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"Males and females I suppose. Or would they include the other 17 genders?" But non will be members of government families etc, only "us" for the cannon fodder! | |||
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"It will be over in a few hours, a few days at most. Mutually Assured Destruction Watch Threads " Maybe. If the Russians aren't that crazy, Trump unquestionably is... | |||
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"I will join the army to defend UK. " As so most fit and able Men if the need ever arose Imagine not wanting to defend your country and keep your loved ones safe | |||
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"So if war does break out with Russia what age groups would be required to fight im 64 so what would i be required to do? " you can join the dad's army and fight them on the beaches | |||
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"Why fight fot this anti British government wake the f up " Would not be fighting for Government but God, Country and English way of life... | |||
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"Why a thread like this on Xmas Day ???" It's what we do. | |||
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"I hate nationalstic wars and all wars. I would go to prison rather than fight." A good thing there weren’t more like you in 1939 then - we’d all be speaking German now. | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…." Make the parachutes 😉 | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉" Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉 Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x" Aye you’ll need to measure them up to make sure the parachute is the right fit 😉 | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉 Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x Aye you’ll need to measure them up to make sure the parachute is the right fit 😉 " I’ll be there then, in that case | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉 Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x Aye you’ll need to measure them up to make sure the parachute is the right fit 😉 I’ll be there then, in that case" Do you want you want them all naked 😁 | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉 Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x Aye you’ll need to measure them up to make sure the parachute is the right fit 😉 I’ll be there then, in that case Do you want you want them all naked 😁" It would be an advantage I think…not for me of course…..for the troops. | |||
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"I wonder what a Tv like me, would be expected to do if i joined up….maybe keep the troops happy…. Make the parachutes 😉 Would there be any troops in the parachute factory do you think x Aye you’ll need to measure them up to make sure the parachute is the right fit 😉 I’ll be there then, in that case Do you want you want them all naked 😁 It would be an advantage I think…not for me of course…..for the troops." As long as I can join the queue to be measured up I’m happy 😁 | |||
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"Why bring asylum seekers into it? If you voted Brexit because of that idiot liar Johnson, you kicked yourself in the face and made the situation ten times worse." | |||
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"I hate war too, but the Nazis wanted to rule the world and had an extremist ideology based on systematic genocide. Rather than fighting for our country, we were defending our entire future and way of life. That's worth fighting for and a valid reason to defend ourselves. Ukraine isn't worth fighting for and Russian aggression is nothing like the Nazis." . Ukraine is worth defending, because this isn’t just a local dispute — it’s about whether borders can be changed by force in Europe again. Russia’s invasion wasn’t defensive or accidental; it was an unprovoked attempt to erase a neighbouring democracy and impose control over it. That threatens the same principles we defended in WWII: sovereignty, self‑determination, and the right of people to live free from authoritarian expansion. No one is claiming Russia = Nazi Germany, but dismissing the invasion as “nothing like” past aggressions misses the point. Authoritarian leaders testing the West’s resolve has always led to bigger conflicts when ignored. Helping Ukraine stop that aggression now is far more likely to prevent a wider war — including one the UK might ONE DAY have to fight directly. Supporting Ukraine isn’t about loving war. It’s about stopping one country from deciding it has the right to conquer another. | |||
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"I hate war too, but the Nazis wanted to rule the world and had an extremist ideology based on systematic genocide. Rather than fighting for our country, we were defending our entire future and way of life. That's worth fighting for and a valid reason to defend ourselves. Ukraine isn't worth fighting for and Russian aggression is nothing like the Nazis." Sounds exactly like the USA now who a war is more likely to be against IMHO | |||
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"So if war does break out with Russia what age groups would be required to fight im 64 so what would i be required to do? " Fight .... 🤣🤣 Be over in minutes .... Few nukes from them and us ..job done | |||
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"So if war does break out with Russia what age groups would be required to fight im 64 so what would i be required to do? " If the sort of war that Putin is spouting about comes off, no one will get the chance to do anything. We will all be radioactive dust before we even realise there's a problem. (Ex RN) | |||
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"I hate nationalstic wars and all wars. I would go to prison rather than fight. A good thing there weren’t more like you in 1939 then - we’d all be speaking German now." More like dead having been sent to concentration camps. Remember it wasn’t just the Juden that were sent to them. | |||
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"I hate war too, but the Nazis wanted to rule the world and had an extremist ideology based on systematic genocide. Rather than fighting for our country, we were defending our entire future and way of life. That's worth fighting for and a valid reason to defend ourselves. Ukraine isn't worth fighting for and Russian aggression is nothing like the Nazis.. Ukraine is worth defending, because this isn’t just a local dispute — it’s about whether borders can be changed by force in Europe again. Russia’s invasion wasn’t defensive or accidental; it was an unprovoked attempt to erase a neighbouring democracy and impose control over it. That threatens the same principles we defended in WWII: sovereignty, self‑determination, and the right of people to live free from authoritarian expansion. No one is claiming Russia = Nazi Germany, but dismissing the invasion as “nothing like” past aggressions misses the point. Authoritarian leaders testing the West’s resolve has always led to bigger conflicts when ignored. Helping Ukraine stop that aggression now is far more likely to prevent a wider war — including one the UK might ONE DAY have to fight directly. Supporting Ukraine isn’t about loving war. It’s about stopping one country from deciding it has the right to conquer another." The war has nothing to do with Russia "erasing a neighbouring democracy". It's about the threat of NATO expansionism, which they see as an existential threat. Russia doesn't want to conquer the whole of Ukraine, it wants a 500-mile border that US/NATO can't place anti-ballistic missiles that can be adapted into nuclear launchers. If Russia conquered all of Ukraine, NATO really WOULD be on their doorstep, which defeats the whole purpose of their war. As for attacking NATO, this is all lies made up by NATO to continue the war. The UK will never directly fight Russia, because both nations are nuclear powers. A 'fight' would mean a brief exchange of nuclear weapons that would annihilate everyone. | |||
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"IMO ..it will be cyber attacks, destruction of under sea cables, arson attacks, sabotage of power grid. Everything Putin can deny having a hand in. " Those things are all happening already. Plus interference in our politics, using bribery and hacking IT infrastructure. Attacks in industrial infrastructure and our economy. Russian agents are sent over here to kill people Putin doesn't like, regardless of civilian casualties - remember Salisbury? So there is a strong argument that Russia IS at war with us - they have already identified us as an enemy. They just haven't declared it, and it is being waged by unconventional means. | |||
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"Can't think why Russia would invade another communist country like the UK" UK is not a Communist country, and neither is Russia. Give your head a good hard wobble. | |||
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"Can't think why Russia would invade another communist country like the UK UK is not a Communist country, and neither is Russia. Give your head a good hard wobble." The only remaining real Communist country is Cuba. | |||
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"If in the very unlikely event that conscription was called for in the UK, going against all the equality and diversity bollocks we've been force-fed, the first call would be on White Working Class men and boys. These are the groups the Establishment hates the most and would see war as an opportunity to send them to the meat grinder, just as Ukraine and Russia has done. Don't be fooled by any jingoistic patter from bought and paid for politicians, who won't be doing any of the fighting by the way, they will safely be locked away in their bunkers and bolt holes. War is business and you are the commodity." I really don’t thing colour will be an issue, hasn’t been before the commonwealth as it was then pulled us through WW2, black troops were as much in the firing line (not our war, but Vietnam & black segregated troops in WW2) it class not colour as you allude to the ruling classes start the fight & feed the cannon with working class fodder…since war , since forever. | |||
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"Retired armed forces and no way would i fight for starmers shithole." But it isn’t…. He just happens to be current incumbent, the current state of UK is the fault of succession governments, didn’t suddenly go to shit at the last election. | |||
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"Retired armed forces and no way would i fight for starmers shithole. But it isn’t…. He just happens to be current incumbent, the current state of UK is the fault of succession governments, didn’t suddenly go to shit at the last election." Agreed but even more shit since Free Gear Starmer took over.. | |||
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"Retired armed forces and no way would i fight for starmers shithole. But it isn’t…. He just happens to be current incumbent, the current state of UK is the fault of succession governments, didn’t suddenly go to shit at the last election." More of a continuum, not helping turn the tide though | |||
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"I hate war too, but the Nazis wanted to rule the world and had an extremist ideology based on systematic genocide. Rather than fighting for our country, we were defending our entire future and way of life. That's worth fighting for and a valid reason to defend ourselves. Ukraine isn't worth fighting for and Russian aggression is nothing like the Nazis.. Ukraine is worth defending, because this isn’t just a local dispute — it’s about whether borders can be changed by force in Europe again. Russia’s invasion wasn’t defensive or accidental; it was an unprovoked attempt to erase a neighbouring democracy and impose control over it. That threatens the same principles we defended in WWII: sovereignty, self‑determination, and the right of people to live free from authoritarian expansion. No one is claiming Russia = Nazi Germany, but dismissing the invasion as “nothing like” past aggressions misses the point. Authoritarian leaders testing the West’s resolve has always led to bigger conflicts when ignored. Helping Ukraine stop that aggression now is far more likely to prevent a wider war — including one the UK might ONE DAY have to fight directly. Supporting Ukraine isn’t about loving war. It’s about stopping one country from deciding it has the right to conquer another. The war has nothing to do with Russia "erasing a neighbouring democracy". It's about the threat of NATO expansionism, which they see as an existential threat. Russia doesn't want to conquer the whole of Ukraine, it wants a 500-mile border that US/NATO can't place anti-ballistic missiles that can be adapted into nuclear launchers. If Russia conquered all of Ukraine, NATO really WOULD be on their doorstep, which defeats the whole purpose of their war. As for attacking NATO, this is all lies made up by NATO to continue the war. The UK will never directly fight Russia, because both nations are nuclear powers. A 'fight' would mean a brief exchange of nuclear weapons that would annihilate everyone." I get that Russia says this is about NATO, but that doesn’t explain why it invaded a sovereign country, tried to topple its government, and still claims Ukrainians and Russians are “one people.” Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO when the invasion happened... And countries only seek NATO because they’re threatened, not the other way around. Russia already has huge borders with NATO members. What it’s trying to create in Ukraine isn’t a “buffer,” it’s control political, cultural, and territorial. That absolutely is about erasing Ukraine’s independence and forcing it into Moscow’s sphere against its will. Ukrainians clearly don’t want that, and they’re the ones paying the price. As for “Russia doesn’t want to conquer Ukraine,” they’ve already tried once to march on Kyiv, annexed territory they don’t legally own, and openly talk about Ukraine having no right to exist. That goes far beyond missile placements. And nuclear weapons don’t make conventional aggression harmless, they’re the reason Russia thinks it can bully neighbours without consequences. Supporting Ukraine is how we show that nuclear darkmail (sorry couldn't use the real word) doesn’t give a country a free pass to invade others. That’s in everyone’s long term security interest..Including the UK’s. | |||
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"What a senseless thread ! 1st of all Try researching what Russia and Ukrain are at war for ! Russia has no desire to fight against the rest of the world! Its aim is to stop nato plotting up on its doorstep! Ukrain was given the opportunity and defence of Russia! Ukrain wanted to join nato ! So Russia is reclaiming territory that was previously donated by Russia If war was to break out i wouldn’t be to concerned about anyone being called up to go and fight in trenches! It will all be done via drones and long range missiles that none of us will know anything about! Until its way too late ! " What a senseless reply. Russia didn’t invade Ukraine because NATO was “plotting on its doorstep.” Ukraine wasn’t in NATO, had no membership timeline, and only started pushing harder for Western security after Russia had already sei_ed Crimea and fuelled war in the Donbas. Countries want NATO protection because they’re threatened not the other way around. Ukraine is not “Russian territory that was donated.” It’s a sovereign state recognised internationally since 1991, and its borders were guaranteed by Russia in the Budapest Memorandum — the same Russia that then broke its word and invaded. Calling invasion “reclaiming” is just rewriting history to justify aggression. Russia wasn’t offering Ukraine “defence,” it was demanding control over its foreign policy. Ukrainians have the right to decide their own future, alliances, and government that’s what sovereignty means. And war isn’t some clean push-button drone conflict. Real people are dying, cities are being destroyed, and Ukrainians are fighting because they refuse to be dictated to by a larger neighbour. Supporting Ukraine isn’t warmongering it’s standing up for the principle that borders can’t be changed by force. | |||
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"What a senseless thread ! 1st of all Try researching what Russia and Ukrain are at war for ! Russia has no desire to fight against the rest of the world! Its aim is to stop nato plotting up on its doorstep! Ukrain was given the opportunity and defence of Russia! Ukrain wanted to join nato ! So Russia is reclaiming territory that was previously donated by Russia If war was to break out i wouldn’t be to concerned about anyone being called up to go and fight in trenches! It will all be done via drones and long range missiles that none of us will know anything about! Until its way too late ! What a senseless reply. Russia didn’t invade Ukraine because NATO was “plotting on its doorstep.” Ukraine wasn’t in NATO, had no membership timeline, and only started pushing harder for Western security after Russia had already sei_ed Crimea and fuelled war in the Donbas. Countries want NATO protection because they’re threatened not the other way around. Ukraine is not “Russian territory that was donated.” It’s a sovereign state recognised internationally since 1991, and its borders were guaranteed by Russia in the Budapest Memorandum — the same Russia that then broke its word and invaded. Calling invasion “reclaiming” is just rewriting history to justify aggression. Russia wasn’t offering Ukraine “defence,” it was demanding control over its foreign policy. Ukrainians have the right to decide their own future, alliances, and government that’s what sovereignty means. And war isn’t some clean push-button drone conflict. Real people are dying, cities are being destroyed, and Ukrainians are fighting because they refuse to be dictated to by a larger neighbour. Supporting Ukraine isn’t warmongering it’s standing up for the principle that borders can’t be changed by force." Perhaps the conscripts presently doing one over every border crossing they can find haven’t heard what a heroic stand they should be making for Ukraine. Never mind starmer has it covered with his coalition of the witless | |||
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"Russia struggles with logistics against neighbouring Ukraine. And some think they will solve that problem overnight when it comes to the UK? Load of bollocks. The talk of war is the tool of the politician, to distract from all the shit at home." Correct | |||
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"Is it better to live under Putin with no lives lost and infrastructure intact than fight and live under Putin with millions dead and no infrastructure... He cant ve thay bad if millions fight for him" Hmmm. All those willing millions who have complete freedom of choice in the Russian system, you mean..? By your interesting logic, China must be the bestest ever state as millions upon millions just do what the state orders them. They must be BIGLY brilliant! It is quite difficult to think of a worse Foreign Secretary than numbnuts David Lammy was - but I’m pleased to say you’ve jumped to the top of the list. You’ve even surpassed Mr Z Polanski “Let them all in so we can show our niceness”. Some doing. | |||
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"So if war does break out with Russia what age groups would be required to fight im 64 so what would i be required to do? " For you personally maybe something similar to Home Guard | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs" Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄 | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄" ZANG! 😬 😂 | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄 ZANG! 😬 That wasn't me pal, you got the wrong guy ffs 😂" | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄" Am I being stalked again ffs? | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄 Am I being stalked again ffs?" No, you’re popping up on yet another thread, ffs. Although apparently this thread doesn’t interest you, ffs. Ffs. | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄 Am I being stalked again ffs? No, you’re popping up on yet another thread, ffs. Although apparently this thread doesn’t interest you, ffs. Ffs. " Ffs stalk someone else | |||
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"Fight a war against Russia 😂😂 We can't even protect our own borders from migrants entering on little rubber boats ffs" Advocates for supporting migrants are often those who disagree with the very idea of national borders. Why protect something you don't agree with? | |||
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"It will be over in a few hours, a few days at most. Mutually Assured Destruction Watch Threads " In Ukraines case it has lasted for 4 years! | |||
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"It will be over in a few hours, a few days at most. Mutually Assured Destruction Watch Threads In Ukraines case it has lasted for 4 years!" That's because they want the land. We are too small for the land itself to be of much use. We make a good military base, that's all. | |||
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"I thought this was a forum about gays and bisexuals, ffs Says the author of the “Now we see the Anti-Christ rising” thread exclusively about Donald Trump. 🙄 Am I being stalked again ffs? No, you’re popping up on yet another thread, ffs. Although apparently this thread doesn’t interest you, ffs. Ffs. Ffs stalk someone else " Projecting | |||
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"Die for the apron? Never. " Most sensible statement in this stupid post | |||
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"I disagree with your point of view. Russia annexed Crimea to destabilise Ukraine and prevent its further integration with the West, which Russia viewed as a direct national security threat. This followed the ousting of pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych during the 2014 Maidan Revolution, which was basically a US-backed coup. That's why Russia felt threatened. After years of NATO encroachment and ballistic missiles being placed in Romania and Poland, Ukraine was next in the US plan to destabilise Putin. This has been US foreign policy all over the world for 30 years. They try to install puppet governments in every country they want to control or steal resources from, and it always backfires. Ukraine war is the latest and, yes, real people are dying. Instead of admitting Russia was provoked, NATO is now doubling down and wasting more money and resources on a lost war. They need to end it now instead of lying and pretending Russia wants to attack NATO and rebuild its empire. which is utter nonsense." I get that this is a popular narrative, but it flips cause and effect. Russia didn’t act because Ukraine was “about to be taken over by the US.” It acted because Ukrainians rejected a corrupt pro-Kremlin leader and chose a more democratic, Europe-leaning future. That wasn’t a coup it was a mass protest movement after Yanukovych broke his own political promises and fled the country. Crimea wasn’t annexed to “stabilise security.” It was taken by force in violation of international law and in breach of Russia’s own commitments to respect Ukraine’s borders. You don’t protect your security by invading your neighbour and claiming their land. NATO doesn’t force countries to join! states apply because they fear Russian aggression. Poland and Romania asked for missile defence after watching what Russia did in Georgia and Ukraine. Again, the expansion followed Russian behaviour, not the other way around. Calling Ukraine a US proxy ignores the obvious truth: Ukrainians themselves are choosing to fight. They’re not dying for Washington’s policy, they’re dying because they refuse to live under a regime that wants to dictate their politics, identity, and territory. Ending the war isn’t about “admitting provocation.” It requires Russia stopping its invasion and respecting a neighbour’s right to exist. That principle matters far beyond Ukraine it’s what keeps borders from being rewritten by force anywhere. | |||
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"No one is going to fight for this government so I wouldn't worry . Do you think we are going to go to war and leave our women and children with all these illegal immigrants and fight for society that calls us racist . " A modern war needs a professional army anyway. Surely the Ukraine conflict has taught us that. Thousands of Russian soldiers have been sent in , ill prepared, to the front line, to be picked off by a thousand dollar drone. Why the fuck would any of us sign up to that? | |||
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"I disagree with your point of view. Russia annexed Crimea to destabilise Ukraine and prevent its further integration with the West, which Russia viewed as a direct national security threat. This followed the ousting of pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych during the 2014 Maidan Revolution, which was basically a US-backed coup. That's why Russia felt threatened. After years of NATO encroachment and ballistic missiles being placed in Romania and Poland, Ukraine was next in the US plan to destabilise Putin. This has been US foreign policy all over the world for 30 years. They try to install puppet governments in every country they want to control or steal resources from, and it always backfires. Ukraine war is the latest and, yes, real people are dying. Instead of admitting Russia was provoked, NATO is now doubling down and wasting more money and resources on a lost war. They need to end it now instead of lying and pretending Russia wants to attack NATO and rebuild its empire. which is utter nonsense. I get that this is a popular narrative, but it flips cause and effect. Russia didn’t act because Ukraine was “about to be taken over by the US.” It acted because Ukrainians rejected a corrupt pro-Kremlin leader and chose a more democratic, Europe-leaning future. That wasn’t a coup it was a mass protest movement after Yanukovych broke his own political promises and fled the country. Crimea wasn’t annexed to “stabilise security.” It was taken by force in violation of international law and in breach of Russia’s own commitments to respect Ukraine’s borders. You don’t protect your security by invading your neighbour and claiming their land. NATO doesn’t force countries to join! states apply because they fear Russian aggression. Poland and Romania asked for missile defence after watching what Russia did in Georgia and Ukraine. Again, the expansion followed Russian behaviour, not the other way around. Calling Ukraine a US proxy ignores the obvious truth: Ukrainians themselves are choosing to fight. They’re not dying for Washington’s policy, they’re dying because they refuse to live under a regime that wants to dictate their politics, identity, and territory. Ending the war isn’t about “admitting provocation.” It requires Russia stopping its invasion and respecting a neighbour’s right to exist. That principle matters far beyond Ukraine it’s what keeps borders from being rewritten by force anywhere." This is correct. All this bollocks about "provoking Russia" is coming from shills like Farage and his bunch of goons. | |||
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"Luv to put my old para smock on and maroon beret and sit in stores handing kit out on a cushy number " I look ridiculous in a beret, even the sales person said a discreet ‘not for you sir’ rather than make a sale.. | |||
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"Is it better to live under Putin with no lives lost and infrastructure intact than fight and live under Putin with millions dead and no infrastructure... He cant ve thay bad if millions fight for him" Indeed, because Putin isn’t known for disappearing people is he? We could all sleep soundly in our beds????? | |||
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"It will be over in a few hours, a few days at most. Mutually Assured Destruction Watch Threads In Ukraines case it has lasted for 4 years! That's because they want the land. We are too small for the land itself to be of much use. We make a good military base, that's all." As the Americans know and continue to prove despite Donald’s talk. | |||
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"But this government is covering it all up and the media is biased the people arnt getting the right news. And they arectaking away freedom of speech they have new Islamic masters " The force is strong in this one… | |||
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"I disagree with your point of view. Russia annexed Crimea to destabilise Ukraine and prevent its further integration with the West, which Russia viewed as a direct national security threat. This followed the ousting of pro-Russian Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych during the 2014 Maidan Revolution, which was basically a US-backed coup. That's why Russia felt threatened. After years of NATO encroachment and ballistic missiles being placed in Romania and Poland, Ukraine was next in the US plan to destabilise Putin. This has been US foreign policy all over the world for 30 years. They try to install puppet governments in every country they want to control or steal resources from, and it always backfires. Ukraine war is the latest and, yes, real people are dying. Instead of admitting Russia was provoked, NATO is now doubling down and wasting more money and resources on a lost war. They need to end it now instead of lying and pretending Russia wants to attack NATO and rebuild its empire. which is utter nonsense. I get that this is a popular narrative, but it flips cause and effect. Russia didn’t act because Ukraine was “about to be taken over by the US.” It acted because Ukrainians rejected a corrupt pro-Kremlin leader and chose a more democratic, Europe-leaning future. That wasn’t a coup it was a mass protest movement after Yanukovych broke his own political promises and fled the country. Crimea wasn’t annexed to “stabilise security.” It was taken by force in violation of international law and in breach of Russia’s own commitments to respect Ukraine’s borders. You don’t protect your security by invading your neighbour and claiming their land. NATO doesn’t force countries to join! states apply because they fear Russian aggression. Poland and Romania asked for missile defence after watching what Russia did in Georgia and Ukraine. Again, the expansion followed Russian behaviour, not the other way around. Calling Ukraine a US proxy ignores the obvious truth: Ukrainians themselves are choosing to fight. They’re not dying for Washington’s policy, they’re dying because they refuse to live under a regime that wants to dictate their politics, identity, and territory. Ending the war isn’t about “admitting provocation.” It requires Russia stopping its invasion and respecting a neighbour’s right to exist. That principle matters far beyond Ukraine it’s what keeps borders from being rewritten by force anywhere. This is correct. All this bollocks about "provoking Russia" is coming from shills like Farage and his bunch of goons." Poland started cooperating on NATO missile defence (the U.S./NATO SM-3 site at Redzikowo) in 2010, way prior to the annexation of Crimea. It's ridiculous to suggest Ukraine is a democratic country - it's corrupt to the core. Even now they are embezzling funds from the military that are supposed to be used for war purposes. Zelenskyy is nothing but a US puppet. We can talk semantics, but it doesn't matter whether you believe Russia was provoked or not. They feel threatened and have acted accordingly - and US/NATO expansionism is responsible for that. Russia has no intention of taking over the whole of Ukraine. How can Russia claim they don't want NATO on its border, only to take over the whole of Ukraine and have NATO on its border? Makes no sense. They want a 500-mile buffer zone between NATO and the Donbas and promises that NATO will not expand further. They were even willing to sign a peace agreement that respected previous red lines, until that clown Boris Johnson went over and convinced Zelenskyy to fight. | |||
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"As a MAGA man , I have to remember we've got DJT on his own side " Fixed | |||
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"So if war does break out with Russia what age groups would be required to fight im 64 so what would i be required to do? " If you believe a war with russia is coming then you need professional help | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/12/25 19:57:34]" Abuse and block, do your own research etc etc. Thanks sir, you merely confirmed my opinion of your opinions masquerading as fact. | |||
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"You liar lol I did not abuse you I gave you fact after fact after fact and you kept saying not true with zero conversation back . You can go look into everything I said but you won't you seem to be stuck in this I vshr be wrong fantasy . " You called me ‘a main stream media fool’ thats abuse to me, especially in an offline conversation that no one else can see. I never said not true i merely asked for links references etc and got the usual do your own research answer. Following a narrative isn’t difficult if you read, consider and answer. | |||
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"You liar lol I did not abuse you I gave you fact after fact after fact and you kept saying not true with zero conversation back . You can go look into everything I said but you won't you seem to be stuck in this I vshr be wrong fantasy . You called me ‘a main stream media fool’ thats abuse to me, especially in an offline conversation that no one else can see. I never said not true i merely asked for links references etc and got the usual do your own research answer. Following a narrative isn’t difficult if you read, consider and answer." And again, unblocked, willfully misunderstanding or misinterpreting or just not reading what I have said. For the record as I have been blocked I was not excusing r@pes and murders by those claiming asylum, merely pointing out that the indigenous population is also capable, and proportionately responsible for more attacks, not saying it’s ok to let others in, apart from the fact that there is no way of knowing in either population who is liable to attack or not. | |||
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"Jesus there are some serious people on here FFS lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Lighten up. If a WW3 starts it'll be over that quick and if like me you live in a major city centre it'll probably land on your head lol ☢️☢️☢️" Exactly | |||
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"I wonder if starmer would dress up in his khaki greens and grow sum facial stubble if war broke out in the uk like zlenski did ?? " Why would you fancy him if he did? | |||
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"Jesus there are some serious people on here FFS lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Lighten up. If a WW3 starts it'll be over that quick and if like me you live in a major city centre it'll probably land on your head lol ☢️☢️☢️" Hate to disappoint you but Glenrothes is not a major city 🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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