vent ffs. For all the talk of "if you don't like the site, just leave," I can't help but notice nobody misses a chance to scold users like OP for daring to feel bad in public. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” The same users, bemoaning the same things again and again in the Forum, whilst not altering their behaviour one iota, is a definition of insanity. " Except OP did act on the advice given. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out. When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. " Everything I said is either common sense, or opinion. I forgot I'm not allowed to have those on here. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out. When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. Everything I said is either common sense, or opinion. I forgot I'm not allowed to have those on here." Not everything you say is “common sense”. Though you are perfectly entitled to believe so. Similarly you are perfectly entitled to give your opinions on any matter whatsoever. Which indeed you have above. You told us a number of things and types of behaviour you don’t like. But you also don’t seem to like other people who don’t agree with your opinions. You’ll have to deal with the fact you have to share a site with others who don’t agree and might question your views. Views from people with experience in subject X are always more meaningful than those with no experience in subject X. That is not a controversial principle. Being lectured on sauna etiquette and “creepy” behaviour by someone who has yet to meet a man for sex or ever attended a sauna, I find faintly absurd. But that’s just my *opinion*. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out. When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. Everything I said is either common sense, or opinion. I forgot I'm not allowed to have those on here. Not everything you say is “common sense”. Though you are perfectly entitled to believe so. Similarly you are perfectly entitled to give your opinions on any matter whatsoever. Which indeed you have above. You told us a number of things and types of behaviour you don’t like. But you also don’t seem to like other people who don’t agree with your opinions. You’ll have to deal with the fact you have to share a site with others who don’t agree and might question your views. Views from people with experience in subject X are always more meaningful than those with no experience in subject X. That is not a controversial principle. Being lectured on sauna etiquette and “creepy” behaviour by someone who has yet to meet a man for sex or ever attended a sauna, I find faintly absurd. But that’s just my *opinion*." I can't be arsed with being condescended to and having my points misconstrued by you for the millionth time. For whatever reason you obviously don't like me. You said as much when you called me a brat. I'd get banned if I said what I actually want to say. So let's just cut the shit and not derail OP's thread any further. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out. When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. Everything I said is either common sense, or opinion. I forgot I'm not allowed to have those on here. Not everything you say is “common sense”. Though you are perfectly entitled to believe so. Similarly you are perfectly entitled to give your opinions on any matter whatsoever. Which indeed you have above. You told us a number of things and types of behaviour you don’t like. But you also don’t seem to like other people who don’t agree with your opinions. You’ll have to deal with the fact you have to share a site with others who don’t agree and might question your views. Views from people with experience in subject X are always more meaningful than those with no experience in subject X. That is not a controversial principle. Being lectured on sauna etiquette and “creepy” behaviour by someone who has yet to meet a man for sex or ever attended a sauna, I find faintly absurd. But that’s just my *opinion*. I can't be arsed with being condescended to and having my points misconstrued by you for the millionth time. For whatever reason you obviously don't like me. You said as much when you called me a brat. I'd get banned if I said what I actually want to say. So let's just cut the shit and not derail OP's thread any further. " Guys just agree to disagree and move on, it don’t matter if you agree with eachother. | |||
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"I’ll tell you what is soul destroying. People hijacking a thread, and then spending most of it arguing between each other on a point that’s irrelevant. It happens again and again !! " They are entitled to their opinion tho and it’s good to debate issues. What I do know is you want often change the person with the opposing view. People criticized me and my profile and to be honest after looking at some of there’s I thought they had a damned cheek. However it’s all subjective isn’t it? You can’t please everyone all of the time and I don’t want to, I just wish people were kinder and more thoughtful about responding it’s that simple in the end, none of the trolls, haters or naysayers are going to sway my opinion on that. If someone takes time to put a message together for you then a simple no thanks isn’t really that hard to do. If you do get 150 messages a day like someone claimed then copy and paste the response, see even easier. | |||
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"There is no etiquette on here...no reply is a reply. If you send a message, it's read,and they don't reply...block and delete....and forgot about it. " That’s YOUR opinion and thankfully not shared by every one else on here. Some of us do believe in responding it’s that simple. | |||
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"My issue with being able to get back to people is the sheer volume of messages I get which is usually around 150 a day with most being questions that are answered in my bio. So I have to search through everything to find a handful of people I'm interested in as I don't have all day to start/maintain conversations with this many people" That's fair. You do put up great pictures though. Another one I've found is some of them are from bloody miles away. And on a work night. | |||
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"Could be any number of reasons why a person is picky in a sauna. Could be new and nervous, have a certain type, have something on their mind etc. Might just want to watch, or get there with the intent of having sex but losing interest when they get there. Everyone tells me saunas are chill and laidback but the comments on this thread about it almost make it seem like there's an obligation to do what others want whether you want to or not. That honestly creeps me out. When you’ve met your first man for sex, let alone attended your first sauna, your verdicts will carry more weight. Everything I said is either common sense, or opinion. I forgot I'm not allowed to have those on here." Common sense not being permitted is all the more reason to use it in my experience. | |||
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"I’ve had so many thank you’s off guys frustrated with the poor etiquette on here and how they liked what I said, more so than negative. I have acted on the negative criticism I received and made changes. Thanks everyone for your input." IMO, the changes you've made (especially the 'correct' orientation of your profile pic 😉) are positive/improvements and will hopefully improve your experiences on this site. However, you may be on a hiding to nothing (I suspect you'd feel better if you ditched the expectation) if you expect replies to every message: it is indeed, potentially, wholly impractical/not possible to reply to messages | |||
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"To be fair your profile doesn't come off as too overly aggressive now so hopefully you'll find some fun. Ultimately it depends who's on at any given time, you could have 100 guys who aren't your type, you aren't theirs or they're 100 miles away. Idxsay just treat the forums as a social gathering and come across as approachable and then meets might pick up a bit. " That's my issue. I'm not free often enough to make looking for meets viable. Last few times I gave it an honest go, I wasted the whole day trying and then it's like, oops, not free again for weeks because of work/friends/I don't spend every waking moment thinking about gay sex and sometimes I'm just not bothered. After a point it got too tedious so I stopped. Might start again if my situation changes. | |||
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